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Topic: 2nd amendment
started by: Self-Banished

Posted by Self-Banished on Feb. 16 2019,4:39 pm

Looks like the Trump thread is going to have a 2nd amendment debate.

Might as well start fresh.

Posted by was1 on Feb. 16 2019,5:24 pm

No debate. Enforce the current laws. Have a national registry.

Posted by Self-Banished on Feb. 16 2019,7:02 pm

There is no law that forces a national registry.
All firearms stores are compelled to do a background check on gun sales, all buyers must fill out form 4473. An FBI instant check will yield a “proceed” or “delay”. Firearms stores are require to keep a bound book of all guns entering and leaving the store.

Posted by Self-Banished on Feb. 17 2019,8:57 am

On to the meaning of the 2nd amendment

< https://youtu.be/tk3GUp8PFlM >

Posted by Self-Banished on Feb. 17 2019,6:04 pm

< https://youtu.be/Bsidht3X6kI >

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Feb. 18 2019,9:14 am

(was1 @ Feb. 16 2019,5:24 pm)

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No debate. Enforce the current laws. Have a national registry.

Gun control laws need to be repealed at the local, state and federal level.
NO! To national registry.

Posted by was1 on Feb. 18 2019,10:26 am

so, just keep letting people who should not have weapons have them to kill innocent people?

Tell that to the families who just had their loved ones killed while at work.

Posted by Self-Banished on Feb. 18 2019,11:13 am

^^ what law would have prevented this tragedy? He was a convicted felon.

As John Lott says, “more guns less crime”

< https://www.press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/493636.html >

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Feb. 18 2019,11:14 am

(was1 @ Feb. 18 2019,10:26 am)

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so, just keep letting people who should not have weapons have them to kill innocent people?

Tell that to the families who just had their loved ones killed while at work.

Placing undo burdens and infringements upon an enumerated negative right upon 99.9% of the population for the .1% who have decided to abuse said right isn't about safety, it's about control and regulating an enumerated right into a privilege. A right delayed is a right denied.

Posted by Self-Banished on Feb. 19 2019,4:49 am

< https://www.tulsaworld.com/news....2c.html >

And now Kentucky

< https://www.breitbart.com/politic....-permit > :thumbsup:

Posted by Self-Banished on Feb. 19 2019,4:15 pm

Very nice to live in the county I do.

I went in to renew my permit and because I did it 30 days early I got a $50 discount. :thumbsup:

I asked how this discount came about and was told the sheriff lowered it because of “excessive revenue”

We need more politicians like him.

Posted by Self-Banished on Feb. 19 2019,4:28 pm

And like these

< https://www.opb.org/news....heriffs >

Posted by Self-Banished on Feb. 22 2019,4:24 am

Be there! Your rights depend on it.

< https://www.minnesotagunrights.org/gun-rights-rally-this-weekend/ >

Posted by Self-Banished on Feb. 25 2019,1:54 pm

< https://www.google.com/amp....ves.amp >

Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 08 2019,5:11 am

The absolute truth

< https://www.facebook.com/27469971051/posts/10157279404451052?sfns=mo >

Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 11 2019,4:28 pm

Sanctuary

< https://www.google.com/amp....7773294 >

Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 17 2019,6:05 am

Probably won’t happen but it’d be nice.

< https://www.kmov.com/news....3c.html >

Posted by Expatriate on Mar. 17 2019,9:33 am

^^You may have posted something about this....

Remington is being sued over how it marketed the Bushmaster rifle used to kill 20 children and six educators at Sandy Hook Elementary School in 2012..

I'm not sure I want or need a plastic and pot metal short barreled rifle but if I was going to buy it'd be now...

When you sue the manufacture the price of the product will increase.
If this sets a precedent smaller manufactures will go under...

Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 17 2019,1:08 pm

^^ so we should sue automobile manufacturers for drunk driving deaths?
I agree with the smaller manufacturers

Wether it's made of 7075 aluminum or the fine steel of a M1A, it doesn't matter, the person behind the weapon did the crime. I hope Remington appeals this though they have been a bit off the last decade or so.

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Mar. 17 2019,6:50 pm

The Conn. state supreme court justices that ruled in the allowance of the suit still violates the PLCAA. I suspect once this gets to a federal circuit court its going to get tossed.

Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 20 2019,1:24 pm

Wow, look at this

< http://thesentinel.net/politic....10-vote >

A big can of worms.

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 03 2019,4:55 am

A true American :thumbsup:

< https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation....3a6fd07 >

We need more sheriffs like this.

Posted by Expatriate on Apr. 03 2019,7:04 am

^^400 Bad Request

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 03 2019,4:53 pm

here, the goofy news has it too

< https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/31/us/colorado-red-flag-gun-law/index.html >

Posted by Self-Banished on May 14 2019,3:24 pm

Folks wonder why I call them Nazis :blush:

< https://youtu.be/Bpzmvz2aXoQ >

Posted by Self-Banished on Aug. 04 2019,1:34 pm

Here we go again, El Paso

< https://www.thedailybeast.com/el-paso....ta-mall >

And Dayton Ohio

< https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation....g-texas >

Now with the Nazis abysmal performance this last week in their debates plus the great economic numbers reported one just has to think, especially with the coincidence of plural events...

< https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_flag >

Posted by Expatriate on Aug. 04 2019,2:00 pm

^^According to his manifesto and twitter account he's a Trump fan killing “foreign looking” folks....Chalk up these killings to Donald Trump, no question about that one at all.

< https://slate.com/news-an....to.html >

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Aug. 04 2019,6:07 pm

(Expatriate @ Aug. 04 2019,2:00 pm)

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In that case, then we all can blame a few democrat politicians for the same rise of violence on the left and when illegal aliens kill an American citizen.

All in all, the blame lies solely on those who perpetuate such acts, they alone decided to act. Quit blaming others for the action of an individual(s).

Posted by irisheyes on Aug. 05 2019,4:42 am

(Grinning_Dragon @ Aug. 04 2019,6:07 pm)

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In that case, then we all can blame a few democrat politicians for the same rise of violence on the left and when illegal aliens kill an American citizen.

The difference is that I can show you video clips of Trump inciting violence at his rallies. "Knock the crap out of 'em" or "haul them out on a stretcher" and offering to pay their legal bills if they got in trouble for these assaults. The "both sides do this" really doesn't hold water in the age of Trump leading the GOP.

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All in all, the blame lies solely on those who perpetuate such acts, they alone decided to act. Quit blaming others for the action of an individual(s).

Just out of curiosity, would you feel the same way if the other person being blamed was a Muslim? Because there's been some serious penalties to certain groups since 9-11 for inciting violence even though they didn't personally carry it out.

Posted by Expatriate on Aug. 05 2019,6:51 am

Posted by pepi-lapew on Aug. 06 2019,9:12 am

This is for all you libatards Who say the 2nd amendment meant musket rifles only Then parts of the 1st amendment Is for Quill pens only. You can not have both ways.

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Aug. 06 2019,11:24 am

(irisheyes @ Aug. 05 2019,4:42 am)

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(Grinning_Dragon @ Aug. 04 2019,6:07 pm)

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In that case, then we all can blame a few democrat politicians for the same rise of violence on the left and when illegal aliens kill an American citizen.

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All in all, the blame lies solely on those who perpetuate such acts, they alone decided to act. Quit blaming others for the action of an individual(s).

Just as there are videos of other politicians spewing their rhetoric.
When one of their base takes upon themselves to act on said rhetoric, blame those who act on it. Blaming a party and the rhetoric being spewed is lazy and can kicking. Everyone needs a boogieman, I get it. Emotionally driven people looking for a source to blame are not thinking logically.

Posted by Expatriate on Aug. 09 2019,6:15 pm

Posted by Self-Banished on Aug. 09 2019,7:35 pm

^^ so I suppose you’re all on board with this “red flag law”?

Posted by Expatriate on Aug. 10 2019,8:17 am

^^ Trump is

Posted by Self-Banished on Aug. 10 2019,9:12 am

^^ probably sandbagging
Constitutional challenges would come quickly under the 2nd and 4th amendments.

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Aug. 13 2019,8:52 am

[quote=Expatriate,Aug. 09 2019,6:15 pm]^^[/quote]
Sigh.
Pics like the one posted is a perfect example of taking the media at it's word without any further research. Since the media loves to push a narrative and in this case an anti 2nd Amendment one; they just love to lie about this one.
The pictograph isn't telling the whole story, and I've repeatedly debunked it over and over on this site.

The obama admin decided to throw in those who receive social security benefits and had help with their finances through a fiduciary or other financial groups as being mentally deficient. Asking for help with finances isn't a mental health issue, even the liberal ACLU was against it.
So again the media is lying.
I shouldn't have to do your homework.

Posted by Expatriate on Aug. 14 2019,7:44 am

^^it's more complicated, first I don't believe anyone who receives SSD because of a mental disorder should have the ability to purchase.
If your mental disorder disqualifies you from work and you receive Social Security Disability payments your impairment should also disqualify you from firearms purchase...

The list of impairments included depression, anxiety, neurocognitive disorders...some of the very things trump says caused these mass shootings

My views are opposed by both the ACLU and the NRA...it seems Trump, I and Obama agree...nuts shouldn't have guns.

Posted by Self-Banished on Aug. 14 2019,9:00 am

^^ so you’ll be turning your Hi Piont over soon, wise choice :thumbsup:

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Aug. 14 2019,10:23 am

(Expatriate @ Aug. 14 2019,7:44 am)

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^^it's a more complicated, first I don't believe anyone who receives SSD because of a mental disorder should have the ability to purchase.
If you're mental disorder disqualifies you from work and you receive Social Security Disability payments your impairment should also disqualify you from firearms purchase...

The list of impairments included depression, anxiety, neurocognitive disorders...some of the very things trump says caused these mass shootings

My views are opposed by both the ACLU and the NRA...it seems Trump, I and Obama agree...nuts shouldn't have guns.

The correct course of action is to have those people adjudicated mentally deficient. To do so without due process is unconstitutional.
Due Process is a must, end of discussion.

Posted by Liberal on Aug. 14 2019,4:35 pm

(Grinning_Dragon @ Aug. 14 2019,10:23 am)

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(Expatriate @ Aug. 14 2019,7:44 am)

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The correct course of action is to have those people adjudicated mentally deficient. To do so without due process is unconstitutional.
Due Process is a must, end of discussion.

Absolutely. I'm no fan of gun nuts but to take people's rights so broadly would be wrong.

Posted by Expatriate on Aug. 15 2019,7:33 am

^^After reading Trump's tweet and his obvious abuse of his new RED FLAG LAW I'm tending to agree with Lib and GD..

QUOTE

Would Chris Cuomo be given a Red Flag for his recent rant? Filthy language and a total loss of control. He shouldn't be allowed to have any weapon. He's nuts!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 13, 2019

< https://reason.com/2019....utburst >

if link doesn't work type Second Amendment @ 404 prompt

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Aug. 15 2019,8:01 am

(Expatriate @ Aug. 15 2019,7:33 am)

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^^After reading Trump's tweet and his obvious abuse of his new RED FLAG LAW I'm tending to agree with Lib and GD..

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< https://reason.com/2019....utburst >

if link doesn't work type Second Amendment @ 404 prompt

Just as you pointed out with Trumps tweet as to why red flag laws shouldn't be allowed to stand anywhere in the US.

I find Chris Cuomo to be douche, but being a douche and getting uppity in a video shouldn't be grounds to deny his 2nd Amendment.
Trump ironically proves as to why red flag laws are ripe for abuse.

Posted by Self-Banished on Aug. 15 2019,12:30 pm

So now we’re back to the gun “buy back” program

< https://www.politico.com/story....1462712 >

Buy back? This would mean the gov owned the guns in the first place. :dunce:

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Aug. 15 2019,2:49 pm

(Self-Banished @ Aug. 15 2019,12:30 pm)

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So now we’re back to the gun “buy back” program

< https://www.politico.com/story....1462712 >

Buy back? This would mean the gov owned the guns in the first place. :dunce:

Unconstitutional idea is still unconstitutional the other issue is the high rate of noncompliance, see NY and other states.

Also, the replies to that fantasy piece is pure gold.

QUOTE

Flyover Philosopher
Mary Djordjevich You are clueless. The AR-15 is the same thing as the M16, except for the firing pin. File that down and you have an assault weapon. The 15 is pretty much useless for hunting and most self-respecting hunters wouldn't use it. And while the Second is important, your understanding of it is weak. Read the Federalist Papers, #29, and you'll know the authors didn't mean it to mean what you think it means.

Flyover Philosopher is a rocket surgeon. What a maroon.

Posted by Liberal on Aug. 16 2019,2:36 pm

I'm good with an assault weapons ban, and a buy back. It's worked well in the past.

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Aug. 16 2019,2:44 pm

(Liberal @ Aug. 16 2019,2:36 pm)

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I'm good with an assault weapons ban, and a buy back. It's worked well in the past.

The 94 AWB? It had little to no effect. Basically it was an abject failure.
The other issue is there is no such firearm classification as an "assault weapon" it's a completely made up word salad.
Really, a buy back? How can the govt buy back something it never owned to begin with? As with any buy back, the only thing getting turned in for cash is junk.

Posted by Self-Banished on Aug. 21 2019,10:19 am

(Liberal @ Aug. 16 2019,2:36 pm)

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I'm good with an assault weapons ban, and a buy back. It's worked well in the past.

Yeah, that ban worked well :sarcasm:

< https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbine_High_School_massacre >

Posted by Self-Banished on Sep. 10 2019,10:11 am

< https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/can-poor-people-be-trusted-with-guns >

Posted by Self-Banished on Sep. 13 2019,5:43 am

Something that always gets overlooked

< https://fee.org/article....e-rates >

Posted by Expatriate on Sep. 13 2019,6:05 am

Posted by Self-Banished on Sep. 13 2019,6:10 am

^^ apparently you’re not paying attention dipshit

< https://www.latimes.com/politic....control >

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Sep. 13 2019,11:13 pm

Who ever put that meme together needs to grow up.
Driving isn't a right.
Beta boy has been going off on confiscating common in use firearms by calling it a mandatory buyback. How can a govt buy back something it never owned in the first place?
If traffic laws kept everyone so safe, there wouldn't be 90 people who die everyday, 3 million per year wouldn't sustain injury and 2 million wouln't have permanent injuries.

The fact is; laws dictate a punishment for a violation. Laws do not and cannot ensure safety. It all boils down to a person being responsible.

Posted by Expatriate on Sep. 14 2019,6:57 am

^^I'm not particularly happy about the current political atmosphere.

My chosen candidate Tulsi Gabbard was eliminated from the debates even though she had more individual contributors than some that were allowed to debate. She was the most google searched from the first two debates but didn't make the DNC's polling criteria.

As to Gun Laws, here in Minnesota if you want to buy a pistol or semiautomatic rifle you need to get permit from the local Police/Sheriffs Dept, as well as pass the NICS FBI background at the time of purchase.

I don't consider this to be a big hassle or unconstitutional. I could agree to this becoming Federal law.

I'm going to have to admit some of these Democrat Candidates have gone crazy on gun issues. Sanders seems to be the most reasonable of those left.

I can't win, the Republican are after my Social Security and Medicare the Democrats want my guns.

If I was trustworthy enough to carry an M-14 an M-16 in the Military I should be trustworthy enough to own the civilian equivalent of those rifles if I want.

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Sep. 14 2019,9:34 am

(Expatriate @ Sep. 14 2019,6:57 am)

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Unless it has changed over the years since I last lived in MN. One only needed a stupid permit when buying a handgun from an FFL. Rifles and shottys didn't require one.

I'm also not a big fan of requiring a person to get a permit to exercise an enumerated negative right, then expected to also undergo an NICS on top of that. NO, just NO.
The 2nd is a right just as the other individual rights laid out in the Bill of Rights.

Requiring a prerequisite to be met before one can exercise any enumerated negative right is treating said right as a privilege, I would also be against such schemes if it was against the 1st Amendment.

There is one I would probably go along with that a buddy of mine thought up. His idea was to use drivers license or govt issued IDs. Tie in a person's background to the drivers license, and when said person was buying a firearm, the FFL dealer would swipe the drivers license and get matched against the same NICS database one uses to fill out now on the 4473.
Since most people get their DLs before the age of 18, the background check could be done at that time and the same thing when renewing ones DL. Over the course of in between renewals background data could be updated to said person's background, just as it is suppose to be when filling out 4473. Now since most states are suppose to comply with that Real ID law, this could work much better than the patch work of crappy schemes at the state level.

As to the current crop of fascists running on the dem side, I would agree Tulsi is the better more reasoned of the gang.

Posted by Expatriate on Sep. 14 2019,1:27 pm

^^They already take the number off your drivers license for the form you fill out for the NICS FBI background.

The police also request a copy of you license when you turn in your paperwork for the permit to purchase or permit to carry.

Yeah they got a little more strict on the purchase of semiautomatic rifles like the AR or AK it's the same permit as a pistol now. it's still good for a year and you can purchase either or both whatever you want for a year. No cost for the permit.
If you go the permit to carry route you can use that to purchase and it's good for five years. But then you have to spend $70 for the class and another $100 when you file your paperwork at the Sheriff's Office.

They also passed some Saturday Night Special Law that bans certain cheap end handguns from sale in Minnesota.

Gabbard was also pushing a ban but on her bill we'd be grandfathered in, some of these other politicians are talking confiscation.

At any rate we've been Lucky in Minnesota we haven't had the rash of mass shootings the rest of the country has had IF these laws in Minnesota help it's not a big price to pay.

Posted by Self-Banished on Sep. 14 2019,8:09 pm

^^ $100 for your permit? My county only charges $50 because our sheriff thought the county was collecting an absorbent amount. It’s wonderful to live in a conservative and well run county :thumbsup:

Posted by Self-Banished on Sep. 14 2019,8:20 pm

Interesting article

< https://medium.com/s....7d10437 >

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Sep. 14 2019,9:00 pm

(Expatriate @ Sep. 14 2019,1:27 pm)

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^^They already take the number off your drivers license for the form you fill out for the NICS FBI background.

The police also request a copy of you license when you turn in your paperwork for the permit to purchase or permit to carry.

Yeah they got a little more strict on the purchase of semiautomatic rifles like the AR or AK it's the same permit as a pistol now. it's still good for a year and you can purchase either or both whatever you want for a year. No cost for the permit.
If you go the permit to carry route you can use that to purchase and it's good for five years. But then you have to spend $70 for the class and another $100 when you file your paperwork at the Sheriff's Office.

They also pasted some Saturday Night Special Law that bans certain cheap end handguns from sale in Minnesota.

Gabbard was also pushing a ban but on her bill we'd be grandfathered in, some of these other politicians are talking confiscation.

At any rate we've been Lucky in Minnesota we haven't had the rash of mass shootings the rest of the country has had IF these laws in Minnesota help it's not a big price to pay.

The idea would do away with bgc all together when purchasing from a FFL dealer, since it's all been done at the back end. Walk in, pick out firearm, FFL dealer swipes the DL at the till, few seconds later info pops up on the screen and displays a "GO" or "NO GO" sale. If a "GO" sale pops up, customer pays, and goes home.

Well that sucks MN went that route. Where I live, I walk into LGS, pick out firearm, do the stupid bgc stuff, pay and walk out.
Hell don't even need a permit to open carry, only need a stupid permit to conceal carry. This is much preferable than what MN does.

Posted by Expatriate on Sep. 15 2019,7:06 am

(Self-Banished @ Sep. 14 2019,8:09 pm)

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I'm not sure on the $100 but that's the maximum they're allowed to charge.

GD quote

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I understand what you're saying about the convenience of using a driver's license as a qualified identification for purchase.
I could see Firearms Purchase as a separate endorsement like CDL or Motorcycle.
I understand we'll soon need a REAL ID-compliant driver's license to travel or fly anyway. The real ID must have some sort of background research capability..

Posted by Self-Banished on Sep. 15 2019,9:28 am

(Expatriate @ Sep. 15 2019,7:06 am)

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I understand we'll soon need a REAL ID-compliant driver's license to travel or fly anyway. The real ID must have some sort of background research capability..

...as big brother grows and grows.

Posted by Self-Banished on Sep. 21 2019,6:31 am

< https://youtu.be/lzeSWnbPOCQ >

Pay attention folks

Posted by Self-Banished on Sep. 26 2019,5:26 am

Now, all the Kernal has to do is tap on the link, he should probably close a dozen barnyard porn site windows first

< https://www.foxnews.com/politic....ons-ban >

Tested for your enjoyment :thumbsup:

Posted by Expatriate on Sep. 26 2019,7:08 am

^^I seriously doubt any buy back will ever take place, it's merely a bargaining chip.

Posted by Self-Banished on Sep. 26 2019,8:05 am

Make no doubt about it, they want our weapons.

Posted by Self-Banished on Oct. 13 2019,8:36 am

And here we go again with this cowardly-sheep-idiot :dunce:

< https://www.albertleatribune.com/2019....n-sales >

Has this moron even read the constitution? Does he just pull statistics out of his ass? He seems to think that the 2nd amendment has something to do with hunting.

< https://youtu.be/Jrlc-ikbYRU >

Posted by Self-Banished on Nov. 01 2019,5:29 am

Here we go

< https://www.nraila.org/article....klahoma >

By all rights, we should not need permission (permit) to carry a firearm to protect ourselves.

Posted by Expatriate on Nov. 01 2019,5:55 am

^^This is the kind of ruling that lets people who shouldn't publicly carry concealed or other wise ruin it for the rest of US..

Any time you pull that pistol out and shoot someone, you can figure on the legal fees and lawsuits bankrupting you and more than likely prison time will be the outcome, even a justified shot is going to cost you $150,000. in legal fees.

Most people in these everybody can carry hillbilly States haven't got squat anyway...so their legal fees become a taxpayer burden..

I think getting a permit, taking the class and test, doing the range test proving you can handle the weapon, you can fire on target and not shoot yourself or a bystander is a good thing.

Posted by Self-Banished on Nov. 01 2019,7:34 am

^^ there’s rather cheap insurance for this situation and if you choose to carry and don’t have insurance then like you, you’re a dumbass. Mine costs me less than $200 a year for me and Mrs. SB. As far as jail time? As the old saying goes “I’d rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6”

Minnesota requires classes and there are a myriad of instructors, from dopes that have no clue but manage to get the certification to what I used, an ex law enforcement guy turned security expert.

What are you talking about, hillbillies? You live in the middle of that land :blush:

Posted by Expatriate on Nov. 01 2019,8:18 am

Insurance may help but still not cover the total cost...not to downplay your suggestion but insurance can vary greatly, you don't know what you have till you use it...

Even the NRAs insurance program is having financial problems..

Not that I'm knocking i t ( ins ) we live in Minnesota, we don't even have a Castle Doctrine

QUOTE

Minnesota isn't a stand your ground state. Rather, it's a duty to retreat state which means that you must back away from confrontation if it's possible. The state doesn't have a castle law per se, but it does recognize the principles of the doctrine because Minnesota law allows you to use deadly force, including shooting an intruder, to prevent a felony from occurring in your home.

Posted by Self-Banished on Nov. 01 2019,9:43 am

^^ an umbrella coverage for 1 to 1.5 million can be had for as little as $25 per month.

Yes, we should have a castle law, also be like Texas, being able to shoot a criminal in the act of committing a felony. :notworthy:

Posted by pepi-lapew on Nov. 02 2019,5:47 pm

know why the 2nd amendment is where it is at. In case congress does away with the 1st. We need a convention of states so we can put in term limits on congress.

Posted by Self-Banished on Nov. 03 2019,8:09 am

^^ Here here :beer:

Posted by Self-Banished on Nov. 15 2019,9:55 pm

< https://youtu.be/JIiFeZ7r6aU >

Posted by Self-Banished on Dec. 03 2019,6:57 pm

< https://youtu.be/8d6uNgmESqk >

Posted by Self-Banished on Dec. 08 2019,7:36 am

Keep your powder dry

< https://wtvr.com/2019....uary-01 >

Posted by Self-Banished on Dec. 09 2019,6:34 pm

< https://youtu.be/HjdAZIGynwM >

Posted by Self-Banished on Dec. 10 2019,5:17 am

A showdown with the Nazis is coming

< https://www.firearmsnews.com/editori....6 >

Posted by Self-Banished on Dec. 14 2019,7:19 am

Seems the Nazis are getting restless

< https://thehill.com/homenew....-may-be >

Posted by Self-Banished on Dec. 18 2019,10:52 am

< https://www.ammoland.com/2019....n-place >

This will start here.

Posted by Self-Banished on Dec. 25 2019,6:59 am

< https://youtu.be/UfFyKalbGYc >

This woman brought tears to my eyes.

Posted by Self-Banished on Dec. 30 2019,12:37 am

< https://www.usacarry.com/texas-c....citizen >

Posted by Self-Banished on Dec. 31 2019,5:06 am

Nice to see the good guys win!

< https://www.albertleatribune.com/2019....service >

Posted by Self-Banished on Jan. 15 2020,5:58 am

Not a bad idea

< https://youtu.be/xY7LjNZzDx4 >

Posted by Self-Banished on Feb. 09 2020,10:34 pm

So he comes out of the closet😡

< https://youtu.be/CbmpCX5qvz4 >

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Feb. 10 2020,9:35 am

Don't know if any of you are aware, but, everytown moron is trying to buy a MN senate.
< Everytown Morons to make $250k ad buy, aim to put Minn. Senate 'on notice' >

Posted by Self-Banished on Feb. 10 2020,10:23 am

Good find GD

I wonder if Everyturd and the Commie Mommy’s realize they could have another Virginia on their hands.

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Feb. 10 2020,10:31 am

(Self-Banished @ Feb. 10 2020,10:23 am)

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Good find GD

I wonder if Everyturd and the Commie Mommy’s realize they could have another Virginia on their hands.

I think that is what bloomturd has in mind, since it is his money everytown moron is spending. If it wasn't for his backing, everytown moron would had folded long ago.
Never trust a midget nazi of the likes of bloomturd

Posted by Self-Banished on Feb. 10 2020,1:21 pm

^^👍

Posted by Self-Banished on Feb. 12 2020,7:49 pm

Here we go

< https://www.newsbreak.site/breakin....-county >

:rockon:

Posted by Self-Banished on Feb. 15 2020,7:54 am

This is the mentality of the modern Nazi, turn your gun in or else.

< https://youtu.be/a76JMYH6KvQ >

Monumental stupidity, monumentally deliberate

This is why the Nazis need to be defeated.

Posted by Self-Banished on Feb. 20 2020,5:04 am

...and an even worse nazi

Posted by Self-Banished on Feb. 22 2020,8:30 pm

Just when you think he couldn’t be any dumber

< https://pjmedia.com/electio....-period >

And the Nazi followers elected him VP :dunce:

Posted by Self-Banished on Feb. 28 2020,6:20 am

With many more counties to come

< http://www.startribune.com/more-mi....7981242 >

Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 19 2020,4:25 pm

Seems the natives are panicked

< https://www.huffpost.com/entry....fcd8ebe >

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 02 2020,5:20 am

Background checks are at record highs, no ammo on shelves and premium prices if you do find it.

