Forum: Opinion
Topic: Grammar
started by: Truth

Posted by Truth on Mar. 06 2004,8:04 am
I'm new here and I enjoy the wildlife that post here but for the sake of maintaining at least the appearance of intellect do me just one favor.

Stop using "your" when you mean "you're"

I know I did it once but, what the hell minnow it's as though you don't even understand that there is a difference.

Posted by rosebudinal on Mar. 06 2004,9:19 am
It drives me crazy when I hear ppl say"member when we used to....."( rather than Remember when)  my children said that when they were tots and yet more and more frequently, I hear adults say it. Another one is "He says to me and then I says to him"( I have heard educators do this!!!!)
Posted by irisheyes on Mar. 07 2004,2:53 am
I see that your posting this mainly because of minnow, but I do it also.  I'll gladly correct this in the future in my posts if someone will explain the difference, I never was any good at gramar.

As for minnow, he does it on purpose, so theirs no hope their.  In fact, he'll probably do it even worse now that he knows it bothers you.

Posted by Spidey on Mar. 07 2004,9:59 am
This is a forum .. not an english class. Unless we truely cannot understand what the person is saying or meaning ... who really cares?

FYI ....

Your means "your house, your opinions, your car"

You're means *You are* > "You're in a house, You're driving a car, You're opinionated"

Posted by Truth on Mar. 07 2004,4:58 pm
You're right Spidey, this is a forum and like most forums it involves the use of language.  You may not like it but, people will make assumptions about your intelligence based upon the words you use.  One would hope that as intelligent as minnow seems to think he is he would take care to use correct english.  If minnow and others can't even master third grade language skills how can I be expected to think that anything else they say is of any value.  I know I make the mistake and if I do point it out but, I make good efforts to use the language correctly.

Also, Irisheyes there's, there, their and they're are not interchangable.  Red marks all over your paper.  Shame.

Posted by Spidey on Mar. 07 2004,6:15 pm
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Also, Irisheyes there's, there, their and they're are not interchangable


The correct spelling is: interchangeable   ???

You can't be serious about minnow. I can't even remember the last time I responded to one of his posts ... he's more for entertainment then to be taken seriously.

You will find many errors in grammar and spelling in this forum. Not because all of us haven't mastered the third grade, but many times people are short on time and they just mess up once in a while trying to get their point across in a hurry.

Life is way too short to sweat the little things.

Posted by Ole1kanobe on Mar. 07 2004,8:47 pm
Now this is entertainment! :beer:
Next up; geography finals 2004!  :p

Posted by The Advocate on Mar. 07 2004,9:48 pm
I always get such a kick out of this one.  Some of the most brilliant people I have ever met can't spell for crap.  English teachers, in particular, are frustrated writers, who were never quite good enough or strong enough to go out on their own to begin with.  You have heard the old saying "Those who can do, those who can't teach"  Of all the majors in college teaching was the one for the BONE HEADS.  And I got a charge out of the parents who proclaimed that their little angel got all A's.  Let me guess?  They were in education?
Posted by Truth on Mar. 07 2004,9:54 pm
Geography sweet!
Posted by Truth on Mar. 07 2004,10:06 pm
I totally get the misspelling from writing in haste, I do.  But, come on.  Your....you're.  They are two different words!!!

I'm not sweating anything here.  I just mispelled interchangeable.  I'm not perfect but, the little things need more attention now days.  Research some of todays sociological studies into the "dumbing down" of america.  Your, You're....there, their who cares?  People used to care about that sort of thing but, today hey you're totally screwing up the language but I recon we get wacha mean.  DUH  Were all goin down to the movie pictures show on hour bikes today.  There hold'n hour seats down their fo us two.  

Yeah that really helps people take you seriously when you sound like a three year old.  If you didn't pick up these simple language skills in school then what else did you miss.  

"I see stupid people.  They're everywhere.  They walk around and they don't even know they're stupid."

