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Posted on: Jul. 25 2004,11:59 am |
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Here's a email I received today. It's a partially true editorial.
Allah or Jesus?
by Rick Mathes
Last month I attended my annual training session that's required for
maintaining my state prison security clearance. During the training session
there was a presentation by three speakers representing the Roman Catholic,
Protestant and Muslim faiths, who explained each of their belief systems.
I was particularly interested in what the Islamic Imam had to say. The Imam
gave a great presentation of the basics of Islam, complete with a video.
After the presentations, time was provided for questions and answers.
When it was my turn, I directed my question to the Imam and asked:
"Please, correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand that most Imams and
clerics of Islam have declared a holy jihad [Holy war] against the infidels
of the world. And, that by killing an infidel, which is a command to all
Muslims, they are assured of a place in heaven If that's the case, can you
give me the
definition of an infidel?"
There was no disagreement with my statements and,
without hesitation, he replied, "Nonbelievers!"
I responded, "So, let me make sure I have this straight. All followers of
Allah have been commanded to kill everyone who is not of your faith so they
can go to Heaven. Is that correct?"
The _expression on his face changed from one of authority and command to
that of a little boy who had just gotten caught with his hand in the cookie
jar. He sheepishly replied, "Yes."
I then stated, "Well, sir, I have a real problem trying to imagine Pope John
Paul commanding all Catholics to kill those of your faith or Dr. Stanley
ordering Protestants to do the same in order to go to Heaven!"
The Imam was speechless.
I continued, "I also have problem with being your friend when you and your
brother clerics are telling your followers to kill me. Let me ask you a
question. Would you rather have your Allah who tells you to kill me in order
to go to Heaven or my Jesus who tells me to love you because I am going to
Heaven and He wants you to be with me?"
You could have heard a pin drop as the Imam hung his head in shame.
Needless to say, the organizers and/or promoters of the 'Diversification'
training seminar were not happy with Rick's way of dealing with the Islamic
Imam and exposing the truth about the Muslim's beliefs.
I think everyone in the US should be required to read this, but with the
liberal justice system, liberal media, and the ACLU, there is no way this
will be widely publicized. Please pass this on to all your email contacts.
This is a true story and the author, Rick Mathes,
is a well known leader in prison ministry.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/allah.asp
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DrBombay
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Posted on: Jul. 26 2004,9:46 am |
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More B.S. propaganda to spawn hatred within ignorant Americans against a whole religion, because of a fanatic sect of Islam that does not represent all Muslims.
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Rosalind_Swenson
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Posted on: Sep. 20 2011,10:06 am |
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I agree with Dr. Bombay. It's just more propaganda to spread hatred. I have personally known many muslims, they are wonderful and caring people. Since 9-11 many muslims have spoken out against terrorism and hate. Most muslims just want to live and let live.
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Glad I Left
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Posted on: Sep. 20 2011,10:24 am |
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did anyone read the snopes link? 
This was a training class and the 'imam' was a prison volunteer pressed into service to act as an imam because they couldn't find one to do the training.
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Rosalind_Swenson
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Posted on: Sep. 20 2011,10:36 am |
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I don't understand why some people want to mislead (and outright lie) just to spread more hate and anger. What purpose does it serve? What do some people get out of it?
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Rosalind_Swenson
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Posted on: Sep. 20 2011,10:38 am |
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Newbie, I'm not saying you lied. The guy who wrote that letter did, you accepted that it's the truth, as others have also accepted it as truth, and now it gets spread to more and more people.
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Stone-Magnon
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Posted on: Sep. 20 2011,11:19 pm |
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 Muslims got their freaks and we got Breeze!
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Rosalind_Swenson
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Posted on: Sep. 20 2011,11:39 pm |
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(Newbie @ Jul. 25 2004,11:59 am)
QUOTE Here's a email I received today. It's a partially true editorial. Please pass this on to all your email contacts. This is a true story and the author, Rick Mathes, is a well known leader in prison ministry. http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/allah.asp
Sorry, I don't know why I assumed you believed it. I should have known you had first posted this back in 2004. Silly me!!! You have my sincerest apologies. I'm very pleased to find out that you would never spread hate propaganda.
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