< https://www.breitbart.com/politic....systems >

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 10 2020,3:36 am

Ah, the hypocrites :blush:

< https://www.breitbart.com/enterta....defense >

Posted by Expatriate on Apr. 10 2020,8:01 am

BREITBART

CoronavirusDems Block Small Biz $$$W.H.O. Cut OffFake News FrenzyCommunist ChinaVote-by-Mail Scheme

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We’re sorry, we seem to have lost this page,
but we don’t want to lose you.

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 10 2020,9:50 am

^^ they don’t want to lose you? Wandering around the pickle park again? I thought they were closed.

Posted by Expatriate on Apr. 10 2020,10:51 am

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 10 2020,6:44 pm

^^ here some stronger dumbass

< https://youtu.be/Zy8BmJdq_Gg >

Pride cometh before fall🤢

On a Lighter note, I’m at the fortress of solitude this weekend👍
Yes, that’s right Tubby Walz can kiss my ass :finger:

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 14 2020,5:28 am

Seems the sheep have been arming themselves

< https://www.albertleatribune.com/2020....d-virus >

Don’t hurt yourself Kernal :rofl:

them shotguns kick. :rofl:

Posted by Expatriate on Apr. 14 2020,5:56 am

^^yeah, they're going crazy...we've got a few gun shops down here, A&R a local shop has website tied to a major dealer, I looked on there the other day for 9 mm ammo, they had some shot shell left that was it.

I have several military type ammo cans the 50 cal style that I keep in my gun safe, I control the humidity in the safe but I also keep Silica packets in the ammo cans.

I'm terrible at rotation, I've got some thirty year old ammo, looks good, fires fine, most of it is less than year or two old.

I only buy when it's on sale, I doubt we'll see a sale for some time.

two of my main investments are in silver and brass....I also invested in a nice recoil pad for my 12 gauge...but thanks for your concern..

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 14 2020,7:32 am

^^ I guess on some things we’re not too far apart.

If you’re into 9mm try a Ruger PC carbine, decent price (least it was) takes Ruger pistol mags also Glock :rockon:

and is just plain fun to shoot.

Ammo? With me it’s been for many years, buy it cheap, stack it deep.

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 16 2020,6:31 am

Only in a liberal world :dunce:

< https://youtu.be/WX80P9fRdlY >

Posted by Expatriate on Apr. 16 2020,7:57 am

Didn't watch your entire Youtube..so if I have my facts wrong cut me some slack.

Is this from 2017? essentially unarmed teenagers? was there really a need to kill them?

Teenagers are dumb, but a round fired into the floor or ceiling, a warning shot may have been enough.

I keep a loaded revolver in my house, it's in one of those Personal Handgun Safes, it's bolted to my nightstand.

The reason I chose a revolver you can leave those loaded forever, if you choose a semi-auto leaving a fully loaded mag long-term messes with that spring tension and makes the weapon prone to jam.

If a simi-auto is all you have DON'T load the mag to full capacity and leave it longterm, rotating mags and partial loading will make it more reliable.

QUOTE

If you’re into 9mm try a Ruger PC carbine, decent
price

Ruger makes a fine weapon, but tends to over complicate tear-down particularly in the mark series.

I do own one Ruger pistol, you've got to hold your nose just right to get that thing apart.

Looks like your PC carbine has an excess of bits and pieces..

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 16 2020,10:32 am

I used to work with this guy years ago, decent guy, kinda an ass clown though. They never charged him. A single shot 22 for defense? I guess if that’s all you have, that’s what you use.

< https://www.startribune.com/coon-ra....1555931 >

The second subject in that article just goes to prove “do the damned dishes”

The great magazine debate

I’ve personally kept mags loaded for years, never once had a problem. The semi I keep in my personal vehicle is always fulling loaded, every so often I take it out for range day. Mostly it depends on the quality, factory mags usually do better.

Ruger has too many pieces? Not really but then I build guns, playing with 80% receivers now.

Posted by Expatriate on Apr. 16 2020,1:03 pm

^^We're in a gray area here, we've had this discussion before but there's a lot of new gun owners out there now.

First, Minnesota doesn't have a Castle Law, can you shoot someone who breaks into your house ( gray area ) yes and no, said person is committing a crime, is your life in danger, did you dial 911, did you retreat, well maybe, but it's still up to the City or County Attorney depending on where you live if you're charged.

My opinion: dial 911 put that phone on speak so that operator can hear what's happening, warn the intruder you are armed the police are on the way, make sure it's loud enough that 911 dispatcher can hear, she/he is the best witness you can have if this goes to trial.

In Minnesota it's your duty to retreat, fire a warning shot and move back to your next sheltered firing position, Shout commands at the intruder the next shot will count if he approaches, remember that 911 operator is recording this whole episode.

Best outcome here the intruder runs. — Do not shoot him in the back if he's retreating you will go to jail...

If things go south you need a lawyer, lay the gun down, turn on the lights, be polite to the cops when they question you, just tell him your name, it's your home and self-defense it's a burglary and you need a lawyer present before answering anymore questions.

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 16 2020,2:01 pm

And one more thing, prepaid legal.👍

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Apr. 16 2020,2:50 pm

(Expatriate @ Apr. 16 2020,7:57 am)

QUOTE

If you’re into 9mm try a Ruger PC carbine, decent
price

No bueno on warning shots.
On the matter of a warning shot not posing “a substantial risk of injury or death,” in a dynamic, rapidly unfolding, high-stress, deadly-threat situation there is not time to survey the area and wonder, “What is in my immediate area that I can shoot (‘a defined target’ as stated by the consensus policy) which will not cause any injury?”

Recall that the second basic rule of firearms handling is “never point a gun at anything you are unwilling to lose forever” so that eliminates a whole host of environmental targets — actually, that takes away all of them.

So, that gives us the ground and the sky. A shot fired directly into the ground has a high probability of sending bullet fragments in all sorts of directions (including your ankles), and a bullet fired into the air will eventually return to earth, either at terminal velocity or with the refiling spin intact and at a much higher rate of speed.

Warning shots also fly in the face of another basic tenant: You are responsible for every round you shoot.

The only warning shot you should provide is a verbal, "Stop or I will shoot"

As for the 3 teens. They forfeited any notion of right to life by entering an occupied unknown dwelling as well as infringements upon the homeowner.
The homeowner was outnumbered which in of itself is a threat and greater chance of bodily harm. They being teenagers is irrelevant, they chose their course of action of their own free will.

It is also a myth on loaded magazines for an extended period of time. What weakens the spring is the constant compact/expand.

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 16 2020,3:03 pm

^^ well said👍

Posted by Expatriate on Apr. 16 2020,3:58 pm

Holy shit another candidate for the Darwin Award—you kill three unarmed teenagers in Minnesota you'll be the new princess at Stillwater.

I'm sure down in backwoods Louisiana that's how you boys roll, but posting that misinformation on an open forum is dangerous.

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 16 2020,4:04 pm

^^ depends on the county, the sheriff in my county lowered CCW fees because the county was making too much profit. Kinda gives you an idea how we roll here. :rockon:

Posted by Expatriate on Apr. 16 2020,4:08 pm

^^it's not the Sheriff who makes the call, it's the County Attorney, unarmed dead teens make for bad headlines, he's going to put you away to take the heat off himself.

He'll form a grand jury there will be an investigation. Odds are only about 30% of that jury own guns and not all of them are going to okay gunning down unarmed teens.

Grand juries do not need to be unanimous—things don't look good princess...

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Apr. 16 2020,4:40 pm

(Expatriate @ Apr. 16 2020,3:58 pm)

QUOTE

Nothing backwards about castle doctrine. Castle doctrine is in line with the intent and tenets of the 2nd Amendment.
Not my fault MN is backwards in regards to protection of self and property. Then again it isn't surprising seeing as how MN is a nanny state and doesn't trust its citizens to protect themselves and require them to run away. Some freedom you got there.
From my point of view what I posted is all legal in La. and nothing dangerous at all.
An unarmed assailant is still as much as a threat as an armed assailant.

Posted by Expatriate on Apr. 16 2020,6:14 pm

^^Minnesota's laws are a tad more stringent, but if you know them you can carry or defend your home while remaining legal.

On the warning shot you make a valid point, but I don't use 556/223 for home defense. I'd rather shoot a hole in the floor and kill my furnace than some dumb teenager.

Good to see you posting again GD, Louisiana is getting hit hard stay safe.

Posted by Botto 82 on Apr. 17 2020,4:20 am

I was raised to believe that if you break into someone's home, you get what you get, the worst possible case there would be getting dead. It's not my fault that parenting has fallen off to such a ridiculously low level that people now think that there would be some justification for terrorizing someone by showing up unannounced in their space.

We are already down the rabbit hole with regard to being stripped of our First Amendment rights, namely the freedom to assemble. How long before these control freak loons on the Left start working on Second Amendment rights?

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 17 2020,5:55 am

^^ since 1938

< https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Firearms_Act_of_1938 >

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 19 2020,9:38 am

Yeah, gun control works :sarcasm:

< https://www.breitbart.com/politic....-24-hrs >

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 26 2020,8:23 am

When politicians overstep😡

< https://youtu.be/8l_rIiyAcQ4 >

Posted by Self-Banished on May 01 2020,5:24 am

Gropey Joe has plans

< https://news.yahoo.com/joe-biden-plan-shut-down-103009108.html >

Posted by Self-Banished on May 20 2020,7:29 pm

Gee, I wonder why

< https://www.forbes.com/sites....n-sales >

< https://www.ammoland.com/2020....tically >

< https://www.cnn.com/2020....ex.html >

Posted by was1 on May 20 2020,8:14 pm

What’s with the 2 month old links?

Slow news day?

Posted by Self-Banished on May 21 2020,2:44 am

^^ just an observation, gun desks are carrying about 1/4 of their usual inventory, ammo shelves are sparse
As I stated, just an observation

Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 10 2020,4:25 am

< https://youtu.be/DxjnJYH80_g >

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Jun. 10 2020,11:14 am

(Self-Banished @ Jun. 10 2020,4:25 am)

QUOTE

< https://youtu.be/DxjnJYH80_g >

I've always wondered why people seem to think the UN has any authority or any sway here in the US.

The Youtube title is a bit misleading.
The Floyd family is asking the UN to provide recommendations.

QUOTE

George Floyd’s family and his legal team released on Monday a letter they sent to the United Nations requesting recommendations for police reform in the U.S.

The group sent a letter on June 3 to one of the international body’s working groups asking for support for the end of the provision of military equipment and military-type training for police, the teaching of deescalation techniques, independent prosecutions and autopsies for “extrajudicial” police killings, and more.

The UN can recommend all they want, however the US can just give them the finger and nothing can be done about it.
It is the US that is going to have to figure this out as this is our cross to bear. Treaties or agreements with the UN cannot and DO NOT over ride the US Constitution or any of the articles therein.

Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 16 2020,6:42 pm

< https://twitter.com/meganrabundis/status/1272735796949213184?s=20 >

I don’t know if this will work.

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Jun. 17 2020,6:22 pm

(Self-Banished @ Jun. 16 2020,6:42 pm)

QUOTE

< https://twitter.com/meganrabundis/status/1272735796949213184?s=20 >

I don’t know if this will work.

Self defense shooting. The antifa parasite pulled a knife along with threatening to kill the guy in the blue shirt. It was a good shoot.

Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 18 2020,4:55 am

From what I’ve seen so far Atlanta was a good shoot but they’re going to roast that cop.

How long are our cops going to put up with this abuse? Immediate termination, the possibility of lawmakers stripping away their professional immunity? Cops are resigning in droves.

Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 18 2020,5:25 am

And it’s getting interesting

< https://youtu.be/XPcIJepH64o >

Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 30 2020,7:35 pm

Not the best example but they successfully stood their ground

< https://youtu.be/qt8h_OE4Xm4 >

Posted by Self-Banished on Jul. 01 2020,9:43 am

Sounds like calm resolve :rockon:

< https://www.usacarry.com/conceal....ehicles >

Posted by Self-Banished on Jul. 13 2020,1:57 pm

Colt will resume civilian production :rockon:

< https://www.tactical-life.com/news/colt-ar-15-production-civilian/ >

Posted by Self-Banished on Jul. 15 2020,4:37 am

< https://youtu.be/jgXyC6bNMzE >

Posted by Self-Banished on Jul. 20 2020,7:54 pm

An unfair advantage :rofl:

< https://youtu.be/2ohIpprpzxo >

Posted by Self-Banished on Jul. 27 2020,5:54 am

Gotta love Crowder

< https://youtu.be/SqJ_4YhYMhE >

Posted by Expatriate on Jul. 29 2020,5:39 am

...

Posted by Self-Banished on Jul. 29 2020,8:15 am

^^ we agree, the NRA is a bunch of pantywaists
Much like you.

Posted by Self-Banished on Aug. 09 2020,9:29 am

But, the NRA is peanuts compared to the rioting and destruction that’s been happening in that state, yet no one goes after them.

As for the idiots claiming the Nazis don’t want to take away your 2nd amendment rights :blush:

< https://www.breitbart.com/clips....our-gun >

< https://reason.com/2019....endment >

Posted by Self-Banished on Aug. 10 2020,6:00 am

Why Glock is a wise choice :rockon:

< https://youtu.be/bj5Kcs4dzro >

Posted by Self-Banished on Aug. 14 2020,2:07 pm

Yeah!

< https://www.courthousenews.com/califor....ck-down >

Posted by Self-Banished on Aug. 21 2020,5:29 am

Just another reason this retard cannot be elected

< https://www.americas1stfreedom.org/article....oderate >

Posted by Self-Banished on Aug. 25 2020,5:10 am

Go Texas!

< https://youtu.be/QTqeFbUw6Bo >

:rockon:

Posted by Expatriate on Aug. 28 2020,11:58 am

< View on YouTube >

Posted by Self-Banished on Aug. 28 2020,6:37 pm

< https://youtu.be/UikuDUrLGts >

A slippery slope to say the least

< https://youtu.be/lvBI8Zwy0Hs >

Sell mine? You couldn’t afford i

< https://youtu.be/wZ9PTleGm88 >

Really? :dunce:

< https://youtu.be/QR4mNrW0AlE >

< https://youtu.be/VRNTvw9S-KE >

< https://youtu.be/b1jlxlyvQdE >

Posted by Expatriate on Aug. 29 2020,6:41 am

^^more fear and loathing :rofl:

Posted by Self-Banished on Aug. 29 2020,7:01 am

(Expatriate @ Aug. 29 2020,6:41 am)

QUOTE

^^more fear and loathing :rofl:

^^More idiotcy and ignorance :dunce:

Posted by Self-Banished on Sep. 01 2020,5:02 am

< https://youtu.be/qkB8GuYE1w4 >

Posted by Self-Banished on Sep. 16 2020,2:22 pm

< https://youtu.be/_eQLFVpOYm4 >

Posted by Self-Banished on Sep. 28 2020,12:23 pm

Maybe quality control will improve

< https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/remingt....hmaster >

Posted by Self-Banished on Nov. 01 2020,6:02 pm

< https://gunowners.org/na10312020/ >

Posted by Expatriate on Nov. 02 2020,6:02 am

Posted by Self-Banished on Nov. 02 2020,7:48 am

?

Then there’s no hope for you. :dunce:

Posted by Expatriate on Nov. 02 2020,8:08 am

^^Posted in this thread by mistake this morning...moved the post to the proper thread.

I'd go as far as a Minnesota type gun law nation wide but not what you've posted.

Was at Walmart yesterday, they've removed all the weapons, guess they think we're going to riot here in Albert Lea..

like I said didn't vote for Biden , I voted Bye Don....

Posted by Self-Banished on Nov. 02 2020,10:06 am

^^ I’m not voting for Gropey either, too much of a bad influence on idiots like you, look, he caused you to post in the wrong thread, a Gropey moment for you?

Thanks for voting Trump👍

Posted by Self-Banished on Nov. 15 2020,7:30 am

Make no doubt about it, the pedocrats are coming for your firearms

< https://youtu.be/9rJPo8GauK0 >

< https://youtu.be/kS3oI5W-xUo >

Posted by Self-Banished on Nov. 20 2020,4:20 am

Here you go Kernal

< https://www.foxnews.com/politic....control >

Nooooo, they don’t want our guns :sarcasm:

Posted by Self-Banished on Nov. 24 2020,5:39 am

< https://www.foxnews.com/politic....control >

Posted by Expatriate on Nov. 25 2020,6:39 am

^^Ahlman's Black Friday Sale, you can pick up Trump memorabilia Cheap...

< https://ahlmans.com/black-friday-sale.html >

Posted by Self-Banished on Nov. 25 2020,7:42 am

^^ yes, I know, great place, ammo at decent prices :rockon:

Posted by Self-Banished on Nov. 26 2020,5:13 pm

< https://youtu.be/3zPdPIGmMmM >

Posted by Self-Banished on Dec. 23 2020,7:26 pm

I guess the ATF can be stalled :rockon:

< https://youtu.be/aKePUBJtQJU >

< https://youtu.be/JyfuC84ldE0 >

Posted by Self-Banished on Dec. 30 2020,7:47 am

Sorry Timmy,
If it’s time to bury them, it’s time to use them :blush:

Posted by Expatriate on Dec. 30 2020,7:59 am

^^More of this shit...nobody will take your 2nd amendment rights..
there will be some noise about it, but that's as far as it will go.

The sooner you lemming wake up the sooner the ammo shortage and price gouging ends...

There's a 6 to 3 Supreme Court that any challenge to the 2nd has to clear....Calm down, you can play with your AK all you want...

Posted by Self-Banished on Dec. 30 2020,8:08 am

^^ what ammo shortage?🧐

Posted by Self-Banished on Dec. 31 2020,5:50 am

< https://youtu.be/4Caq7oLMYq0 >

And for dipshits like the Kernal

< https://joebiden.com/gunsafety/ >

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Dec. 31 2020,10:23 am

2nd Amendment rights have already been unconstitutionally curtailed and regaled to an un-favored enumerated negative right to that of a privilege.
A 6-3 majority in the SCotUS doesn't mean anything if they keep denying cert on challenges to unconstitutional firearm laws.
With threats of "mandatory buy-backs" (read: confiscation), illegal administrative redefining of what constitutes a "machine gun" the threat to further damage 2nd Amendment rights is very real.

As to the ammo shortage, 7+ million new firearm owners have put a further strain on supply, ammo manufacturers just cannot keep up with demand, and thus the price goes up when ammo becomes available.
The same with powder/primers/bullets. Unprocessed brass is still plentiful.

Posted by Self-Banished on Jan. 11 2021,8:03 am

And so it begins

< https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/127/text >

Hmmm, licensing for a right :dunce:

Posted by Self-Banished on Jan. 12 2021,8:17 am

< https://youtu.be/So0JOLp6gaE >

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Jan. 12 2021,8:49 am

(Self-Banished @ Jan. 11 2021,8:03 am)

QUOTE

And so it begins

< https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/127/text >

Hmmm, licensing for a right :dunce:

Easy, just don't comply with an unconstitutional law if hr 127 were able to make it and become law.
If competency and literacy tests along with a poll tax were found unconstitutional for the positive right to vote, I don't see how this would pass constitutional muster with an even higher bar of a negative right such as the 2nd Amendment, even if intermediate scrutiny were applied hr 127 still fails constitutional muster.

Posted by Self-Banished on Jan. 12 2021,9:12 am

^^>so we’re supposed to trust SCOTUS?🤨

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Jan. 12 2021,10:36 am

(Self-Banished @ Jan. 12 2021,9:12 am)

QUOTE

^^>so we’re supposed to trust SCOTUS?🤨

Point taken.
Then I guess take a page from the leftists, ignore federal law, like they did with pot.

Posted by Let Freedom Ring on Jan. 12 2021,11:01 am

(Grinning_Dragon @ Jan. 12 2021,10:36 am)

QUOTE

(Self-Banished @ Jan. 12 2021,9:12 am)

QUOTE

^^>so we’re supposed to trust SCOTUS?🤨

Point taken.
Then I guess take a page from the leftists, ignore federal law, like they did with pot.

Well the banning of pot just made it the most readily available commodity in the country. A liquor store actually closes part of the day. Pot sales are '24/7' as the kids used to say.

Would imagine a similar fate with guns.

Posted by Self-Banished on Jan. 12 2021,11:46 am

^^ this explains a lot about the AssClown :blush:

Posted by Let Freedom Ring on Jan. 13 2021,9:43 am

Couldn't care less about pot or guns: Find the modern day gun culture thoroughly amusing nonetheless.

Posted by Self-Banished on Jan. 13 2021,9:44 am

^^ probably because you have no nads :blush:

Posted by Self-Banished on Jan. 15 2021,5:23 am

(Let Freedom Ring @ Jan. 13 2021,9:43 am)

QUOTE

Couldn't care less about pot or guns: Find the modern day gun culture thoroughly amusing nonetheless.

Any response Assclown?

< https://youtu.be/Qs1CZjceOBc >

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Jan. 15 2021,7:21 am

(Let Freedom Ring @ Jan. 13 2021,9:43 am)

QUOTE

Couldn't care less about pot or guns: Find the modern day gun culture thoroughly amusing nonetheless.

Interestingly enough "modern day gun culture" is the same culture as it was back in the founding of the United States of America.

Posted by Self-Banished on Jan. 15 2021,7:49 am

^^ freedom never goes out of style.

Posted by Self-Banished on Jan. 25 2021,4:17 pm

< https://www.theblaze.com/news....porters >

Posted by Self-Banished on Jan. 26 2021,6:08 am

...and it continues

< https://www.enblocpress.com/op-ed....t-bites >

Posted by Self-Banished on Jan. 29 2021,4:46 am

Nobody wants to take your guns :sarcasm:

< https://www.congress.gov/bill....=1&r=90 >

< https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/117/hr127 >

At this point it’s more than likely just posturing, the way Gropey’s been going this week? Maybe not.

Posted by Self-Banished on Jan. 30 2021,9:54 am

< https://youtu.be/eRkyWEZygVY >

Posted by Self-Banished on Feb. 02 2021,8:10 am

Posted by Self-Banished on Feb. 05 2021,8:33 am

^^ wow!

< https://alphanewsmn.com/minnesota-gun-sales/ >

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Feb. 05 2021,9:11 am

^ easy enough answer, because it isn't any of the govts business what a person owns let alone owning arms is a negative natural right.
Registration serves only one purpose, a list of arms to confiscate.

Posted by Self-Banished on Feb. 06 2021,1:18 pm

^^ ever notice how much info there is on a modern 4473?

Posted by Self-Banished on Feb. 14 2021,5:40 pm

👍

< https://blog.tenthamendmentcenter.com/2021....ry-bill >

Posted by Self-Banished on Feb. 20 2021,9:28 am

👍👍

< https://en-volve.com/2021....r-biden >

With good cause😁

Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 02 2021,5:37 am

Before Gropey’s out of office, we’ll long for the days of Billy :blush:

< https://youtu.be/4gweLAzHhZY >

Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 04 2021,6:17 am

Mixed feelings about this

< https://www.kare11.com/article....27556b1 >

A lot of these permit classes are a joke but it’s a persons right to defend themselves.

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Mar. 04 2021,8:59 am

(Self-Banished @ Mar. 04 2021,6:17 am)

QUOTE

Mixed feelings about this

< https://www.kare11.com/article....27556b1 >

A lot of these permit classes are a joke but it’s a persons right to defend themselves.

To be honest, not a fan of the whole permit fiasco and asking permission to exercise an enumerated right or treat a negative right as a positive right.

Interestingly enough, police range time/proficiency is almost nil when qualifying and yet require everybody else to jump through hoops just to carry.
The whole thing is a joke.

Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 05 2021,6:02 am

^^ this is why there is partly mixed feelings, I believe there should be constitutional carry, then after seeing some of the idiots at the range, maybe not. :dunno:

Thank God for range officers.

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Mar. 05 2021,8:57 am

(Self-Banished @ Mar. 05 2021,6:02 am)

QUOTE

^^ this is why there is partly mixed feelings, I believe there should be constitutional carry, then after seeing some of the idiots at the range, maybe not. :dunno:

Thank God for range officers.

Here in La. you can open carry all day long, but if you want to conceal you have to get a permit.
I too have seen my fair share of morons at the range and surprisingly enough those idiots tend to be those "professional ones" police and military.
And proficiency-wise from those in law enforcement well, suck, in either stationary or moving targets and that is at 10 to 20 yrds, at long distance shooting, they are even worse.

So when I hear those fateful words "only the police and military should have guns" those people have no clue what they are talking about and should be dismissed entirely.

Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 05 2021,9:03 am

^^ Amen

How’s your ammo situation down there??

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Mar. 05 2021,9:35 am

(Self-Banished @ Mar. 05 2021,9:03 am)

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^^ Amen

How’s your ammo situation down there??

Pretty much nil. Now with the price a bit too high per rd, I don't bother.
I've got plenty reloaded in various shot shell loads, 9mm, .45, 5.56 and .338 lapua. I've got plenty of powder, bullets, brass, however finding a decent deal on primers, pfft, forget about it.

Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 19 2021,6:53 am

Lesson for today

< https://youtu.be/1GNu7ldL1LM >

👍

Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 24 2021,4:30 am

Here we go again

< https://youtu.be/6n59PjWWeDU >

Well, at least they won’t be able to blame it on “whitey” :blush:

Ot seems this nutjut is Syrian and swore alligence to The god of goat humping and pedophilia before going shopping.

< https://nationalfile.com/scoop-c....-loomer >

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 06 2021,5:34 am

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Apr. 06 2021,6:49 am

(Self-Banished @ Mar. 24 2021,4:30 am)

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Here we go again

< https://youtu.be/6n59PjWWeDU >

Well, at least they won’t be able to blame it on “whitey” :blush:

Ot seems this nutjut is Syrian and swore alligence to The god of goat humping and pedophilia before going shopping.

< https://nationalfile.com/scoop-c....-loomer >

To be honest, gun rights groups/firearm manufacturers/NSSF should start suing news orgs/AGs/politicians/anti gun orgs, etc., for defamation in tactically targeted suits, in which will cost them dearly to defend.

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 06 2021,7:36 pm

Iowa??

< https://youtu.be/4XtqugA6iSA >

< https://www.foxnews.com/us....andguns >

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 07 2021,5:48 am

< https://youtu.be/2sgSaxfwweY >

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 12 2021,7:41 pm

Look at this :rockon:

< https://www.americanrifleman.org/article....ing-247 >

Posted by Self-Banished on Feb. 06 2022,6:56 am

As one of the more moronic on this site say, “nobody wants to take your guns” :dunce:

< https://youtu.be/tbxqOlH_aFs >

Posted by Self-Banished on Feb. 10 2022,7:00 am

Here’s the latest attack on our rights

< https://youtu.be/xOehARB6cVg >

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Feb. 10 2022,8:19 am

(Self-Banished @ Feb. 10 2022,7:00 am)

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Here’s the latest attack on our rights

< https://youtu.be/xOehARB6cVg >

Gun control is dead, while this POS bill may pass the house it will die in the senate. Taxing people on background checks is only going to drive up the cost of firearms which will ultimately harm the poorer people, then to add insult to injury and further victim blame, making a person a criminal for their firearm(s) being stolen.

