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I know a guy who is putting these logos on the doors of his new white toyota pickup. Pan Am was cool back in the day.

*won't allow me to add J-peg...forget it...


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Oh yes...I remember this scene as a young boy at Chi-towns O'hare airport back in the day. Very well done!
That is back in the day when we free, happy and employed. People under 35 would be shocked if a time machine existed and they could see for themselves like I did. Back before the drug war when we were a team. When we liked each other.



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PostIcon Posted on: Oct. 22 2011,8:00 pm Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

Gawd, I love this new show. The kid at 0:14 is me. Many memories of the feel of the era from this show.




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The look on the little girls face at 1:36 is how we all felt back then who saw this.

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PostIcon Posted on: Oct. 23 2011,12:12 am Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

Stone you are so silly!

I don't remember Pan Am anything from when I was a kid. One of my first memories is this commercial. I was 4, and was doomed from that day on!!

width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/DH0U2AsyoWU" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen>

And if my first attempt at embedding video didn't work, here's the link to it.  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DH0U2AsyoWU&feature=related


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I knew that wouldn't work. I give up trying to figure out the federal reserve, AND embedding video.

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This era lasted until about 1972.

Before Nixon we respected each other, After Nixon we arrested each other.


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PostIcon Posted on: Oct. 24 2011,1:15 pm Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

The show gets the technical details right.  The cockpit shots show the right avionics--the interior shots have the club seating and the lack of enclosed overhead baggage bins.  The airplane only goes to 35,000 feet--the engines were small in those days (the 707 had 4 engines because it NEEDED that many) and the FAA wouldn't allow jets to fly higher than that (they were afraid that loss of pressurization would be a disaster that couldn't be handled--turned out not to be the problem they THOUGHT it would be).  Technical INACCURACIES--the jet doesn't emit the signature black clouds of smoke on takeoff like the jets of the era did.  The First Officer (making a radio call) lists their "heading 019 degrees"--not only is heading not given in a radio call (only position, time, altitude, ETA at next fix, and the fix thereafter) but a heading of 019 is going mainly NORTH--it should be anywhere from 040 to 110 degrees, depending on their great circle position.  One more item--unless there was a rip-roaring tailwind, the early jets weren't capable of New York-London (or Paris) non-stops--usually, they would stage to Gander, Newfoundland for fuel before making the Atlantic leg.

I've always liked the looks of the 707--one of the prettiest airplanes ever designed.  Other than size--I've always thought the Presidential 707s exuded much more CLASS than the 747s.

The DC-7 shots are of an airplane that used to sit derelict at St. Paul airport--somebody had tried to organize a travel club in the early 70s.  I was on the airplane in 1974.  About 4 years ago, somebody in Florida bought it--spent only a week to get it ferriable, took it to Florida, and finished the restoration.  As far as I know, it is the only airworthy DC-7C in the world--they give rides in it.  It was the ultimate piston-engine airliner--but within 5 years of introduction, most were phased out by jets.

It WAS an amazing time--transatlantic flight by jet made the world smaller--it was a time when we felt "we can do anything"--and everything only got BETTER.  People dressed up for airline travel--good meals were served on real plates--unlimited free booze (even in the economy section).  There were some negatives, as well.  No women pilots--stewardesses had to retire at 30, and airfares were so high that only the rich could fly--even into the 1960s, most people had never flown.

Deregulation--We've traded off the elegance (correctly portrayed in the series) for the ability of MOST people to travel by air.  Was it worth it?  I think so.


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Rosalind--"Iron-eyes Cody"--the "Indian" actor in these commercials, wasn't an Indian at all.  He was Espera Oscar de Corti--an Italian.

"Cody" was portrayed as "The Indian weeping for what was done to the land"--the inference being that the Indians cared more for the land than whoever owns it now.  That's another myth--look at at the trash on any Indian reservation.

Good commercial, though!


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I was on PAM AM flight Cleveland to Miami when they declared bankruptcy, We were told connecting PAM AM flight tickets would not be honored. SOL folks.

A PAM AM gal in Miami got me on the last flight from Miami to Ft Myers, although she had just lost her job.


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