Forum: Opinion
Topic: Hilary Clinton
started by: Self-Banished

Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 24 2014,3:25 am
This crock of sh!t has been amusing me for days now :D

< http://www.cbsnews.com/news...ell-off >

Posted by MADDOG on Jun. 24 2014,9:09 am
It's even better than this?  < Blood Feud: The Clintons vs. the Obamas >

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The simmering cauldron of hatred that exists between the Obamas and the Clintons threatens to explode in a volcanic eruption that could threaten all Democrat chances in 2016, says a sensational new book.


Despite their much-vaunted public truce, journalist Edward Klein claims in 'Blood Feud' that Bill Clinton despises President Obama and that Michelle refers to Hillary behind closed doors as the 'Hildebeest'.

The animosity between the Democratic Party's two power couples has reached such intensity that Klein says the president is willing to renege on his promise to endorse Hillary for 2016 and has teased the Clintons with suggestions that Michelle would be a strong candidate for the Oval Office.


Dating back to then Senator Obama's defeat of Hillary Clinton for the 2008 Democratic nomination they believed was theirs, Bill has never forgiven Obama for allegations he made during that bitter campaign.


'I hate that man Obama more than any man I've ever met, more than any man who ever lived,' said Bill Clinton to a friend after Obama suggested he was a racist in 2008 according to Klein's book

< Daily Mail >

Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 25 2014,4:52 am
I was listening to an interview with Klein yesterday, I thought it funny that Valerie Jared and the first wide-ass's nick name for Hilary is Hildebeast. :rofl:
Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 25 2014,5:12 am
...and another :rofl:

< http://www.bizpacreview.com/2014...-124387 >

Posted by Botto 82 on Jun. 25 2014,5:20 am
The Obamunists on the board will gleefully vote for her, though... :crazy:
Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 25 2014,6:17 pm
Guess who said the following quotes??


1) "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."
A. Karl Marx B. Adolph Hitler
​ ​
C. Joseph Stalin
D. Barack Obama E. None of the above

2) "It's time for a new beginning, for an end to government of the few, by the few, and for the few... And to replace it with shared responsibility, for shared prosperity."
A. Lenin B. Mussolini C. Idi Amin
D. Barack Obama E. None of the above

3) "(We)....can't just let business as usual go on, and that means something has to be taken away from some people."
A. Nikita Khrushev B. Joseph Goebbels
C. Boris Yeltsin D. Barack Obama
E. None of the above

4) "We have to build a political consensus and that requires people to give up a little bit of their own ... in order to create this common ground."
A. Mao Tse Tung B. Hugo Chavez
C. Kim Jong II D. Barack Obama
​ ​
E. None of the above

5) "I certainly think the free-market has failed."
A. Karl Marx B. Lenin C. Molotov
D. Barack Obama E. None of the above

6) "I think it's time to send a clear message to what has become the most profitable sector in (the) entire economy that they are being watched."
A. Pinochet B. Milosevic C. Saddam Hussein
D. Barack Obama E. None of the above

Answers and dates:






(1) E. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/29/2004

(2) E. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 5/29/2007

(3) E. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/4/2007

(4) E. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/4/2007

(5 ) E None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/4/2007

(6). E. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 9/2/2005

**** Want to know something scary? She may be the next president

Posted by grassman on Jun. 26 2014,6:30 am
As far as number two goes, I think if you check your past posts, you agree. :thumbsup:
Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 26 2014,8:43 am

(grassman @ Jun. 26 2014,6:30 am)
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As far as number two goes, I think if you check your past posts, you agree. :thumbsup:

Shared responsibility? Shared resources? Me?
I'll be responsible for myself and keep the fruits of my own prosperity thankyou.

Geez, sounds like some union bullsh!t

Posted by irisheyes on Jun. 26 2014,6:19 pm

(Self-Banished @ Jun. 25 2014,6:17 pm)
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Guess who said the following quotes??

More forwarded emails?  I guess you've thrown out legitimate sources of information entirely.  < Snopes.com  'Marxist' Quotes >

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Shared responsibility? Shared resources? Me?
I'll be responsible for myself and keep the fruits of my own prosperity thankyou.