This is just another double taxation scheme and unconstitutional.
The best bet is to repeal the NICS, the whole BGC is unconstitutional.
A right delayed is a right denied.

Posted by Self-Banished on Feb. 10 2022,9:08 am

^^ we must remain ever vigilant.

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Feb. 10 2022,9:48 am

(Self-Banished @ Feb. 10 2022,9:08 am)

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^^ we must remain ever vigilant.

Vigilance also requires money.
I throw cash toward GOA and FPC. FPC has really been successful lately in getting antigun laws struck down around the nation.

Posted by Self-Banished on Feb. 10 2022,5:15 pm

^^ doesn’t Wayne need $$ to pay his transportation coordinator? :blush:

Posted by Self-Banished on Feb. 17 2022,6:18 am

Wow, you leave a weapon in your car? :dunce:

< https://www.albertleatribune.com/2022....reports >

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Feb. 22 2022,3:32 pm

(Self-Banished @ Feb. 17 2022,6:18 am)

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Wow, you leave a weapon in your car? :dunce:

< https://www.albertleatribune.com/2022....reports >

Why blame the vehicle owner, blame the sub human piece of cancer for taking property that isn't theirs.

I see it as no different than some piece of human waste walking into someone's home and stealing stuff that isn't theirs.

Posted by Self-Banished on Feb. 22 2022,9:10 pm

^^ very true but in our current environment of lawlessness and scotumless lawmakers we need to take better care of our property and especially firearms. In a world of growing crime our weapons need to be with us constantly.

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Feb. 22 2022,10:11 pm

(Self-Banished @ Feb. 22 2022,9:10 pm)

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Kinda hard to do so with gun free zones aka legislated victim zones.
Many instances where I've had to disarm and place it in my truck, like schools, post office. etc.
All I'm saying is a guy shouldn't get raked over the coals because they left their firearm in their vehicle.

Posted by Self-Banished on Feb. 23 2022,5:39 am

(Grinning_Dragon @ Feb. 22 2022,10:11 pm)

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Yes, maybe he shouldn’t be chastised, I can see even giving him kudos for having a weapon handy.

As far as gun free zones? What they don’t know won’t hurt them.

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Feb. 23 2022,6:47 am

(Self-Banished @ Feb. 23 2022,5:39 am)

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(Grinning_Dragon @ Feb. 22 2022,10:11 pm)

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Yes, maybe he shouldn’t be chastised, I can see even giving him kudos for having a weapon handy.

As far as gun free zones? What they don’t know won’t hurt them.

Lots of people ignore the no firearm signs posted at businesses since the only thing they can do is ask you to leave and no law is being broken.

Posted by Self-Banished on Feb. 23 2022,10:16 am

(Grinning_Dragon @ Apr. 06 2021,6:49 am)

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I went waaay back for this one

< https://youtu.be/w8re-q94UPA >

Looks like you’ll be getting your wish GD :thumbsup:

I hope he eviserates all involved

Posted by Self-Banished on Feb. 27 2022,6:15 am

Pure justification of our 2nd amendment

< https://www.breitbart.com/politic....itizens >

I wonder if Putin will get a wild hair up his ass and for the same reasons he invaded Ukraine takes a swing at Alaska? He is a madman.

Posted by was1 on Feb. 27 2022,9:01 am

And yet your hero leader praises him as a genius

Posted by Self-Banished on Feb. 27 2022,10:27 am

(was1 @ Feb. 27 2022,9:01 am)

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And yet your hero leader praises him as a genius

Trump called Putin “savvy” it’s not to hard to be savvy when the leader of our country is clueless, not even a nice try to spin this against Trump. I’ll forgive you today, I imagine your head is a bit foggy after drinking last night.

Or, are you just that stupid? :dunce:

Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 21 2022,5:52 am

< https://youtu.be/zen_PdOsmqo >

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Mar. 21 2022,8:26 am

(Self-Banished @ Mar. 21 2022,5:52 am)

QUOTE

< https://youtu.be/zen_PdOsmqo >

TBH, this tactic has been going on for a while.
It's almost as if the BATFe(ARBF) needs a justification in it's illegally created federal position.
Things are going to come to head seeing as how the DOJ and BATFe(ARBF) is stepping way beyond their authority and claiming chevron deference in side stepping congress in crafting law the dept has no power to create.

Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 21 2022,8:39 am

^^ funny how they can just come up with new “interpretations”, I suppose they do and will let the courts sort it out.

Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 22 2022,7:05 am

Indiana

< https://youtu.be/1dKn43tcxRg >

When Minnesota, when? :dunno:

Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 26 2022,6:00 am

Today’s lesson

< https://youtu.be/nD9tNKG2AY0 >

Posted by Brand New Day on Mar. 26 2022,9:28 am

ahh double holster man bra infomercial. . .

yeah that's about as educational as watching some cable shopping channel. hah

Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 26 2022,9:30 am

(Brand New Day @ Mar. 26 2022,9:28 am)

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ahh double holster man bra infomercial. . .

yeah that's about as educational as watching some cable shopping channel. hah

Umm, I’m pretty sure people like you are prohibited by law from owning firearms.

Posted by Brand New Day on Mar. 26 2022,9:37 am

There is no hunting like the hunting of man, and those who have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter.

Ernest Hemingway

Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 26 2022,10:06 am

^^ yep, precludes you from filling out 4473.

Posted by Brand New Day on Mar. 26 2022,10:56 am

(Self-Banished @ Mar. 26 2022,10:06 am)

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^^ yep, precludes you from filling out 4473.

Pancho was a bandit boy
His horse was fast as polished steel
He wore his gun outside his pants
For all the honest world to feel

Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 26 2022,12:55 pm

^^ I keep mine concealed thank you :rockon:

Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 27 2022,9:48 am

Jeez, this girl can shoot😁

< https://youtu.be/w3riJLQegls >

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Mar. 27 2022,11:13 pm

(Brand New Day @ Mar. 26 2022,9:28 am)

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ahh double holster man bra infomercial. . .

yeah that's about as educational as watching some cable shopping channel. hah

Seriously?
Massad Ayoob is highly respected and has taught firearm techniques since 1974 and is respected through out the world.
If that's all you got out of his video that it was a "infomercial" not only were you not on the boat but missed the dock as well.
While I may not care for shoulder harnesses, I found the information quite valuable if I did choose to carry in such a manner.
I myself prefer open carry at the hip or leg holster.

Posted by Brand New Day on Mar. 28 2022,8:09 am

take the real Robert Mitchum. Or even a younger Robert Loggia lol

Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 28 2022,8:31 am

^^

??

Posted by Brand New Day on Mar. 28 2022,9:39 am

should just say guy reminded a bit of Robert Mitchum.

it's nice be be unfettered and not have to carry a gun around.

don't even like to have to carry a phone.

tell you what though. the guy who makes a phone that is also a gun. . .

also:

really don't care for all the attempts to make guns look modern and hip. like some sort of planned obsolescence is weaponry.

and the lady guns. . . don't get that.

guns are so primitive and archaic. .

bring me a fazer iphone gun already!

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Mar. 28 2022,9:50 am

(Brand New Day @ Mar. 28 2022,9:39 am)

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Well a firearm is a tool. It's better to have a firearm on hand than being on the phone with 911.
I've also noticed that people who don't want to take responsibility for their own safety will always denigrate those who do and try to pigeon hole it as 'unhip or uncool' as some sort of moralistic uppity holier than thou attitude.

God may have made man, however Samuel Colt made man equal.

Posted by Brand New Day on Mar. 29 2022,7:59 am

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God may have made man, however Samuel Colt made man equal.

go to the gym lift some weights.

study judo.

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Mar. 29 2022,8:22 am

(Brand New Day @ Mar. 29 2022,7:59 am)

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God may have made man, however Samuel Colt made man equal.

go to the gym lift some weights.

study judo.

Sigh.
That is only a part of being able to defend oneself. Hand to hand isn't the be all end all of techniques.
A smaller person regardless of lifting weights and or studying martial arts is always going to be at a disadvantage in squaring up against a larger person.

Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 29 2022,5:45 pm

(Brand New Day @ Mar. 29 2022,7:59 am)

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God may have made man, however Samuel Colt made man equal.

go to the gym lift some weights.

study judo.

Breathtakingly stupid, how do you get through the day without swallowing your own tongue?

< https://youtu.be/puXz94xDL4o >

Will judo stop a 9mm?

Posted by Brand New Day on Mar. 30 2022,6:27 am

(Self-Banished @ Mar. 29 2022,5:45 pm)

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(Brand New Day @ Mar. 29 2022,7:59 am)

QUOTE

God may have made man, however Samuel Colt made man equal.

go to the gym lift some weights.

study judo.

Breathtakingly stupid, how do you get through the day without swallowing your own tongue?

< https://youtu.be/puXz94xDL4o >

Will judo stop a 9mm?

just because you can't do it. you have to deflect. . to some You Tube huckster evangelist.

Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 30 2022,6:42 am

^^ no really, it’s breathtakingly stupid, your remarks🤡

YouTube huckster evangelist? More advocate for the second .

I notice you didn’t answer my question

6:27 am? Parole officer today?

Posted by Brand New Day on Mar. 30 2022,7:24 am

(Self-Banished @ Mar. 30 2022,6:42 am)

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^^ no really, it’s breathtakingly stupid, your remarks🤡

YouTube huckster evangelist? More advocate for the second .

I notice you didn’t answer my question

6:27 am? Parole officer today?

I will stand by:

A persons brain is their most powerful weapon

and you can have:

guns will save the world

Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 30 2022,7:29 am

(Brand New Day @ Mar. 30 2022,7:24 am)

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A persons brain is their most powerful weapon

So, you’re unarmed.

This is perculating in Minnesota gov now

< https://youtu.be/k_Xd5l_DfCQ >

Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 30 2022,5:48 pm

For your consideration regarding the governor’s race.

< https://gunowners.mn/electio....sements >

Posted by Brand New Day on Mar. 31 2022,7:27 am

(Self-Banished @ Mar. 30 2022,7:29 am)

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(Brand New Day @ Mar. 30 2022,7:24 am)

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A persons brain is their most powerful weapon

So, you’re unarmed.

This is perculating in Minnesota gov now

< https://youtu.be/k_Xd5l_DfCQ >

no that's why you need a gun.

so do you have pay these middle men and the NRA both?

did you get loss of gun anxiety and go out and stock up on as much ammo as you could find after you read this?

1) the entirety of that 'proposal' seems extreme and over the top.

2) does it have a chance of being passed?

3) even if it doesn't pass, and it won't, Marty gets to look good as a hard on guns guy. And people that need to look very pro gun will look good as well. call that the pro wrestling aspect of politics.

it's like on FOX NEWS when they bring up Bernie Sanders proposals and get the viewers in a tizzy. it's not like those things are going to get anywhere.

Waltz didn't even want to reconvene the legislature back a few months, because he didn't want more of his appointees picked off.

so again don't see that guys radical legislation going anywhere.

Posted by Brand New Day on Mar. 31 2022,7:40 am

(Self-Banished @ Mar. 30 2022,5:48 pm)

QUOTE

For your consideration regarding the governor’s race.

< https://gunowners.mn/electio....sements >

little surprised that Waltz would have issues with gun control.

wasn't he down in Albert lea for the pheasant opener?

1) just like Marty he can purport a position on things all day long, doesn't mean they're going anywhere

2) who are these middleman wanna be NRA people anyway? just what the world needs more consultants.

maybe that why Waltz isn't responding because: he's probably had to kowtow to the NRA his entire life as a politician and doesn't feel like giving the 500 member You Tubers more status then they deserve.

3) bet Cabellas and all the other outdoors related commerce in the state doesn't like Marty's proposal. hah

** politics ick , politicians ick

Posted by Brand New Day on Mar. 31 2022,7:48 am

gotta admit though: having a license of some sort, replete with a skills requirement would be nice. so when people want to whip out the guns in population dense areas, the shooters can just shoot each other and not everything but that. hah

also think all these people who want to run out and get conceal permits. it's good for the folks who make money off of them, that's about it.

Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 31 2022,8:12 am

(Brand New Day @ Mar. 31 2022,7:40 am)

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little surprised that Waltz would have issues with gun control.

wasn't he down in Albert lea for the pheasant opener?

You’re one of those people that think the 2nd amendment is about hunting? I suppose you are, seems most idle minded twits (Gropey Joe) think that

Here, let’s refresh that close-minded thinking of yours, you’ll notice there’s a comma in there, realize it dipshit.

“A well regulated militia(well regulated meaning prepared and supplied) being necessary for the security of a free state (here it comes now, the “kicker”), (note the comma) the right of the people to keep and bear arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.

It’s morons such as yourself that are are intellectually lazy or misguided (I’m thinking a bit of both in your case) as to the 2nd.

Posted by Brand New Day on Mar. 31 2022,11:27 am

QUOTE

Here, let’s refresh that close-minded thinking of yours, you’ll notice there’s a comma in there, realize it dipshit.

hmmmm. . alllllllrrrrrriiiiiiiiggggghhhhhtttty then :crazy:

way to completely blow out of proportion the comment. then proceed to make up some completely false fairy-tale narrative.

that's proceed, not precede.

realize it :dunce:

Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 31 2022,6:58 pm

Proceed not procede?

Well then tell me, oh clown of the ass, just how do you interpret the 2nd amendment?

Posted by Brand New Day on Apr. 01 2022,7:23 am

(Self-Banished @ Mar. 31 2022,6:58 pm)

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Proceed not procede?

Well then tell me, oh clown of the ass, just how do you interpret the 2nd amendment?

think it's interesting how you deride my hunting comment.

yet somehow stylish coutre like gun accoutrements are so much more on point and representative of accurate Constitutional interpretation.

seems like from what you've been showing us here: the victim role has been adopted by the so called Constitutional defenders as well.

also was seeing the claim that your real or imagined and made up persecutors employ some type of 'virtue' signaling. real popular term on the internet.

but from personal observation. reading the online arguing over quite a long. from several different online venues: see similar signaling from punky gun proponents as well.

you like to bait people who don't like guns. apparently it is part of being in the punky gun advocate club. and again, more often than not it is predicated on being persecuted.

easy to follow example might be Ted Nugent. when you hear him talk he always seems to tell us how people don't like what he does. he's persecuted.

would say that to a degree this entire thread is a form of both things: the baiting and the being the victim.

point of all this is:

think it's easy to latch on to the cliff notes version of The United States Magna Carta (Constitution), specifically the Second Amendment, and sell snake oil in front of it.

got nothing against guns. have had people from outside the United States tell me we need to get rid of our guns. told them. . no we don't. . then direct them to The United States Constitution.

couldn't care less if victimized ol' Ted Nugget hunts. he needs to come to Southern South Central Minnesota and clear out some of the deer. carcasses every hundred feet on the interstates.

so signal away. tell us all about your SIG Sauer , quote Ayn Rand, doesn't bother me.

good luck!

Posted by Brand New Day on Apr. 01 2022,7:29 am

BTW the way -

this whole thing started because you had to come over an attack me on my tree grafting thread.

so felt obliged to come over here and reciprocate.

otherwise wouldn't have typed a word about your double holster man bra advocacy.

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 01 2022,8:52 am

^^ so, we get ramble bullshit and no answer, once again, the AssClown speaks :dunce:

Posted by was1 on Apr. 01 2022,10:44 am

always such childish replies by SB. usually with a meme of insult. so adult. so important sounding.

and to call someone else on a no answer. that's got to be your April fools day joke.

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 01 2022,4:04 pm

^^ do they have April fools in AssClown work?

Posted by was1 on Apr. 01 2022,4:10 pm

Something you’ve never learned

People can disagree about a lot of things but they can still be reasonable and decent

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 01 2022,5:48 pm

^^ depends on your definition of reasonable and decent.

Posted by was1 on Apr. 01 2022,7:47 pm

Reasonable and decent does not include name calling, obscenities, and insults.

Over the many years you’ve proven that those are your only methods of communication

Sad is the man so full of anger and hate that he has become blind by it and can no longer recognize it within himself

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 02 2022,3:44 am

^^ so are you going to comment on the second amendment or whine like a little bitch?

Posted by Brand New Day on Apr. 02 2022,6:14 am

^^

huh. . wow

you really do have homosexual tendencies latent or otherwise.

guess that's a step up for you . . .

and all the barnyard animals emit a sigh of relief in this knowledge.

it kind of explains a great deal of your behaviors here. . . as well.

Posted by was1 on Apr. 02 2022,6:24 am

And can do nothing but try to insult, name call and use obscenities.

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 02 2022,6:30 am

(Brand New Day @ Apr. 02 2022,6:14 am)

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Wow, again no useful input in to the actual thread

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 02 2022,6:36 am

< https://youtu.be/1E_nYKJ7V8s >

Posted by Brand New Day on Apr. 02 2022,6:50 am

(Self-Banished @ Apr. 02 2022,6:30 am)

QUOTE

(Brand New Day @ Apr. 02 2022,6:14 am)

QUOTE

Wow, again no useful input in to the actual thread

yeah all your tired repetitious use of picture memes add so much. .

barnyard banger boi

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 02 2022,7:50 am

^^ when I get time today I acquire some more, just for you

Posted by Brand New Day on Apr. 02 2022,9:17 am

^^oh that's just your road costume?

you have the whole collection at home?

ok

duly noted

Posted by Brand New Day on Apr. 02 2022,10:31 am

you're not Gacy-like are you?

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 02 2022,11:50 am

^^ I was just thinking the same of you, you are extremely creepy

Posted by was1 on Apr. 02 2022,12:44 pm

Wow. Again, no useful input for any part of humanity

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 02 2022,1:48 pm

^^ wow, your last six posts are just bitching about me, no input into any of the threads , are you going through menstration Karen?🤣🤨

WHAT DOES KAREN MEAN?

Karen is a pejorative slang term for an obnoxious, angry, entitled, and often racist middle-aged white woman who uses her privilege to get her way or police other people’s behaviors.

As featured in memes, Karen is generally stereotyped as having a blonde bob haircut, asking to speak to retail and restaurant managers to voice complaints or make demands, and being an anti-vaxx , Generation X soccer mom.

In 2020, Karen spread as a label used to call out white women who were captured in viral videos engaging in what are widely seen as racist acts.

Posted by was1 on Apr. 02 2022,3:16 pm

And 9 of your last 10 in this thread is noting but you trying to make yourself feel better by thinking your insulting others

You really need to find something good in your life and try to spread some kindness. It will make you feel better on the inside

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 02 2022,5:44 pm

^^ there’s 7

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 02 2022,6:13 pm

Contributing Assclown

< https://youtu.be/-Mm7LL3uZx0 >

Posted by Brand New Day on Apr. 02 2022,6:42 pm

There's some militia weaponry for you there. .

WW2 Weapons Used in Ukraine War

< https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDd8NFftuXI >

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 02 2022,7:10 pm

^^ yes, I’ve shot many of these myself, SVT40, Tokerev, PPSh. The US used the 1911 45 till the mid 80’s and beyond, some special units still carry them. Another great example of the M14, still in use today.

Posted by was1 on Apr. 03 2022,8:04 am

If someone feels the need to own a gun then they should be able to own a gun as long as they follow the rules, don’t have a violent history, are mentally stable and take and pass safety classes.

There should be a country wide data base that all sellers can use to verify the buyer is eligible to purchase the gun (background check, completion of classes, etc.)

All in all this shouldn’t be as big of an arguing point in America that it has become. The groups who only want to divide us are the ones pushing both extremes.

Stop the nonsense. No rational person or anyone who can truly make the decision is “coming for your guns”. And again no rational person or anyone who can truly make the decision is calling for any person to get any type of weaponry they want.

Sadly far too many people allow themselves to get tricked into believing the extreme narrative on both sides for near every topic is what the majority want and are going to get

Unless us rational majority stop playing their game of divide and conquer and stop believing and spreading their lies we all have lost

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Apr. 03 2022,8:25 am

(was1 @ Apr. 03 2022,8:04 am)

QUOTE

So.. In order to exercise a negative enumerated right a person should take and pass a test? I don't think negative rights work that way and would make it a privilege.

A database, you mean the NICS that the FBI uses when a person buys a firearm from an FFL? Hmm, I think there was this unconstitutional law passed back in the 90's called the brady bill. Imagine a process in which turns due process on it's head and compels a person to testify against the themselves just to exercise an enumerated right.

Well considering there have been politicians and candidates that have espoused a desire to "come for the guns" but you are right they aren't rational.

The only side that is irrational in this whole issue are the anti gun quacks and their quack factory organizations. If you wanna see unhinged look no further than karens demand action, everyclown, brady bunch anti gun orgs.

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 03 2022,8:33 am

(Grinning_Dragon @ Apr. 03 2022,8:25 am)

QUOTE

(was1 @ Apr. 03 2022,8:04 am)

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Good post GD, yes it seems someone hasn’t done a lick of research, all the Karen would have to research is form 4473.

It’s terrible when knee jerk Assclowns spew misinformation.

Posted by was1 on Apr. 03 2022,10:33 am

Well as should be obvious from my post I’m not a gun owner. I don’t hunt and I’m not scared of society nor that the “big bad government” is going to oppress me, even though it has to many people throughout its short history, but that’s a whole different topic.

Read the about the form SB mentioned. Thanks for pointing that out. (See that’s how a discussion and sharing of ideas/beliefs should work on this site)

With guns do you really believe anyone, no matter their situation, should be allowed to own one (or many)? Do you believe there should be no age limit? Should people who have documented sever mental health issues have guns? Should violent criminals? There are a lot of things that should be thought of as common sense with this but far too many just want to shout “my rights”

Same ones shouting that also want to ignore other rights in the Bill of Rights when they don’t fit their view point (freedom of press, freedom of religion, freedom to assemble, other “persona freedoms” like the right to chose, all get lost in the arguments)

There are also politicians who believe
- Israel causes our forest fires with lasers
- the Republican Party leaders have coke fueled sex parties
- we should be on Putins side
- you can’t decide your sexuality until you are 21
The list of dumb things individual politicians is endless

Sad that GD only sees this as one way, his. No middle ground. No exceptions.

Is there really no need for any regulation at all regarding this right?

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 03 2022,11:58 am

(was1 @ Apr. 03 2022,10:33 am)

QUOTE

Hey, if you don’t want to own a gun that’s ok, just don’t bitch about others exercise their RIGHT. and this the very essence of our right, that of self protection. Crime is rampant now in the bigger cities but it’s moving to the suburbs and rural. Who the f”ck are you to say I can’t defend myself?

I can just about guess what you’ll blabber next, the cops will protect you. It seems that the cops are being phased out by the left, Minneapolis has violence intervention teams, how dumb is that?

< https://www2.minneapolismn.gov/governm....iatives >

The cops response time now is abysmal

< https://www.startribune.com/respons....6758713 >

This most likely since their numbers have reduced from an authorized 800+ to around 280, north side average strength from 4pm to 4am is about 7-8 cops now. ( this I know because I work in North Minneapolis and talk to cops now and then about breakins.

And this all comes from pedocratic leadership

The 4473 form I mentioned? Meant for pantywaists like you so you feel better, total obstructions of rights. Who gets to decide who is allowed to own a gun and who is not.
Hopefully, not assclowns like the poster I quote.

Israel causes forest fires with lasers? :crazy:

Posted by was1 on Apr. 03 2022,12:13 pm

Where did I compline about it??
Where did I say you could defend yourself?

Much of the violence and other police calls comes about due to mental health issues. Communities should be ADDING resources to help the police respond and deal with such situations. NOT taking money away from, or reducing the number of, police officers.

Rising response times are inexcusable and as your article shows, sadly has been going on for years.

So again, there should be no requirements at all to owning a gun? Do you honestly believe that? That there at a minimum shouldn’t be a training requirement? Do you really want to be out and about with unstable and in trained people with guns?

And yes there are current sitting member in the US congress who have said our wild fires are caused by Israel shooting space lasers at us.

Why is it so difficult for you to have a conversation sans insults and name calling. And out right lying about someone posted even when you quote the post?

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 03 2022,12:30 pm

(was1 @ Apr. 03 2022,12:13 pm)

QUOTE

When did you say I could defend myself? Aren’t you king shit? :dunce:

Do I really want to be out and about with unstable nut jobs with guns? I AM NOW, that’s why I carry.

Posted by was1 on Apr. 03 2022,12:53 pm

Where did I say you couldn’t? Unless you have a violent history and/or are mentally unstable.

So you need a gun to feel safe out and about because “nut jobs” have guns and are out and about? Hummm. So maybe something shooing be done so “nut jobs” don’t have guns

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 03 2022,12:53 pm

On the other elements of this thread

< https://youtu.be/fm02rF19Fng >

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Apr. 03 2022,12:54 pm

(was1 @ Apr. 03 2022,10:33 am)

QUOTE

Christ on a noodle pogo stick, you are just all over the place complete with red herrings and strawman arguments.

The sole purpose of a negative right is the exercise thereof without infringement as these rights are natural rights as in they have existed well before established govts and the rule of man.
The Bill of Rights is a mixture of negative and positive rights, the first two are obviously negative rights which is why their importance was deliberately placed first.

Q: Do I think that anyone should be (your word) "allowed" no matter their situation to own one or many?
A: Yes. The 2nd Amendment clearly enumerates "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed" Firearms falls under the descriptor of arms. Being "allowed" is an infringement as it dictates that one must need permission to exercise a right that is by default a natural right. Gun control laws are based on the premise of being "allowed" and targeted towards minority groups and people of lesser means. Gun control laws by their very nature are racist and classicist.
Think for a moment and determine, would you apply the same unconstitutional firearm laws that infringe upon the 2nd Amendment and apply those to any of the 1st Amendment enumerations?

Q: Do I believe there should be no age limit?
A: No there shouldn't be an age limit, age does not necessarily indicate wisdom or logical thinking. A natural right is bestowed the moment they are born. It is through up bringing and instruction that hones a person's responsibility in exercising their rights.

Q: Should people who have documented severe mental health issues have guns?
A: Depends, not all mental health issues are a danger to themselves or others, why would you deny a person's right to own a tool that would aid in their defense. So called "mental health" people have been targets of attacks because people suck and think emotionally instead of logically.
If someone is a danger to themselves and or others then it is up to the courts to adjudicate said person as a prohibited person. One size fits all laws are not the answer in regards to "mental health" issues.

Q: Should violent criminals?
A: If a criminal is so violent then why release that person from prison?
The fact of the matter is that a person no matter their past still has the right to self defense and that also includes access to the same very tools available in modern society. Sure the courts can adjudicate a person as prohibited to buy, possess or have access to firearms which said rulings are backed by legislative passed laws, but in all reality they are just words on paper as time and time again has been shown releasing violent criminals back into society have detrimental effects as they slip back into their old norms and no gun control law is going to stop that. Full stop.

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 03 2022,12:57 pm

^^ Christ on a noodle pogo stick, where’d that come from? :rofl:

Posted by was1 on Apr. 03 2022,1:22 pm

GD - thanks for the actual responses.

Don’t think I was all over as I was following along and responding to SB post.

We will have to agree to disagree. The world has changed greatly in the last 230 years. With that change comes potential need to reevaluate things. Based on your answers you have no problem with say a 6 year old having a handgun.

