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Posted on: Mar. 18 2013,5:25 am |
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Gov Dayton want to increase taxes on the top 2% (democrat, go figure) and increase the cigarette tax. Any smokers here???
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Posted on: Mar. 18 2013,8:22 am |
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you got to pay your bills!
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Posted on: Mar. 18 2013,8:37 am |
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Former smoker, but I'm opposed to these so-called "elective" taxes, because eventually they come around to taxing something you do. These taxes generate some support, because their supporters wrongly feel it doesn't affect them - until it does.
It might not be this particular tax that affects you, but this ABILITY to impose tax on any one thing affects us all.
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Posted on: Mar. 18 2013,9:36 am |
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(This is my real name @ Mar. 18 2013,8:37 am)
QUOTE Former smoker, but I'm opposed to these so-called "elective" taxes, because eventually they come around to taxing something you do. These taxes generate some support, because their supporters wrongly feel it doesn't affect them - until it does.
It might not be this particular tax that affects you, but this ABILITY to impose tax on any one thing affects us all.
I agree, what happens when there aren't enough smokers(I quit over 2 years ago) or, and it's more likely to happen, the black market takes over and we get another gov. Program like the war on drugs?
What's the total gov. Take on a pack of smokes now? If this goes through it's gotta be $5.50 plus?
Yep, truly a tax on the poor.
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Posted on: Mar. 18 2013,12:14 pm |
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QUOTE Gov Dayton want to increase taxes on the top 2% (democrat, go figure) and increase the cigarette tax. Any smokers here???
Thanks for starting the thread, I kept meaning to start a topic about the budget proposal. I'm sure there's no lack of strong opinions on this. The price on a pack/carton sure makes me glad I quit. That being said, you'll notice republicans aren't happy about him wanting to dramatically lower sales taxes and property taxes, so their problem is really about one thing; the top 2%.
Expatriate:
QUOTE you got to pay your bills!
SB~Life is tough buttercup
HA, S.B. shrugs off any empathy for regressive taxes like sales or property taxes skyrocketing for the middle class. He'd even suggest the person should just be homeless: after all, "they don't have a right to a home". Apparently the top 2% are the buttercups that life shouldn't be tough for. 
QUOTE What's the total gov. Take on a pack of smokes now? If this goes through it's gotta be $5.50 plus?
Yep, truly a tax on the poor.
I don't recall repubs complaining about Pawlenty's "health impact fees", and there's a direct correlation between republican LGA cuts and property taxes doubling over the past decade for many households. Reversing that trend makes the tax system more proportional. But don't tell that to the republican strategists, their focus is only on those making above $250k a year.
Anyone who's been to or watched city council or county board meetings in greater Minnesota has seen the line of people at the podium about regressive taxes breaking their budget. I don't think the middle class in this state can handle much more of the republicans "no more taxes" rhetoric.
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Posted on: Mar. 18 2013,12:25 pm |
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Since it's a global market, and we're in competition with impoverished crapholes like China and Mexico, we need to turn our country into an impoverished craphole, too. That seems to be the unspoken philosophy at work, these days.
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Hang on to your A$$ Dayton wants all your money, Even what you have not earned yet?
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