On the subject of prosperity I'd rather take the advice of people like Warren Buffet, Bill Gates, and Jim Sinegal rather than plumbers and truck drivers.  All the names I mentioned started out from scratch and worked their way up, usually they end up somewhat liberal or simply moderate politically.  They give back to their community and when April 15th comes they don't think they should pay a lower rate than their employees.

People like Trump, Koch, Murdoch, and Romney were all born with a silver spoon; wealthy Republicans are often millionaires from birth.  But they have the economic outlook of Leonna Helmsley, just pass the bill to the "little people".   :(

Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 26 2014,7:56 pm

(irisheyes @ Jun. 26 2014,6:19 pm)
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On the subject of prosperity I'd rather take the advice of people like Warren Buffet, Bill Gates, and Jim Sinegal rather than plumbers and truck drivers.  All the names I mentioned started out from scratch and worked their way up, usually they end up somewhat liberal or simply moderate politically.  They give back to their community and when April 15th comes they don't think they should pay a lower rate than their employees.

My my, I love the example of Warren Buffet, contributes heavily to democrat candidates and obama who stonewall on the pipeline from Canada while his railroad makes a fortune hauling crude from there. Advice for you??? This is free, " don't quit your day job" I do quite well for myself and I assure you, I give till it hurts on 4/15. (Actually 4times a year)

Posted by grassman on Jun. 26 2014,9:23 pm
I give till it hurts four times a year as well, tell me again how that pipeline would help my pain!   :O Now they change the law on exporting crude, what's in it for the People of America?! NOT A DAMN THING!!!!!!!!! STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 27 2014,3:16 am
Pay attention now, more supply, less demand, prices lower. Now, is that so hard to understand?
Progressives seem to think that these resources belong to "the people" no they don't('least not yet) are you getting this? Do you understand? Or do I have to break out the crayons?
We have emerging economies coming online in the world, China, India, etc. we have South American countries dumping their garbage across our border and we do nothing about it.
And the big thing, with all this spending, with all the hair-brain policies, we are broke. The whole country is heading the way of Calfornia, Illinois, then who bails us out?
We need to get back to producing, a manufacturing base. We have it all, raw materials, a labor pool, the energy to run. Policies need to change.

But then again we can always be like Venezuela. :(

Posted by pepi-lapew on Jul. 01 2014,1:53 pm
I see I.E didnt mention the demarats that are rich. Like G. Soros and a few others.
Posted by Botto 82 on Jul. 02 2014,6:32 am

(Self-Banished @ Jun. 27 2014,3:16 am)
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We need to get back to producing, a manufacturing base. We have it all, raw materials, a labor pool, the energy to run. Policies need to change.

I thought you were the one to so quickly point out that it's a global economy, now. You can't have it both ways, Buttercup...
Posted by MADDOG on Jul. 02 2014,8:27 am
It is a global economy and we have to be a competitive manufacturing country.  The world is passing us by as we sit back and watch it happen.  We have to
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get back to producing, a manufacturing base. We have it all, raw materials, a labor pool, the energy to run.

Posted by Self-Banished on Jul. 02 2014,9:22 am

(Botto 82 @ Jul. 02 2014,6:32 am)
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(Self-Banished @ Jun. 27 2014,3:16 am)
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We need to get back to producing, a manufacturing base. We have it all, raw materials, a labor pool, the energy to run. Policies need to change.

I thought you were the one to so quickly point out that it's a global economy, now. You can't have it both ways, Buttercup...

It is a global economy but it'd be nice for our country to participate.
Don't forget that "Buttercup"

Posted by alcitizens on Jul. 02 2014,5:36 pm
America has secured its status as the world's most powerful economy, a position it is expected to hold for the next decade.

< http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance...2433430 >

Posted by MADDOG on Jul. 02 2014,5:43 pm
I see that.  We are quite< financially free >.
Posted by Self-Banished on Jul. 02 2014,7:16 pm

(alcitizens @ Jul. 02 2014,5:36 pm)
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America has secured its status as the world's most powerful economy, a position it is expected to hold for the next decade.