I also agree that not all mental health is the same

We all know our criminal justice system is broken and people get out of jail when they shouldn’t. And a criminal will get a gun regardless of any laws that are passed. Is a possible hinderance to their obtaining guns some type of gun control/registry system? Again, not trying to take peoples gun or rights away but people with guns have taken a lot of people rights away from them

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Apr. 03 2022,2:47 pm

(was1 @ Apr. 03 2022,1:22 pm)

QUOTE

While the world has changed, the hearts and minds of man have not. This applies not only to the individual but to govt as well..
Natural rights are timeless they apply the same today. Self defense is a natural right, access to tools that aid in self defense is a given and understood as part of that natural right.

I don't have a problem with a 6yr old having a handgun/pistol/side arm/rifle/shotgun. A 6yr old can be just as competent in being safe and in firing a firearm as an adult, it boils down to education/instruction/training and recognizing the maturity level of each child and adjusting from there. There are youth 3 gun competitions and many of them start very young.

Gun control and or registries don't work and can never provide a level of safety. Registered firearms can NEVER prevent their misuse, the sole purpose of a registry is about eventual confiscation, period.
Gun control hinders the majority of the people who go about their day and puts up road blocks to access tools they need to defend themselves. Criminals get their firearms via theft, very seldom is it due to straw-purchasing or private sales.
The problem isn't the right itself or the access to firearms, the problem lays at the feet of our elected officials going the lazy route instead of doing the hard long road of dealing with crime. Limiting rights only hurts the public and emboldens the criminal.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

Posted by was1 on Apr. 03 2022,3:21 pm

Comes down to training and responsibilities. But if there is no requirement for either than we have what we have now, untrained people with deadly weapons.

100% agree on crime and not dealing with it

We need more judges to get crimes prosecuted and tried much more quickly.
And sadly we probably need more jails so criminals are not released early because they need their spot for someone new

Biggest problem is our elected “leaders” are too busy name calling and stopping anything the “other side” proposes, no matter what it is. It’s not about doing what is right and best for the good of all it’s all about “me” and “my funders”.

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Apr. 03 2022,3:47 pm

(was1 @ Apr. 03 2022,3:21 pm)

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You keep getting hung up on "untrained people with deadly weapons."
A firearm isn't all that difficult to use, its a pretty basic point and click type apparatus. Any person with a modicum level of intelligence can operate a firearm pretty proficiently in a short amount of time.
Do I think people should get additional firearm training? Absolutely, but at their insistence and not at the insistence of govt. I'd even be in favor of a tax-credit type system for additional firearm training. Even better would be to introduce firearm training into the school system, as a student advances through the grades the firearm training become more in-depth.

We spend all kinds of time and resources in training students; to cook, drive, practice safe sex, etc., and yet firearm education/training is verboten, especially in a country founded on the use of firearms and enshrined as an enumerated negative right, it really makes no sense and it is illogical to not train students on firearm safety, maintenance and laws.
However it is ultimately for the previous generation to train/educate the younger generation in the use of firearms and I think that it is what is sorely missing today, families not taking the time to educate their children and leaving it up to some person and institution to do all of that.

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Apr. 03 2022,4:24 pm

Remember the next time you hear a study on "firearms" touted on the evening news it's most likely junk science. Something I've known for a long time and now seems lefty anti gun RAND corp is backing up the junk science claim, which surprised me.
< Junk Science: RAND Finds only 123 of 27,900 Gun Control Studies Meet Rigorous Scientific Standards >

QUOTE

There has been a massive research effort going back decades to determine whether gun control measures work. A 2020 analysis by the RAND Corporation, a nonprofit research organization, parsed the results of 27,900 research publications on the effectiveness of gun control laws. From this vast body of work, the RAND authors found only 123 studies, or 0.4 percent, that tested the effects rigorously. Some of the other 27,777 studies may have been useful for non-empirical discussions, but many others were deeply flawed.

We took a look at the significance of the 123 rigorous empirical studies and what they actually say about the efficacy of gun control laws.

The answer: nothing. The 123 studies that met RAND’s criteria may have been the best of the 27,900 that were analyzed, but they still had serious statistical defects, such as a lack of controls, too many parameters or hypotheses for the data, undisclosed data, erroneous data, misspecified models, and other problems.

…Tellingly, the studies that have gotten the most media or legislative attention aren’t among the 123 that met RAND’s approval. The best studies made claims that were too mild, tenuous, and qualified to satisfy partisans and sensationalist media outlets. It was the worst studies, with the most outrageous claims, that made headlines.

Posted by was1 on Apr. 04 2022,1:20 pm

agree not difficult to use, although I dont have a gun, I have shot them. I guess, more along the lines of safe use and how to use under stress/pressure. I know a few people how are conceal/carry and even with the trainings and such they have had, I would not trust them to properly and accurately use it in a situation where they felt threatened. Not sure how you could ever train someone how to properly and accurately use say when they are being attacked/assaulted.

And we could have a very long thread about what the schools should be teaching and how it should happen. I agree gun safety would be a good topic. There are many that would be very good but our entire education system has turned into a "teach to the standardized test" because that is what the school districts and teachers are judged off of. One good thing that I have seen coming from the COVID school from home is that most colleges/universities have done away with the ACT/SAT test scoring being a part of the acceptance process. I dont believe in standardized testing, but i do understand the need to somehow judge not only the students level of learning but also the teacher/school systems ability to teach it. but, like I said, all for a different thread.

as far as studies, in our current day and age of 24 hour news, social media, etc. far too many "studies" are pushed out far before they have been reviewed by peers in the field. It's been going on for way too long and has been a part of the whole "don't trust the system" movement. news sources and such need to stop worrying about being first and worry more about being accurate and neutral.

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Apr. 04 2022,6:35 pm

(was1 @ Apr. 04 2022,1:20 pm)

QUOTE

I'll let you in on a little clue, even the most well trained will mess up under pressure, it's human nature. On average the everyday people of the gun have more trigger time than that of police and to make matters even better usually score higher percentage wise in shots on target than police, whereas for police a hit rate of 70% is required to be considered passing, while in the same vein lots of states require a hit rate above 80% in order to pass conceal carry requirements.
In engagements, concealed/open carry people have better restraint than police, whereas police will automatically go to gun then sort it out later.

The idea that there are professional people out there operating at a John Wick level is a fantasy.

I feel your fear/apprehension of the average Joe and Jane carrier is misplaced and quite hesitant to have a bit of faith in your fellow countryman.

Posted by was1 on Apr. 04 2022,7:05 pm

I am saddened to learn from you that police require a lower hit rate. That is something that should be changed

Completely agree in the police being much quicker to draw their weapon. My assumption there is that they are trained to do so. However that can elevate the “suspect” which just leads to more problems, in my opinion. Better deescalation training is needed

If all the people who I know who conceal carry had the knowledge and experience I believe you have based on this I would be much more trusting of them all. I’m not saying I don’t trust or have faith in my fellow countryman, just some.

I do think having nation wide discussions like this, based on facts and real experiences, without the “feelings” and emotions would go a long way in taming the hysteria around “gun control” and would maybe call people and start to bridge some of the divide not only on this issue but others as well

Thanks again for the levelheaded comments and factual information.

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 05 2022,5:47 am

^^ Cops go to their gun more because they wanna come home at the end of their shift, they have a lower “hit” rate because they are typical human beings, lazy, lack of practice, I’ve shot with a lot of cops over the years, most of them, well, they get most of their shots on the paper. :blush:

Your “lack of trust”? First of all, your neighbor is not there for your protection, second, it’s none of your business if they are carrying or not, if you feel unsafe you should probably carry yourself.

I agree, “without emotions or feelings” read the 2nd amendment again, think about it, then read it again, it’s pretty straightforward and absolute, the right of the people to keep and bear arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.

Posted by Brand New Day on Apr. 05 2022,7:53 am

QUOTE

First of all, your neighbor is not there for your protection,

oh darn. was counting on you to save us all with your little sidearm one man militia. :sarcasm:

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 05 2022,8:30 am

^^ your super judo will save you :rofl:

Posted by Brand New Day on Apr. 06 2022,7:33 am

anybody watch that Ramsey County Sheriff's You Tube Channel?

was watching it this past summer.

amazing some of the stuff they deal with .

they came on the scene of a high end stolen Mercedes that had just crashed. and the perps were yelling at the cops. like the cops were in the wrong.

then some goofy stander by lady started yelling at 'em too . . .

heard on the radio the other day a lot of Twin Cities police are filing for PTS claims? or something

can see why hah

what does that have to do with guns?

well police shootings was mentioned

Posted by Brand New Day on Apr. 06 2022,7:35 am

there are definitely bigger societal issues at play with some of these gun 'problems'

Posted by Brand New Day on Apr. 10 2022,8:17 am

ahhh springtime in the Twin Shitties

5 people injured, 1 killed in 4 separate shootings in Minneapolis
MPR News Staff and The Associated Press
April 3, 2022 2:11 PM

< https://www.mprnews.org/story....eapolis >

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 10 2022,10:26 am

^^ yeah, the downturn bar district gets hopped around closing time. A safe bet is that none of those shooters have a permit and more than likely a stolen gun. Diminished police presence and piss poor leadership have its consequences.

Carry every day. :thumbsup:

Posted by Brand New Day on Apr. 10 2022,12:36 pm

Yeah looks like record breaking homicide numbers. . .in that crap hole metropolis. . . but seems like unless it involves a lawsuit against the city/police department there isn't a whole lot of outrage or concern?

if your Glock doesn't get 'em your Tahoe will. .

don't know if the guy is high, metal health issue, death by cop desire? wow

kind of piece meal edited version of the body cam cams.-
Gunman vs. Police Tahoe
< https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kpL6-l4S5k >

watched this quite a bit while back -

Description
Ramsey County Sheriff Bob Fletcher takes you "Live on Patrol" through the streets of Ramsey County (Minnesota) - home of the Capitol City Saint Paul. Like he says, "You never know what's around the corner." His goal is to help inform and educate the public regarding the job of law enforcement in hopes of building community trust and relationships through transparency. All videos originate live. Most "Live on Patrol" ride-alongs begin at 9:11 pm CDT on Fridays. Questions can be sent to questions@liveonpatrol.org

< https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkHBaplUW2OH3_jqltpOK8g/about >

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 10 2022,6:19 pm

Minneapolis, dominated by democrat politicians, safer than 2% of US cities

< https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/mn/minneapolis/crime >

Posted by Brand New Day on Apr. 11 2022,7:33 am

^^the guy riding shotgun, on the Live on Patrol channel, said he wasn't very optimistic about what the summer holds in store.

as far as those club shootings go: make everybody go through a metal detector. wouldn't solve it completely sure but: you have to go through one to get your license tabs at the Freeborn County courthouse hah.

131 guns in 20 million person population. hah yeah better get Congress right on that. always wanted a ghost car. maybe that will soon be possible. they're already made of plastic.

also the hoopla they're conjuring up will increase the desire for ghost guns of course.

NY officials trying to tackle ghost guns issue
< https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUdQas3hjj8 >

Posted by was1 on Apr. 11 2022,5:29 pm

It’s a good thing that crime and shootings never happen in a “red” state or a city with a R mayor. Amazing how it’s only in cities run by dems. A shooting would never happen in a good red R run community where people can carry guns snd not even need to go through the hassle of getting a permit. And if something unfortunately were to happen all those good gun carrying people would stop it. (Yes sarcasm)

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Apr. 11 2022,7:38 pm

(Brand New Day @ Apr. 11 2022,7:33 am)

QUOTE

"Ghost gun" is such a stupid moniker for what it really is, homebuilt.
Homebuilt firearms were a thing before the founding of this country and it is nothing that is new or a recent phenomenon. All of this hoopla over something such as this only further points to the fact of ever encroaching govt overreach and desire to control what a citizen does, rights be damned.

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Apr. 11 2022,7:46 pm

(was1 @ Apr. 11 2022,5:29 pm)

QUOTE

Good thing that isn't what was said. However the larger democrat run cities have consistently had higher crime rates than the national average.

The other issue is even self defensive shootings that end up in the death of the attacker gets placed into a generic homicide category. So when it gets reported that homicides have increased X% from the previous year just be aware that it also includes self defensive shootings.

Posted by was1 on Apr. 11 2022,8:58 pm

GD - I was referring to the horrible event in Cedar Rapids and sarcastically pointing out how idiotic it is to try and paint a picture that it only happens in D “run” locations

Evil is everywhere. Trying to “one side” it only strengthens it

Posted by Brand New Day on Apr. 12 2022,5:51 am

he left his car full of guns unlocked with the keys in it? maybe put your bag of guns in the trunk? you have a responsibility to not make your guns easily ripped off too. imo

Suspects shot by owner of car they attempted to steal at NW Harris Co. gas station, sheriff says
< https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6O2qwqdBdE >

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Apr. 12 2022,6:12 am

(Brand New Day @ Apr. 12 2022,5:51 am)

QUOTE

Why should one have to hide something, isn't this victim blaming?
Gets kinda old in how it is the owners responsibility to make sure theft doesn't occur and then when a theft does occur even after an owner takes measures it still isn't enough and still gets blamed.
How about people shouldn't take things that aren't theirs.

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 12 2022,6:14 am

Breaking news from Gropey Joe

< https://youtu.be/M0HmloH57zw >

So he’s searching for something to take away attention from the crap economy?

< https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/inflation-cpi >

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Apr. 12 2022,6:26 am

(Self-Banished @ Apr. 12 2022,6:14 am)

QUOTE

FPC, GOA, 2ndAF and a few other groups have already filed challenges to this new rule as the BATFe(ARBF) lacks the authority to change a legislatively passed defined set of firearm definitions of what is or is not a receiver, an 80% is definitely NOT a firearm receiver, nor is it "readily" convertible into a receiver.

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 12 2022,6:30 am

^^ yep, should get slapped down fairly quick.

Posted by Brand New Day on Apr. 12 2022,6:40 am

well doesn't look like you save any money with a kit gun. . .

losing interest fast after that. . . hah

like putting things together though. big Eli Whitney fan as well. . .

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Apr. 12 2022,6:40 am

(Self-Banished @ Apr. 12 2022,6:30 am)

QUOTE

^^ yep, should get slapped down fairly quick.

What is interesting, the BATFe(ARBF) actually put a defined set of hours in what they considered "readily" convertible for these 80% blocks of metal at 8hrs. How did they determine 8hrs? Well on average, a person who has the tools and fairly handy takes them 8hrs to complete just the finishing of the 80% to 100%, that doesn't include adding the fire control, safety, etc.

So in other words, we taxpayers paid for a BATFe(ARBF) lackey to finish most likely multiple 80% hunks of metal.

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Apr. 12 2022,6:46 am

(Brand New Day @ Apr. 12 2022,6:40 am)

QUOTE

well doesn't look like you save any money with a kit gun. . .

losing interest fast after that. . . hah

like putting things together though. big Eli Whitney fan as well. . .

If anything you'll save about a couple hundred bucks, which you can then spend on ammo. HA
Just like kit cars, its for the hobbyist who likes to hand build something or perhaps people like me who did it just so they can say I built one.

I guess if you liked putting together models you'd like to put one of these together.

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 13 2022,6:44 pm

< https://youtu.be/yRuVzhod--s >

Posted by Brand New Day on Apr. 14 2022,6:56 am

(Self-Banished @ Apr. 13 2022,6:44 pm)

QUOTE

< https://youtu.be/yRuVzhod--s >

hey everybody click om this lame You Tube snake oil salesman channel.

yeeeeeaaaaahhhhhh think gonna pass on that.

you already messed up my algorithm there so get all kinds of FOX news and other junk political stuff.

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 14 2022,9:52 am

^^ HEY EVERYONE, Look at the AssClown, spewing bullshit wherever he goes :rofl:

Posted by Brand New Day on Apr. 14 2022,10:03 am

^^
based on most of your links. . .

you don't seem to even know what BS is

Self Anus

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 14 2022,10:24 am

^^ due to your lack of knowledge I’d say you’ve got a pretty good handle on spewing bullshit, AssClown :rofl:

Posted by Brand New Day on Apr. 15 2022,6:35 am

well Russ. .. nature abhors a vacuum

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Apr. 15 2022,7:01 am

(Brand New Day @ Apr. 14 2022,6:56 am)

QUOTE

(Self-Banished @ Apr. 13 2022,6:44 pm)

QUOTE

< https://youtu.be/yRuVzhod--s >

How do you know if that particular fellow is a "snake oil" salesman if you didn't bother to watch?
You would have heard this fellow correct the lil girl hair sniffin', pedo of a president, who continually lies about canons not being bought or owned when the 2nd Amendment was ratified.

Posted by Brand New Day on Apr. 15 2022,7:29 am

(Grinning_Dragon @ Apr. 15 2022,7:01 am)

QUOTE

(Brand New Day @ Apr. 14 2022,6:56 am)

QUOTE

(Self-Banished @ Apr. 13 2022,6:44 pm)

QUOTE

< https://youtu.be/yRuVzhod--s >

don't know if can really explain it to people who don't see it.

people watched Jimmy Bakker on TV and sent him money.

guess if you feel that it is something that you get something from. . .

not going to argue that the quick fix have to say something to the public in regard to shootings that politicians partake in isn't greatly flawed. to put it mildly.

just don't see You Tube content providers as being much help. . .

it's like 24 hour news you are beholden to having to put out news and fill space and attract viewers. (content providers have to fill their space as well)

guess we all know where that got us.

now we just have shit news period.

just my take on it anyway.

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Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 15 2022,9:26 am

^^ so we begrudge a guy for making a buck? :dunce:

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 16 2022,7:30 am

👍

< https://youtu.be/iJzaBHEzLzs >

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 17 2022,7:28 am

< https://youtu.be/iJzaBHEzLzs >

Posted by Brand New Day on Apr. 17 2022,7:48 am

yeah we already ignored that the first time you threw it up there

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 17 2022,7:55 am

^^ a new one every Friday, you should watch, you might learn something other than being a total assclown.

Posted by Brand New Day on Apr. 17 2022,9:36 am

--------------

well you know. . . . take a little bit of info from everyone here.

learn a little bit from everybody

yah

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 17 2022,11:58 am

^^you do know they’ve been putting fentanyl in pot lately.

Posted by Liberal on Apr. 18 2022,7:33 am

Good thing there's legal states where the government regulates it.

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 18 2022,7:53 am

^^ fentanyl or pot

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 18 2022,9:09 am

And it even comes in ODgreen :rockon:

< https://www.classicfirearms.com/xproduc....d-green >

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 19 2022,5:47 am

Saw this

< https://gunivore.com/pistol/top-handguns-popular-with-women/ >

‘ thought of the Kernal.

Posted by Brand New Day on Apr. 19 2022,4:32 pm

shooting clays is fun. saw this a while back wonder how it works -

QUOTE

Good Shot Golf and Sporting Clays is at 124 Arrowhead Drive in Emmons, and is open from 1 to 6 p.m. Wednesdays and Thursdays, from 1 to five 5 p.m. Fridays and from 9 a.m. to 1 p.m. Saturdays. For more information on events and pricing, look for the Facebook page Good Shot Golf and Sporting Clays.

Posted by Liberal on Apr. 20 2022,11:51 am

Another reason we need the 2nd amendment is as a deterrent to stuff like this. I'm sure plenty of people on trails in Mn are carrying a weapon, I had even considered getting bear spray for animals like the cobra chicken, and beaver at the state park.

< https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea....302.php >

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 21 2022,4:43 am

^^spray? While I do carry it I also believe in a bit stronger response.

Posted by Expatriate on Apr. 21 2022,4:58 am

(Self-Banished @ Apr. 19 2022,5:47 am)

QUOTE

Saw this

< https://gunivore.com/pistol/top-handguns-popular-with-women/ >

‘ thought of the Kernal.

I wouldn't mind owning that CZ..

actually have a Ruger..nice pocket pistol..

didn't see your Lady Smith on the list, lol

The important thing to remember if you're carrying

Every bullet comes attached to a lawyer, Right or wrong you'll be involved in a spendy lawsuit....You shoot someone they survive they'll sue, they die the familiy will sue..that's just Civil Court if you're charged as the aggressor and have to go to Criminal Court you risk your freedom as well as your wealth!

There's always an ambulance chaser waiting to fill his pockets!

Posted by Liberal on Apr. 21 2022,5:41 am

Bear spray is probably a better option when you're on a bike in a state park. With my luck even if I was able to hit a charging beaver the state would probably charge me for hunting without a license.

Posted by Expatriate on Apr. 21 2022,5:58 am

(Liberal @ Apr. 21 2022,5:41 am)

QUOTE

Bear spray is probably a better option when you're on a bike in a state park.

The biggest threat at the State Park is that last hill before it turns to gravel...

Going into the valley I try to build speed to help propel me into the hill, it's still a peddle to make to the top..

One day as I was speeding into the valley on that curve the Park Ranger was on the trail in a pickup truck, almost made me a hood ornament..

Posted by Liberal on Apr. 21 2022,8:31 am

It's nice this time of year because I can see through the trees and safely do 30mph.

Don't underestimate the geese, raccoon, and beavers. Especially beavers. Check out all the youtube videos of beaver attacks like this one.

< https://youtu.be/LPL5zB6qm_0 >

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 21 2022,8:32 am

^^ heaven forbid!

Posted by Expatriate on Apr. 21 2022,9:51 am

Beavers are nocturnal, distemper or rabies maybe...

I once rode with a with a family of wild turkeys, must have been a dozen of them..They just ran in front of me for the longest time, they can move fast when they want.

Posted by Brand New Day on Apr. 21 2022,9:59 am

^^
with the fur all slicked back it looked a little like an armadillo

yeah being attacked by a beaver is pretty rare to non-existent isn't it?. . that's probably a hoax.

there's a guy on You Tube that takes down their dams to open up waterways. culverts stuff like that. they get pretty mad at him. hah

from time to time see a field off I35 just a little south of Trails full of wild turkeys

they sure seem to be thriving in the area

saw something back a few years that said all 50 states have wild turkey now

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 21 2022,12:57 pm

< https://youtu.be/jh1GXnzENKE >

Posted by Expatriate on Apr. 21 2022,1:52 pm

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 21 2022,2:37 pm

^^ can’t be too bad a day if I get the Kernal to laugh👍

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 25 2022,5:45 am

< https://youtu.be/5R-EIQPiitc >

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 27 2022,7:05 pm

Sing along everybody!

< https://youtu.be/ACWjCmR_Z2k >

Posted by Self-Banished on May 11 2022,7:17 pm

👍

< https://youtu.be/6mIBpbaIiws >

Posted by Self-Banished on May 12 2022,8:23 am

Sniffy?

< https://youtu.be/ijkVQM7X8Gw >

Posted by Self-Banished on May 12 2022,12:52 pm

👍

< https://youtu.be/vBwh_NMic0M >

Posted by Self-Banished on May 28 2022,4:58 pm

< https://fxn.ws/3t2pxgg....CEsRMvE >

Posted by Brand New Day on May 29 2022,10:56 am

^ ^

self serving YOU TUBE CHANNEL clown

guess if you can't formulate your own opinion

you can let him tell you what yours is

don't forget to send money

and buy the merch

Posted by Self-Banished on May 29 2022,12:24 pm

^^ Gerbil boy! You’re back! Off spending quality time with Kraken?

Posted by Self-Banished on May 29 2022,2:12 pm

🤣

< https://youtu.be/plYx1EOR1W0 >

Posted by Self-Banished on May 30 2022,9:14 am

Those energy drinks are not good for you

< https://youtu.be/42LoqCY0Lfs >

Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 01 2022,6:09 am

I don’t really give a shit about Canada but...

< https://youtu.be/ZnQU5xJYNBg >

Gropey Joe has ideas too (leastwise his handlers do)

< https://youtu.be/xICPWCLZEY4 >

Posted by Brand New Day on Jun. 02 2022,7:46 am

QUOTE

"Stop throwing the Constitution in my face," Bush screamed back. "It's just a goddamned piece of paper!"

guess maybe he was right after all -

How the NRA Rewrote the Second Amendment
< https://www.politico.com/magazin....-106856 >

Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 02 2022,7:49 am

^^ so deluded, so misguided, so full of shit.

Save room for Kraken gerbil boy.

Posted by Brand New Day on Jun. 03 2022,7:55 am

^ ^

oh yeah forgot you don't how to read

sorry

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Jun. 03 2022,8:26 am

(Brand New Day @ Jun. 02 2022,7:46 am)

QUOTE

"Stop throwing the Constitution in my face," Bush screamed back. "It's just a goddamned piece of paper!"

guess maybe he was right after all -

How the NRA Rewrote the Second Amendment
< https://www.politico.com/magazin....-106856 >

Yeah that article is full of BS and completely ignores the history of the 2nd Amendment from realization to draft to ratification.

The supreme court has consistently upheld the right to keep and bear arms as an individual right, it wasn't until the US v. Miller where a remark was made that a sawed off shotgun wasn't part of a militia's set of tools and therefore could be regulated. McReynolds was under heavy pressure from the fdr admin to keep the nfa, after lower courts struck down the nfa as being unconstitutional. So McReynolds and the rest of the court tried to walk a fine line in upholding the right of the individual and keeping the administrative state happy. Due to this ruling is where anti gun forces latched on to the collective theory of the 2nd Amendment being connected to a militia.

In 2008 Scalia who wrote the majority of the decision references the US v. Miller ruling and points this fallacy out that has been allowed to run rampant. Then in 2010 again it was pointed out that the right referenced in the 2nd Amendment refers to the individual as it does in the other enumerated rights contained in the Bill of Rights in the MacDonald case.

If Jack Miller hadn't unexpectedly died before the case went before the supreme court and then of course the lawyer representing Miller didn't bother any further, it was basically the govt arguing against itself before the court. If Miller had lived the nfa would have most likely been struck down as unconstitutional.

Posted by Expatriate on Jun. 03 2022,12:10 pm

< View on YouTube >

Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 03 2022,7:17 pm

^^ is this one of those “pretend” military types like you Kernal?

Posted by Expatriate on Jun. 03 2022,7:38 pm

^^^

Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 03 2022,7:59 pm

^^ are you making it with Assclown now?

Posted by Expatriate on Jun. 03 2022,10:26 pm

^^ listen dipshit, you're in the cyber world now...

and you idgit are as dysfunctional here as you are in the real world...

If you think duckduckgo is protecting your apple ass think again...

I hear worms like apples...

Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 04 2022,7:13 am

Ooooh, cyber world :dunce:

Posted by Brand New Day on Jun. 04 2022,7:30 am

(Grinning_Dragon @ Jun. 03 2022,8:26 am)

QUOTE

(Brand New Day @ Jun. 02 2022,7:46 am)

QUOTE

"Stop throwing the Constitution in my face," Bush screamed back. "It's just a goddamned piece of paper!"

guess maybe he was right after all -

How the NRA Rewrote the Second Amendment
< https://www.politico.com/magazin....-106856 >

thought it was a good read. .

the hijacking of the NRA

the misuse of out-of-context quotes adopted by the NRA

little bit of history on the use of guns in general in the country

see how REAGAN and SCALIA usher in the ERA of politicians dancing like trained monkeys to the beat of the NRA. . and over the top gun advocacy

it showed me why you place SCALIA as some kind of smartest SUPREME COURT JUDGE of all time

of all the JUSTICES that ever 'stood' on the hallowed court.. . only he could FINALLY clarify the ancient lexicon of the powdered wig donning authors. . :rofl:

SUPREME indeed :laugh:

but really what that article ultimately says is:

is that it was a long war of attrition to shape public opinion

and that's kind of how everything is isn't it?

all your suffragettes, equality battles. . . all were fought over time to achieve their success

the author goes on to say that people fighting their own modern-day go against 'today's grain' battles. . . are studying how the NRA battle was fought so they can get similar results

public opinion is really what shapes society isn't it?

look at gay clergy in churches

that doctrine was chiseled in stone

and much more ancient that your precious MAGNA CARTA only written on mere PARCHMENT

and not nearly as ancient. . .

