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Common Citizen 

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Posted on: Oct. 14 2011,9:39 pm |
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Obama sends troops to Uganda...
A letter that the President signed states...
QUOTE “crystallizes the commitment of the United States to help bring an end to the brutality and destruction that have been a hallmark of the LRA across several countries for two decades, and to pursue a future of greater security and hope for the people of central Africa. The Lord’s Resistance Army preys on civilians – killing, raping, and mutilating the people of central Africa; stealing and brutalizing their children; and displacing hundreds of thousands of people. Its leadership, indicted by the International Criminal Court for crimes against humanity, has no agenda and no purpose other than its own survival. It fills its ranks of fighters with the young boys and girls it abducts. By any measure, its actions are an affront to human dignity.”
This shouldn't matter to the donks and we should stay out of it...like they wanted us to stay out of Iraq...right?
QUOTE The president made this announcement in a letter to House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, Friday afternoon, saying that “deploying these U.S. Armed Forces furthers U.S. national security interests and foreign policy and will be a significant contribution toward counter-LRA efforts in central Africa.”
Really? The 1100 man LRA military is a threat to our national security?
Where's the outrage?
Maybe he should just stick to apologizing to Japan for dropping the A-bomb...
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Grinning_Dragon 
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Posted on: Oct. 14 2011,11:55 pm |
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From wikileaks-
Leaked cables show Japan nixed a presidential apology to Hiroshima and Nagasaki for using nukes to end the overseas contingency operation known as World War II.
Also, I agree, why send troops over to uganda, isn't it a hell hole to begin with? We the United States cannot keep doing this, to hell with uganda, their arms and legs aint broke, let them deal with this themselves, its their sand box let them play in it.
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Posted on: Oct. 15 2011,2:15 am |
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From wikileaks? Maybe you could supply a link to the location on wikileaks that you found that?
Of course there's no link to wikileaks saying that because in reality the cable only shows that "anti-nuclear groups" were speculating that Obama might travel to Hiroshima after he expressed support for a "nuclear-free world".
In case you still don't understand what that means it would be like me saying that I think you're insane and someday you might shoot up a Burger King, and then the news reporting that you're insane and plan to shoot up a Burger King based on nothing more than my speculation.
What happened was Fox and Friends reported this lie the other day, and later Limbaugh and the rest of the right wing echo chamber started repeating it. The next day Fox and Friends retracted it and apologized for the mistake, and that's the last time you'll hear about it from the right wing echo chamber because the truth never gets repeated there.
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Common Citizen 

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Posted on: Oct. 15 2011,11:55 pm |
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You're full of chit Lib.
You spew rhetoric claiming Iraq was a sovereign nation as if they where country a keeping to themselves while shooting at our planes controlling a no fly zone after that same sovereign country invaded another. Pfft...
Is it really as simple as a country such as Uganda requesting help from the US and the CinC declaring it a national security issue?
And now you are dismissive of those 100 soldiers because they are a quantitative figure to you. Admit it. You are unable to be critical of the Omnipotent One all because he has a (D) behind his name.
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Posted on: Oct. 16 2011,8:58 am |
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(Liberal @ Oct. 14 2011,11:26 pm)
QUOTE QUOTE This shouldn't matter to the donks and we should stay out of it...like they wanted us to stay out of Iraq...right?
We have 100 soldiers there at the request of that country, and they're not supposed to be involved in combat. That hardly compares to more than 100,000 soldier and a massive preemptive strike on a sovereign nation. QUOTE Maybe he should just stick to apologizing to Japan for dropping the A-bomb...
You people are insane, where do you come up with this stuff?  Isn't this the way Vietnam started???
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Posted on: Oct. 16 2011,10:09 am |
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(Common Citizen @ Oct. 14 2011,9:39 pm)
QUOTE This shouldn't matter to the donks and we should stay out of it...like they wanted us to stay out of Iraq...right? QUOTE You spew rhetoric claiming Iraq was a sovereign nation as if they where country a keeping to themselves while shooting at our planes controlling a no fly zone after that same sovereign country invaded another. Pfft...
Most dems in the House and Senate supported the Iraq resolution. Granted, far more dems voted against than the handful of repubs, but either way the bulk of both parties were pushing it forward. And the quotes of dems supporting are endless.
The decade old attempt at annexing Kuwait or the no-fly zone shootings aren't what brought shock and awe to Iraq. Nobody cared about a decade old breach of the line in the sand, it was manufactured intel on WMD and alleged ties to Al Qaeda. Troops are there regardless now, but let's not rewrite what really got us there in the first place.
QUOTE Really? The 1100 man LRA military is a threat to our national security?
Comparing this to Iraq is bizarre, as is calling 100 troops going to Uganda as "Obama's War", but I agree that I don't think we should be involved either in funding or sending troops.
QUOTE Where's the outrage?
I think you're outraged enough for all of us.
Nobody actually believed all those hope and change slogans. But, we thought that if we elect the first black president and pass healthcare reform, it would only take a few years before 50-65% of republicans would die of high-blood pressure. After that, all elections would be smooth sailing.
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Posted on: Oct. 16 2011,10:47 am |
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Tutsi and Hutu that’s like the Bloods and the Crips, I doubt them killing each other means anything to the Wall Street Banksters, they must see an opportunity to turn a buck in Uganda.
this isn’t something Obama just decided to do...
LRA Disarmament and Northern Uganda Recovery Act
QUOTE Following introduction in May 2009 by Senator Russ Feingold (D-WI), Senator Sam Brownback (R-KS), Representative Jim McGovern (D-MA), Representative Ed Royce (R-CA) and Representative Brad Miller (D-NC), the bill gained an average of 20 cosponsors a month until passage the next year. The bill passed unanimously in the Senate on March 11th, 2010 with 65 Senators as cosponsors, then passed unanimously in the House of Representatives on May 13th, 2010 with 202 Representatives as cosponsors. These 267 Members of Congress helped bring to the President's desk the most widely cosponsored bill Africa-related piece of legislation in the last 37 years, or as far back as electronic records document.
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Grinning_Dragon 
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Posted on: Oct. 16 2011,6:52 pm |
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(Expatriate @ Oct. 16 2011,10:47 am)
QUOTE Tutsi and Hutu that’s like the Bloods and the Crips, I doubt them killing each other means anything to the Wall Street Banksters, they must see an opportunity to turn a buck in Uganda. this isn’t something Obama just decided to do... LRA Disarmament and Northern Uganda Recovery Act QUOTE Following introduction in May 2009 by Senator Russ Feingold (D-WI), Senator Sam Brownback (R-KS), Representative Jim McGovern (D-MA), Representative Ed Royce (R-CA) and Representative Brad Miller (D-NC), the bill gained an average of 20 cosponsors a month until passage the next year. The bill passed unanimously in the Senate on March 11th, 2010 with 65 Senators as cosponsors, then passed unanimously in the House of Representatives on May 13th, 2010 with 202 Representatives as cosponsors. These 267 Members of Congress helped bring to the President's desk the most widely cosponsored bill Africa-related piece of legislation in the last 37 years, or as far back as electronic records document. Which begs the question. Why in Dantes butthole are we passing legislation about some backwood African country, and why are we sending troops there?
To hell with them losers, let them sort it out on their own, as an American Citizen, I say let them kill each other off, until they figure it out, that their current idea just isn't working.
uganda.
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