< http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance...2433430 >

So proud of our country aren't you?

Posted by alcitizens on Jul. 03 2014,8:52 pm
Dow Jones Industrial tops 17,000.. The U.S. economy added 288,000 jobs in June..

I have always been a proud American..

Bush nearly destroyed this country..

Posted by Self-Banished on Jul. 04 2014,4:15 am
^^^288K, after 5.5 years, hopefully it'll continue. We still have only a 62% partisipation rate and with 1st quarter GDP of negative 2.9... We'll see I guess. :(
Posted by Glad I Left on Jul. 04 2014,10:36 am

(alcitizens @ Jul. 03 2014,8:52 pm)
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Dow Jones Industrial tops 17,000.. The U.S. economy added 288,000 jobs in June..

I have always been a proud American..

Bush nearly destroyed this country..

The DOW was at record highs during W's tenure too, and we all know he is still in the top 5 of worse presidents too.
The level of the DOW doesn't make a president a good or bad one.

Posted by Common Citizen on Jul. 04 2014,10:59 am

(alcitizens @ Jul. 03 2014,8:52 pm)
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Dow Jones Industrial tops 17,000.. The U.S. economy added 288,000 jobs in June..

I have always been a proud American..

Bush nearly destroyed this country..

A record 92,000,000+ Americans do not have a job and are not even looking for one.  And a record 47,000,000+ people on food stamps.

Guess you conveniently forgot that statistic just like the POTUS did when he conducted his press conference yesterday.

Good job!  :clap:

Posted by Self-Banished on Jul. 04 2014,6:27 pm
^^^ Points that are so true :notworthy:
Posted by Rosalind_Swenson on Jul. 05 2014,10:08 am
Too bad the economic strength of America is concentrated with so few of us. 95% of income gains since 2009 have gone to the top 1%.
As far as the unemployed goes. In 2007 there were almost 7 unemployed people for every available job. Right now there are almost 3 unemployed for every available job. So I guess that's a bit of progress. And since the unemployed far outnumber the jobs, are so many people really just lazy slobs who don't want to work?

Posted by Self-Banished on Jul. 05 2014,10:47 am
^^^where are you pulling your info from Roz?
Posted by Rosalind_Swenson on Jul. 05 2014,11:03 am

(Self-Banished @ Jul. 05 2014,10:47 am)
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^^^where are you pulling your info from Roz?

95% of income gains went to 1%:
< http://www.c-span.org/video...lagarde >

The information is about 10 minutes into her speech. I shared this link with a couple of people in here yesterday because of the bizarre beginning of her speech. Just listen to the first few minutes of her talk before skipping to 10 minutes. Does the managing director of the IMF really believe in Numerology??! So strange lol.




Jobs and Unemployed:
< http://www.bls.gov/jlt/jlt_labstatgraphs_March2014.pdf >


I hope you and your family are having a great holiday weekend SB. I'm thinking of moving to Antarctica to escape all these freakin skeeters.

Posted by Self-Banished on Jul. 05 2014,1:21 pm

(Rosalind_Swenson @ Jul. 05 2014,10:08 am)
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And since the unemployed far outnumber the jobs, are so many people really just lazy slobs who don't want to work?

With 99 weeks of unemployment there's probably lots of lazy slobs.
Posted by Rosalind_Swenson on Jul. 05 2014,2:44 pm

(Self-Banished @ Jul. 05 2014,1:21 pm)
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(Rosalind_Swenson @ Jul. 05 2014,10:08 am)
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And since the unemployed far outnumber the jobs, are so many people really just lazy slobs who don't want to work?

With 99 weeks of unemployment there's probably lots of lazy slobs.

