Forum: Opinion
Topic: Get your flu shot?
started by: Mamma

Posted by Mamma on Oct. 20 2004,10:31 am
I guess I just don't understand the big panic going on about the flu vacine. I have lived this long without a flu shot...and might even make it a few more years. Remember when we all just got the flu? Now it sounds like  you are a goner if you don't get in line. I have done so many things through the years that were supposed to shorten my life. ....I actually drank from a water hose, kissed a dog on the lips, and cut the seatbelts out of a car because they were uncomfortable to sit on. I don't believe I will be standing in line and pushing old folks out of the way to get a flu shot.
Posted by Paul Harvey on Oct. 20 2004,10:47 am
People just want what they can't have. It's kind of like those who sit in line for cheap gas during a gas war.
Posted by albertleamom on Oct. 20 2004,10:59 am
I don't understand it either.  I do think the children with illness and the old people should get them, but come on!!  We have all had the flu a time or two and it sure didn'd kill us.  I think it may even make your body stronger to fight it off on its own.. Just my opinion
Posted by DrBombay on Oct. 21 2004,2:38 am
I think I'd rather get the flu naturally, by breathing in someone else's vile flu germs than risk injecting the synthetic man made kind and getting the flu by reaction.  :p
Posted by Mamma on Oct. 21 2004,8:53 am
When I read in the Minneapolis paper that the shots are only 70-80% effective for the general population and 20-30% effective in a nursing home setting, it made me wonder why they even bother.  :p
Posted by hoosier on Oct. 21 2004,10:30 am
Yeah, there is a shortage, but our politicians in Washinton have gotten there shots.

And the two idiots running for President are blaming each other for the shortage.

But I have to say, Bush's new attack is really funny to me.

Bush blames it on Kerry because Kerry has voted against legislation that would loosen the liability for the drug companies. In other words, Kerry wants them held responsible for contaminated drugs, Bush doesnt want to hold them responsible. At least financialy

The funny thing though, is that in this case, there is a shortage because of a contaminated drug supply.

If it were the way Bush wants it, wouldnt that contaminated supply have a better chance of getting to the public?

LOL, I mean really? Didnt the vote to make them liable, help prevent contaminated flu shots from killing more?

Bush kills me, he says $hit like this all the time, and no one notices, LOL!  :D

Posted by Liberal on Oct. 21 2004,1:29 pm
For those of you that wonder what the big deal is about the flu, try getting the flu when you already have a chronic illness. I had my spleen removed to control a blood/bleeding disorder 5 years ago and I'm supposed to get a flu shot every year. The first 4 years I skipped it because I'm stubborn and rarely follow the doctors advice. And of course all 4 years that I skipped it I ended up in the ER with the flu. One year I even got bacterial pneumonia along with it and that time I ended up needing to use an inhaler for nearly a year because of the damage it did to my lungs.

Then last year I finally gave in and got the stupid shot for the first time, and believe it or not I made it through the whole flu season without an ER visit or even being on antibiotics. So, I learned the hard way that when you have a chronic health problem it can be really nasty virus that will make you so sick that you think you're going to die.

I won't get a shot this year because of the shortage, I figure that even with my health problems I have a better chance of making it through it than a elderly person would, but, I have to admit I'm pretty nervous about it, and my wife isn't happy about my decision either.


Also from what I heard on CNN if you're a politician over 65 or with a chronic illness then you get the flu shot, otherwise you suffer through it like everyone else, but, if you're in prison then you'll get it. ???


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7th leading cause of death in 1999 and 2000 was "pneumonia/influenza

Source: National Vital Statistics Report, Volume 52, Number 9 (November 2003)


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An estimated 100,000 hospitalizations and about 20,000 deaths occur each year from the flu or its complications.

< Focus on the flu , National Institute of Alergies and Infectious Disease >

Posted by jimhanson on Oct. 21 2004,2:04 pm
Cheney got his (age and heart problems) and Clinton got his (heart problems).  You shouldn't have any problem getting one--and you should have it.  

How about the flu-mist--there's supposed to be a lot of that around--OK if you are healthy when you take it.

Posted by hoosier on Oct. 21 2004,2:16 pm
Liberal, thats not the story I seen. CNN said that all politicians were told they were in a high risk group, because they shake a lot of hands and kiss babies.

That was the exact story.

Had nothing to do with being over 65 or being high risk.

Posted by allergic to bogus on Oct. 22 2004,2:25 pm
I agree with momma and albertleamom. I haven't gotten one is over 20 yrs. and when I did it was fatal for my unborn child. I will never get one again. Give them to those immune deficient ones and let the rest of us be. I detest the scare tactics of the media. Always trying to set America into a panic. Oh, look the sky is falling. RUN!!! (unless you like so few others have something called common sense).
Posted by Liberal on Oct. 22 2004,3:13 pm
The media isn't telling people to get one, they are telling people not to get one unless they are high risk.

Here is a map from the State of MN showing that we a more than a 1/4 million flu shots short if we only vaccinate those that got one last year.



I called my doctor's nurse to see if it's even possible to get one in Albert Lea anymore, she said that there isn't any left at the ALMC and the reason is partly because they sold 1100 shots to the nursing homes. She didn't know if the nursing homes had enough flu shots to cover their residents yet.

Posted by Ole1kanobe on Oct. 22 2004,7:03 pm
So then is stupidity considered a cronic illness? If so, I know a few people that are currently in government that should be at the front of the line for their shot!  :p
Posted by hoosier on Oct. 23 2004,11:58 am
Yeah Geo, they will be in line right behind you!   :D
Posted by DrBombay on Oct. 24 2004,1:37 am
Pneumonia shots are available, and isn't that what causes most of the deaths from the flu.  Someone told me that the pneumonia shots are good for life.  Is that true?  Liberal you need to take atleast 2-3 grams of Vit. C everyday.  No kidding it helps keep your immune system where it should be.
Posted by GEOKARJO on Oct. 25 2004,10:17 am
Hoosier where did I post in this topic to even have you acknowledge me ??? I guess I'll Be right behind you :laugh:
Posted by Truth on Oct. 27 2004,3:47 am
Actually in 2003 the nation as a whole did not use something on the order of 30% of the flu vacine that was produced for that year.  Huge quantities of it were simply thrown away after the season and its usefulness had passed.

Every projection for the alleged wave of death that awaits us has been grossly exaggerated.  Flu is endemic and that's life.

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