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alcitizens 
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Posted on: Jul. 13 2016,5:02 pm |
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42-inch outlet is on the left and the 36-inch inlet is on the right coming from Broadway..
Catch basin did sink and possibly creating a sag..
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Posted on: Jul. 13 2016,5:10 pm |
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Photo shows location of the next catch basin downstream that has no standing water..
Somewhere A begins to fall backwards and restricting proper flow..
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Posted on: Jul. 13 2016,6:10 pm |
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If the City of Albert Lea can't manage the stormwater they send to us, they need to stop sending it to us..
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was1
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Posted on: Jul. 14 2016,12:42 pm |
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Not even a year old and already sinking/settling in the peat soils that are there. Only going to continue and get worse, for all the structures that were placed. At one time City was looking into putting all the utilities on piles, like they did years ago on Bridge Avenue. Must have deemed that to $$$$. They could have chosen other construction materials to lighten their weights and reduce the settling/sinking. Could have put in all PVC or HDPE pipe for the storm sewer, didn't have to be concrete. Same with the catch basins and other man hole structures. You can make them out of HDPE and they work just fine, and are way lighter.
They will have to re did that entire line and relay it. as well as that structure and the lines coming into it.
Cant wait to hear what the City has to say about it.
Too bad they just didn't do things right to begin with, and have done it years ago like they should have.
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alcitizens
Albert Lea
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Posted on: Jul. 16 2016,4:02 am |
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Email sent to County Commissioners, City Councilmen and directed to City Engineer Steven Jahnke:
(--With no storm drains installed on June 30th all surface flood water was allowed to pool directly at this catch basin that was at least 2-feet deep.
I'm sure you'll blame the sag on poor soils but incompetence and flooding does the most damage to underground utilities..--)
was1, what would be the weight of just the water in a completely full catch basin that is 6-feet wide and about 6-feet deep? Thanks
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nzeroesc
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Posted on: Jul. 16 2016,5:36 pm |
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Volume calculation is V = pi r^2 × h
So pi=3.14
r=6ft
h=6ft
3.14 * (3ft)^2 * 6ft = 169.65cft
1cft of water weighs 62.4lbs
62.4*169.65 = 10586lbs
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Posted on: Jul. 16 2016,11:56 pm |
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Thanks much nzeroesc!
Over 5-tons of water inside the catch basin and that doesn't include another 2-feet of flood water on top..
Storm water on June 30th blew the steel cover off this New catch basin and flooding the neighborhood..
This story is becoming so sad.. 
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Posted on: Jul. 17 2016,3:44 am |
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The damaged catch basin was buried with gravel on Tuesday and no storm drains were installed at this catch basin.. The flooding tonight was the worst I've ever experienced..
I was the proud owner of a lakefront property for nearly 2 hours.. 
The engineering department should feel really proud of having a 50 year old storm sewer system installed on Virginia Pl. at taxpayer expense..
It won't be long before we find out if the City honors the warranty to replace a new street that is failing..
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was1
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Posted on: Jul. 21 2016,11:05 am |
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Any damage from the flooding?
Any word on the storm structure with the settling/backfall issue?
If City would have done it right to begin with the flooding would not have been so bad
Also, if they would have had this project completed by now, like it was supposed to be, also would not be as bad as the storm sewer inlets would have been exposed and able to take the water, instead of further backing it up.
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Posted on: Jul. 24 2016,2:53 am |
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This catch basin had a 2-foot concrete spacer ring removed and a non-sealed concrete cover put on top.. A steel plate covers the hole required for a manhole and is completely covered with 2-feet of gravel..
This sinking catch basin limits the flow of storm water from Broadway Ave. while allowing pipe (B) in the photo above to take priority.. Pipe (B) comes from 5th, 6th, 7th St., James Ave. and St. John..
The installers most likely blame the City and the City blames the installer..
Damage continues to be done to foundations and flooded basements..
Engineering in this town is pathetic..
Curb and gutter has been installed..
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