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If any Trump opponent is to deliver “The Speech," it better rival this one.
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By Glenn Delk – 3.4.16

Dan Henninger, a columnist for the Wall Street Journal, recently wrote that those seeking to derail Donald Trump’s express train to the GOP nomination should give “The Speech.” Mr. Henninger opined that it was time for Ted Cruz or Marco Rubio to deliver a rival to Nixon’s “Checkers speech,” John Kennedy’s speech on Catholicism, or Barack Obama’s 2008 speech on race. However, the gold standard for Mr. Henninger is Ronald Reagan’s 1964 speech, “A Time for Choosing.”

His column prompted me to reread the transcript from over 50 years ago. Having done so, I now understand Mr. Henninger’s advice, but would add this caveat. Today, March 2016, is the time for all Americans to read Mr. Reagan’s speech as if he were giving it today. When Republicans, Democrats, liberals, conservatives, rich, poor, white, black or Hispanic, take the time to put Reagan’s words into today’s context, they will understand what a true leader is. They will also understand that much of what Reagan said in 1964 applies in 2016, only with more urgency.

Consider the issues that concerned Mr. Reagan in 1964 about America’s future:
•“No nation in history has ever survived a tax burden that reached a third of its national income…”
•“We haven’t balanced our budget in 28 out of the last 34 years. We’ve raised our debt limit three times in the last twelve months, and our national debt is one and one half times bigger than all the combined debts of the nations of the world…”
•“We’re at war with the most dangerous enemy that has ever faced mankind in his long climb from the swamp to the stars…”
•Some Democratic representatives define “liberalism as ‘meeting the material needs of the masses through the full power of centralized government…’”
•“Well, I, for one, resent it when a representative of the people refers to you and me, the free men and women of this country, as ‘the masses.’ This is a term we haven’t applied to ourselves in America. But beyond that, ‘the full power of centralized government’ — this was the very thing the Founding Fathers sought to minimize…”

Obviously, Mr. Reagan could be describing the America of 2016, not one from 50 years ago. In his speech, he went on to identify other problems familiar to today’s American citizens, such as:
http://spectator.org/articles/65683/our-time-choosing-or-down


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I just don't understand all the worship that goes to Reagan.
Are not "we the people" the same as the masses? How many new govt agencies have been born in the last 50 years? One of the largest, DEA, comes to mind. Reagan was behind one of the largest arms and drug scandals of all time. George H Bush came from the CIA did he not? The Contras, the Iran arms. What a model citizen.


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Government spending increased under Reagan, all the while his Treasury Secretary was laying the groundwork for an unprecedented shift of the tax burden from the wealthy to the middle class. I guess he forgot all that 'the masses' bugle oil by the time he was President.

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I just don't understand all the worship that goes to Reagan.
Are not "we the people" the same as the masses? How many new govt agencies have been born in the last 50 years? One of the largest, DEA, comes to mind. Reagan was behind one of the largest arms and drug scandals of all time. George H Bush came from the CIA did he not? The Contras, the Iran arms. What a model citizen.

Maybe this will help you

http://www.forbes.com/sites...6fb3c92

As far as weapons, I don't seem to remember Reagan giving Iran the opportunity to develop nuclear weaponsi as Buster has. :blush:


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A metaphor for Reagan's infamous trickle down economics would be the Rio Grande River. Resources dammed and siphoned off to sin city Las Vegas, pipelines to wealthy retirement cities in the desert, irrigation canals to mega desert farms. Virtually no water reaching the Gulf.

I do hear some trickling, though. It's Hank Paulson, Larry Summers, Paul Geithner, investment bankers pissing on foreclosed home owners, unemployed workers, and homeless veterans.

Solution>Emasculation via samurai.
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I do hear some trickling, though. It's Hank Paulson, Larry Summers, Paul Geithner, investment bankers pissing on foreclosed home owners, unemployed workers, and homeless veterans.

Solution>Emasculation via samurai.

Yeah, right, "yawn" most of those home owners lost their homes due to to piss-poor financial management, excessive credit card debt, using the equity in their home like a piggy bank but never replenishing. A lot of them should have never been able to qualify for a mortgage, their saving grace? A meddlesome dem party and willing  R party that went back to the Carter years.

Samurai? Are you one of those creepy types that has swords on display all over your apartment?


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One of many Sander's videos on trickle-down economics. From 1992. The Reagan-Bush fraudsters are back:


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Yeah, right, "yawn" most of those home owners lost their homes due to to piss-poor financial management, excessive credit card debt, using the equity in their home like a piggy bank but never replenishing. A lot of them should have never been able to qualify for a mortgage, their saving grace? A meddlesome dem party and willing  R party that went back to the Carter years.


Are you serious? Your knowledge of the financial markets and the cause of the '08 meltdown is biased, at best.

Markets rely on Standard and Poor's to objectively rate debt, but the companies that want a favorable debt rating are the same companies that pay Standard and Poor's.

Banks wrote a ton of bad mortgages to people who they knew were going to default. It's called predatory lending. Then they hid those bad mortgages inside good ones to shine up the books for S & P, which gave them AAA ratings. Then they bundled the whole thing, and sold it to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, which was owned by you and me, the taxpayers. And then the banks bet on those loans defaulting. Not that much different from fixing a college basketball game, except a ton of people wind up broke and homeless. Those people can't buy things anymore, so businesses start going out of business, and more people are broke. When you start eliminating consumers, you start eliminating jobs, which eliminates consumers, and you see where this is going.

You want poor people on welfare to be held responsible for the  fiscal state of the country, but yet you're willing to turn a blind eye to the banksters with six and seven digit incomes that got them there in the first place.


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Samurai? Are you one of those creepy types that has swords on display all over your apartment?


No, but I know such a guy. He looks like Newman on Seinfeld, and is into all things Japanese.


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Solution>Emasculation via samurai.

Weak sauce. I think you meant evisceration.

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Predatory lending? Are you serious is the proper question.

It's very doubtful there were thugs at closing breaking legs, twisting arms.

Holy sh!t! :dunce:  :frusty:


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