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Stone-Magnon 

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Posted on: Sep. 21 2011,12:53 am |
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Read the news, it's just uncanny. People, most likely young are willing to risk it all for peanuts. Times must be very, very hard for many. I'm sure you've noticed.
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This is my real name 

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Posted on: Sep. 21 2011,7:15 am |
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(Stone-Magnon @ Sep. 21 2011,12:53 am)
QUOTE Read the news, it's just uncanny. People, most likely young are willing to risk it all for peanuts. Times must be very, very hard for many. I'm sure you've noticed. I don't think break-ins have as much to do with hard times as they do with greed and self-entitlement. You can't eat stolen computers, CDs, Playstations, etc. It's an opportunity crime. People aren't boosting and selling these to eat. That's too much work before the payoff. Sometimes it's drugs, other times it's "just because they wanted it".
Blaming it on "hard times" is a cop out.
Shoplifiting groceries and mugging people for cash fit would fit more in line with desperation crimes. Even so, poverty isn't an excuse to steal. There are areas to turn for help. Though I'm sure some people would rather risk the shame of possibly being caught shoplifting than the shame of visiting the food pantry.
-------------- PEZ the only candy you eat after your favorite fictional character spits it out of their tracheotomy hole.
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hymiebravo 

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Posted on: Sep. 21 2011,8:05 am |
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(2034 @ Sep. 21 2011,2:17 am)
QUOTE (Stone-Magnon @ Sep. 21 2011,12:53 am)
QUOTE it's just uncanny , for peanutsvery, very hard for many. I'm sure you've noticed. Try a (jar) not a can of jiffy, creamy style, no chunks! You need to find something without the high fructose corn goo and the hydrogenated oils.
Can I get some government grant money for passing along this information?
-------------- Do not rejoice when your enemies fall, and do not let your heart be glad when they stumble. PROVERBS 24:17
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Stone-Magnon 

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Posted on: Sep. 21 2011,9:39 am |
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I think 25 years ago I would've agreed with you This is my real name but times really are different. Still no excuse, but the difference is striking. In High school, I took home about $11 an hour cash in today's money and cars, college, dental and other things were affordable. Today's high school workers make what?...about $7.50 and about a 1/4 of that is cut off that for taxes and SS. So you make what $5 an hour take home and everything cost 5 times as much. No jobs even if you go to college. It's just sad.
There are 16 countries today where their kids will be better off then US kids financially. Meaning the ability for one generation to do better that the last.
I've been playing you these Asian videos. These countries have new trains and technology that make us look primitive. We let the kooks, the religious right run the US and look what happened?
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Posted on: Sep. 23 2011,1:18 am |
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I was recently told of an old guy who lived in a small shack/trailer in the woods out near the ocean. He had many friends and spent the later years of his life dedicated to helping people. He never locked his home and his friends were always worried that someone would break in and steal from him. One day he came home and his TV and a few other things were stolen. He still refused to lock his house and some of his friends were even getting a bit angry with him about it. A couple of days later he came back home and there was a new flat screen hanging on the wall for him. As it was told to me, he looked at one if his buddies and said "see! If I had locked my house they never could have brought me that TV!"
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Posted on: Sep. 25 2011,8:35 am |
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The whole problem the way I see it we need to blame the court system, penalties are not stiff enough anymore. I had a conversation with my 21 yr old that has his own problems and he said kids these days don't care because a day in court is a probation sentence and thats it. Until the courts get tough this type of behavior will contuine and you and I will have to keep locking our doors and sleeping with loaded weapons to protect our own.
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Stone-Magnon 

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Posted on: Sep. 25 2011,9:54 am |
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Drug crimes are the only crimes we care about. You know that. It's why we throw away the key in those cases.
Don't sit there and tell me you didn't help create that crap. OK.
So a kid steals a $50 dollar item. Now you want to spend say $20,000-$60,000 of taxpayer funds over it?
What, are you a millionaire or do you want me to chip in and help you pay those bills?
-------------- ...everybody must get stoned
-Bob Dylan
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