Posted by Expatriate on Jun. 04 2022,7:39 am

@ Tator...

Posted by Brand New Day on Jun. 04 2022,7:49 am

(Expatriate @ Jun. 03 2022,12:10 pm)

QUOTE

< View on YouTube >

bean a while since watched any multi-installment YOU CHUBE offering

but that was really good one. . guy is imparting some wisdom

not sure how he is going to get anyone to capitulate on all their unwavering steadfast stances on guns

but you get to the last part of that 3rd segment and he is honing in on where attention needs to be focused imo

but wow. . what a gargantuan task

guess the board BEASTIALITY expert:

ANUS T GERBIL

doesn't want anyone to watch it. . since he went into hyper derail everything mode after you posted it

he just posts the YOU TUBE channels that profit from weaponizing the arguments and keeping them going

nothing solution oriented

Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 04 2022,8:13 am

^^ you’re starting to sound like Assclown, maybe you two will get together and “share a gerbil”?

Posted by Brand New Day on Jun. 04 2022,8:32 am

(Self-Banished @ Jun. 04 2022,8:13 am)

QUOTE

^^ you’re starting to sound like Assclown, maybe you two will get together and “share a gerbil”?

you are a gerbil ANUS T

Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 04 2022,9:00 am

^^ snappy comeback🤣

Meanwhile

< http://heyjackass.com/?fbclid....=e&s=cl >

Posted by Brand New Day on Jun. 04 2022,9:37 am

yeah it's out of control everywhere

TWIN SHITTIES is ridiculous as well. . .

its really a mixed bag in some respects

like the IOWA church incident the other day and the hospital shooting, etc

but in others. . .

where are the protests over this crap?

cause it is BS of the highest order imo

Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 04 2022,9:39 am

^^More guns, less crime

I imagine that’s difficult for you to understand

Posted by Brand New Day on Jun. 04 2022,9:46 am

(Self-Banished @ Jun. 04 2022,9:39 am)

QUOTE

^^More guns, less crime

I imagine that’s difficult for you to understand

UNITED SATES WAS IN AFGHANISTAN for 20 years with guns

how did that work out again?

Posted by Brand New Day on Jun. 04 2022,9:50 am

right now we're in another seeming QUAGMIRE

POOTIN is getting extended seaport access

oil is way up in price

he couldn't ask for a better outcome could he?

trashing the whole world

RUSSIA apparently is used to it so

heck of a lot of guns involved there

that should have solved that by your logic

Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 04 2022,12:37 pm

(Brand New Day @ Jun. 04 2022,9:46 am)

QUOTE

(Self-Banished @ Jun. 04 2022,9:39 am)

QUOTE

^^More guns, less crime

I imagine that’s difficult for you to understand

UNITED SATES WAS IN AFGHANISTAN for 20 years with guns

how did that work out again?

...with Gropey Joe abandoning US citizens and Afghanistan assets

< https://americanmilitarynews.com/2022....t-shows >

Along with...

< https://www.forbes.com/sites....anistan >

That’s how Afghanistan worked out :oops:

Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 04 2022,12:42 pm

(Brand New Day @ Jun. 04 2022,9:50 am)

QUOTE

All because Gropey Joe is a weak, compromised, supposed leader. Our economy is now threatened and going south.

We’re you drinking excessively last night? Is Kraken OK? I’d hate to see PETA pay you a visit

Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 04 2022,1:11 pm

The Ohio Gov gets it

< https://governor.ohio.gov/media....6022022 >

Armed school personnel 👍

Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 04 2022,3:36 pm

Well, at least the pedocrat is honest about his opinion of the constitution

< https://youtu.be/AEHRV8PPNNA >

Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 05 2022,6:55 am

Looks like Taurus is upping their game

< https://youtu.be/n-8hAQGKVas >

Used to be Taurus was so-so quality, this might deserve a look🧐

Only a six shot though

Posted by Brand New Day on Jun. 05 2022,7:02 am

(Self-Banished @ Jun. 04 2022,3:36 pm)

QUOTE

Well, at least the pedocrat is honest about his opinion of the constitution

< https://youtu.be/AEHRV8PPNNA >

couple of clowns you and your YOUTUBE buddy

1) there is no mass disarmament to remove 'all' guns

2) you support factions that wanted to take over the UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT

so don't tell me how much you care about the other sacred institutions

you're basically a disinformation anti UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT agent

guess you will have to finally join the military that you always rail against here

if you want to keep your gun in that AUTHORITARIAN FASCIST DONNIE T government

hah

^%$#@!! stooge!

Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 05 2022,7:16 am

^^ do you kiss Kracken with that mouth?

Gropey Joe’s technical expertise

< https://youtu.be/fcezRHThFzQ >

You seem really agitated this morning, maybe if you put some cheese down your pants he’ll come back out🧐

Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 05 2022,8:41 am

Spicy Friday 👍

< https://youtu.be/gcAXwk8q5FM >

Posted by Brand New Day on Jun. 05 2022,10:55 am

ANUS T GERBIL and SPICY FRUITFLAKES

2 complete clowns :laugh:

Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 05 2022,2:45 pm

(Brand New Day @ Jun. 05 2022,10:55 am)

QUOTE

ANUS T GERBIL and SPICY FRUITFLAKES

2 complete clowns :laugh:

Did Kraken come back out or is he exploring the “upper regions?

Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 07 2022,7:19 pm

< https://youtu.be/I59yjzZShVw >

Posted by Brand New Day on Jun. 09 2022,7:47 am

^ ^ what would you do if it was your hometown?

post some stupid YOU TUBE video like that one?

Matthew McConaughey for president!

find the middle ground where most of us live

but doesn't sell ADS for YOU TUBERS and SKY NEWS
< https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJOw0XUyTQs >

Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 09 2022,7:51 am

Good morning Gerbil boy

< https://youtu.be/whWAkww3rFU >

Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 09 2022,9:10 am

👍

Posted by Brand New Day on Jun. 09 2022,3:06 pm

^ ^ another worthless picture meme

(Self-Banished @ Jun. 09 2022,7:51 am)

QUOTE

Good morning Gerbil boy

< https://youtu.be/whWAkww3rFU >

that's rich. . some phony BS YOU TUBER is going to tell us about somebody else being phony

4 minutes in and all we see is his ADVERTISING

^%$#@! both of you turds

NEXT!

Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 09 2022,3:09 pm

^^ begrudging someone making a living?

I imagine you might be jealous

From what I’ve seen around the cities, putting “god bless” on that cardboard you carry might increase your take.

Posted by Brand New Day on Jun. 09 2022,4:36 pm

^ ^

whatever floats your boat there twinkle-toes

Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 09 2022,5:21 pm

^^ projecting again :blush:

Posted by Brand New Day on Jun. 10 2022,7:51 am

(Self-Banished @ Jun. 09 2022,5:21 pm)

QUOTE

^^ projecting again :blush:

16,694 posts. . .

wonder how many of those are you discussing some kind of deviant sexual behavior

14,000? :dunno:

anyway. .

thought it was refreshing to hear anybody talk about the middle ground

and where MOST people reside with viewpoints

everybody screaming about TAKING THE COUNTRY

what about the middle? when can they have their country back? :dunno:

the chaos just facilitates the false left–right paradigm imo

and obfuscates

< https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ur0g-R7ZODY >

Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 10 2022,8:27 am

^^ I don’t know, why don’t you go back and count each on?

It would give you someone to do while Kraken is “percolating”

Posted by Expatriate on Jun. 10 2022,3:06 pm

Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 11 2022,4:45 am

^^ the response I’ve come to expect from a Canadian transplant 💩

Posted by was1 on Jun. 11 2022,7:31 am

Sure hope that 10 year old out east gets off. All she was doing was protecting her mom from an argument. Kind of the castle law. If a 10 year old doesn’t have the right to take her parents gun and kill someone they fell is a threat then all of society is doomed

Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 11 2022,7:37 am

^^wtf?

Till we figure out what Assclown is posting

Posted by was1 on Jun. 11 2022,7:55 am

Keep up with the news slappy

< 10 year old murders woman with moms gun >

Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 11 2022,8:04 am

^^ try posting links the first time Assclown 🤡🤡

Looked at it, don’t mess with mom.

Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 11 2022,1:08 pm

< https://youtu.be/8AH7pUGsHAY >

< https://youtu.be/diX8AQkl-tM >

Twofers :cool:

Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 12 2022,10:25 am

😲

Posted by was1 on Jun. 12 2022,11:36 am

So, instead of doing any fact checking you just run with what you saw on Facebook

Yes the pertinent facts were correct - gunman killed by women with pistol

Yet wrong date given and false accusation that it wasn’t in the media

< ABC >

< CBS >

And this was during the Texas killing of 19 kids on their school so not as news worthy

Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 12 2022,2:58 pm

^^ of course it isn’t as newsworthy, it was a good person with a gun killing a bad guy, always happens, pushed to the back page so to speak.

Keep trying Assclown :dunce:

Posted by was1 on Jun. 12 2022,3:35 pm

Let’s see

Proved your Facebook post had misinfo in it
And only in your sick mind should that have been a bigger story than 19 children being massacred to such an extent they had to be IDed by their clothes and DNA

There really is no point in continuing any discussion with you

Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 12 2022,3:56 pm

^^ how was i disproved? It was a successful self defense.
I guess though, there are far more times guns are used to save lives and the Texas thing was a spectacular event with thousands needing to feel outraged.

< https://www.gunowners.org/sk0802htm/ >

< https://concealednation.org/2016....ch-year >

< https://gunsafetytrainingpro.com/lives-saved-every-year-by-guns/ >

< https://www.forbes.com/sites....e-lives >

Posted by was1 on Jun. 12 2022,6:21 pm

Post had wrong date of incident and said no “liberal” media covered it. Both incorrect

And yes. 19 children getting their faces blown apart to the point they needed to be IDed by their clothes or DNA is a MUCH bigger story

Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 12 2022,9:58 pm

^^ yes, if the press deems it so. There are many tragic stories in the naked city, just look to Chicago every weekend.

Looks to be congress is coming up with the latest “feel good” legislation, no assault weapons ban, no magazine ban. At worst it’ll be an age limit and from the sounds of it even that is watered down. Also, a red flag law, confiscation without due process. Both will most likely be struck down by our current scotus.

Posted by was1 on Jun. 13 2022,5:38 am

Way too weak and for show

You better check out with red state Florida has been doing with their red flag law

Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 13 2022,6:25 am

^^ so you agree with a right (property) being taken without due process, cops show up, weapons consfiscated, just by some accusation, i see.

And you get pissed when I refer to you as Assclown.

Posted by was1 on Jun. 13 2022,7:27 am

Did I say I agree?

I simply directed you to check out how many weapons Florida and taken under their red flag law

It’s funny how the same ones who claim my rights and such when it comes to the second amendment don’t say the same about other rights

Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 13 2022,9:59 am

^^ pretty much, if it’s in the constitution, it’s a right I agree with.

Let me guess, you think abortion on demand is a right :blush:

Posted by was1 on Jun. 13 2022,1:50 pm

You didn’t answer my question but what else is new

As far as abortion - being male I stay out of it. That’s something between a woman, her doctors and her god.

Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 13 2022,4:44 pm

(was1 @ Jun. 13 2022,1:50 pm)

QUOTE

As far as abortion - being male I stay out of it. That’s something between a woman, her doctors and her god.

And the child??

Posted by was1 on Jun. 13 2022,5:39 pm

Don’t think that is part of this topic

Try to stick to the topic

Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 13 2022,6:37 pm

(was1 @ Jun. 13 2022,5:39 pm)

QUOTE

Don’t think

First intelligent thing from you ever :beer:

Posted by was1 on Jun. 13 2022,7:52 pm

Your insults and name calling don’t bother me

They just show your low level IQ as well as your low level of self worth.

Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 14 2022,4:29 am

(was1 @ Jun. 13 2022,7:52 pm)

QUOTE

Your insults and name calling don’t bother me

This is good, shows you’re growing a skin :thumbsup:

Try working on balls now :oops:

Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 15 2022,5:16 am

😁😁😁

< https://youtu.be/rHVnns6qnPc >

Posted by Expatriate on Jun. 16 2022,4:54 am

...

Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 16 2022,5:52 am

^^ giving up your Hi Point any time soon? :rofl:

Posted by Expatriate on Jun. 18 2022,4:37 am

Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 18 2022,6:46 am

< https://youtu.be/buKq-86ZOv4 >

Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 18 2022,9:50 am

< https://youtu.be/m_tDveEK45c >

Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 19 2022,6:19 am

Happy birthday Ferderal!

< https://www.ssusa.org/content....veaways >

< https://www.federalpremium.com/this-is-federal/a-century-of-authority/ >

Quite a party from what I understand, private party for the employees with Ted Nugent playing.

Posted by Self-Banished on Jul. 03 2022,9:31 am

That’s was quite a ruling for scotus last week

< https://youtu.be/9bmhkoTl34Q >

New York is already trying to fck with it

9 out of 10 for scotus last week :rockon:

Posted by Self-Banished on Jul. 03 2022,4:28 pm

< https://rumble.com/embed/vt1u2c/?pub=ahms5 >

Posted by Self-Banished on Jul. 07 2022,5:18 pm

< https://youtu.be/URI7NKQdbK0 >

Posted by Self-Banished on Jul. 23 2022,2:29 pm

< https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/117/hr8399 >

Posted by Liberal on Jul. 24 2022,12:24 am

Madison Cawthorn? You have to be trolling, if you're not, seek help.

Posted by Self-Banished on Jul. 24 2022,3:44 am

^^ your house still smells like shit, I guess I’d be grumpy too.

Posted by Brand New Day on Jul. 24 2022,9:21 am

^ ^

more dur dur dur

from the resident gerbil

Posted by Self-Banished on Jul. 24 2022,9:38 am

^^ more gerbil love from Gerbilboy :rofl:

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Jul. 24 2022,9:42 am

NFA should had been repealed/struck down years ago, the whole concept of the NFA is unconstitutional.

Posted by Brand New Day on Jul. 24 2022,11:07 am

^ ^

like the way these two get all triggered. .

Anus T Gerbil is up at 3 o'clock in the morning

can't even sleep. . . or it's like the most pressing thing he has on his poor excuse of a brain. . :rofl:

Posted by Self-Banished on Jul. 24 2022,2:14 pm

^^ I get up at 2:00 am every day and I sleep quite well because I don’t have rodents crawling up my stink hole like some people we know :blush:

Posted by Self-Banished on Jul. 25 2022,3:17 am

The pedocrats are just a menace to themselves :rofl:

< https://youtu.be/RWH45W_3E2I >

Posted by Self-Banished on Jul. 26 2022,6:19 am

The constitution is shining through :rockon:

< https://youtu.be/tESrptZ1BWc >

Thankyou scotus

Posted by Self-Banished on Jul. 28 2022,6:43 am

Well Kernal, it doesn’t look like there’ll be another unconstitutional AWB anytime soon :rofl:

< https://youtu.be/znUFKhjU-Sk >

Posted by Self-Banished on Jul. 31 2022,6:46 am

Again, the 2nd amendment 👍

< https://youtu.be/RJUEJILW92w >

Posted by Self-Banished on Aug. 20 2022,1:27 pm

I interviewed the two candidates running for sheriff in my county, I asked if they would comply with the gov auditing the ccw holders

< https://youtu.be/w6WUioz_Yas >

One said of course he would, the other said he would tell them to go pound sand.

Posted by Self-Banished on Aug. 25 2022,5:34 am

Posted by Liberal on Aug. 25 2022,10:06 pm

What are you concealed carry folks afraid of? I can't imagine walking down the street worrying about someone giving me the side eye.

In your mind how could a man be a bigger pussy than needing a firearm to protect his candy ass from real men?

Posted by Self-Banished on Aug. 26 2022,6:27 am

^^ come to north Minneapolis sometime.

< https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news....sn_feed >

Posted by Brand New Day on Aug. 26 2022,7:26 am

(Self-Banished @ Aug. 26 2022,6:27 am)

QUOTE

^^ come to north Minneapolis sometime.

< https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news....sn_feed >

are you walking around there at night? :laugh:

you candy ass :rofl:

Posted by Expatriate on Aug. 26 2022,8:25 am

Posted by Self-Banished on Aug. 26 2022,9:03 am

^^ well, when you’re a young kid and you were force to kill another in self defense and are fighting for your life you might be a little scared.

Posted by Brand New Day on Aug. 26 2022,9:57 am

^ ^

17 year old kid had no business being there toting a rifle. . period. .

who in the heck thinks that is a good idea? :dunno:

Posted by Self-Banished on Aug. 26 2022,10:38 am

^^ I guess you’re just unAmerican. :dunce:

Posted by Liberal on Aug. 28 2022,1:13 am

What scares you in North Minneapolis? Is it the brown folk?

Posted by Self-Banished on Aug. 28 2022,8:23 am

^^ crime.

But in fairness, it is safer than 2% of US cities👍

< https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/mn/minneapolis/crime >

Posted by Self-Banished on Aug. 28 2022,2:46 pm

Wow, 30 years now

< https://youtu.be/u9gAPndK9lQ >

< https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruby_Ridge >

Posted by Self-Banished on Sep. 01 2022,6:02 am

For those that follow nothing but lame stream

< https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t....30 >

Posted by Brand New Day on Sep. 01 2022,10:24 am

In contrast to some elected leaders, poll shows S.D. voters support more gun restrictions
< https://www.sdnewswatch.org/stories....Aibjfjw >

Posted by Self-Banished on Sep. 01 2022,11:53 am

^^ah, random telephone poll, scientific as hell :dunce:

Posted by Self-Banished on Sep. 03 2022,7:24 am

Smith&Wesson has become a stellar force in the gun world, leastwise a hell of a lot better than they were in the 90’s

< https://www.forbes.com/sites....billion >

Posted by Expatriate on Sep. 03 2022,8:29 am

^^S&W has a Military appreciation program...it amounts to a $50.00 dollar card for prior service...

< https://www.smith-wesson.com/guardians >

too bad you're 4F Butterball...

Posted by Self-Banished on Sep. 03 2022,10:33 am

^^ too bad I can afford a smith, too bad you don’t qualify🤡🤡

Posted by Self-Banished on Sep. 05 2022,6:20 am

Amazing numbers, appears Gropey Joe might be a better gun salesman than Buster.

< https://youtu.be/txqZkNIGIrA >

An astonishing 5.4 million NEW gun owners

Posted by Self-Banished on Sep. 12 2022,5:38 am

I was at a party this weekend and the subject of the state fair shooting comes up. A women, looked to be mid to late 50’s, very eloquent, stated the the shooter more than likely had a “plastic” gun. I explained to her that there is no such thing as a totally plastic gun, the receiver, bolt, barrel have to be steel this it would be picked up by the metal detectors at the gate. She was adamant, she stated there were all plastic guns and that they were called “ghost guns”. She caused me to think of the Kernal, easily swayed by TV and and other “news” outlet.

This is the problem we have, many people letting the main stream media doing their thinking for them, mindless morons. :dunce:

Posted by Expatriate on Sep. 12 2022,6:21 am

On the S&W 357 mag...It looks nice but a snubnose barrel 357 mag will have a serous bark, without ear protection your ears will never stop ringing..

eight shots makes it too bulky for carry, firing it indoors would be more deafening.

Question: what do you plan to do with this pistol?

Posted by Self-Banished on Sep. 12 2022,6:26 am

^^ nothing but a stock photo, I don’t own any guns.

According to you I’m a “nickel and dimer “ you think I could buy a $1200 revolver?

Posted by Self-Banished on Sep. 13 2022,6:03 am

Back door registration

< https://youtu.be/G21B_qr3z2U >

Posted by Expatriate on Sep. 13 2022,8:53 am

^^ Pay cash...oh I forgot you nickle and dimers put everything on the credit card....

< https://www.reformaustin.org/public-....ry-bill >

Posted by Self-Banished on Sep. 13 2022,9:18 am

^^ they’re also tracking that too, this is the party of pedophilic Nazis.

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Sep. 13 2022,1:22 pm

On the stupid new firearm code. Banks don't have to adopt the new ISO merchant code. As that is all this is, it's just a merchant code, just like Academy is coded as a sports store.
What I can see is merchants that are just strictly firearms will just add fishing stuff and re-code as a sports store. Card companies still aren't going to know what a customers buys unless they call the merchant and inquire and a merchant could just lie and say so and so bought camping gear. Then you have people who just pay in cash, check or go to an ATM and withdraw cash using their credit card.

Then you also have hardware stores that also sell firearms or do FFL transfers and / or sell ammo, such stores ISO merchant code is still going to be hardware.

I mean sure, this could be just a first step into seeing a customers buying habits and what was bought, but at this time line item products aren't listed just the total sale.

On to the dimwit who thinks "ghost guns" are all plastic, all I can say is :rofl:

what a maroon. Why anyone would think the news/politician is the place to get anything factual about firearms is beyond me.

Then onto the ridiculous info graphic point out the rise in "mass shootings" after permitless carry passed. :rofl:

correlation does not equal causation

Posted by Brand New Day on Sep. 14 2022,7:11 am

surprised that they can't can't make a decent functioning gun out of plastic of some type. . .

if that truly is the case. .

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Sep. 14 2022,8:45 am

(Brand New Day @ Sep. 14 2022,7:11 am)

QUOTE

surprised that they can't can't make a decent functioning gun out of plastic of some type. . .

if that truly is the case. .

Pressure and striking power is the main issue. The plastic that is used to 3d print a lower, etc., cannot withstand the pressures of a fired round nor has the tensile strength to successfully strike a primer over and over again. Then there is the need for springs, plastic makes terrible springs.

Now if one was making a gauss/rail gun then ya no problems there, however the issue with these right now is a lack of a high power energy cell small enough for continued use.

Posted by Liberal on Sep. 16 2022,7:20 am

I think you could print a disposable single shot weapon pretty easily, and just use rubber bands as a spring. I personally wouldn't fire it, but it would likely work.

Posted by Brand New Day on Sep. 17 2022,7:10 am

looked into iit a little bit. a lot of the discussion does seem to revolve around repeated use of the gun and the inability to withstand the rigors of repeated use. .

that gun that shot ABRAHAM LINCOLN wasn't much of a gun. although there was a piece in STRIB several years ago. that postulated that it may have been all the poking and and probing of the wound that ultimately did him in.

so yeah maybe a one time close range assassination could be pulled off with a non metal gun? :dunno:

**does seem to be a lot of hybrid like kevlar and metal things available

Posted by Liberal on Sep. 17 2022,7:51 am

I remember being taught how to make an acrylic dagger in plastics class that would easily get through security. Of course they didn't call it a dagger, but it sure wasn't a letter opener.

Posted by Self-Banished on Sep. 17 2022,8:51 am

(Liberal @ Sep. 16 2022,7:20 am)

QUOTE

I think you could print a disposable single shot weapon pretty easily, and just use rubber bands as a spring. I personally wouldn't fire it, but it would likely work.

If you’re right handed I’d chose your left to fire the gun

Posted by Self-Banished on Sep. 17 2022,9:12 am

(Brand New Day @ Sep. 17 2022,7:10 am)

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**does seem to be a lot of hybrid like kevlar and metal things available

Boothe used a 44 caliber derringer, point blank did the trick.

Oswald however, used an Italian Carcano very arguably one of the worst weapons of its era. I’ve personally shot a couple examples and accuracy is pretty much non existent.

< https://covertactionmagazine.com/2021....hot-jfk >

Plastic gun? Yeah, gang bangers are going to be making them by the hundreds :sarcasm:

Posted by Liberal on Sep. 17 2022,4:07 pm

I bought a 3d printer kit for $120 just to build it. The limited amount I've used it I think I could print a barrel and some sort of handle.

Posted by Self-Banished on Sep. 17 2022,4:50 pm

^^ what caliber?

Posted by Liberal on Sep. 17 2022,10:30 pm

Would it matter?

Posted by Self-Banished on Sep. 18 2022,6:54 am

^^ yes, it most likely would. A round like a standard 38 special would have much lower pressures than say a 40 S&W.

Posted by Self-Banished on Sep. 20 2022,6:32 am

Yeah, I wanna shoot a plastic gun :sarcasm:

< https://youtu.be/oEV15uVnhG4 >

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Sep. 20 2022,6:48 am

(Self-Banished @ Sep. 20 2022,6:32 am)

QUOTE

Yeah, I wanna shoot a plastic gun :sarcasm:

< https://youtu.be/oEV15uVnhG4 >

Ahh. The ol hot reloads or using +P rds in a firearm that isn't designed for them will get ya every time Always pull a round from the press and check powder weight every so often, if reloading. I usually check every 10th rd.
Last one was the evil hang fire, not necessarily due to reloading, even factory manufactured ammo, just a slow burning primer.

Posted by Liberal on Sep. 20 2022,2:16 pm

(Self-Banished @ Sep. 18 2022,6:54 am)

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^^ yes, it most likely would. A round like a standard 38 special would have much lower pressures than say a 40 S&W.

I was asking in the sense that it wouldn't matter of it was just a .22, you're going to get hurt.

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Sep. 20 2022,3:04 pm

(Liberal @ Sep. 20 2022,2:16 pm)

QUOTE

(Self-Banished @ Sep. 18 2022,6:54 am)

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^^ yes, it most likely would. A round like a standard 38 special would have much lower pressures than say a 40 S&W.

I was asking in the sense that it wouldn't matter of it was just a .22, you're going to get hurt.

Fun fact.
.38 special has a lower chamber pressure than a .22lr

Posted by Liberal on Sep. 20 2022,8:37 pm

Chamber pressure would be the problem. I guess if it was bulky enough it could hold enough pressure to send the round down range but it would have very little force behind it, and the gun would most likely act like a plastic grenade in your hand. I wouldn't want to be on either side of it.

Posted by Self-Banished on Sep. 21 2022,5:24 am

^^ thanks for actually putting some thought into the subject👍

It brings me back to the women that thought plastic guns were common place. A potential friend gave me a great response to use now.

“I think it might rain”

Posted by Brand New Day on Sep. 21 2022,10:35 am

oh joy the ANUS T GERBIL seal of approval

yeah that's some real appreciable validation there :sarcasm:

Posted by Brand New Day on Sep. 21 2022,10:38 am

so laughable the insignificant straws you try to prop up here as something meaningful as if it has some sort of gravitas

Posted by Self-Banished on Sep. 21 2022,10:56 am

^^ yep, starting to rain :dunce:

Posted by Brand New Day on Sep. 21 2022,12:34 pm

^ ^

your opinion on anything holds zero currency with me

Posted by Self-Banished on Sep. 21 2022,1:33 pm

^^ I’m mortified :sarcasm:

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤡🤡🤡

Posted by Self-Banished on Sep. 22 2022,5:53 am

Most, or about 5.4 million people, brought the weapons into homes that had not previously had them! This through 2020-2021.

