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^^well dumbass, one can't be right all the time.

But on a a positive note, that action created a new and quite vibrant industry. One being Arsenal Arms which makes a superior version of the AK with a milled receiver.
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^In 1989, then President George H.W. Bush issued an executive order halting the importation of semi-automatic firearms considered “assault weapons” He based his executive order on the 1968 Gun Control Act...

This makes Obama's executive order look like milk toast, your right-wing rhetoric is more knee-jerk hate mongering..

With that EO, bush used the justification of the "sporting use" verbiage of the gca68.  One of the most over used excuses to either restrict or reclassify firearms that are not considered "in common use" along with "sporting use".  And was allowed to pass muster and stand as an executive directive.  The sporting use clause needs to be struck from the gca as there isn't any requirement indicating what uses an arm must be intended as or in usage in the 2nd Amendment.  The 2nd Amendment has ZERO to do with sport.

The EO only banned arms from certain countries and manufacturers, one that was easily side stepped by those arms manufacturers by creating a separate company name and shipped from another country not defined in the EO.  

Which just recently as SB just pointed out, an established AK manufacturer here in the US, Kalashnikov is also in the process of establishing manufacturing here in the US.  Last I had heard they were looking at someplace in Tennessee.

RWC-Group has announced a manufacturing plant, they are based in Pennsylvania, so it just might be based in Tullytown, but who knows.

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Tullytown, Pennsylvania-based RWC Group, the official importer and distributor of Kalashnikov automatic and carbine rifles, had announced on Tuesday at the SHOT Show in Las Vegas that they would open an AK factory in the US in the second quarter of this year, which would produce AK-47s and Kalashnikov-brand shotguns. The Kalashnikov USA booth at SHOT features the slogans "Russian Heritage" and "Made in USA."


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^My post was for SB to understand these things are bipartisan, (even Executive Orders ) usually brought about by some tragic event involving firearms.

i.e. the 103 Congress enacted the Brady Bill in 1993 this was a handgun bill relating to the attempted assassination of Reagan. In 1994 they enacted the Federal Assault Weapons Ban adding to and reinforcing the Bush Ban, former Presidents Ford, Carter and Reagan all lobbied Congress for passage of this ban..

I have nothing against sensible firearms control legislation..just saying no and citing the Constitution hasn't stopped the Government in the past..

With the number of mass shooting obviously we have a problem, one that sooner or later will bring about bipartisan trouble for law abiding firearm owners..


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^My post was for SB to understand these things are bipartisan, (even Executive Orders ) usually brought about by some tragic event involving firearms.

i.e. the 103 Congress enacted the Brady Bill in 1993 this was a handgun bill relating to the attempted assassination of Reagan. In 1994 they enacted the Federal Assault Weapons Ban adding to and reinforcing the Bush Ban, former Presidents Ford, Carter and Reagan all lobbied Congress for passage of this ban..

I have nothing against sensible firearms control legislation..just saying no and citing the Constitution hasn't stopped the Government in the past..

With the number of mass shooting obviously we have a problem, one that sooner or later will bring about bipartisan trouble for law abiding firearm owners..

The issue with so called "sensible firearm control" legislation is that it is nothing more than a feel good, "look we are doing something" legislation, and rarely ends up doing anything it was intended to do.  Most of those BS laws could be argued as an interference upon due process.  
At issue it is the govts job to prove why a person cannot purchase or own a firearm, not a person's job to prove their worth.  Laws such as the brady bunch puts the onus on the individual and thus creates the issue at hand, a right delayed is a right denied.

Mass shootings are statistically rare and minute and are hardly any justification to infringe further upon a citizen's enumerated right to keep and bear arms.

Calling for a ban on so called (made up emotionally driven term) assault weapons is down right stupid and void of ANY logic and intelligence.  Banning a weapon on how it looks, because after all, those so called assault weapons are just rifles with a cosmetic change nothing more nothing less and looks does not and cannot change the basic function of a semi-auto weapon.


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like I said, we have to keep guns out of the wrong hands through background checks.. One mass shooting is too many and the frequency seems to be weekly, there's too many crazies with firearms and the majority of these weapons were purchased legally..I'm not for weapons bans or manufacturer liability.    




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I have nothing against sensible firearms control legislation..

Sensible? You're the idiot that thinks the right to defend yourself should have a financial test.

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^You got it homie, no job, no bank account, no viable means of support, on government subsidies, you can't afford a firearm.

You're not showing US the responsibility in your lifestyle that you can be trusted with that firearm not to infringe on the rights of the rest of US..


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^at least 2/3 of them are practicing proper trigger safety...

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^You got it homie, no job, no bank account, no viable means of support, on government subsidies, you can't afford a firearm.

You're not showing US the responsibility in your lifestyle that you can be trusted with that firearm not to infringe on the rights of the rest of US..

So once again I ask, if you're poor you don't have rights, do you even read or consider what you post or do you just peck away and slobber on the keyboard? :dunce:

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http://www.albertleatribune.com/2016/01/gun-permits-on-the-rise/

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