Posted by Truth on Mar. 07 2004,10:14 pm
Tell it to the judge, we know all about you and your damn french fry conspiracy.
Posted by Ole1kanobe on Mar. 08 2004,7:58 am
Perhaps it is just a Freeborn County thing with all of this spelling stuff; after all when family's have to pay for small government to feel big by getting new offices in a mansion, how are we to teach our youth anything about possesion (your) unless it is third party?  ???
Posted by Frustrated on Mar. 08 2004,10:22 am
Aint nothin worse then stupid people :)
Posted by cpu_slave on Mar. 08 2004,12:44 pm
Quote (Frustrated @ Mar. 08 2004,10:22:am)
Aint nothin worse then stupid people :)

except self-appointed grammar nazis….  :angry:
Posted by Tiger on Mar. 10 2004,11:48 am
Truth, I completely agree with you on the whole there,their and they're thing.  However, I find it more offensive that you don't know that America should be capitalized!!!!  If you are going to teach grammar than you yourself should begin with knowing where a ? should go.  You should also know when to cpitalize a word.  If I remeber correctly, I learned punctuation and capitalization before I learned conjunctions.  If you go back and proof read some of the things you have posted, your paper too will be full of red marks! "Shame"  In my book,
Posted by GEOKARJO on Mar. 10 2004,4:43 pm
I was never much on language skills and spelling as I was taught two languages in my youth, English and Native Osage and so have a love for math and the international language $$$$$$$.
Posted by MrTarzan on Mar. 10 2004,6:44 pm
Now this is humor.  Funny stuff in here.  :laugh:   We should all try harder to write well, but dang it when u jus git on a roll u cant hep it.   :laugh:
Posted by Frustrated on Mar. 11 2004,2:01 pm
Quote (Tiger @ Mar. 10 2004,11:48:am)
 If you are going to teach grammar than you yourself should begin with

Tiger - I believe the correct term is "then", not "than".  Sorry, Couldn't resist  :)

Posted by Tiger on Mar. 11 2004,2:09 pm
Not a problem, thanks for the correction.  I think my whole point was that if "Truth" is going to try to teach people grammar than he/she should in turn use good grammar themselves.  But again, thanks for the correction. :)
Posted by irisheyes on Mar. 11 2004,7:04 pm
It's amazing the amount of research on statistics, study's, and articles that people on here post to share with us.  It seems trivial to spend so much time focusing on gramar when its hard enough for some to get facts strait.  Remember, truth is the same one that called me a bean-counter when I asked him to find some facts to back up his claims in another thread.  Also, with under 20 posts so far, he's atleast once mistaken which user posted what.

I've been trying to be better about the "your & you're" thing lately since truth asked nicely, and spidey explained the difference for me.  C'mon though, since then this has turned into a spelling and gramar class.

Posted by rosebudinal on Mar. 11 2004,11:47 pm
Aren't we all here to better educate ourselves? Or at least to get something off our chests. It just comes across so much better when there isn't alot of typos and improper usage of the english language. Geez, I just went back and proof read this and made 2 corrections on myself. :p
Posted by rosebudinal on Mar. 11 2004,11:48 pm
Sorry, just having a little fun!!!!
Posted by jimhanson on Mar. 12 2004,9:18 am
Rosebudinal--you are correct.  While the point of the Forum is communication--not grammar--the point that the writer is trying to communicate is better made if the grammar and spelling is correct.

I consider myself fairly good at spelling, but I keep a dictionary on the shelf right above the computer.  Some of the guys at the airport ask "Why bother?".  My answer comes in three parts:

"Because the reader EXPECTS and DESERVES it".  "Because an argument carries more weight if made correctly".  "Because I don't want to give my "debating adversaries" EVEN ONE LITTLE ITEM THEY CAN RIB ME FOR (for which they can rib me?). :D  (ESPECIALLY "STRIDENT" ADVERSARIES LIKE LIBERAL AND CPU_SLAVE--never give them an inch!) :D

Posted by Truth on Mar. 14 2004,9:53 am
Yeah.  The written word is hard.  I screw it up all the time.  (ie. America.  Probably in a hurry or fuming at the stupids.) But, damn I get your and you're right more than not.

All I hoped to do by pointing out the poor grammar was to show several people in here that they could do better.  It seems trivial, I know.  However, consistant errors make you seem dumb.  I don't think it's very effective to spell out an argument when you consistantly mar faulty thinking with faulty language, spelling and grammar.   Also, you can all take notice that I do not point out simple typing errors or a misspelled word here and there.  I'm just the only one willing to take the back lash and stand up for something I consider to be a foundation of good comunication.  So fire away. I can take it.

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