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Santorini 
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Posted on: Dec. 15 2012,9:13 am |
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Minneapolis schools may lower academic standard for participating in school sports? Really?
I thought there was a state,
(mn state high school league) across the board school standard..didnt know it was up to individual schools to determine eligibility requirements 
First the state does away with NCLB accountability because less then 1/2 of the schools couldnt meet the standards, virtually doing away with accountability measures and school responsibility. Now mpls. wants to dumb it down further?
What happened to sport/ extra curricular activity participation being like a reward for acceptable academia, ya know, you want it...you work for it!
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Posted on: Dec. 15 2012,12:50 pm |
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I think the whole thing has turned into a money producing culture. Sportsmanship is a thing of the past. Make as much money off of everything. Rules are meant for breaking, as long as you win. Face it. If you are spending too much time on books, you are not concentrating on the game. WINNING!
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Posted on: Dec. 15 2012,1:22 pm |
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Given the horrible examples of grammar and spelling I see on a day-to-day basis on Facebook, it's fairly apparent that a high-school diploma doesn't mean much anymore. And I've always had an issue with the über-emphasis on high school Dumb-ball programs. Most of the guys on my HS football team were mouth-breathing morons who barely got by, academically speaking.
If you want your kids to get a decent education, send them to China. They're kicking our ass in this regard, as well.
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Posted on: Dec. 16 2012,7:46 am |
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(Santorini @ Dec. 15 2012,9:13 am)
QUOTE First the state does away with NCLB accountability because less then 1/2 of the schools couldnt meet the standards, virtually doing away with accountability measures and school responsibility.
Minnesota has numerous testing requirements, we still do regardless of any changes with NCLB. I don't want you to go on thinking they're, "virtually doing away with accountability measures and school responsibility", so here's the laws, credit, and testing requirements: House Research, State Legislature, MN Dept of Education, Testing Requirements, MN Dept of Education, Graduation Requirements
QUOTE Now mpls. wants to dumb it down further?
What happened to sport/ extra curricular activity participation being like a reward for acceptable academia, ya know, you want it...you work for it!
You included no sources and no details on the issue. So I spent a couple minutes on Google to find out. They're discussing lowering the GPA requirements below C for students who are showing improvement and passing all their classes. The benefit is obvious for the individual students and the school as a whole.
QUOTE The district says, their research shows that kids who play sports have better attendance and grades than those who don't.
"We're looking for an opportunity to get them engaged in something and through that engagement we feel that student will be on the pathway toward academic success," Wicker said.KSTP: Academic Standards Could Change for Sports
I suppose you'd rather we just stick with things like NCLB, and if the student is behind, we just label the whole school as a failure. And in hopes of getting them on track, they'll cut their funding and tell them they're all stupid. Who could've thought of such a magnificent plan!? 
Reminds me of the South Park episode where one child is obese (Eric Cartman), so they label the whole school as obese and an utter failure in physical fitness.
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Posted on: Dec. 16 2012,8:09 am |
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But aren't we still left with the subjective opinion of the teachers? If this is so, they would probably lean towards "social promotion" just to keep them with their friends or just to rid themselves of a problem.
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Posted on: Dec. 16 2012,8:40 am |
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I see SB learned a new word...subjective. 
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Posted on: Dec. 16 2012,9:05 am |
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^ I like old words too, dumbass 
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Posted on: Dec. 16 2012,11:23 am |
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(irisheyes @ Dec. 16 2012,7:46 am)
QUOTE
(Santorini @ Dec. 15 2012,9:13 am)
QUOTE First the state does away with NCLB accountability because less then 1/2 of the schools couldnt meet the standards, virtually doing away with accountability measures and school responsibility. Minnesota has numerous testing requirements, we still do regardless of any changes with NCLB. I don't want you to go on thinking they're, "virtually doing away with accountability measures and school responsibility", so here's the laws, credit, and testing requirements: House Research, State Legislature, MN Dept of Education, Testing Requirements, MN Dept of Education, Graduation Requirements QUOTE Now mpls. wants to dumb it down further?
What happened to sport/ extra curricular activity participation being like a reward for acceptable academia, ya know, you want it...you work for it! You included no sources and no details on the issue. So I spent a couple minutes on Google to find out. They're discussing lowering the GPA requirements below C for students who are showing improvement and passing all their classes. The benefit is obvious for the individual students and the school as a whole. QUOTE The district says, their research shows that kids who play sports have better attendance and grades than those who don't.
"We're looking for an opportunity to get them engaged in something and through that engagement we feel that student will be on the pathway toward academic success," Wicker said.KSTP: Academic Standards Could Change for Sports I suppose you'd rather we just stick with things like NCLB, and if the student is behind, we just label the whole school as a failure. And in hopes of getting them on track, they'll cut their funding and tell them they're all stupid. Who could've thought of such a magnificent plan!? Reminds me of the South Park episode where one child is obese (Eric Cartman), so they label the whole school as obese and an utter failure in physical fitness.
I think you like to argue for the sake of arguing
The Multiple Measures Rating is now used in MN to measure a students/schools success. It is, however, very ambiguous, and still uses standarized testing which is still human testing which we know fails in objectivity!
The MMR looks at proficiency, growth, achievement gap reduction, graduation rates. Does not address retention rates! It measures schools/students against others within the state to come up with progress scores. Wealthier schools with less diversity (ESL, free lunch, LD) will score lower because of these new calculations. They will not have the numbers in the subgroups. This growth measure puts students learning English along side students having a bad day, alongside students with cognitive or other disabilities and what is slow growth for one might be impressive growth for another but the new scores are unable to read that.
But...the voucher rules also no longer require manditory set-asides for staff development. Why if the concern is about school improvement would they eliminate teacher professional development requirements--makes no sense.
(quote): The voucher frees schools from the burdonsome requirement to show continuous progress that educators have insisted have no practical value for students or teachers. (unquote)
Really? What is the purpose of education if not for students to continually show progress
It is still educational discrimination...there is less expectations placed on the subgroups evidenced by the lower MMR number available to those groups vs their mainstream classmates.
YES...funding should be like in any other type of business that offers bonuses...you perform well and do your job than a bonus can be rewarded! You dont, well then ya need to improve. Simple.
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