< https://www.theguardian.com/us-news....1-study >

< https://www.americas1stfreedom.org/content....in-2021 >

And a lot of them are women, not like the Kernal but real women😳

< https://www.statista.com/statist....-gender >

< https://nationalinterest.org/blog....-199275 >

People are afraid

< https://www.cnn.com/2021....ex.html >

< https://neonnettle.com/news....s-watch >

Posted by Brand New Day on Sep. 22 2022,7:02 am

^ ^ANUS T GERBIL and his cute little one man false information propaganda campaign :laugh:

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Sep. 22 2022,8:24 am

(Brand New Day @ Sep. 22 2022,7:02 am)

QUOTE

^ ^ANUS T GERBIL and his cute little one man false information propaganda campaign :laugh:

How is that false information?
Looking at the NICS numbers along with reporting by NSSF the largest group of new firearm owners were blacks, followed by females for the last few years.

QUOTE

Nearly 47 percent of first-time gun buyers in 2021 inquired about training and 43 percent signed up for training.
Nearly 23 percent of retailers indicated that first-time gun buyers in 2020 purchased another firearm in 2021.
Over 33 percent of first-time gun buyers in 2021 were women.
44 percent of retailers saw an increase of African-Americans purchasing firearms in 2021.
Nearly 40 percent of retailers saw an increase of Hispanic-Americans purchasing firearms in 2021.
Over 27 percent of retailers saw an increase of Asian-Americans purchasing firearms in 2021.
Over 18 percent of retailers saw an increase of Native-Americans purchasing firearms in 2021.
Nearly 14 percent of retailers saw an increase of Native-Hawaiian/Pacific Islanders purchasing firearms in 2021.

< https://www.nssf.org/article....in-2021 >

That is just from 2021, 2022 is seeing a similar record.

Posted by Self-Banished on Sep. 23 2022,7:08 am

This would be funny, if it weren’t so sad

< https://youtu.be/BDv1qFBJh1o >

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Sep. 23 2022,6:45 pm

(Self-Banished @ Sep. 23 2022,7:08 am)

QUOTE

This would be funny, if it weren’t so sad

< https://youtu.be/BDv1qFBJh1o >

As always toobin is wrong. He should just stick to winding his sun dial on zoom.

He's gotta be the product of two incestuous retards.

Posted by Liberal on Sep. 23 2022,9:37 pm

That guy still creeps me out, I can't imagine being in that video call. What would you do if a coworker started spanking it in a video conference call?

And his defense of thinking the camera was off was even creepier.

Posted by Self-Banished on Oct. 02 2022,6:43 am

Hopefully you folks down there are asking if your sheriff candidate will enforce unconstitutional laws.

< https://youtu.be/tikAt3fY8cs >

Posted by Self-Banished on Oct. 03 2022,5:14 am

Let’s consider this

< https://youtu.be/f8I_ch5cJIs >

For seniors like the Kernal and the “limp wristed” like gerbilboy.

Posted by Brand New Day on Oct. 03 2022,5:47 am

ummm you're the latent homo who needs to come out of the closet . . . :laugh:

there's a granny gun for yah
< https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMqncfY6sYs >

Posted by Self-Banished on Oct. 03 2022,5:52 am

^^ excellent vid gerbilboy!

I would recommend a revolver for you, limp writing semi autos will sometimes product fail to feed issues.

I see you’re up early, didn’t get arrested this weekend?

Good for you :rockon:

Posted by Self-Banished on Oct. 03 2022,6:31 am

Remember gerbilboy

Posted by Brand New Day on Oct. 03 2022,7:03 am

^ ^ bunch of bullshit to sell weaponry and all the associated regalia

Posted by Self-Banished on Oct. 03 2022,7:29 am

^^ then I would say the same about shoving little furry critter up your ass.

Posted by Brand New Day on Oct. 03 2022,10:08 am

might want to try to apply some reason to the tired ass Richard Gere story. .

he was married to Cindy Crawford and Carry Lowell

what was it sour grapes from Sly Stalone?

Posted by Self-Banished on Oct. 03 2022,10:26 am

^^ tired ass?? You might want to give poor Kracken a break🤣🐹🤣🐹🤣🐹

I’m here all week folks, try the veal🤣🐹🤣🐹🤣🐹

Posted by Brand New Day on Oct. 03 2022,11:05 am

yeah you're a real riot

'just' the Tip :laugh:

Posted by Self-Banished on Oct. 03 2022,12:11 pm

^^ yes indeed, tip your waiter/waitress 👍

Posted by Self-Banished on Oct. 03 2022,1:47 pm

If this woman had had a gun, if the man that tried to help her had a gun

< https://youtu.be/8d4EWMjsca4 >

Yet pantywaists like Gerbilboy think it’s all bullshit.

Posted by Brand New Day on Oct. 03 2022,2:50 pm

that's a gross lack of security

big lawsuit

that feeble attempt to intervene. that guy would haven't been any better with a gun

you think arming everyone is the answer

everyone has a drivers license

and look at all the shit drivers :sarcasm:

you think everyone is going to be an expert marksman?

not against people having guns

just feebs like you

Posted by Self-Banished on Oct. 03 2022,7:20 pm

^^ wow, how monumentally stupid are you, law suit?? :dunce:

much longer and the women would have been dead.

I’ve had my permit over 15 years now, never had an incident, never had reason to pull it out of the holster but it’s there should I need it. Working in North Mpls I feel a lot better having this option.

I suppose next you’re going to say you’ll wait for the cops :dunce:

Lawsuit, holy shit :dunce:

Posted by Brand New Day on Oct. 04 2022,8:18 am

1) real men don't sit on the internet and brag about guns. and need reassurance from other quasi-tough guys.

2) you pull some extreme random bit up. and then use that as a selling point. you might as well be CNN or FOX

3) you purport that people are scared. so they buy guns. CNN said so. hah

Gary Dahl sold over a million 'pet rocks' to people. so it doesn't take much to hustle your cause.

guess people are 'scared' of dirt too.

QUOTE

iRobots Corporation is considered to be the major player across the globe and has recorded an estimated sale of more than 20 million units of robotic vacuum machines across the world in 2018.

more women are buying guns? more women are buying motorcycles. now they want grandma to have a gun too. . . :laugh:

Posted by Self-Banished on Oct. 04 2022,8:57 am

^^ sounds like you sit safe in your moms basement, safe and secure.

Meanwhile

< https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/wa/seattle/crime >

< https://www.usatoday.com/story....0734001 >

< https://www.way.com/blog/chicagos-crime-rates/ >

And finally

< https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/mn/minneapolis/crime >

If you look on the north side map of Minneapolis, the dark purple section that’s rated “really dangerous” is where I work.

Maybe I should just file a lawsuit :dunce:

Posted by Liberal on Oct. 04 2022,3:58 pm

I don't live in my mom's basement and don't even own a weapon anymore. When I got rid of mine I broke them down and put all 3 them in the waste system bin over 2 weeks. They weren't worth much but I fell better ridding the US of 3 more weapons.

As far as Minneapolis goes, I don't hang out in the bad parts. I assumed they were all full of drugs, and gay prostitutes. Why do you hang out there?

Posted by Self-Banished on Oct. 04 2022,6:31 pm

(Liberal @ Oct. 04 2022,3:58 pm)

QUOTE

We’ll good for you, you live where crime is, for lack of a better description, less than where I work and live.

I’ve seen drug dealers around where I work, pretty obvious what they’re doing, I don’t bother them, they don’t bother me, gay prostitudes? I doubt I’ve seen any but if I do see any butt pirates, ass pounders, flute players, bum chums, flamers, fruits, fudge packers, Peter puffers, pole smokers, chicken hawk or just plain faggots I’ll let you know

I’m guessing you think I make gay references about the Kernal and gerbilboy all the time, not gay, more likely just sexual deviants.

Why do I “hang around” there? I’ve pulled rail freight for almost 40 years, this is where the rail yards are, sorry, they aren’t moving anytime soon, much to the dismay of both Mpls and St Paul

As far as protection? I carry what it would take to make sure I’m safe.

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Oct. 05 2022,12:20 pm

(Liberal @ Oct. 04 2022,3:58 pm)

QUOTE

I don't live in my mom's basement and don't even own a weapon anymore. When I got rid of mine I broke them down and put all 3 them in the waste system bin over 2 weeks. They weren't worth much but I felt better ridding the US of 3 more weapons.

As far as Minneapolis goes, I don't hang out in the bad parts. I assumed they were all full of drugs, and gay prostitutes. Why do you hang out there?

This doesn't make any sense nor logical.
How would that make the US better?

Posted by Self-Banished on Oct. 14 2022,5:07 am

< https://youtu.be/cDTYDOYV2Ic >

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Oct. 14 2022,8:49 am

QUOTE

A Federal District Court in West Virginia threw out a criminal charge under 18 USC 922k because the law violated the Second Amendment. The US Government failed to demonstrate an appropriate historical analogue reflecting that the modern gun control law banning the possession of firearms with an obliterated serial number. Thus, criminal charge was dismissed but court did allow criminal charge for being a felon in possession to move forward.

< US v. Randy Price decision >

This ruling is gonna be a thorn in the "everything needs a serial number" and take the wind out of the registration sails.

Posted by Self-Banished on Oct. 22 2022,6:17 am

Gun grabbers north of the border

< https://youtu.be/UUPn-GVD1rY >

Soon to be here?🧐

Posted by Self-Banished on Oct. 26 2022,6:56 am

Remember guys, buy your lady something decent

< https://youtu.be/09I7r8mCp2Q >

Posted by Self-Banished on Oct. 27 2022,6:57 am

We’ll look at this

< https://www.blumenthal.senate.gov/imo....ter.pdf >

< https://youtu.be/SLyY0eC2cBw >

Maybe these senators and the ATF need to take those little blue pills like the Kernal. :blush:

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Oct. 27 2022,7:33 am

(Self-Banished @ Oct. 27 2022,6:57 am)

QUOTE

That guy pretty much nails it.
Just think, a jig in a kit makes it a firearm. :rofl:

Yeah, no. doj and the batfe(arbf) lack the authority to redefine what is or is not a firearm, which is why they are getting their asses kicked in the courts and keep getting told only congress can redefine.

Then we just recently had a fed judge just shoot down the serialization scheme as unconstitutional under the bruen decision. As it's been said before, the bruen decision is going to be the death knell for alot of unconstitutional gun laws and regs.

Posted by Self-Banished on Oct. 27 2022,7:49 am

The Bruen case will echo forward for decades👍

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Oct. 27 2022,8:10 am

(Self-Banished @ Oct. 27 2022,7:49 am)

QUOTE

The Bruen case will echo forward for decades👍

Quite. The Thomasinator made sure to include the majority of the judgement that was left out in the Heller decision that was to appease and bring on board jurist kennedy.
Also buried deep down in the bruen decision is the first strike against cheveron deference which will strip agencies such as the batfe(arbf) the ability to make up law, as it's quite clear the cheveron decision was unconstitutional.

Posted by Self-Banished on Oct. 31 2022,6:28 am

👍👍

< https://youtu.be/EdSlwnkhGvo >

Posted by Self-Banished on Nov. 01 2022,9:03 am

How pathetic :blush:

< https://www.cbsnews.com/minneso....ew-path >

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Nov. 01 2022,2:37 pm

(Self-Banished @ Nov. 01 2022,9:03 am)

QUOTE

How pathetic :blush:

< https://www.cbsnews.com/minneso....ew-path >

Gun buy backs are nothing more than PR stunts and have zero effect on crimes involving firearms.

They are however a perfect opportunity to get some firearms cheap and most times the person will opt for cash vs a gift card.

Caught this lil gem.

QUOTE

You can get a $150 gift card for any handguns turned in, and a $250 gift card for any automatic guns, assault rifles, or long guns.

Automatics and assault rifles are the same thing, and who in their right mind would pony up an auto for just a $250 gift card, when an FFL would pay you market value.
$250 bucks for a multi-thousand dollar firearm? Thanks but no thanks.

Posted by Self-Banished on Nov. 01 2022,2:51 pm

^^ also a good way to get cash for junkers I’ve stripped of parts :rockon:

Posted by Expatriate on Nov. 22 2022,5:16 am

MAGA Connection to Colorado Springs Shooting EXPOSED!
The man who used an AR-15 to shoot up a Colorado gay nightclub killing 5 and injuring 25 is the grandson of a MAGA politician who praised the January 6 insurrection. We are also learning he had called in a bomb threat against his mother, and despite this violent history was still able to get an AR-15. Meidas contributor Troy breaks down the violent online rhetoric and lax gun laws that are getting people killed in the U.S.
Remember SB ended every post with pedophilia or homophobic slurs....where did he pick this stuff up, it was obvious he had some frontal lobe damage so it wasn't his own tripe he was posting!

< View on YouTube >

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Nov. 22 2022,7:59 am

(Expatriate @ Nov. 22 2022,5:16 am)

QUOTE

< View on YouTube >

Hmm, I dunno. So far the investigators in colorado who are investigating the matter have yet to determine the actual motivation for the shooting.
Just because some morons say it's related doesn't make it true, then again that is the state of news media in America, run with wild accusations and if anyone disagrees with said narrative you are a misinformer/racist/homophobe/transphobe/white supremacist, and on and on.

As to the inbred subhuman piece of dna trash getting his hands on a rifle, matters not if he wasn't adjudicated for his crimes last year. This is what happens when you have woke soft on crime DA's that wont prosecute.

Also nothing wrong with slurs if they fit and if you think only people with a certain political slant like SB are the only types to use slurs, well bless your lil heart.

Posted by Expatriate on Nov. 23 2022,6:10 am

GD Quote:

QUOTE

You always write in parables, the only thing we seem to agree on is this kid should have been red flagged and not allowed to purchase firearms.

My wife's sister and her husband live in a suburb of Colorado Springs so this is one city I have a little firsthand knowledge on...

Colorado Springs Votes overwhelmingly Republican so I doubt we'll find any "woke" DA's that won't prosecute...just the opposite, when the Red Flag laws passed the El Paso County sheriff ( Colorado Springs ) said the law was unconstitutional and the Courts would strike it down! this place is GQP central..

Colorado Springs is home to Focus on the Family a fundamentalist Protestant organization founded by James Dobson, headquarters is a four building, 47-acre complex located off of Interstate 25 in northern Colorado Springs.. The group is one of a number of evangelical parachurch organizations..not really a congregational type church but more of a propagandist/political-wing of Religion, they had 1400 hundred employees at their peak...
The organization has referred to the LGBT rights movement as a "particularly evil lie of Satan"

Posted by Expatriate on Nov. 25 2022,6:38 am

The father of Colorado Springs suspect Anderson Lee Aldrich surfaced on Wednesday and made jaw-droppingly despicable comments related to the attack at Club Q.

< View on YouTube >

Posted by Expatriate on Dec. 11 2022,5:34 am

Posted by Self-Banished on Feb. 13 2023,6:02 am

Posted by Self-Banished on Feb. 14 2023,6:31 am

Another

Posted by Self-Banished on Feb. 18 2023,10:56 am

It seems more and more sheriffs are telling Governor potatohead and the pedocrats to fuck off.

Posted by Expatriate on Feb. 19 2023,7:52 am

Haven't bothered to lookup or read the bill all I need to know is you're against it...

As for these so called Sheriffs, there's always a turd that floats to the top...

Do I keep a loaded gun in the house? yes in locked handgun safe on the second shelf of a nightstand...

The last thing I want is a grand kid exploring grandpa and grandma's house and finding a loaded pistol to play with...

Little dick fucks like you need to grow up...

Posted by Self-Banished on Feb. 19 2023,8:12 am

(Expatriate @ Feb. 19 2023,7:52 am)

QUOTE

Do I keep a loaded gun in the house? yes in locked handgun safe on the second shelf of a nightstand...

“Excuse me mr break and entering, I have to get my gun out of the safe to defend mysel” :dunce:

Under one of the bills going through our gov, you’d have to keep your gun locked up, unloaded and ammo locked up separate. If you’d bother to research you’d know this, instead you’re a witless moron.

< https://www.inforum.com/news....nnesota >

< https://gunownersmn.s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/2023-se....023.pdf >

My defense is always within reach. Limp Dick idiots like you think law enforcement will protect them.

< https://gunowners.mn/ >

Posted by Self-Banished on Feb. 27 2023,6:18 am

And the lost grows

Posted by Expatriate on Feb. 27 2023,7:28 am

Section 1. [624.7163] FIREARM AND AMMUNITION STORAGE
REQUIREMENTS.
Subdivision 1. Storage.

The owner of a firearm must take reasonable action to secure
the firearm when it is not carried or under the control of the owner or an authorized user.
For this purpose, reasonable action requires a firearm to be stored ~~unloaded~~ with a locking device ~~and separately from its ammunition~~.

I think this is the section of the bill you are posting about SB..
yeah, the second paragraph needs to taken out or rewritten!
I've struck some wording to the point I'd find it acceptable.

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Feb. 27 2023,8:57 am

What is it with inbred idiot politicians and their one size fits all "safe storage" BS laws?

Look, "safe storage" type laws have also been addressed in; Heller, McDonald and Bruen, and each time those types of laws have been struck down as unconstitutional.

Posted by Liberal on Feb. 27 2023,9:29 am

I've known one gun owner that keeps every single gun stored in a safe. His safe was actually built into the basement floor when the house was built.

Another guy I knew when I was younger had a father that put them everywhere. I remember the first time my friends and I watched a video there I looked down next to the chair I was sitting in and there was a .45 in the magazine rack. Then a friend went to get a glass of water and there was a handgun in the cupboard. Another time we were out there and a friend needed a phone book and when he opened the drawer there was handgun in there. My friend said his dad did it for protection because they lived in the country and he wanted fast access to them.

Even if 90% of gun owners were responsible owners that still leaves a shitload of people like my friend's dad.

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Feb. 27 2023,10:49 am

(Liberal @ Feb. 27 2023,9:29 am)

QUOTE

Aside from the anecdotal story. Is it your opinion that only people who lock up their firearms are considered responsible?

Posted by Expatriate on Feb. 27 2023,11:10 am

^^ Any guns kept in my main gun safe are stored unloaded.
The loaded gun on my nightstand has it's own pistol safe that is locked but accessible in seconds, but only to me.

Many years ago when I was still working on my education I had a couple of other guys that I shared a house with for economical reasons while going to school.

One of these guys would leave loaded guns all over the place it didn't bother me at the time, was used to dealing with loaded weapons.

We had some people over one Saturday, these were all people in there early to mid 20's the beer was sliding down pretty good.

One the guests finds one of my roommates pistols picks it up to look at it before anybody can say that's loaded he pulls the trigger! We were lucky that this inexperienced KID wasn't pointing that pistol at anyone or himself but he did put a hole in the ceiling!

Firearms aren't dangerous in the right hands but there's way too many stupid folks around.

It's a lesson I'll never forget...

Posted by Self-Banished on Feb. 28 2023,4:13 am

And it continues👍

Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 01 2023,5:39 am

47 counties now👍

Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 02 2023,11:37 am

48 now

What are you going to do Comrade Dick Whistle when you’re required to have a permit just to own a firearm if this legislation goes through? :blush:

Posted by Expatriate on Mar. 02 2023,1:33 pm

^^ the letters from Sheriffs you've posted here Moo are all referring to HF 396..that one is nothing..Check out SF 1723

< https://www.revisor.mn.gov/bills....mber=0 >

^^ now that's an SOB of a bill, these are all in committee and can change drastically.

I believe right now there are 4 different gun bills working their way through the House.

All these bills are fluid and being revised...for better or worse..

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Mar. 02 2023,7:12 pm

Man, MN legislature/govt has gone full retard with these unconstitutional anti gun bills.

Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 03 2023,6:14 am

^^ I agree, this is nothing more than a futile/feel good attempt to restrict our rights. the way SCOTUS is going everything will be struck down within 3-6 months.

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Mar. 03 2023,10:22 am

(Self-Banished @ Mar. 03 2023,6:14 am)

QUOTE

^^ I agree, this is nothing more than a futile/feel good attempt to restrict our rights. the way SCOTUS is going everything will be struck down within 3-6 months.

I don't know about 3-6mo without least a tro/stay/injunction, like they did in illinois and it looks like their awb/mag ban BS is going to get struck down when that court finally gets around to it.
Legislatures know the slow pace at which the court system moves and in the mean time can go along and crap all over the people's enumerated right until it finally gets struck down.

Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 04 2023,5:28 am

👍

< https://gunowners.mn/press-release-2023-state-of-the-union/ >

Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 05 2023,7:01 am

< https://youtu.be/-3k2D2mJ4cc >

👍

In other news :rofl:

< https://youtu.be/LLiwRQ6xQ1g >

You go girl :rofl:

Posted by Expatriate on Mar. 05 2023,9:04 am

moved this to the 2 amendment thread:

Quote: SB

QUOTE

Besides, that was ruled unconstitutional by SCOTUS already.

What was? Storage? Background Checks? Red Flag Laws?

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Mar. 05 2023,9:12 am

(Expatriate @ Mar. 05 2023,9:04 am)

QUOTE

moved this to the 2 amendment thread:

Quote: SB

QUOTE

Besides, that was ruled unconstitutional by SCOTUS already.

What was? Storage? Background Checks? Red Flag Laws?

Mandatory storage was addressed in Heller and found to be unconstitutional.
Red flag type laws were addressed in Bruen and also fail constitutional scrutiny. Also with Bruen, a challenge on background checks could be argued since that also fails, text, history and tradition, let alone it compels a person to testify against oneself and compels speech.

Posted by Expatriate on Mar. 05 2023,9:24 am

^^Thank you for the response with case reference names.

Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 05 2023,9:51 am

^^ so why are the Minnesota pedocrats trying to pass legislation?

Posted by Expatriate on Mar. 05 2023,10:16 am

^^19 States have Red Flag Laws, to my surprise even Florida has one..
< https://everytownresearch.org/report/extreme-risk-laws-save-lives/ >

On the storage I'm already compliant, with the exception of loaded.

Sales, I've only sold one gun in my lifetime actually it was a trade, that was back in the 1960's...

So if you sell a gun under the proposed law you'd have to get law enforcement approval that the person purchasing the firearm is eligible..

don't know for sure you follow this stuff...

Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 05 2023,1:16 pm

^^ even though you don’t have ready access, you’re going to have to keep it unloaded.

< https://www.revisor.mn.gov/bills....umber=0 >

Also, pay particular attention to section 10:1

Posted by Expatriate on Mar. 05 2023,1:23 pm

^^ Lets see what shakes out, nothing is carved in stone.

SF 1723 doesn't have a companion bill in the House meaning it's nowhere near it's final language..

Thought you carried insurance?

it's not a bad idea, problem is when it becomes mandatory I can see costs skyrocket..

Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 05 2023,3:13 pm

^^ that’s legal defense insurance

Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 08 2023,7:33 pm

I hear where the county commissioners have declared Freeborn county a 2nd amendment sanctuary.

More folks with a set of balls.

Posted by Expatriate on Mar. 09 2023,5:04 am

^^Could you provide a link to the Commissioner's meeting where this was passed or a news article?

I can't seem to find one....

Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 09 2023,5:57 am

^^ I saw it on FB, I can’t seem to find anything now, hmmm🤨

Posted by Expatriate on Mar. 10 2023,2:44 pm

^^ proposed House bill, HF 396, and its Senate companion, SF 916 ,

Being one of the only DFL state senators from a rural Minnesota district, Sen. Rob. Kupec, DFL-Moorhead, said he believes the safe-storage bill will have to undergo some changes if it hopes to make it through the Senate.

"From the little bit I've seen of (the bill) from the House, I have some concerns with the bill," said Kupec. "It's not just me. There are several members of the DFL caucus that have some concerns with the bill in its current form."

< https://twitter.com/wadenapj/status/1630948265616089090 >

if link doesn't work search:
Glander and 25 other sheriffs oppose safe-storage firearms bill; Kupec expects changes in Senate

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Mar. 10 2023,6:02 pm

Concern is one thing on safe storage laws, the other is the fact that safe storage laws are wholly unconstitutional, not to mention a whole bevy of supreme court rulings that severely limit govts (state and federal) ability to regulate private conduct within the home.

How someone decides to store their firearms in their home is beyond the reach and scope of the govt.

Posted by Expatriate on Mar. 14 2023,2:37 pm

HOUSTON — A 3-year-old girl found a loaded gun in a Texas home and accidentally shot her sister, killing the 4-year-old on Sunday, an official said.

Harris County Sheriff Ed Gonzalez said the girls were in the bedroom of an apartment on Bammel North Houston Road, where they lived with their parents, around 8 p.m.

< https://www.nbcnews.com/news....na74687 >

Well here's a case for a locked gun safe....

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Mar. 14 2023,4:40 pm

(Expatriate @ Mar. 14 2023,2:37 pm)

QUOTE

So anecdotal evidence as a justification of forced storage laws? Yeah no thanks.

Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 15 2023,5:46 am

(Expatriate @ Mar. 14 2023,2:37 pm)

QUOTE

I guess the parents should have taught their child better. Sorry, just a cold hard fact.

Another fact, Gropey’s been instructed to “puff up his chest”, institute new refs that are already on the books.

< https://www.forbes.com/sites....will-do >
:oops:

Feeling better?

Posted by Expatriate on Mar. 15 2023,5:58 am

^^Idgit Quote:

QUOTE

I guess the parents should have taught their child better. Sorry, just a cold hard fact.

Well at 3 and 4 years old the kids aren't the negligent culprits, in this case it's the parents that needed some education.

Unfortunately they learned the hard way that a $17. pistol safe from Harbor Freight would have saved their daughters life.

What do you think their opinion is today on gun safes...idgit

Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 15 2023,6:14 am

^^ i guess they learn a lesson, teach your kids. $17 dollar safe from Harbor :dunce:

How long does it take to get your weapon out comrade Dick Whistle, I do mean your firearms, not you dick.

My kids grew up in a house full of guns, I taught them to leave them be.

In the case you promoted we can assume natural selection, something you escaped in life.

Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 17 2023,6:42 am

Almost the entire state now

Illinois too!

< https://youtu.be/Nsi1Wpwrsy4 >

Posted by Expatriate on Mar. 18 2023,8:25 am

Sheriff speaks out against proposed ammunition legislation

< https://www.albertleatribune.com/2023....slation >

Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 18 2023,9:22 am

^^ yet the fuckwits that are pushing this legislation are your people comrade Dick Whistle. :blush:

Posted by Expatriate on Mar. 18 2023,9:41 am

^^ It's dead in the water in it's present form...
You've got your panties in a bundle over nothing..

I believe what you're really afraid of is that expanded background check...

I wondered where you were at when you went missing...

Now you've admitted you were in the Cuckoo's nest you may be Red Flagged...

Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 18 2023,11:21 am

^^ cuckoo nest? Maybe we don’t need to worry about you owning a firearm.