And if the unemployment benefits time was shorter? There would still be too many unemployed for the amount of jobs available. I'm not sure if the BLS counted just people currently on unemployment, or if they also counted the people who are no longer on unemployment but not working. If they only counted the people currently on unemployment, then that means there are even more people for each available job.
I'm assuming since 95% of the income gains since 2009 have gone to the top 1%, that's probably a big reason so many people are getting food stamps? And how quickly are prices for everything rising? The taste of beef is just a fond memory for some of us!! When I go to the grocery store I spend a few minutes staring longingly at the beef section! I've even had a few dreams about big juicy steaks  :(   Oh well, chicken is healthier anyway lol.

Posted by Self-Banished on Jul. 05 2014,3:56 pm
^^^and as more people switch to chicken, the price for it will rise.

I'm thinking of having a few bunnies in the backyard, the city says I can only have "pets" I predict Fluffy will die of self inflicted injuries. :D

Posted by Rosalind_Swenson on Jul. 05 2014,6:47 pm

(Self-Banished @ Jul. 05 2014,3:56 pm)
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^^^and as more people switch to chicken, the price for it will rise.

I'm thinking of having a few bunnies in the backyard, the city says I can only have "pets" I predict Fluffy will die of self inflicted injuries. :D

I reckon it already has driven up the price. I stock up the freezer when chicken breast and thighs are on sale at Nelson's and HyVee for $0.99/lb. I load up on the giant pork loins when they are under $2.00/lb. It usually lasts until the next time it's on sale for those prices. I load up on everything when it's on sale. I find the prices of everything shocking though at the usual prices. The suckiest part of that is I'm sure some of the meat I buy is from big corporate farms. I prefer buying from small local locker plants, unfortunately I could never afford to buy all my meat there. Produce is so expensive we could never become vegetarian (besides we love meat), and I just moved from the biggest yard ever, to absolutely no yard, so no garden, no canning.
Aww, poor Fluffy! When I was a kid,in Blooming Prairie, my best friend's father raised rabbits in his back yard, butchered and sold them. I'm pretty sure that's not legal anymore. If you do decide to raise rabbits I will gladly "donate" money to replace a rabbit that died of self-inflicted wounds, and I like you SO much, that I will even take the dead one off your hands so you don't have to deal with the burial.  :;):
Did you watch that documentary "Farmageddon" yet? It's pretty insane what is happening to people on small nice farms. Why do you think those things are occurring?
And now several states have made it illegal to film the abuses and filth of industrial farms. I'd like to see the USDA go in and raid some of these big corporate farms like they have smaller ones. It will never happen.

Posted by Self-Banished on Jul. 05 2014,7:17 pm
^^I'm lucky living in the cities, in the summer I go to the farmers market in Mpls where a 20 dollar bill can buy veggies for all week. Then to stretch the dollar more I go to the Asian markets. Food there is fresh and of superior quality to the grocery chains.

Nothing like the Hmong version of chittlin's. Yummy!

Posted by Self-Banished on Jul. 05 2014,7:21 pm
I love this,
< http://www.nhregister.com/opinion...-speech >

Kids have a tough enough time with tuition and along comes this pig.

Posted by Marneman on Jul. 06 2014,2:15 am
First we had Bill Clinton, and at the end of his second term we said the next president will be better.  But then we got George Bush, and at the end of his second term we said the next president has got to be better?  Wrong we got Barrak Obama, and as we approach the end of his second term we are wondering what now.  Well I know one thing is that the last thing we need is another Clinton in office, or another Bush for that matter.  We will either elect another idiot who will drag this country down even further or hopefully someone who can  fix things (believe me I have no idea who that could be).  I feel sorry for that president because to fix thing he will make himself (or herself) so unpopular that they will only serve one term in office,  but fifty years down the road they will be remembered as a good president.
Posted by Botto 82 on Jul. 08 2014,3:22 am
None of the die-hard liberals on the board will come on and openly defend Hillary, even though we all know full well they'd vote for her in a heartbeat. Now that's truly pathetic.  :frusty:
Posted by MADDOG on Jul. 08 2014,8:07 am

(Botto 82 @ Jul. 08 2014,3:22 am)
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None of the die-hard liberals on the board will come on and openly defend Hillary, even though we all know full well they'd vote for her in a heartbeat. Now that's truly pathetic.  :frusty:

Heck (ll) the die hard liberals don't even come on here much to defend our liar in chief much anymore.  You have to read the local letters to the editor to get a nut jobs l-winger perspective from W.T.

