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Medicare to begin fining hospitals that re-admit too many people within 30 days...

Who was it that said; cuts obama made to medicare to fund obamacare wont affect beneficiaries?


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WASHINGTON (AP) — If you or an elderly relative have been hospitalized recently and noticed extra attention when the time came to be discharged, there's more to it than good customer service.  As of Monday, Medicare will start fining hospitals that have too many patients readmitted within 30 days of discharge due to complications. The penalties are part of a broader push under President Barack Obama's health care law to improve quality while also trying to save taxpayers money.
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Medicare evaluated readmission rates at 3,367 of the nation's hospitals and will impose penalties on 2,211 starting in October, according to KHN. The analysis shows 278 hospitals will receive this year's maximum penalty of 1 percent. On the other side of the spectrum, 50 hospitals will receive the minimum penalty of 0.01 percent, KHN reports.

The penalties are intended to create financial incentives for the quality of care hospitals provide, instead of the number of procedures. But physicians debate whether readmission rates are the best measure of outcomes.
FauxNews:  More than 2,200 hospitals face penalties for high readmissions


I'll take the criticisms of conservatives more serious when they come up with an actual solution themselves on health care.

Sorry, one republican came up with a solution.  What's his name again?


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WASHINGTON (AP) — If you or an elderly relative have been hospitalized recently and noticed extra attention when the time came to be discharged, there's more to it than good customer service.  As of Monday, Medicare will start fining hospitals that have too many patients readmitted within 30 days of discharge due to complications. The penalties are part of a broader push under President Barack Obama's health care law to improve quality while also trying to save taxpayers money.
BusinessWeek, AP story


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Medicare evaluated readmission rates at 3,367 of the nation's hospitals and will impose penalties on 2,211 starting in October, according to KHN. The analysis shows 278 hospitals will receive this year's maximum penalty of 1 percent. On the other side of the spectrum, 50 hospitals will receive the minimum penalty of 0.01 percent, KHN reports.

The penalties are intended to create financial incentives for the quality of care hospitals provide, instead of the number of procedures. But physicians debate whether readmission rates are the best measure of outcomes.
FauxNews:  More than 2,200 hospitals face penalties for high readmissions


I'll take the criticisms of conservatives more serious when they come up with an actual solution themselves on health care.

Sorry, one republican came up with a solution.  What's his name again?

Healthcare cost is not as cut and dried as you seem to think...insurance companies = bad guys
                          obamacare= good guys
There are so many layers involved with cost its difficult to separate.  Obamacare has simply added to these layer-costs.  There is no way obamacare will be able to sustain itself without sacrificing service and quality; case in point..begin by fining hospitals over medicare re-admits and the true loser in this scenario is the elderly and the vulnerable.
The republicans did have an alternative and you know it.
Its called competition..crossing state lines to purchase insurance..but the left was too enamored with obamas/pelosi/reid/medias metaphors, empty promises and attention-grabbing buzz words to realize/admit the potential future consequences..that nationalized healthcare cannot be all things to all people!  Something will have to give.
Too much of obamacare is already in place that it would be next to impossible to repeal.
What will be interesting to see is the number of healthcare facilities/doctors who will begin to refuse medicare patients.  The cost to these places to accept medicare is too high..


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There is no way obamacare will be able to sustain itself without sacrificing service and quality

Not just a theory, because every other industrialized nation does it every day, for half of our per capita cost, and our expensive care still has worse results because there's no incentive otherwise.

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begin by fining hospitals over medicare re-admits and the true loser in this scenario is the elderly and the vulnerable.

The status quo you're advocating for isn't helping those people if they're proving the care isn't adequate or cost effective.  So 0.01% to a whopping 1% that only impacts a fraction of them to change that.  In the business world they call that quality control and customer satisfaction.

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The republicans did have an alternative and you know it.

Here's another thing I know, history remembers Presidents and Congressional leaders on what they do, not what they talk about, not what they're thinking about implementing.

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Its called competition..crossing state lines to purchase insurance

Funny, I thought republicans were about states' rights?  So that idea means states won't regulate insurance, instead you'll have federal regulations and eliminate the states ones.  I thought you folks were about explicit Constitution reading and the 10th Amendment.  Which way is it?

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What will be interesting to see is the number of healthcare facilities/doctors who will begin to refuse medicare patients.

A poster on here often calls that competition.   :D

The healthcare facilities/doctors can accept or refuse patients, but of them a very small percentage might have readmissions so high that they'll get a whopping 1 percent less.

But the vast majority "COMPETE well enough with each other that it will give them an added INCENTIVE to delivery better quality."  

^To quote a poster here, "it's called competition."   :peaceout:


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