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According to Limbaugh and his parrots over at the Tribune's forum Haiti is a Socialist country. Of course spending 5-10 seconds with google you can figure out that Haiti is not a Socialist country, even O'Reilly corrected a guest by pointing out that the government of Haiti does nothing for the people of Haiti.

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The Politics of Haiti take place in a framework of a semi-presidential republic, pluriform multiparty system whereby the President of Haiti is head of state directly elected by popular vote. The Prime Minister acts as head of government, and is appointed by the President from the majority party in the National Assembly. Executive power is exercised by the President and Prime Minister who together constitute the government. Legislative power is vested in both the government and the two chambers of the National Assembly of Haiti. The government is organized unitarily, thus the central government delegates powers to the departments without a constitutional need for consent. The current structure of Haiti's political system was set forth in the Constitution of March 29, 1987.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_Haiti


Since the kooks rarely let facts get in their way these days, you'll hear them repeat this Socialist Haiti line again.


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No its not socialist, it is really nothing actually, it is run by a bunch of tin pot despots and warlords.  The US has Pissed! away 3billion in money to that slumhole of a country,  Haiti needs to hand over the deed to the US, and the US could sell the property and help pay down our national debt or turn it into territory with a naval base / new Gitmo.

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No its not socialist,

You callin Lardbaugh a liar?

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it is really nothing actually, it is run by a bunch of tin pot despots and warlords.

Knowing that, you should correct those morons over at wikipedia and their crazy talk about a " semi-presidential republic, pluriform multiparty system whereby the President of Haiti is head of state directly elected by popular vote". :dunce:


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If anything, I would probably describe Haiti's political structure as, "Organized Chaos"

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semi-presidential republic, pluriform multiparty system whereby the President of Haiti is head of state directly elected by popular vote".


What does that even mean?  Is that a recipe for lasagna? :rofl:


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It reminded me of Monty Python and the Holy Grail when Dennis explained their form of government.

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ARTHUR:  How do you do, good lady.  I am Arthur, King of the Britons.
     Who's castle is that?
 WOMAN:  King of the who?
 ARTHUR:  The Britons.
 WOMAN:  Who are the Britons?
 ARTHUR:  Well, we all are. we're all Britons and I am your king.
 WOMAN:  I didn't know we had a king.  I thought we were an autonomous
     collective.
 DENNIS:  You're fooling yourself.  We're living in a dictatorship.
     A self-perpetuating autocracy in which the working classes--
 WOMAN:  Oh there you go, bringing class into it again.
 DENNIS:  That's what it's all about if only people would--
 ARTHUR:  Please, please good people.  I am in haste.  Who lives
     in that castle?
 WOMAN:  No one live there.
 ARTHUR:  Then who is your lord?
 WOMAN:  We don't have a lord.
 ARTHUR:  What?
 DENNIS:  I told you.  We're an anarcho-syndicalist commune.  We take
     it in turns to act as a sort of executive officer for the week.
 ARTHUR:  Yes.
 DENNIS:  But all the decision of that officer have to be ratified
     at a special biweekly meeting.
 ARTHUR:  Yes, I see.
 DENNIS:  By a simple majority in the case of purely internal affairs,--
 ARTHUR:  Be quiet!
 DENNIS:  --but by a two-thirds majority in the case of more--
 ARTHUR:  Be quiet!  I order you to be quiet!
 WOMAN:  Order, eh -- who does he think he is?
 ARTHUR:  I am your king!
 WOMAN:  Well, I didn't vote for you.
 ARTHUR:  You don't vote for kings.
 WOMAN:  Well, 'ow did you become king then?
 ARTHUR:  The Lady of the Lake,
     [angels sing]
     her arm clad in the purest shimmering samite, held aloft Excalibur
     from the bosom of the water signifying by Divine Providence that I,
     Arthur, was to carry Excalibur.
     [singing stops]
     That is why I am your king!
 DENNIS:  Listen -- strange women lying in ponds distributing swords
     is no basis for a system of government.  Supreme executive power
     derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical
     aquatic ceremony.
 ARTHUR:  Be quiet!
 DENNIS:  Well you can't expect to wield supreme executive power
     just 'cause some watery tart threw a sword at you!
 ARTHUR:  Shut up!
 DENNIS:  I mean, if I went around sayin' I was an empereror just
     because some moistened bint had lobbed a scimitar at me they'd
     put me away!
 ARTHUR:  Shut up!  Will you shut up!
 DENNIS:  Ah, now we see the violence inherent in the system.
 ARTHUR:  Shut up!
 DENNIS:  Oh!  Come and see the violence inherent in the system!
     HELP! HELP! I'm being repressed!
 ARTHUR:  Bloody peasant!

