Topic: Illegal activities at the library?
started by: Concerned
Posted by Concerned on Feb. 05 2004,5:21 pm
I heard a couple of kids talking at Applebees the other day about how their parents have stopped them from downloading copywritten material (music) at home and how 'unfair' it was that they did that. One of the kids then spoke up and said that they found a way around it by going to the library and downloading the songs they want then upload them to a web site then download them once they get home.Anybody know if the library is actualy letting these kids do this?
Posted by Jesus Juice on Feb. 05 2004,6:13 pm
you shouldn't eavesdrop like that.-JJ
Posted by irisheyes on Feb. 05 2004,6:21 pm
The way people download copyrighted files off the internet is useing person to person software (people sharing files with each other over the internet). But you can't use it unless you have the software on the computer your useing. Even if they got the software on the computer without a librarian catching them, I don't think they'd have enough time to download the files they want. So, I think the kids you over heard, are full of it.
Posted by minnow on Feb. 05 2004,6:22 pm
Are you making certain large corporations aren't getting ripped off by a couple teens who didn't have to go out by a CD? LOL
It's none of your business. The record company didn't give me a refund when the $20 CD I bought had one OK song on it, so they owe me. Are you going to fight just as hard to see I get my money from Sony Music?
Posted by Ole1kanobe on Feb. 05 2004,6:58 pm
This story could be legit (but I personally can't say that it is or not), even if you do not use something like Napster, Kazaa, or any other p2p (peer 2 peer) software, there are literally thousands of web sites across the net that still have music downloads on them. Look at how many sites out there still have pirated software titles for download, even though the 'industry' has taken action to shut them down.When people run their own server from home on a cable modem or something, the site can be turned on and off at will, or protect that part of the site with a simple java based password script that has no outside link to that particular page thereby controlling exactly who can and can't access that section of the site. Until someone leaks the actual address to that page.
It all goes right back to supply and demand, if someone demands it, someone else will supply it, regardless of what the copyright holders have to say about it.
Posted by guest on Feb. 06 2004,8:18 am
I wouldn't doubt the kids are stealing music and doing much worse on those computers. But what can be done about it? The librarian is to busy working Sparks for a new library to worry about what's going on in this library.
Posted by reader on Feb. 06 2004,10:20 am
I have to agree with guest. Every time I go to the library it is more and more cluttered. It does not need to be. Maybe if the head librarian spent more time interacting with the users, instead of rearranging for the worse, she could monitor what the kids are doing on the internet. Who knows, some of them might even be reading this forum. I sure hope not because most of what is put on here is hearsay, rumor and even outright lies.
Posted by Frustrated on Feb. 06 2004,3:42 pm
What we have here is a revolution. People are fed up with the over-pricing of cds and the industries refusal to release them in formats they want. RIAA will continue to fight, but they won't win by attacking their customers. They need to find ways to make money by giving customers what they want. They are starting to offer legal downloads, but at about a buck a song they are still too greedy. A cd can hold up to around 200 songs in MP3 format - so $200 for a cd?. There is some value to downloading from an authorized site where one knows the songs don't have skips, etc, but that value is not more than maybe a dime a song considering the competition is free songs. Another thing they are doing is starting to release more music on DVD, which for now is mostly too big of a file size to download effectively.
Posted by free music rules on Feb. 06 2004,4:08 pm
When CD's first came out back in the early 80's they were around $17-$20 per disc. With most new technology it is spendy at first but then drops dramatically (See DVD burners 1 year ago vs. today's prices). Not with CD's. Sure some places like Best Buy can sell them for $14-$15 but most real music stores sell them for about $17.How much does a CD really cost in material? Less then a quarter per disc retail so the record companies are probably paying about a nickel per piece and selling the music for $17.
I know a certain label dropped their music prices to $9.99, too little, too late idiots.
Is it any wonder why people are fed up with it & getting their music for free?
SCREW THE MUSIC INDUSTRY & THE RIAA---you are getting what you deserve and all of us you have been screwing for the past 20 years are loving it!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by irisheyes on Feb. 06 2004,5:49 pm
Some albums lately have included a DVD with music videos. I think it will become more popular as the recording industry try's to have other incentives to buying the album than just the music cd.
Posted by free music rules on Feb. 06 2004,6:03 pm
True irisheyes but on many channels on IRC you can download music videos for free. The music industry is, as always, behind the curve. 
Posted by Average IQ on Feb. 06 2004,9:04 pm
Minnow wants everyone to sue everyone. Does that mean he would support the music industry's lawsuits against illegal downloaders?
Posted by minner on Feb. 06 2004,9:19 pm
Hell no. CD's are a rip-off...screw em'I'm a member of the new naspster. 99 cents per song isn't bad at tall. Instead of $17 and tax for 1 or 2 good songs I can cherry pick em' for a buck each.
Posted by Ole1kanobe on Feb. 06 2004,10:34 pm
It's really a rip-off when you do the math and see how much the artist(s) gets per CD.
Posted by T. S. on Feb. 06 2004,10:51 pm
sad but true but hard to feel sorry for them when they are driving Bentley's & living in 15,000 sq ft homes. They can take up their gripes with their record label.As far as I am concerned, lifes a b1tch, tough sh1t, you don't like it, go get a real job which 99% of the musicians couldn't even comprehend.
WHAT, ME LOWER MYSELF AND WORK FOR A LIVING? WHY I NEVER?!?!
Posted by guppie on Feb. 06 2004,11:00 pm
lol, lol... , ...
Posted by Clovis on Feb. 07 2004,9:38 am
Okay. So... is this happening at the library or not? We're all aware now of the issues with copyright violations, so let's get back to how this is relevant at the library.