Another lie, like your entire life :blush:

Posted by Expatriate on Mar. 19 2023,5:57 am

^^Safe storage is a no-brainer, there shouldn't have to be a law, any responsible firearms owner practices SAFE Storage, except for idgits like you..
You're just like this punk ass kid Kyle Rittenhouse, he shouldn't have had a firearm and your dumb ass shouldn't either...and someday you'll get yourself in real trouble!

There's some ulterior reason you MAGAts don't want any gun laws, because most you wack jobs have something on your record that would flag you and preclude firearm ownership...

Kyle Rittenhouse’s latest GRIFT is EXPOSED on Live TV

< View on YouTube >

Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 19 2023,6:51 am

Rittenhouse Was found innocent, or did that fact escape you feeble, aging mind? :dunce:

Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 21 2023,5:25 am

< https://www.albertleatribune.com/2023....slation >

You won’t have to store your HiPoint separate from your ammo comrade Dick Whistle 👍

Posted by Expatriate on Mar. 21 2023,5:31 am

^^ I've already posted that link on my March 18th post in this thread... :dunce:

Seriously there's studies on diesel fumes and brain damage...

You can't legally own a Hi-point pistol in Minnesota, but then you wouldn't know anything about real Firearms because you can't pass the background check..

You've spent too much time in the Cuckoo's Nest...

Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 21 2023,5:53 am

(Expatriate @ Mar. 21 2023,5:31 am)

QUOTE

You can't legally own a Hi-point pistol in Minnesota, but then you wouldn't know anything about real Firearms because you can't pass the background check..

Yes, I know, because it’s a POS

But you have one

So here we are

Seems my whole life has been a background check, at one time I had to pass a check with the Burlington Northern to gain access to security sensitive areas.

Comrade Dick Whistle, are you doing background checks on those long haulers that have access to your “sensitive areas”?🤣🤣🤣

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Mar. 21 2023,7:09 am

Oh. MN, you never fail to disappoint.

QUOTE

Prohibited:

Handguns (other than antique firearms) where the frame, barrel, cylinder, slide or breech-lock is composed of any material with a melting point of less than 1,000 degrees F, or an ultimate tensile strength of less than 55,000 psi, or comprised of any powdered metal having a density of less than 7.5 grams/cubic centimeter.
Walther rimfire pistols, Cobra, Phoenix Arms, Hi-Point, Heritage Arms, and GSG rimfire pistols.

Seriously, Walther? Walther is in a class way higher than the rest.
Can't have them poor people buying affordable firearms

Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 21 2023,7:15 pm

^^GSG makes Sig Sauer’s 1911 rimfire, must be a different metal because I see them in the displays.

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Mar. 21 2023,10:13 pm

(Self-Banished @ Mar. 21 2023,7:15 pm)

QUOTE

^^GSG makes Sig Sauer’s 1911 rimfire, must be a different metal because I see them in the displays.

It makes zero logical sense as to why those firearms are banned from being sold in MN, it's about as retarded as commiefornia's handgun roster.
Which just got ruled as being unconstitutional.

Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 22 2023,6:38 am

^^ SCOTUS will be shooting down a lot of new laws this coming session, including some in Minnesota.

Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 23 2023,7:00 am

A new shop and range on my side of town :rockon:

< https://www.themodernsportsman.com/ >

Always fun.

Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 25 2023,7:31 am

< https://youtu.be/-2f4ZHzsKo8 >

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Mar. 25 2023,9:50 am

The misnamed, "gun buy back" are such a waste of time and resources and have yet to provide any measurable effect on crimes involving firearms.
It's nothing more than a virtue signaling PR stunt.
The shame of these kabuki theater antics is that some really nice historical firearms end up being scrapped, every once in a while someone working the event with a keen eye will save them.

Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 25 2023,7:23 pm

^^ love profited from selling parts stripped guns over the years.

Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 26 2023,5:27 am

This should cause a few heads to explode this morning👍

< https://youtu.be/cX1e0SPNyoM >

Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 29 2023,6:06 am

Hmmm🧐

< https://youtu.be/vgXRhW0Sjjo >

Posted by Expatriate on Mar. 29 2023,6:26 am

^^ another denier...obviously this person in Tennessee had mental issues that eluded law enforcement, because of idgits like you who think all these nutjobs should have guns....

Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 29 2023,6:41 am

^^ well, a transgender person to be sure. It seems there have been a few more mass shooters of the transgender sickness, I’ve heard 4 in recent history but I’m still researching.

One thing for sure comrade Dick Whistle, this shooter was dickless, much like you :blush:

Posted by Expatriate on Mar. 29 2023,7:00 am

^^ The above is posted by a 63 year old adolescent MAGA who wants no regulation whatsoever on firearms!

I have to question why he's so against expanded background checks, I can only assume there's something in his past that would RED FLAG him from ownership. perhaps a stay in the Cuckoos Nest or some Violent behavior towards his ex-wife who he's chastised verbally on this forum on several occasions...

What he posts on this site should be enough for law enforcement to realize he shouldn't have a permit to carry or be allowed to own any type of firearm, including BB guns..he's simply not mature enough!

Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 29 2023,7:11 am

^^ ah, deflection🧐

You seem worried comrade Dick Whistle, nefarious plans with the hipoint? Seems cross dressing is the new investigation point. You probably should be worried. :blush:

I’ve filled out many 4473’s over the years, will be renewing my ccw for the 3rd or 4th time this year, if anyone should be investigated it should be you, angry, sexually confused, low grade intelligence.

I pity you.

Posted by Expatriate on Mar. 29 2023,8:25 am

^^ The only way to stop this stuff is catch it before it happens...
That means more stringent background checks both Federal and local. Prevention is the key...

< View on YouTube >

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Mar. 29 2023,8:34 am

(Expatriate @ Mar. 29 2023,8:25 am)

QUOTE

^^ The only way to stop this stuff is catch it before it happens...
That means more stringent background checks both Federal and local. Prevention is the key...

BGC are nothing more than security theater and can be argued that it is unconstitutional since it forces a person to testify against oneself along with compelled speech.

Saying a more enhanced BGC is going to solve the issue is nothing more than wishing a pile of crap in one hand is gold that the other hand can hold.

Subjecting Americans to more unconstitutional nonsense for a .004% problem is nothing more than cheap political points, lazy and just keeps kicking the can down the road at the cost of further infringements of enumerated rights and privileges.

The question that needs to be addressed is why this particular person targeted a Christian school(s) and wanted to die in the process.
This whole fiasco is pointing more and more to being a hate crime, while at the same time does seem suspiciously convenient that the issue surrounding the batfe(arbf) pistol brace nonsense and a supposed antigun nutball just so happened to be in Nash and got their 15 mins of bloviating antigun nonsense the day of the shooting.

Posted by Liberal on Mar. 29 2023,10:08 am

Australia would disagree.

< https://youtu.be/v0aGGOK4kAM >

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Mar. 29 2023,10:24 am

(Liberal @ Mar. 29 2023,10:08 am)

QUOTE

Australia would disagree.

< https://youtu.be/v0aGGOK4kAM >

One thing the US isn't Austraila, in that the US has the enumerated negative right to keep and bear arms.
Another thing, homicides were already on the decline 7 years before Austraila went full fascist and banned ordinary modern sport rifles.
After the ban(s) crime has been rising, two years after the ban their govt statistics showed a dramatic increase in criminal activity, homicides were up 20%
Then from the inception of firearm confiscation:
Firearm-related murders were up 19%
Armed robberies were up 69%
Home invasions were up 21%

Austraila isn't the utopia you are making it out to be.

Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 29 2023,5:57 pm

(Liberal @ Mar. 29 2023,10:08 am)

QUOTE

Australia would disagree.

< https://youtu.be/v0aGGOK4kAM >

Australia does have an iron clad 2nd amendment

Posted by Liberal on Mar. 29 2023,7:34 pm

Why is that amendment iron clad? Other's weren't, they changed with the times

Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 29 2023,8:11 pm

^^ the first? The third? The fourth? The fifth? I think you know where this goes.

But why not, let’s repeal the 2nd amendment .

“The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as Part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate.”

< https://www.khanacademy.org/humanit....process >

Let me know when this happens :blush:

Posted by Expatriate on Mar. 30 2023,4:46 am

Mental health issues are not unique to the US, every country has them, some countries with a bigger population than the United States. Why are the nut jobs in those countries not shooting up schools and orchestrating mass shootings?

Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 30 2023,5:29 am

^^ ah, blame the other guy, how typical :dunce:

We are not “other countries” we have a constitution, we have rights and one of those rights is to be able to defend oneself.

We’ve discussed this before, I can still get you rates on cans to move your silly crossdressing ass to another country :blush:

Posted by Expatriate on Mar. 30 2023,7:32 am

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Mar. 30 2023,8:44 am

(Liberal @ Mar. 29 2023,7:34 pm)

QUOTE

Why is that amendment iron clad? Other's weren't, they changed with the times

Ahh, the living document argument. Yeah, that isn't how enumerated rights work. Enumerated rights wouldn't serve any purpose if they were changed due to the political winds blowing one way or another, in doing so makes enumerated rights privileges. Enumerated rights are static until changed by the amendment process.

As to the 2nd being iron clad, a more apt descriptor would be that the amendment falls under strict scrutiny, which is pointed out at the end "shall not be infringed" The Bruen decision addressed the strict scrutiny and ended the means balancing nonsense the lower courts were employing.

Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 31 2023,4:15 pm

Then there’s the NRA

< https://youtu.be/ceqBYJkUrAs >

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Mar. 31 2023,5:48 pm

I see United States district judge Katherine Menendez has struck down MN ban on concealed carry for adults under 21.
Worth v. Harrington

QUOTE

In sum, the Commissioner’s reliance on statutes passed in the second half of the 19th century does not support his burden to show the age requirement in Minn. Stat. § 624.714, subd. 2(b)(2), is consistent with the nation’s history and tradition of firearm regulations as required by Bruen.

a. The Court declares that Minn. Stat. § 624.714, subd. 2(b)(2)’s requirement that a person must be at least 21 years of age to receive a permit to publicly carry a handgun in Minnesota violates the rights of individuals 18–20 years old to keep and bear arms protected by the Second and Fourteenth Amendments; and

b. Defendants are enjoined from enforcing the 21-year minimum-age requirement in Minn. Stat. § 624.714, subd. 2(b)(2), against the individual Plaintiffs and otherwise-qualified 18–20-year-olds;

Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 31 2023,6:10 pm

^^ I was just gonna post that👍

< https://gunownersmn.s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/litigat....ion.pdf >

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 01 2023,6:23 am

From the fishwrap

< https://www.albertleatribune.com/2023/03/guns-are-the-problem/ >

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 04 2023,6:08 am

Oops, almost forgot

< https://youtu.be/AFjRfSjdppY >

Not a big fan of this guy but he does have his moments

Posted by Expatriate on Apr. 06 2023,5:33 am

You Wanna Fix this?

< View on YouTube >

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 06 2023,6:14 pm

^^

< https://www.goodreads.com/quotes....neither >

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 15 2023,7:58 pm

< https://youtu.be/sfqAsqDdbwE >

Posted by Expatriate on Apr. 16 2023,5:33 am

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 16 2023,8:00 am

^^ yes, the NRA is lame, Wayne even lamer.

We need more leaders like Noem, she has more balls than you comrade Dick Whistle.

Posted by Expatriate on Apr. 19 2023,6:48 am

Republicans' latest moves have DEVASTATING consequences

< View on YouTube >

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 19 2023,6:55 am

^^

< https://youtu.be/dmqWlrTfUwA >

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 20 2023,7:30 am

< https://youtu.be/UC_y8AUDQDI >

Yet in Minnesota

< https://www.cbsnews.com/minneso....capitol >

Leftist legislation, soon to be struck down. :dunce:

Posted by Expatriate on Apr. 26 2023,4:37 am

Gun Violence Is Actually Worse in Red States. It’s Not Even Close.

America’s regions are poles apart when it comes to gun deaths and the cultural and ideological forces that drive them.

< https://www.politico.com/news....0092413 >

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 26 2023,6:02 am

^^ yeah, sure :sarcasm:

You need to wonder around N Minneapolis on a Saturday night.

Posted by Expatriate on Apr. 26 2023,2:53 pm

^^^

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 27 2023,5:03 am

^^ perhaps you need to do your job better.

Posted by Expatriate on Apr. 27 2023,5:05 am

^^ you're the Doordash driver..idgit :dunce:

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 27 2023,5:14 am

^^ pretty big door dash buggy you got there comrade Dick Whistle

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 29 2023,7:52 pm

Comrade Dick Whistle’s home invasion strategies👍

< https://youtu.be/-DzginiUVUY >

Posted by Liberal on Apr. 29 2023,11:21 pm

Weird, who would have expected a homoerotic response?

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 30 2023,6:04 am

Predictable, a snarky comment. :rofl:

Posted by Self-Banished on May 03 2023,7:01 am

Barrettes weighing in🧐

< https://youtu.be/gRRV9wD64aE >

Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 03 2023,5:58 pm

< https://youtu.be/mAFXOnxxl5Q >

.06% :blush:

Posted by Expatriate on Jun. 07 2023,3:41 am

Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 07 2023,4:51 am

^^ and then there are draft dodging cowards such as yourself :blush:

Thomas Jefferson said:

“He who gives his freedom for safety gets none of them.”

What a clown you are comrade Dick Whistle.

Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 17 2023,6:17 am

There are “good guys”👍

< https://youtu.be/XcmeEa6E0gE >

Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 17 2023,12:10 pm

Pure weaponization :angry:

< https://youtu.be/lHc32SulHKo >

< https://youtu.be/tSN9-Tm15D4 >

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Jun. 17 2023,12:58 pm

What's interesting is that in the gestapo irs warrant, 4473s wasn't mentioned but took them anyway. By hook and crook to ensure an unlawful registry.
Under the hair sniffing, pedo retard administration, FFL closures are up 500%, its obvious the doj is being directed to target FFLs since unconstitutional gun control isn't being passed at the federal level, will pretty much ding any FFL for honest clerical mistakes and charge them with willful intent nonsense.

Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 19 2023,7:20 am

Appearently, the IRS can go into anyone’s house at any time.

< https://dailycaller.com/2023....-report >

< https://www.tampafp.com/jim-jordan-says-irs-agent-claimed-he-can-go/ >

< https://twitter.com/DcEnquirer/status/1670410861121339392 >

🫤

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Jun. 19 2023,7:31 am

(Self-Banished @ Jun. 19 2023,7:20 am)

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Well sure if he wants to take a chance of getting shot.
Only good jackboot is a dead jackboot.

Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 24 2023,2:03 pm

< https://youtu.be/7lC9gbhwpDM >

Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 26 2023,4:34 am

Looks like our local woman beater wants to weigh in.

< https://youtu.be/hjstCc_idDc >

Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 28 2023,6:39 am

< https://youtu.be/wcBjyb1VQvk >

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Jul. 01 2023,10:39 am

Goose-steppin'-jackboot thugs aka batfe(arbf) got their unlawful frames and receiver rule tossed by a federal judge granting summary judgement and vacating the rule on 80% and kits.

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In sum, there is a legal distinction between a weapon parts kit, which may be an aggregation of partially manufactured parts not subject to the agency’s regulatory authority, and a “weapon” which “may readily be completed [or] assembled . . . to expel a projectile.” 18 U.S.C. § 921(a)(3)(A). Defendants contend that drawing such a distinction will produce the absurd result whereby a person lawfully prohibited from possessing a firearm can obtain the necessary components and, given advances in technology, self-manufacture a firearm with relative ease and efficiency.86 Even if it is true that such an interpretation creates loopholes that as a policy matter should be avoided, it (sic) not the role of the judiciary to correct them. That is up to Congress. And until Congress enacts a different statute, the Court is bound to enforce the law as written. -judge o'connor

Statement by FPC

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Today, Firearms Policy Coalition (FPC) and FPC Action Foundation (FPCAF) announced that a federal judge has granted summary judgment for the plaintiffs in VanDerStok v. Garland, vacating the ATF’s “frame or receiver” rule and preventing the federal government from enforcing it. The opinion can be viewed at FPCLegal.org.

“This case presents the question of whether the federal government may lawfully regulate partially manufactured firearm components, related firearm products, and other tools and materials in keeping with the Gun Control Act of 1968,” wrote Federal District Court Judge Reed O’Connor in his Order. “Because the Court concludes that the government cannot regulate those items without violating federal law, the Court holds that the government’s recently enacted Final Rule… is unlawful agency action taken in excess of the ATF’s statutory jurisdiction. On this basis, the Court vacates the Final Rule.”

“We’re thrilled to see the Court agree that ATF’s Frame or Receiver Rule exceeds the agency’s congressionally limited authority,” said Cody J. Wisniewski, FPCAF’s Senior Attorney for Constitutional Litigation and FPC’s counsel in this case. “With this decision, the Court has properly struck down ATF’s Rule and ensured that it cannot enforce that which it never had the authority to publish in the first place.”

“This is a monumental victory against the tyrannical ATF. Firearms Policy Coalition and FPC Law have argued that this rogue agency has unlawfully attacked gun owners in this latest round of ‘rulemaking’ and we are grateful to see the Court agree,” said Richard Thomson, FPC’s Vice President of Communications. “We will not stop, however, with this latest victory. FPC and FPC Law will continue to bring these cases to put a stop to the immoral and unconstitutional actions of the disarmament regime.”

Plaintiffs in this case are two individuals, Tactical Machining, LLC, and FPC. FPCAF represents the Plaintiffs, alongside Mountain States Legal Foundation.

Individuals who would like to join the FPC Grassroots Army and support important pro-rights lawsuits and programs like these can sign up at JoinFPC.org. Individuals and organizations wanting to support charitable efforts in support of the restoration of Second Amendment and other natural rights can also make a tax-deductible donation to the FPC Action Foundation. For more on FPC’s lawsuits and other pro-Second Amendment initiatives, visit FPCLegal.org and follow FPC on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, YouTube.

Posted by Self-Banished on Jul. 18 2023,6:26 am

Good question🧐

< https://www.albertleatribune.com/2023....nforced >

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Jul. 18 2023,7:23 am

(Self-Banished @ Jul. 18 2023,6:26 am)

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Good question🧐

< https://www.albertleatribune.com/2023....nforced >

It's about control not safety, that is the only reason as to why.

Posted by Self-Banished on Aug. 02 2023,5:16 am

Meanwhile, on other fronts

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< https://youtu.be/bG9ZzJ_9KRU >

Posted by Self-Banished on Aug. 24 2023,6:34 am

🧐

< https://youtu.be/hnRyIkO74es?si=onVo90Hcp6sKWbcG >

Posted by Self-Banished on Sep. 07 2023,7:02 pm

Will Liberty end up like Bud Light?

< https://youtu.be/HPubqzpRisA?si=eEgrNhD9Vt-6vdwl >

Posted by Self-Banished on Sep. 11 2023,4:19 pm

Let’s just suspend the constitution

< https://www.foxnews.com/media....n-order >

About as fucked in the head as comrade Dick Whistle :dunce:

Posted by Self-Banished on Sep. 13 2023,6:25 am

Pedocrat bitch is absolutely nuts🧐

< https://youtu.be/CLz3iJwW4T8?si=7NFwXR0eBlqdu4G6 >

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Sep. 13 2023,11:14 pm

(Self-Banished @ Sep. 11 2023,4:19 pm)

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Let’s just suspend the constitution

< https://www.foxnews.com/media....n-order >

About as fucked in the head as comrade Dick Whistle :dunce:

Her unconstitutional eo got a TRO issued and enjoined the NM gov, as the plaintiffs are likely to succeed on the merits based in MacDonald, Heller and Bruen.
Next step is a trial hearing set for Oct. 3rd. which will most likely result in an injunction if queenie hasn't rescinded her unconstitutional eo by then.

Posted by Self-Banished on Sep. 14 2023,6:10 am

^^ maybe not, she’ll just rescind the declaration, the no harm, no foul.

Liberal playbook

Posted by Expatriate on Sep. 16 2023,6:20 am

A conservative appeals court just ruled against the federal gun law used to charge Hunter Biden

< https://www.businessinsider.com/appeals....-2023-9 >

law used to charge Biden was unconstitutional

Precedent...

Posted by Self-Banished on Sep. 16 2023,8:05 am

^^ so you’ll be able to go to the range baked, I see.

Seems the worthless POS son of Gropey is good for something.

Let’s not forget the IRS charges though :blush:

Posted by Self-Banished on Sep. 21 2023,6:55 am

I see why comrade Dick Whistle is so frightened

< https://youtu.be/YmyyEbvDgr8?si=SpO80DBxILx0ghF- >

Posted by Self-Banished on Sep. 22 2023,6:19 am

Posted by Self-Banished on Sep. 27 2023,5:25 am

Look comrade Dick Whistle, your favorite, on sale

< https://www.classicfirearms.com/hi-point-916g1yc-c9-8rd-gen-1-yc/ >

Posted by Self-Banished on Sep. 28 2023,5:28 am

Looks like Newsome won’t be running for president anytime soon

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Posted by Self-Banished on Sep. 29 2023,5:43 pm

Well now, I guess we don’t have to worry about this bullshit anymore, leastwise from her.

< https://youtu.be/Mj4AcjyuV38?si=DQ7G-F6Wj3MFyjk2 >

Posted by Self-Banished on Sep. 30 2023,10:48 am

Chicken shit potatohead

< https://youtube.com/shorts/hfO1clF4B6o?si=zF8Q7FUHrcCL57v_ >

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Sep. 30 2023,11:36 am

(Self-Banished @ Sep. 30 2023,10:48 am)

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Chicken shit potatohead

< https://youtube.com/shorts/hfO1clF4B6o?si=zF8Q7FUHrcCL57v_ >

Typical taxpayer parasite, human detritus.

Posted by Self-Banished on Oct. 10 2023,6:03 am

With all that’s happening in Israel there’s no wonder there’s a 2nd amendment here🧐

< https://youtu.be/mK6Y-Y8D5co?si=OZCuxZMJpvBN7I1B >

Posted by Self-Banished on Oct. 26 2023,6:51 am

Here we go with the next round of hand wringing 😒

< https://www.foxnews.com/us....-locked >

Posted by Expatriate on Oct. 26 2023,6:57 am

^^^ Another Trumper goes bad...

< https://heavy.com/news/robert-card/ >

Posted by Self-Banished on Oct. 26 2023,7:02 am

^^ oh my, are you advocating removing Trump supporters rights?

Like stroke lady?

< https://youtube.com/shorts/DH3SgIY7S5A?si=rtNMdZEp6iUNzloN >

Posted by Expatriate on Oct. 28 2023,6:46 am

^^^

Posted by Self-Banished on Oct. 28 2023,7:39 am

^^ do you wake up stupid or does it slowly kick in ?🤨

< https://youtu.be/ZTYjN1wPbYQ?si=HGOtR3cLNadKUDXQ >

Oh, by the way, those ar AR15s, in case a draft dodger like you needs to know. :oops:

Posted by Self-Banished on Oct. 31 2023,5:38 am

👍

Posted by Expatriate on Oct. 31 2023,5:42 am

^^^

Posted by Self-Banished on Oct. 31 2023,5:44 am

^^ like you do? :blush:

Posted by Expatriate on Nov. 03 2023,5:35 am

^^^

Posted by Self-Banished on Nov. 03 2023,6:52 am

^^ as if you even know how to operate a firearm :blush:

Posted by Expatriate on Nov. 03 2023,11:00 am

^^^^

Posted by Self-Banished on Nov. 03 2023,5:33 pm

^^ no buttons, just wondering why you hate America 🧐

Posted by Self-Banished on Nov. 12 2023,3:11 pm

Ah, the ungrateful :blush:

< https://youtu.be/onKO6sAN7F4?si=V40Rx4GxQWYQrKoa >

Posted by Self-Banished on Nov. 18 2023,6:54 am

< https://youtu.be/V6yNYS33178?si=VkKI_M6bCvM52PN5 >

Posted by Expatriate on Nov. 20 2023,8:32 am

^^^^^

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Nov. 20 2023,1:27 pm

^^^
Anti gunner's seem to be infatuated with a person's johnson, but I guess it makes sense, since all of them lack a spine and no balls and suffer from sand in vagina syndrome.

Posted by Expatriate on Nov. 20 2023,2:33 pm

^^^^

Posted by Self-Banished on Nov. 20 2023,4:13 pm

^^ yes, comrade Dick Whistle is infactuated with male genitalia :blush:

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Nov. 20 2023,8:24 pm

The only play anti gunners have are lame memes and appeal to emotions as they dance in blood, logic and constitutional understanding are an anthema to their under developed brains.

Posted by Expatriate on Nov. 21 2023,5:58 am

^^^

Posted by Self-Banished on Nov. 21 2023,6:38 pm

^^ and there we have it, lame :blush:

Posted by Expatriate on Nov. 22 2023,5:25 am

^^^
As of October 31, a total of 621 people have been killed and 2,126 other people have been injured in 520 shootings.

List of mass shootings in the United States in 2023
< https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki....in_2023 >

Posted by Self-Banished on Nov. 22 2023,6:52 am

^^ you are one dumb SOB :dunce:

< https://americanmilitarynews.com/2021....ts-show >

< https://www.politifact.com/factche....t-rifle >

Posted by Expatriate on Nov. 22 2023,7:02 am

^^^^

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Nov. 22 2023,10:20 am

520 mass shootings? :rofl:

no there hasn't. Quit peddling gun violence archive lies.
FYI wiki uses heavily padded bullshine stats from gva and gva is far from a valid source.

Posted by Expatriate on Nov. 23 2023,4:35 am

^^ As it takes four or more victims to make the list I'd say this list is fairly conservative..

The WIKI list is verifiable by date, location, State, number of victims and description of incident...

Posted by Self-Banished on Nov. 23 2023,5:34 am

^^ so when are you giving up your guns hypocrite.😲

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Nov. 23 2023,8:22 am

(Expatriate @ Nov. 23 2023,4:35 am)

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^^ As it takes four or more victims to make the list I'd say this list is fairly conservative..

The WIKI list is verifiable by date, location, State, number of victims and description of incident...

No.
There is no verification done by gva, gva pulls their data from media reports and social media, which said sources are terrible for initial data, gva also does not amend their initial findings when additional data becomes available.
gva is an anti gun propaganda group posing as a data aggregation group and has many times admitted to padding the stats to push for gun control.
Again, your wiki in this instance isn't a valid source. Current MCEs is 22 a far cry from 510.

Posted by Expatriate on Nov. 24 2023,4:47 am

^^ Each shooting in the description section has a reference number, by clicking the corresponding number it'll take you to the References where each shooting is verified...

Whatever your opinion is doesn't mean squat these shootings occurred!

< https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki....in_2023 >

Posted by Self-Banished on Nov. 24 2023,6:25 am

(Expatriate @ Nov. 24 2023,4:47 am)

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Try some punctuation numb nuts :oops:

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Nov. 24 2023,9:31 am

(Expatriate @ Nov. 24 2023,4:47 am)

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It does matter. Just because there are links doesn't make it true nor does those linked sources tell the full story.
For instance, the source you claiming includes the following:
Self-defense

Gang violence

Violence related to drugs

Contained residential or domestic disputes

Controlled barricade/hostage situations

Crossfire as a byproduct of another ongoing criminal act

An action that appeared not to have put other people in peril

Those instances are included to pad the stats and make it appear worse. It's dishonest and used to drive a political narrative of gun control.
As I have said before, the true current MCE is 22 so far for the year 2023.
Hell compare what you have against the FBI UCR.