 DENNIS:  Oh, what a give away.  Did you here that, did you here that,
     eh?  That's what I'm on about -- did you see him repressing me,
     you saw it didn't you?

http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/mphg/mphg.htm


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LOL Good Ol Monty Python.

If that was to debut in todays time I have a feeling it would be on HBO or Showtime, it would be to much for the touch feely people that worship at the alter of P.C.  Because after all its for the Chiiiiiiildreeeeeeen, and their easily bruised feelings. :rofl:  And this misconception that there is a Right not be offended.  :rofl:


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(Liberal @ Jan. 17 2010,12:20 pm)
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According to Limbaugh and his parrots over at the Tribune's forum Haiti is a Socialist country. Of course spending 5-10 seconds with google you can figure out that Haiti is not a Socialist country, even O'Reilly corrected a guest by pointing out that the government of Haiti does nothing for the people of Haiti.

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The Politics of Haiti take place in a framework of a semi-presidential republic, pluriform multiparty system whereby the President of Haiti is head of state directly elected by popular vote. The Prime Minister acts as head of government, and is appointed by the President from the majority party in the National Assembly. Executive power is exercised by the President and Prime Minister who together constitute the government. Legislative power is vested in both the government and the two chambers of the National Assembly of Haiti. The government is organized unitarily, thus the central government delegates powers to the departments without a constitutional need for consent. The current structure of Haiti's political system was set forth in the Constitution of March 29, 1987.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_Haiti


Since the kooks rarely let facts get in their way these days, you'll hear them repeat this Socialist Haiti line again.

In other words, a combination of a democracy and dictatorship.

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If Brown wins in Massachusetts tomorrow the kooks on the right might move from the "Depression" stage to "The Upward Turn".
At this rate they should reach "Acceptance and HOPE" stage around the 2012 Election. :sarcasm:

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7 Stages of Grief...

1. SHOCK & DENIAL-
You will probably react to learning of the loss with numbed disbelief. You may deny the reality of the loss at some level, in order to avoid the pain. Shock provides emotional protection from being overwhelmed all at once. This may last for weeks.

2. PAIN & GUILT-
As the shock wears off, it is replaced with the suffering of unbelievable pain. Although excruciating and almost unbearable, it is important that you experience the pain fully, and not hide it, avoid it or escape from it with alcohol or drugs.

You may have guilty feelings or remorse over things you did or didn't do with your loved one. Life feels chaotic and scary during this phase.

3. ANGER & BARGAINING-
Frustration gives way to anger, and you may lash out and lay unwarranted blame for the death on someone else. Please try to control this, as permanent damage to your relationships may result. This is a time for the release of bottled up emotion.

You may rail against fate, questioning "Why me?" You may also try to bargain in vain with the powers that be for a way out of your despair ("I will never drink again if you just bring him back")

4. "DEPRESSION", REFLECTION, LONELINESS-
Just when your friends may think you should be getting on with your life, a long period of sad reflection will likely overtake you. This is a normal stage of grief, so do not be "talked out of it" by well-meaning outsiders. Encouragement from others is not helpful to you during this stage of grieving.

During this time, you finally realize the true magnitude of your loss, and it depresses you. You may isolate yourself on purpose, reflect on things you did with your lost one, and focus on memories of the past. You may sense feelings of emptiness or despair.


5. THE UPWARD TURN-
As you start to adjust to life without your dear one, your life becomes a little calmer and more organized. Your physical symptoms lessen, and your "depression" begins to lift slightly.

6. RECONSTRUCTION & WORKING THROUGH-
As you become more functional, your mind starts working again, and you will find yourself seeking realistic solutions to problems posed by life without your loved one. You will start to work on practical and financial problems and reconstructing yourself and your life without him or her.

7. ACCEPTANCE & HOPE-
During this, the last of the seven stages in this grief model, you learn to accept and deal with the reality of your situation. Acceptance does not necessarily mean instant happiness. Given the pain and turmoil you have experienced, you can never return to the carefree, untroubled YOU that existed before this tragedy. But you will find a way forward.

7 stages of grief...



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MEH---
All that matters is Kennedy is still dead, and rightfully so, to bad it took this long for him to die.


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