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Posted on: Sep. 15 2016,12:29 pm |
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Expat - not trying to start an argument but, your are misinformed on the airport. You are right that the airport itself may not generate the $ to pay for the new building, etc. However, they receive grants from the state and feds that comes from all the $ generated from the airports overall to pay for it.
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Posted on: Sep. 15 2016,1:06 pm |
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Was1, 90 percent of the project will be paid for by federal funds. The State and city taxpayers will split the remaining 10%. whether Federal/State/local this is tax revenue that comes from US...
Like I said it's a mathematical impossibility that the few pilots/airplanes that utilize the airport could generate the tax revenue.
The city is looking at building an approximate 4,300-square foot arrival and departure building. The project is expected to cost approximately $1.5 million.
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was1
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Posted on: Sep. 15 2016,2:27 pm |
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It's all from Airport user fees, airport fuel taxes, etc. none from the city of albert lea funds
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Posted on: Sep. 15 2016,3:20 pm |
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That airport doesn't generate enough revenue to cover operational costs.
As for fuel tax locally, how many gallons would it take pay for that new runway @ ten million or the new terminal @ a couple million?
The FAA falls under the jurisdiction of The Deportment of Transportation a government agency reliant on our Tax Dollars, it's not an independent that survives wholly off fuel taxes. The Federal Fuel Tax hasn't been raised in what 20 years, Congress has been shoring up the transportation fund out of the General Fund for years.
In one way or another we are paying for the airport improvements like it or not, every little Podunk has an airport we're paying for, is it any wonder why we're broke..
Albert lea's share of this bill will be $ 75,000 if they can build the terminal for 1.5 million, the estimates came in double the original build price, so our share will be higher.
Hanson ( airport manager ) is a hardcore anti-government rightwinger, when we had this verbal battle in the past I suggested the airport be privatized he quit posting on the forum..
On one hand I'm not totally against government spending if we receive some type of return for the greater good, I'm not sure I see this in all these Podunk airports.
http://www.albertleatribune.com/2015...uilding
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was1
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Posted on: Sep. 16 2016,7:55 am |
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It is extremely rare that any local $ has to go to these types of projects. Too bad Albert Lea ends up being one of them.
The funds (federal and state) for airports is separate from motor vehicle fuels taxes or your property taxes, etc.
If you don't feel having a local airport is of any benefit to the city, then get a movement started and have it go away. Keep in mind that any federal and possibly state funds that the airport has received over the last X number of years would have to be paid back by the City if it were to close the airport.
I too see little benefit for all these small town airports. There are at least 4 within an hour of one another now.
But, this isn't supposed to be about the airport. Back on topic.
Did anyone go to the open houses for the city garage? Has anyone discussed the project with the powers that be to get a better idea/understanding of why they feel such a big investment is necessary?
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Posted on: Sep. 17 2016,9:21 am |
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(was1 @ Sep. 16 2016,7:55 am)
QUOTE The funds (federal and state) for airports is separate from motor vehicle fuels taxes or your property taxes, etc.
This is a link to the FAA fact sheet as you can plainly see the General Fund (our tax Dollars) is subsidizing the shortage.
So these airports are eating away at our tax revenue. It's costing each of US increased taxation in the price of passenger tickets or freight shipped
https://www.faa.gov/about...eet.pdf
QUOTE If you don't feel having a local airport is of any benefit to the city, then get a movement started and have it go away.
Obviously the city feels the airport serves some greater good, they've been spending in that money pit regularly.
The conservative gentleman who runs the airport advocated for the privatization of public schools, the privatization of Social Security and Medicare, he wanted big government and taxes off his back..well he sure doesn't mind big government when it profits him!
like I said before it's a mathematical impossibility that the few aircraft owners who utilize Hanson Field could generate the tax revenues or fees to support the money pit.
Local government has the power to decommission that tar strip any time they want, but they won't so we'll all continue to pay for the millionaire boys club to play.
There may have been value in these small town airports prior to Eisenhower giving US the interstate highway system or the hospitals air ambulance system but now I can't see the need for the greater good.
Hanson has his events, there's probably an uptick in lodging/restaurant traffic but hardly worth the investment.
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Posted on: Sep. 17 2016,10:37 am |
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I miss Mr. Hanson, provided most of the intelligent conversation here, especially compared to some of the idiots here like the prior poster.
Go ahead, get rid of your airport, become even more of the po'dunk town between the mud holes. 
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Posted on: Sep. 17 2016,10:48 am |
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What do you know about the airport Self Burnished?
Anything?
Bolster your argument show us how smart you are. 
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hymiebravo
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Posted on: Sep. 17 2016,10:51 am |
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Mason City looks like they have a pretty good airport for a small town -
http://flymcw.com/faq/
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Posted on: Sep. 17 2016,1:27 pm |
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(hymiebravo @ Sep. 17 2016,10:48 am)
QUOTE What do you know about the airport Self Burnished? Anything? Bolster your argument show us how smart you are.
Well let's see, I suppose I could go into how small po'dunk towns don't have airports because, well, they're po'dunk hillbillies, probably inbred. That's probably pushing the boundaries of comprehension for you so we'll keep it simple. Airport=prosperity, no airport=you have a hot date tonight, with your sister.
You remind me of a neighbor kid I knew growing up, always fun to talk him into pissing on an electric fence.
Is that enough "bolstering" for you 
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