Wiki, gva and the like are NOT vailid sources period.

Posted by Self-Banished on Nov. 26 2023,10:10 am

👍

Posted by Expatriate on Nov. 26 2023,12:39 pm

YOU CAN'T GET NO RE-ELECTION-

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Posted by Self-Banished on Nov. 26 2023,1:49 pm

^^ looks like your boyfriend🤣🤣🤣🤣

2nd amendment thread dipshit :oops:

Posted by Expatriate on Nov. 26 2023,1:56 pm

^^^who gives a fuck!!

Does this make you happy Fatso?

Posted by Self-Banished on Nov. 26 2023,2:18 pm

^^ and this is a thread about our 2nd amendment, probably need to see a shrink, soon.🧐

Posted by Self-Banished on Nov. 29 2023,6:12 pm

Looks like the pedocrats are being told to fuck off :blush:

< https://youtu.be/jMME8kCXN7s?si=AMzT06aUwtRs68SB >

< https://bearingarms.com/camedwa....-n77716 >

👍

Posted by Expatriate on Dec. 01 2023,5:00 am

Students For Trump Founder Arrested For Allegedly Hitting Girlfriend With Gun :dunce:

According to reports, one of the founders of the right wing group "Students for Trump" was arrested last week after he allegedly hit his girlfriend in the head with his pistol. Ryan Fournier was charged with two misdemeanor counts and will be appearing in front of a judge in early December. Fournier isn't the first founder of Students for Trump to be arrested, as the other co-founder was arrested several years ago for allegedly impersonating an attorney to bilk clients out of money. Ring of Fire's Farron Cousins explains what happened.

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Posted by Self-Banished on Dec. 01 2023,5:16 am

^^ because he was a Trump follower? :dunce:

is this the best you have to scrap the second amendment? :dunce:

Fuck tard
One who is incredibly stupid, beyond even that of a retard.

Many years ago, the average population of the fuck tard was thought to diminish over time due to the retarded fucking activities fuck tards often engage in (such as rolling a bowling ball down a slide into their testicles, potentially causing serious damage to them). However, this is not the case.

Through the invention of the internet (and websites such as youtube and 4chan), the fuck tard population has skyrocketed dramatically. Seeking fame among other fuck tards, many fuck tards will upload videos of themselves doing fucktarded things.

Other fuck tards may see these videos and decide to either 1.) recreate the fucktarded activity they had just seen or 2.) try to 1up the fuck tard for fuck tard street cred. The aforementioned fuck tard will also upload a video of himself engaging in whatever activity he decided upon.

In turn, this has lead to a shitstorm of fucktardation, the likes of which we have never before witnessed in history.
Lil fuck tard: Sup bromontana, you see that vid on youtube of that guy doing pull ups from that crane without any safety gear?

Fuck tard youngling: Yeah, it might be a good idea for us to try that ourselves

Posted by Expatriate on Dec. 01 2023,5:28 am

^^ Whoa Fatso is upset, that's his biggest cut and paste for months...

Do you pistol-whip your women too?

Posted by Self-Banished on Dec. 01 2023,6:18 am

Do you beat on Mrs Dick Whistle?

do you have basement boy pee on you?🤣🤣🤣🤣

Posted by Expatriate on Dec. 06 2023,7:01 am

^^^

The One Thing America Does “Better” Than EVERY other Country on Earth
This past weekend pushed America to the number one spot in a little known category of geopolitical achievements. But, don’t start celebrating just yet…!

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Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Dec. 06 2023,9:32 am

(Expatriate @ Dec. 06 2023,7:01 am)

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^^^

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630 MCE ? Yeah, NO.
It is now at 24.
Thom Hartmann is a hack and so is his source. Seriously gva?

Posted by Expatriate on Dec. 06 2023,3:49 pm

^^ Yeah sure ~~Archie~~ Louisiana bayou boy, all those shootings you're denying are documented...

Archie Bunker Gun Control

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Posted by Self-Banished on Dec. 06 2023,4:12 pm

^^ yeah, Norman Lear vision of GC🙄

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Dec. 06 2023,4:45 pm

(Expatriate @ Dec. 06 2023,3:49 pm)

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^^ Yeah sure ~~Archie~~ Louisiana bayou boy, all those shootings you're denying are documented...

Archie Bunker Gun Control

< View on YouTube >

We've gone over this many a times. gva pads their stats, their methodology is deceptive. It is a NON trustworthy source and has been thoroughly ripped apart by criminologists and statisticians.
Just because they are "documented" doesn't mean they are accurate.

Posted by Self-Banished on Dec. 06 2023,9:55 pm

Our own AG, I’m shocked :sarcasm:

< https://youtu.be/-EtJxF91-BE?si=d7Ssp_oVRcoxsnDz >

Does no one read the constitution? The bill of rights?

Posted by Expatriate on Dec. 07 2023,4:11 am

^^^

Posted by Self-Banished on Dec. 07 2023,4:58 am

^^ turn in your gun hypocrite

Posted by Self-Banished on Dec. 10 2023,9:19 am

< https://youtu.be/uciIJNfqc_I?si=RoKLpGiSrB-Jw-Hz >

This is on Gropey and the pedocrats, record crime is driving this.

Mpls is a good example, near 400 cops short of minimum strength.

I saw a car rip through a stop sign, and barely make it driving between me and another car Friday, all right in front of a Mpls squad. Nothing happened. :blush:

Posted by Self-Banished on Dec. 13 2023,7:53 am

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Posted by Self-Banished on Dec. 16 2023,6:22 am

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Posted by Self-Banished on Dec. 22 2023,3:28 pm

California ruling but our own governor Potatohead and cronies like to copy.

< https://youtu.be/Fyr0EKUwJ60?si=R5KfaOM0ErOlcppW >

Posted by Self-Banished on Dec. 29 2023,7:03 am

RIP😥

< https://youtu.be/yR1QX_VBgqw?si=PiU52IJsDjKNPXIh >

Posted by Self-Banished on Dec. 31 2023,7:40 am

It appears the gun owners of Illinois are telling the pedocrats to “fuck off”

< https://youtu.be/mFJ6W57JRkQ?si=xz4KGuPQWNAtMDyO >

What say you ‘o sucker of the lower appendages?

:blush:

Posted by Self-Banished on Jan. 01 2024,10:06 am

Happy New Year folks, especially the citizens of Illinois

< https://youtu.be/cYUqnGqt_5Q?si=cSeR1dq37Gx-nJgP >

Remember…

Posted by Expatriate on Jan. 03 2024,5:12 am

Posted by Self-Banished on Jan. 03 2024,5:18 am

^^ so lame.

So, you have no opinion of what’s going on with the 2nd?

Posted by Expatriate on Jan. 04 2024,11:15 am

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Posted by Self-Banished on Jan. 04 2024,5:18 pm

^^ that’s a British Sten, fires from an open bolt, 9mm.

Hogan’s Heroes, brings back memories for you sitting in Canada in the 60’s, don’t it?🫤

Posted by Self-Banished on Jan. 06 2024,6:54 am

Another Wayne bites the dust,

Another Wayne bites the dust

🤣🤣🤣🤣

< https://youtu.be/UZWioKoKIjA?si=4lvXFmna6eoKMPSP >

Posted by Expatriate on Jan. 07 2024,4:59 am

Nikki Haley's ABSURD Solution to Mass Shootings Includes Turning Schools Into Airports | Tim's Takes
Tim Miller reacts to Nikki Haley's proposed solutions to mass shootings in schools.

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Posted by Self-Banished on Jan. 07 2024,7:35 am

^^ she’s spot on with a few points but she’s a typical politician with word salad.

We have security at court houses, hospitals, why not guarding our most precious?

1 out of four with mental problems? Let’s see, myself, the boss, GD and comrade Dick Whistle.

Pretty obvious comrade Dick Whistle sports the brain malfunction?

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Jan. 07 2024,8:31 am

(Expatriate @ Jan. 07 2024,4:59 am)

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Nikki Haley's ABSURD Solution to Mass Shootings Includes Turning Schools Into Airports | Tim's Takes
Tim Miller reacts to Nikki Haley's proposed solutions to mass shootings in schools.

Well seeing as gun free zones has been such a rousing success /snark
Let teachers faculty and staff to be armed. All gun free zones accomplished was a target rich environment where a determined nutball knew full well everyone would be forcibly disarmed.

At the time of founding it was quite common for the adults to be armed and in some instances many locales had laws that required the carrying of arms of not only in schools but also churches.

In the grand scheme of things, such a law allowing the adult to carry in schools would satisfy the text, history and tradition as defined in Heller and Bruen.

Posted by Self-Banished on Jan. 07 2024,8:43 am

^^ I like the idea on armed school staff but all the teachers I know wouldn’t want to look at a gun, much less carry.

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Jan. 07 2024,8:47 am

(Self-Banished @ Jan. 07 2024,8:43 am)

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^^ I like the idea on armed school staff but all the teachers I know wouldn’t want to look at a gun, much less carry.

Completely voluntary but should be allowed.
Hell, even make it worth while. Encourage the carrying of arms and add a bonus to those who decide to carry along with those who continue force on force training.

Posted by Self-Banished on Jan. 07 2024,10:43 am

^^ I like the bonus idea, training too👍

Posted by Expatriate on Jan. 07 2024,11:42 am

(Grinning_Dragon @ Jan. 07 2024,8:31 am)

QUOTE

(Expatriate @ Jan. 07 2024,4:59 am)

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Nikki Haley's ABSURD Solution to Mass Shootings Includes Turning Schools Into Airports | Tim's Takes
Tim Miller reacts to Nikki Haley's proposed solutions to mass shootings in schools.

^^ Albert Lea has two School resource officer (SRO) these officers are regular cops paid by our taxes that work at the schools. These guys are a lot better trained in firearms than some teacher. You're talking a lot of liability giving teachers guns, I can see a lot of kids going down to friendly fire..

In Miller's video he makes some excellent points about school buildings and the difficulty securing such a building with all the windows and doors, auxiliary facilities and hundreds of kids coming and going at one time.

Blocking off the windows and chaining the doors, and arming rooky teachers is a recipe for disaster..

I've been to the Courthouse several times and I never make it through that metal detector no matter how much I put in that little tray, now imagine 300 kids or more lined-up to go through that detector or be late for class!

Don't get me wrong I'm all for keeping these kids safe, but SROs and Minnesota's gun laws are working..

Maybe if you RED STATE dwellers would spend the money to put SROs in schools and tighten up the gun laws you could protect your children too...

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Jan. 07 2024,12:56 pm

(Expatriate @ Jan. 07 2024,11:42 am)

QUOTE

(Grinning_Dragon @ Jan. 07 2024,8:31 am)

QUOTE

(Expatriate @ Jan. 07 2024,4:59 am)

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Nikki Haley's ABSURD Solution to Mass Shootings Includes Turning Schools Into Airports | Tim's Takes
Tim Miller reacts to Nikki Haley's proposed solutions to mass shootings in schools.

So your solution is to just rely on two armed people when a force multiplier could be implemented.

Are police officer really that better trained? Wearing an uniform and donning a tin badge does not an expert make and who's to say that people aren't going down by friendly fire by police?

As to MN laws working, well only to point that those who don't intend to harm are going to comply.
Police are used in schools around these parts.

Posted by Self-Banished on Jan. 07 2024,5:34 pm

On to defending our rights elsewhere.

< https://youtu.be/G88V-n51Ozo?si=zhnylRFHozqYrDnK >

Posted by Expatriate on Jan. 08 2024,3:46 am

GD Quote

QUOTE

So your solution is to just rely on two armed people when a force multiplier could be implemented.

'Too many cooks spoil the broth'

What you're proposing is the equivalent of a circular firing squad!

QUOTE

Are police officer really that better trained? Wearing an uniform and donning a tin badge does not an expert make and who's to say that people aren't going down by friendly fire by police?

With the number of school shootings I'd venture to say yes the police are training for this scenario. After the failure of the police response at Uvalde I'd say ALPD as well as police units across the country have picked up their game and have a new playbook.

I'm sure the school districts/teachers have some type of active shooter plan.

IMO it be best for them to lock classroom doors and wait for the cavalry...

Posted by Self-Banished on Jan. 08 2024,6:42 am

From NPR no less :blush:

< https://www.npr.org/2023....-longer >

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Jan. 08 2024,9:24 am

(Expatriate @ Jan. 08 2024,3:46 am)

QUOTE

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So your solution is to just rely on two armed people when a force multiplier could be implemented.

'Too many cooks spoil the broth'

What you're proposing is the equivalent of a circular firing squad!

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Are police officer really that better trained? Wearing an uniform and donning a tin badge does not an expert make and who's to say that people aren't going down by friendly fire by police?

Tired over used cliche isn't even relevant here.
What I am proposing is an acceptable risk, giving the adult(s) a chance to fight back against a shitbrick. Police cannot be everywhere nor can they be counted on being there in the nick of time when seconds count.

By saying that they should hunker down and just wait is nothing more than creating a target rich environment and is currently the status quo.
Face it, gun free zones are a failure, were designed to be a failure all in the name of illusionary safety. Instead of feeling safe actually give the tools that will enable being safe.

Posted by Expatriate on Jan. 11 2024,8:48 am

Posted by Self-Banished on Jan. 11 2024,4:20 pm

^^ glad he’s gone (but he probably won’t be)🤨

Posted by Self-Banished on Jan. 12 2024,2:38 pm

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Posted by Self-Banished on Jan. 15 2024,4:45 pm

I guess “fuck you” works🧐

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Posted by Self-Banished on Jan. 19 2024,4:00 pm

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Posted by Expatriate on Jan. 25 2024,4:12 am

New York man found guilty after killing woman who accidently turned into his driveway

Authorities say a 20-year-old woman on her way to a friend’s house in upstate New York was driven to the wrong address and quickly shot to death by the homeowner.

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Posted by Self-Banished on Jan. 25 2024,5:01 am

^^ will there be equal justice?🧐

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Posted by Expatriate on Jan. 25 2024,6:39 am

National Rifle Association's Judgement Day

SPECIAL REPORT: National Rifle Association's Judgement Day.
The National Rifle Association's Judgment Day is finally here! The New York State civil trial against the NRA pulls the curtain back and reveals gun lobby's horrible corruption. The shocking statistics of gun deaths in America since 1968 and how the NRA has played a role in shaping the country's gun laws. From racist dog whistles to outrageous lies about crime in America, discover the truth behind the NRA's murderous agenda. Exposing the NRA's dark financial secrets.

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Posted by Self-Banished on Jan. 25 2024,2:24 pm

^^ good, they’re about as corrupt as the pedocrat party.

Posted by Expatriate on Jan. 26 2024,3:09 am

^^^ On the contrary, they're all good Republicans, skilled at fraud and deception..

Wayne LaPierre turned the NRA into the real 'Wayne's World' he took you rubes to the cleaners!

Oliver North isn't much better....

Posted by Self-Banished on Jan. 26 2024,6:07 am

^^ I gave the NRA a chance 7-8 years ago, pretty much was worthless as it was before.

If you want an honest organization, join the JPFO.

As far as comrade Dick Whistle is concerned? Turn in your “yeet canon”🤣

Posted by Self-Banished on Jan. 30 2024,5:08 am

Oooooo, this looks fun😁

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Posted by Expatriate on Jan. 31 2024,9:18 am

The Head Of The National Rifle Association Is Terrified Of Guns/News January 31, 2024

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Posted by Self-Banished on Jan. 31 2024,6:22 pm

^^ nobody gives a shit about Wayne or Waynes 😲

Posted by Self-Banished on Feb. 07 2024,7:09 am

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Posted by Self-Banished on Feb. 10 2024,1:45 pm

😁😁

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Posted by Self-Banished on Feb. 12 2024,6:22 am

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Posted by Expatriate on Feb. 15 2024,9:09 am

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Feb. 15 2024,10:34 am

0 - Days since a gun grabber had an original thought or even remotely logical.

Posted by Self-Banished on Feb. 15 2024,5:07 pm

Here we go again

< https://www.lawofficer.com/minneso....irearms >

Fortunately, SCOTUS has been knocking down this stupidity, hopefully they continue.

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Feb. 15 2024,5:58 pm

(Self-Banished @ Feb. 15 2024,5:07 pm)

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Here we go again

< https://www.lawofficer.com/minneso....irearms >

Fortunately, SCOTUS has been knocking down this stupidity, hopefully they continue.

Dumb. Guess MN felt left out when other leftist shithole states have unconstitutionally banned common firearms, so they gotta get in on the infringements.

However, it does look like the 8th circuit is going to shoot down MN unconstitutional law barring 18-20yr olds from conceal carry.

Posted by Expatriate on Feb. 16 2024,4:19 am

(Grinning_Dragon @ Feb. 15 2024,10:34 am)

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0 - Days since a gun grabber had an original thought or even remotely logical.

WOW, 21 people get gunned down at a Kansas City Misery Superbowl event and we can't even get "thoughts and prayers" out of our Right-Wingers...

Lax to nonexistent gun laws in Missouri, hows that working out for Y'all Bayou Boi? CONSTITUTIONAL CARRY a pistol in every pocket!

There is no permit, background check or firearms registration required when buying a handgun from a private individual.

Open carry and concealed carry are legal in Missouri without a Concealed Carry Permit (CCP) for anyone 19 years or older..

850 good guys with guns (Cops) could protect the public..

Posted by Self-Banished on Feb. 16 2024,5:37 am

^^ Minneapolis police strength is a little more than half of what it should be, thankfully we have CCW (reminds me, I have to renew my “permission from the lords”)

Posted by Expatriate on Feb. 16 2024,5:44 am

^^ and in Minnesota we have LOCAL background checks on pistol and AR-15–style rifles...require classes before a carry permit is issued...

Lax gun laws in Red States have turned them into free fire zones...IMO

Posted by Self-Banished on Feb. 16 2024,6:34 am

^^ as I said, I have to get permission from the lords if I want to practice my constitutional rights, also my God given right to self defense.

Fairly convenient as of late, online test, go to the range for live fire.

How about you comrade Dick Whistle, have you figured which end the bullets come out of your “yeet”?

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Feb. 16 2024,10:24 am

[QUOTE=Expatriate]WOW, 21 people get gunned down at a Kansas City Misery Superbowl event and we can't even get "thoughts and prayers" out of our Right-Wingers...[/quote]
And?

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Lax to nonexistent gun laws in Missouri, hows that working out for Y'all Bayou Boi? CONSTITUTIONAL CARRY a pistol in every pocket!

Pretty sure that's how exercising an enumerated right works as rights do not require govt permission to exercise.

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There is no permit, background check or firearms registration required when buying a handgun from a private individual.

Good. Isn't any of the govts business in how private individuals lawfully conduct a transaction. Then there is the whole fact that such sales are codified within the FOPA86 Act.
Also within the FOPA86 Act; language was included to prohibit registries at the local, state and federal level. Registries only serve one purpose, eventual confiscation.

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Open carry and concealed carry are legal in Missouri without a Concealed Carry Permit (CCP) for anyone 19 years or older..

OK. And? Pretty sure that's the point of permit-less carry, not needing govt permission to exercise a negative right.

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850 good guys with guns (Cops) could protect the public..

Did you leave off a conjunctive 'nt?
While there was a police presence there, were near the area, not directly in the area.
Then there is the whole fact that there has been numerous supreme court rulings that have said the police have no duty to protect.

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Feb. 16 2024,10:30 am

(Expatriate @ Feb. 16 2024,5:44 am)

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Ahh the ol canard of "lax gun laws in red states" an often repeated lie by grabbers, while ignoring the inconvenient truth of states like california, illinois, et al.
Well if you drill down deep, you will notice the areas with the highest rates of crime committed with firearms are all in heavily controlled democrat cities.

Posted by Expatriate on Feb. 17 2024,3:45 am

@ GD
Yeah, I meant couldn't, isn't the motto of our police to protect and serve, but whatever, I understand what you're saying! But I'd think the court ruling you refer to is more about protecting law enforcement from liability.

The Second Amendment is probably one of the most debated Amendments.

Ratified December 15th 1791
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

What does well regulated mean, the only thing that separates well regulated is commas.

From 1994 to 2004 they had a ban on what they labeled Federal Assault Weapons Ban which ban manufacture for civilian use of certain semi-automatic firearms also as certain ammunition magazines that were defined as large capacity.

Some firearms were banned completely, other manufacturers skirted the law by dropping the Flash Deflector/Suppressor and the bayonet lug.The next time I fear it'll be a real ban!

Again, I'm not for any PROHIBITION or excessive regulation but a pistol in every pocket doesn't seem to be working out. We have to have regulation to preserve our Second Amendment rights.

We're actually on the same side, I'm just willing to except regulation.
We have to stop all this senseless slaughter.

As to my Red State comment I'll included Pew Research Center study of gun deaths, unfortunately they include suicides.

Maybe I'd want to kill myself too if I lived in a RED State..LOL

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Posted by Self-Banished on Feb. 17 2024,6:06 am

^^ yeah, punctuation means nothing in your world :dunce:

Regulated? Means showing up to defend your country with proper rifle, ball and powder.(not running off to Canada) :blush:

Maybe you want to kill yourself? Minnesota is currently considering an assisted suicide bill.

And on another note, I’m currently bidding on a piece of equipment with a backhoe, c’mon up comrade Dick Whistle, if I win, I’ll show it to you😁

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Feb. 17 2024,9:39 am

CastleRock, Warren etc. are all cases where the holding in the supreme court held that there is no constitutional obligation that police have to protect the public and held that the role of police is protection of govt interests.

"A well regulated militia being necessary to a free state, " this inclusion in the prefatory clause is about being ready, equipped when called up for muster. Since the people were to bring their own musket, ball and powder.
Further explained in the Militia Act of 1792. The prefatory has no holding or bearing on the objective right it self which belongs to the people.

94AWB, facially and as applied was unconstitutional, just because the supreme court never took on a challenge of said unconstitutional law doesn't mean the supreme court was in agreement.
In 2008, the holding in Heller(handguns) ruled that firearms in possession for common lawful purposes cannot be banned and that it is the people who decide what is common use and not the govt, further in Heller Scailia also held that arms that it might be possible to ban certain arms if they were deemed "dangerous and unusual". Notice the usage of "possible" and the "and".

So in other words in Heller, commonly possessed arms cannot be banned and the test to determine the ability to ban is based on the conjunctive test of "dangerous and unusual"
AR/AK/MCX, etc. type arms are very in common use since there are millions of these arms in possession by the people, so those arms do no meet the "unusual" portion of the test "dangerous and unusual"

Bruen, which is Heller 2.0 and cites Heller in the ruling 34 times further explained Heller that it is govts burden of proof to justify a modern day ban in using historical analogs from the time of founding and that correct time period is 1791.

Constitutional rights are not subject to polling data and shows desperation in an attempt to interest balance a negative enumerated right, when said enumerated right is already an interest balance.

However
States that have adopted permit-less carry have seen a drop in crimes in the 6%-10%+ range in the more populated cities, the often cried out of "wild west" just isn't bearing out. As I've said before, democrat controlled cities are where the highest homicide rate is going to occur, so it's disingenuous to assume because it's a "red" state it must be because of "lax firearm laws".
What is also missing from such polling nonsense is the number of times a year crimes are prevented by an estimated 2.5million times a year. The positive uses of personally carried arms dwarfs the criminally misused.

Sorry but stating, "I am for the 2nd Amendment, but..." puts you into the fudd gun grabber category.

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A principal source of errors and injustice are false ideas of utility. For example: that legislator has false ideas of utility who considers particular more than general conveniences, who had rather command the sentiments of mankind than excite them, who dares say to reason, "Be thou a slave;" who would sacrifice a thousand real advantages to the fear of an imaginary or trifling inconvenience; who would deprive men of the use of fire for fear of their being burnt, and of water for fear of their being drowned; and who knows of no means of preventing evil but by destroying it.
The laws of this nature are those which forbid to wear arms, disarming those only who are not disposed to commit the crime which the laws mean to prevent. Can it be supposed, that those who have the courage to violate the most sacred laws of humanity, and the most important of the code, will respect the less considerable and arbitrary injunctions, the violation of which is so easy, and of so little comparative importance? Does not the execution of this law deprive the subject of that personal liberty, so dear to mankind and to the wise legislator? and does it not subject the innocent to all the disagreeable circumstances that should only fall on the guilty? It certainly makes the situation of the assaulted worse, and of the assailants better, and rather encourages than prevents murder, as it requires less courage to attack unarmed than armed persons.

- Ceasare Beccaria

The passage above from his "On Crimes and Punishment" published in 1764, heavily influenced the language during drafting of the 2nd Amendment, combined with lessons learned from King Alfred circa 600AD along with the writings of Blackstone's "Rights of Englishmen" and the importance of an armed populace.

Posted by Self-Banished on Feb. 17 2024,12:37 pm

^^ thanks GD, for all you do👍

Meanwhile, in Minnesota

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Pretty much they want to ban everything.

Posted by Self-Banished on Feb. 20 2024,7:18 pm

Illinois folks seem to have the right idea👍

< https://youtu.be/3m6PkY3qVus?si=KhobxQpaWneUUx3u >

If Minnesota passes the same law…?

Posted by Expatriate on Feb. 27 2024,5:47 am

NRA CEO Hit With $5.4 Million Fraud Verdict

The former CEO of the National Rifle Association, Wayne LaPierre, was found liable of fraud and ordered to pay over five million dollars, and the NRA, as an organization, was also found liable of committing crimes.

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Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Feb. 27 2024,8:53 am

That woman is an idiot, goes off on a tangent that had nothing to do with the facts of the case and just rattled off BS interest balancing nonsense.
So the verdict was, wlp and wilson phillips have to pay back a lil over 6mil combined to the nra and there maybe an overseer appointed by the court.

The other thing, the nra hasn't really been a big player for quite a few decades, after all they have been called Negotiating Rights Away for a long time now.

The new big dog(s) is currently the SAF and the NSSF, followed up by GOA, FPC and NAGR.

Quite telling when certain youtube biological mistakes are omitting the outcome of the trial.

Posted by Expatriate on Feb. 27 2024,10:37 am

^^ I Bet you had a NRA LIFE MEMBERSHIP didn't you GD..

NRA found liable in corruption case as jury says longtime leader Wayne LaPierre should repay $4.3 million

< https://www.cnn.com/2024....ex.html >

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Feb. 27 2024,12:55 pm

(Expatriate @ Feb. 27 2024,10:37 am)

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No. But I was a member until the passage of the unconstitutional awb 94, switched over to GOA and recently added FPC.

Also to note. Tomorrow, oral arguments begin at the supreme court in Cargil v. batfe(arbf)

Posted by Self-Banished on Feb. 28 2024,5:32 am

^^
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Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 03 2024,6:43 pm

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Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 06 2024,5:53 pm

Just say no.

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Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 18 2024,11:20 pm

Jason Beck🧐

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I wonder if he steals luggage from the airport?

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 03 2024,6:52 am

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Rally at the capital 4/27, plan to attend👍

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 18 2024,4:54 am

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Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 27 2024,7:43 am

Typical politician, can’t bowe out :blush: