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Posted on: Dec. 12 2005,9:25 pm |
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It looks like this administrations claims about the Iraq - Al Qaeda link was just another lie. Just like the yellow cake uranium, WMDs and mass graves.
More than 2000 American lives lost because of this administration's lies.
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Fabricated Links?
A CIA report casts new doubt on links between Iraq and Al Qaeda. Plus, tensions between FBI Director Bob Mueller and his predecessor, Louis Freeh.
WEB EXCLUSIVE
By Michael Isikoff and Mark Hosenball
Newsweek
Updated: 7:07 p.m. ET Oct. 26, 2005
Oct. 26, 2005 - A secret draft CIA report raises new questions about a principal argument used by the Bush administration to justify the war in Iraq: the claim that Saddam Hussein was "harboring" notorious terror leader Abu Mussab al-Zarqawi prior to the American invasion.
The allegation that Zarqawi had visited Baghdad in May 2002 with Saddam's sanction—purportedly for medical treatment—was once a centerpiece of the administration's arguments about Iraq. Secretary of State Colin Powell cited Zarqawi's alleged visit in his speech to the United Nations Security Council. Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld referred obliquely to Zarqawi's purported trip as an example of "bulletproof" evidence that the administration had assembled linking Saddam's regime with Al Qaeda.
But like the uranium yellowcake claims—since determined to be fraudulent—that are at the heart of the CIA leak case, the administration's original allegations about Zarqawi's trip also seem to be melting away. An updated CIA re-examination of the issue recently concluded that Saddam's regime may not have given Zarqawi "safe haven" after all.
The CIA declined to comment on the draft report. But officials tell NEWSWEEK that Zarqawi probably did travel to the Iraqi capital in the spring of 2002 for medical treatment. And, of course, there is no question that he is in Iraq now—orchestrating many of the deadly suicide bombings and attacks on American soldiers.
But before the American-led invasion, Saddam's government may never have known he was there. The reason: he used an alias and was there under what one U.S. intelligence official calls a "false cover." [b]No evidence has been found showing senior Iraqi officials were even aware of his presence, according to two counterterrorism analysts familiar with the classified CIA study who asked not to be identified because of the sensitivity of the matter.
An intelligence official told NEWSWEEK that the current draft says that "most evidence suggests Saddam Hussein did not provide Zarqawi safe haven before the war. It also recognizes that there are still unanswered questions and gaps in knowledge about the relationship."
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Jesus Juice
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Posted on: Dec. 12 2005,9:45 pm |
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up yer nose with a rubber hose
I saw the yellow cake on the dave chapelle show, it was real man.
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Liberal
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Posted on: Dec. 12 2005,9:55 pm |
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Did it look like this? 
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Wolfie
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Posted on: Dec. 13 2005,1:32 am |
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Nice demeaning graphic there jackass. Either your racist or you just look good in sheets. Either way I am not impressed.
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Expatriate
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Posted on: Dec. 13 2005,12:11 pm |
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President Bush declared in his 2003 State of the Union speech that Iraq had tried to buy nuclear weapons material in Africa
The foreign spy service warned the U.S. various times before the war that there was no proof Iraq sought uranium from Niger, ex-officials say.
Yellowcake is sticky it's all over this dubious Curveball Bogus prewar intelligence
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DrBombay
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Posted on: Dec. 13 2005,12:37 pm |
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| Quote | | Nice demeaning graphic there jackass. Either your racist or you just look good in sheets. Either way I am not impressed. |
Liberal, you racist pig you! 
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Liberal
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Posted on: Dec. 13 2005,12:45 pm |
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Isn't it funny how the dumb ones call people racists yet have no clue as to what a racist actually is.
So I'll try this one more time for the dumb ones, There is nothing racist about someone superimposing an image of Condi Rice over Aunt Jemima. Obviously if it's racist to put Rice's picture on the box then it's just as racist to have Aunt Jemima on the box. So maybe you need to talk to the people that make those products about your racism hangup.
