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^^^good example,
Here's another one.

http://www.foxnews.com/politic...on-case


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For me it was the intro music, then the rifle.

I'll have to admit, not pukeing was a high point.

You ever seen this video of Charlton Heston years ago?  Here's the link for the Apple users, skip to 1min 32 sec:  NRA Charlton Heston  "My cold dead hands"

McConnell is facing a challenge and trying to look more conservative.  I figured he might be trying to capture Heston's entusiasm by doing a photo-op with a rifle.

It was pretty lame, the Bon Jovi music didn't help.


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We have the most divisive administration that I can remember

No matter how many times you hear Rush say that, it doesn't make it true.  You guys are either attacking him for being a weak and apologizing too much, or saying he's divisive and trying to start a war between the classes.  At least limit the attacks to one extreme or the other, both just comes off silly.

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pitting one social class against another with one failed policy after another.


The policies haven't failed, the ACA was successfully passed by Congress and the Courts, and implemented in every state.  Bin Laden's dead, which the Republicans wouldn't have ordered (McCain and Romney are on record saying they would NOT let the SEALS go into Pakistan to get him).  Don't ask, don't tell is over.  Our UI rate has consistently lowered over the past several years very similar to Reagan's two terms (with the exception that his percentages were far worse).  The housing market has and continues to get stronger as has the stock market.

You may not like any of the above, but that doesn't mean they're failures because the facts speak for themselves.  But there's plenty more that needs to be done, goals for 2016 should be a boost to infrastructure, raising the minimum wage, ending the wars for good/cutting defense spending, and at least leveling our tax policy so the Romney's & Buffet's pay the same rate as their employees.

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He wins the presidential election by less than 4% and calls it a mandate?  That's rich.


You remember what the margin was in 2000?  It was NEGATIVE 0.5.  In '04 it was 2.5%.  7% in one election and 4% in another is nothing to scoff at, we haven't seen margins that high since the last time a Democrat was in the White House.   :D

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It's starts at the top.  Lead by example and people will follow.  We have the most divisive administration that I can remember, pitting one social class against another with one failed policy after another.  

Obama has failed to unite this country because he takes a his way or no way approach.

He wins the presidential election by less than 4% and calls it a mandate?  That's rich.

...Nuff said

So, instead of tearing him down, give us your ideas. What would you do, to fix this country? :popcorn:

That's not tearing him down.  That's pointing out a pretty significant flaw in his governing style, imo.

But as far as the ACA?  I have a few ideas...

First thing I would do is require an entire year of basic financial planning of all high school seniors. Covering basic banking needs such as checking, savings, personal and mortgage loans, including college loans and how that will affect their life for the 20 years following the award of their degree.  In addition, they would need to understand the difference between bonds and stocks, risk vs. reward, why companies issue stocks and bonds.  The long term affect loans have on a persons finance including credit cards.  Finally insurance and its purpose and uses including social security, personal insurance such as auto, home, life, disability, etc...

While I'm at it in the schools, I would move the topic of Unions from the Social Studies class to the History class.  :p

I would repeal the ACA and explain to the people that insurance isn't the cause or creator of high health care costs but a mechanism used to spread financial risk of a catastrophic loss.

My solution would have addressed the uninsured without upending the policies or financially harming the middle class.  Repealing the ACA would end this idiotic idea.

If I was serious about making health care affordable, I would focus on the actual cost of health care...not insurance.  :dunce: And I didn't even have to attend Harvard to come up with that.

I would investigate the billing practices of all health care providers and medical facilities and make them uniform across the country including providing bills that are easy to understand by patients. (not what they charge)  Coding would only be used in the back office and outlawed on patient bills.  Plain English would be required.  No Spanish because of extra printing costs.

Doctors would be required to know what each of their procedures costs prior to performing the service so that they can intelligently answer a pricing question while in the doctor's office.  I think this is a key element during the office visit that is missing and if implemented would deter a number of unnecessary procedures.

I would want to know why the costs of research and development are recaptured by charging US citizens more than citizens in other first world countries for the same drug or medical device.  I would look to establishing more equitable guidelines while protecting company patents.

This is just a start, so sorry I don't have 2000 pages of ideas like the ACA.  But then you'd lose interest if you haven't already.
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For me it was the intro music, then the rifle.

I'll have to admit, not pukeing was a high point.

You ever seen this video of Charlton Heston years ago?  Here's the link for the Apple users, skip to 1min 32 sec:  NRA Charlton Heston  "My cold dead hands"

McConnell is facing a challenge and trying to look more conservative.  I figured he might be trying to capture Heston's entusiasm by doing a photo-op with a rifle.

It was pretty lame, the Bon Jovi music didn't help.

When a second rate politician tries the rifle over head thing, it's sickening.

When Heston (I didn't have to watch your video post, I remember) held up the rifle it was inspiring.

There where some good speeches at C-PAC but I keep wondering " they talk the talk but can they walk the walk"?


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What is your political label?

Americans love labels, whether on their caps, jackets, shoes, car…themselves. They love labels! They love labeling others. They love labeling things they cannot comprehend. Labels are safe. Labels keep the social pantry organized. If I am labeled then I must be important, right? Those who cast off labels are then labeled by the labelers with something negative. Politics is the perfect petri dish for growing, mutating, proliferating labels. There should be a board game dealing with this absurdity.

Even to be labeled in a positive light is, I believe, a form of condecencion. We enslave ourselves and others with -isms and labels. Labels usually involve connotations of some sort, a perfect way to psychologically manipulate others/ourselves without a direct and honest confrontation. So clever. And so cowardly.

Ridding our lives of a multitude of social & political labels is a daunting task. But as Grassman suggested we best get our butts in gear. What a waste of life living in a landfill of labeled.
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It's starts at the top.  Lead by example and people will follow.  We have the most divisive administration that I can remember, pitting one social class against another with one failed policy after another.  

Obama has failed to unite this country because he takes a his way or no way approach.

He wins the presidential election by less than 4% and calls it a mandate?  That's rich.

...Nuff said

So, instead of tearing him down, give us your ideas. What would you do, to fix this country? :popcorn:

That's not tearing him down.  That's pointing out a pretty significant flaw in his governing style, imo.

But as far as the ACA?  I have a few ideas...

First thing I would do is require an entire year of basic financial planning of all high school seniors. Covering basic banking needs such as checking, savings, personal and mortgage loans, including college loans and how that will affect their life for the 20 years following the award of their degree.  In addition, they would need to understand the difference between bonds and stocks, risk vs. reward, why companies issue stocks and bonds.  The long term affect loans have on a persons finance including credit cards.  Finally insurance and its purpose and uses including social security, personal insurance such as auto, home, life, disability, etc...

While I'm at it in the schools, I would move the topic of Unions from the Social Studies class to the History class.  :p

I would repeal the ACA and explain to the people that insurance isn't the cause or creator of high health care costs but a mechanism used to spread financial risk of a catastrophic loss.

My solution would have addressed the uninsured without upending the policies or financially harming the middle class.  Repealing the ACA would end this idiotic idea.

If I was serious about making health care affordable, I would focus on the actual cost of health care...not insurance.  :dunce: And I didn't even have to attend Harvard to come up with that.

I would investigate the billing practices of all health care providers and medical facilities and make them uniform across the country including providing bills that are easy to understand by patients. (not what they charge)  Coding would only be used in the back office and outlawed on patient bills.  Plain English would be required.  No Spanish because of extra printing costs.

Doctors would be required to know what each of their procedures costs prior to performing the service so that they can intelligently answer a pricing question while in the doctor's office.  I think this is a key element during the office visit that is missing and if implemented would deter a number of unnecessary procedures.

I would want to know why the costs of research and development are recaptured by charging US citizens more than citizens in other first world countries for the same drug or medical device.  I would look to establishing more equitable guidelines while protecting company patents.

This is just a start, so sorry I don't have 2000 pages of ideas like the ACA.  But then you'd lose interest if you haven't already.

CC, I commend you. You do have some good ideas there. I think there is a responsibility of people to do the right thing. If that held true to life, we would not have near the trouble we have today. That is not just the regular people we are talking about now. I say from top to bottom. The top is looking for any dollar they can catch no matter how. The bottom suck up any avenue of getting by any way they can. Meanwhile, those of us that have to live in this war, pay top dollar. I have insurance, it is considered very good insurance. I have 13 policies. I am what you call, insurance poor. I have to have all of these policies because of home insurance, life insurance, acts of congress to keep my vehicles on the road, some to be able to remain in business , and last but not least, to cover my medical. My medical. I just get so frustrated that I go for my glaucoma check ups 4 times a year and they still pay less than I do out of pocket. That is not counting my premium. I do not go to the doctor unless I am in real, real need. Yet I shell out tons of money to my different agents. I have had to get them spaced out because the payments together, are not manageable. I totally agree that the cost of health care needs to be addressed. they are a total rip off. If someone has your life in their hands, what are you going to do. The Hippocratic Oath NO LONGER APPLIES!

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Unless the liar in chief unilaterally puts in  delays of that mandate outside of congress  :dunce:


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What's wrong with that?  Aside from casting a broad overview of his opinion, just how far off was he?  Does that make him a racist or a realist?

How many remember the Minnesota Vikings boat party scandal?  Pick the whites guys out of the bunch.  :sarcasm:


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