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jimhanson
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Posted on: Dec. 13 2005,12:52 pm |
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Here we go again with more liberal "talking points". From Wikipedia | Quote | The reference in U.S. President George W. Bush's 2003 State of the Union speech (in which he made a case for war with Iraq) made to Saddam seeking uranium from Africa was alleged by critics to be a reference to these documents. Retired ambassador Joseph C. Wilson wrote a critical op-ed in The New York Times in which he explained the nature of the documents, and the government's prior knowledge of their unreliability for use in a case for war. However, during a subsequent investigation by the Unites States Senate intelligence committee, Wilson admitted under oath that the documents in question were known but not in the hands of the CIA until 8 months later. Further, when asked by the Senate Intel committee how he would know if the documents were fakes, given that Wilson had no idea whose names should be on originals, or what an original would look like, Wilson claimed to have "misspoken" on this issue. This was among the unanimous, bipartisan findings released by the Senate in July, 2004. Shortly after Wilson's op-ed, in a column by Robert Novak, the identity of Wilson's wife, CIA analyst Valerie Plame, was mentioned for the purpose of correcting Wilson's previous claims that the Vice President's office had sent Wilson to Niger. The Senate Intel committee report found unanimously that it was Ms. Plame, not the Vice-President, who had suggested to sent Wilson to Niger.
The bipartisan, unanimous report issue by the Senate Intelligence committee in July 2004 also concluded that when Wilson briefed the CIA on his trip to Niger, CIA analysts felt the claim was further substantiated, though the State Department thought Wilson's findings refuted the claim.
The actual words President Bush spoke: "The British Government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa" suggests that his source was British intelligence and not the forged documents.[1] The Butler Report issued after a review by the British government concluded that the report Saddam's government was seeking uranium in Africa was credible. However, the Butler report fails to advance any evidence to substantiate this conclusion. Furthermore, the Butler report concluded that "The forged documents were not available to the British Government at the time its assessment was made, and so the fact of the forgery does not undermine it."[2] Further, the Financial Times released a story in the summer of 2004, indicating a "strong belief" among european inteligence communites that Iraq had attempted to purchase uranium from Niger (June 28. 2004). Again, no proof is shown for this claim.
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So, Wilson is discredited as a liar in front of the Intelligence Committee. His wife says she had "nothing to do with his selection to go to Niger"--also proven false. Wilson himself says he spent "nine days drinking mint tea" in Niger--never actually going out to check out the assertions. Wilson writes an op-ed piece for the NY Times--only to have it come out that the documents he referred to were not even in the hands of the CIA until 8 months later. He claimed the documents were "fakes", but when asked by the Intel committee how he would know, he couldn't provide an answer. Why was Wilson selected to go on this fact-finding mission for the CIA? His wife denied, then admitted that it was her idea. Wilson had no background in mining, nuclear energy, or CIA operations. Unlike a CIA operative, he was not compelled to sign a confidentiality release.
| Quote | | Wilson interviewed former prime minister of Niger, Ibrahim Assane Mayaki, who reported that he knew of no sales to Iraq. Mayaki did however recall that in June 1999 an Iraqi delegation had expressed interest in "expanding commercial relations", which he had interpreted to mean yellowcake sales |
Let's see, the main export of Niger is Uranium, and the only other significant export is livestock. Do you suppose the Iraqis sent a delegation to Niger to buy cows?  
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Posted on: Dec. 13 2005,12:57 pm |
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Yep, I guess Newsweek is lying and there really was tons and tons of yellow cake.
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jimhanson
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Posted on: Dec. 13 2005,1:06 pm |
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Only a flaming liberal would believe anything in Newsweek.
Why DID the Iraqi's go to Niger?
Why DID the CIA send Wilson to Niger? 
The Dems whole "Plame gate" backfired on them. No one was indicted over the issue--the prosecutor stated that. Wilson was exposed as a liar, his wife, Plame was exposed as a liar, nobody "outed" her as "revenge". Miller was fired/resigned from the NY Times.
If you need an example of media bias--this article exemplifies it.
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