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First we had Bill Clinton, and at the end of his second term we said the next president will be better.  But then we got George Bush, and at the end of his second term we said the next president has got to be better?  Wrong we got Barrak Obama, and as we approach the end of his second term we are wondering what now.


It can't possibly get any worse than the current resident law breaker of the White House.

Posted by Self-Banished on Jul. 08 2014,1:08 pm

(MADDOG @ Jul. 08 2014,8:07 am)
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 You have to read the local letters to the editor to get a nut jobs l-winger perspective from W.T.

Hey, hey, hey, be careful there, I' a big fan of WT. funny as hell. :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:

Dumb as a box of rocks :dunce:

Posted by Liberal on Jul. 08 2014,2:51 pm
No, the liberals just laugh at you kooks. As a group things are pretty good for us liberals, how are things working out for you kooks?

As far as defending our future president we have nothing to worry about.  

< http://www.politico.com/story...45.html >

Posted by Botto 82 on Jul. 08 2014,5:18 pm

(Liberal @ Jul. 08 2014,2:51 pm)
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No, the liberals just laugh at you kooks. As a group things are pretty good for us liberals, how are things working out for you kooks?

As far as defending our future president we have nothing to worry about.

If you're planning on voting for Hillary, you should really watch using ad hominems like "kook", as you've just taken kookiness to the next level.  :crazy:
Posted by Liberal on Jul. 08 2014,5:29 pm
Let me guess, she's responsible for some terrible conspiracy theory and anyone who can't see that would have to be crazy?

Here's a good article on what's wrong with you.

< http://mobile.nytimes.com/2013...ll&_r=0 >

Posted by Botto 82 on Jul. 08 2014,6:50 pm

(Liberal @ Jul. 08 2014,5:29 pm)
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Let me guess, she's responsible for some terrible conspiracy theory and anyone who can't see that would have to be crazy?

Here's a good article on what's wrong with you.

< http://mobile.nytimes.com/2013...ll&_r=0 >

You funny man, Dr. Jones...  :D Assumption leads to Straw Man Argument. Film at 11.

No, nothing so dramatic. I simply think she's a self-serving career politician that will do nothing remotely beneficial to the American people, and we have quite enough of that in Washington as it is.

Posted by alcitizens on Jul. 09 2014,3:58 am
Most people watching this forum realize that President Obama has done more for this country than Bush ever did..

Republicans in congress have proven that they'll take down the whole country in the hopes that they'll one day take full power of the United States.. Sick mutha fockers..  :crazy:

Posted by Self-Banished on Jul. 09 2014,5:28 am

(Liberal @ Jul. 08 2014,2:51 pm)
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As far as defending our future president we have nothing to worry about.  

Maybe,
Posted by Self-Banished on Jul. 09 2014,5:31 am

(Liberal @ Jul. 08 2014,2:51 pm)
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As far as defending our future president we have nothing to worry about.  



Maybe not? Bummer is rumored to want to endorse this witch.

Posted by Self-Banished on Jul. 09 2014,5:34 am
Hilary also has this little turd to deal with,

< http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs...28.html >

A stalwart defender of women :sarcasm:

Posted by Self-Banished on Jul. 09 2014,5:57 am

(alcitizens @ Jul. 09 2014,3:58 am)
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Most people watching this forum realize that President Obama has done more for this country than Bush ever did..

Yep, far more damage.
Posted by MADDOG on Jul. 09 2014,9:15 am

(alcitizens @ Jul. 09 2014,3:58 am)
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Most people watching this forum realize that President Obama has done more for this country than Bush ever did..

He was also first at many things.

He was the first president to:

-force American citizens to buy a product from a third party.

-hide his birth certificate

-hide his education records.

-hide his medical records.

-tell a CEO of a corporation to resign.

-negotiate with terrorists.

-hire tax paid personal servants for the first lady wife.

-file lawsuits against individual states.

He was the first to

-cancel the National Day of Prayer

-tell our military personnel to pay for their own private health insurance.

-tell a major manufacturer what state they can locate.

-declare a constitutional law unconstitutional and refuse to enforce it.

-first to have sheep vote for him

-bypass Congress and implement Dream Act (which is causing a huge fiasco right now.

-violate War Power Act.

-first president in office to have this nations credit rating cut.

-first president to have a social security number from a state he's never lived.

-first president to apply for college aid as a foreign student then deny he was a foreigner.

Plenty of firsts.  Wanna hear what he's the best at?  :rofl:

Posted by Self-Banished on Jul. 09 2014,10:47 am
Try this for a so ering read...

< http://rt.com/usa/166352-us-total-debt-sixty-trillion/ >

Kinda tightens the winkie doesn't it? :(

Posted by Botto 82 on Jul. 09 2014,11:03 am
^^From your article...

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“In 50 short years, debt has gone from being a luxury for a few to a convenience for many to an addiction for most to a disease for all,” James Butler wrote in an Independent Voters Network (IVN) op-ed. “It is a virus that has spread to every aspect of our economy, from a consumer using a credit card to buy a $0.75 candy bar in a vending machine to a government borrowing $17 trillion to keep the lights on.”


Um...

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“It is actually not in the least surprising that nations are chronically in debt, governments have inadequate public resources, public services are underfunded and people are beset by mortgages and overdrafts.  The reason for all this monetary scarcity and insolvency is that the financial system used by all national economies worldwide is actually founded on debt.  To be direct and precise, modern money is created in parallel with debt.” Michael Rowbotham, The Grip of Death (1988)< Understanding the Debt-Based Economy >


Or am I just guilty of perpetuating yet another conspiracy theory..? :sarcasm:

Posted by MADDOG on Jul. 09 2014,11:15 am

(Self-Banished @ Jul. 08 2014,1:08 pm)
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(MADDOG @ Jul. 08 2014,8:07 am)
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 You have to read the local letters to the editor to get a nut jobs l-winger perspective from W.T.

Hey, hey, hey, be careful there, I' a big fan of WT. funny as hell. :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:

Dumb as a box of rocks :dunce:

They ought to frame his picture and put it on the wall as the dumification of the English language, common sense and the liberal party.  

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I think it is terrible the way big money is getting to the pockets of our politicians. It is so obvious that this is what happened. Why did this issue come up now? Not until Obamacare did this type of situation rear its ugly head.

go to your computer and look up Albert Lea Tribune and go on letters to the editor. Look for the articles that have the most comments.   They are all mine.

If my letters didn’t make so much sense, they wouldn’t comment on them.

< WT >

Posted by Self-Banished on Jul. 09 2014,11:33 am
^^^kinda fond of himself isn't he?
Posted by Botto 82 on Jul. 09 2014,12:08 pm

(MADDOG @ Jul. 09 2014,11:15 am)
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They ought to frame his picture and put it on the wall as the dumification of the English language, common sense and the liberal party.  

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I think it is terrible the way big money is getting to the pockets of our politicians. It is so obvious that this is what happened. Why did this issue come up now? Not until Obamacare did this type of situation rear its ugly head.

go to your computer and look up Albert Lea Tribune and go on letters to the editor. Look for the articles that have the most comments.   They are all mine.

If my letters didn’t make so much sense, they wouldn’t comment on them.

< WT >

Yet we get called kooks...  :p
Posted by Self-Banished on Jul. 09 2014,12:21 pm
"If my letters didn’t make so much sense, they wouldn’t comment on them. You will notice they blast the messenger and not the message. I love it. I can’t think of another place I would choose to be this popular."
(WT from fish wrap letter)

Wow. He really is fond of himself :rofl:

Posted by Liberal on Jul. 09 2014,12:46 pm
WT letters are pretty much the only thing I read in the Tribune. I thought it was hilarious how that right wing kook kept whining to him about an apology.

Best part about his letters is he seems to make all the republitard posters look like a bunch of talk radio/fox news kooks.

Posted by MADDOG on Jul. 09 2014,2:24 pm
Maybe you could pitch in and help him on his grammar and sentence structure?  :p
Posted by Self-Banished on Jul. 09 2014,2:36 pm
^^^yes, he  could definitely make use of spell check :thumbsup:
Posted by Glad I Left on Jul. 10 2014,12:13 pm
If he spells wrong with an E at the end again I'm gonna cringe. The spelling/grammar Nazi in me does not approve!!
Posted by MADDOG on Sep. 05 2014,7:42 pm
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< Forget ISIS, Hillary Says Climate Change is World's Greatest Threat >

At the National Clean Energy Summit, Hillary Clinton said climate change was the greatest threat facing the world. Apparently she's not been keeping up on world events and forgot about ISIS, Al Qaeda, Ukraine, Egypt, Hamas, just to name a few. From Politico (bold added):

At Sen. Harry Reid’s National Clean Energy Summit, Clinton called climate change “the most consequential, urgent, sweeping collection of challenges we face as a nation and a world.”


Sounds like she's more out of touch with world affairs than the Ponderer in Chief.   :crazy:

Posted by Liberal on Sep. 05 2014,10:35 pm
Which of those things are a threat to the world?
Posted by Botto 82 on Sep. 06 2014,2:48 am

(Liberal @ Sep. 05 2014,10:35 pm)
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Which of those things are a threat to the world?

I'd say a real threat to the world are morons, ones who still proudly display their Hope and Change bumper stickers, that think for a second that it's a good idea to put this post-menopausal nutjob in the Oval, given the failed experiments of the last four Presidential terms.
Posted by Self-Banished on Sep. 06 2014,4:51 am

(Botto 82 @ Sep. 06 2014,2:48 am)
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...given the failed experiments of the last four Presidential terms.

Has kind of sucked big time hasn't it?
Posted by MADDOG on Sep. 06 2014,5:54 am

(Botto 82 @ Sep. 06 2014,2:48 am)
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I'd say a real threat to the world are morons, ones who still proudly display their Hope and Change bumper stickers,

:rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  Oh God, I can't stop!  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:
Posted by Self-Banished on Sep. 06 2014,7:40 am
This was interesting to watch last night..

< http://www.foxnews.com/on-air...e-story >

Posted by Liberal on Sep. 06 2014,10:51 am
What failed experiments?

I'm pretty sure you said the same stuff about the last administration, and I'd guess you'll say it about Hillary's.  It's why you don't vote, you want to be able to start posting crap about the administration as soon as public opinion turns so you look prescient.

The only fault I have with Obama is that he didn't do enough, and was gullible enough to believe the GOP/TEA/FOX party would ever work with the Democrats.

Posted by MADDOG on Sep. 06 2014,11:03 am
Botto hits nerve.

 

Posted by pepi-lapew on Sep. 13 2014,8:13 am
I dont think you can work with a DEMARATE Its there  way or the highway. They dont want to work with them selves some times!
Posted by MADDOG on Sep. 13 2014,8:50 am

(pepi-lapew @ Sep. 13 2014,8:13 am)
QUOTE
I dont think you can work with a DEMARATE Its there  way or the highway. They dont want to work with them selves some times!

It's that way with many.  Party affiliation has nothing to do with it.
Posted by Self-Banished on Sep. 16 2014,7:06 am
Just doesn't seem to end doesn't it?

< http://nypost.com/2014...fficial >

Posted by Liberal on Sep. 16 2014,7:38 am
Wow, Rupert  Murdoch's tabloid has found a new smoking gun. :yawn:

The republicans should have Trey Gowdy do a investigation and then have him release the findings right before the election. I'm sure voters will ignore all the previous investigation that found no wrong doing and overwhelmingly vote for the republitards. :sarcasm:

Posted by Self-Banished on Sep. 16 2014,8:10 am
^^ and would we expect to hear anything from the lame stream pro or con?
doubtful

Posted by irisheyes on Sep. 17 2014,5:32 am

(Self-Banished @ Sep. 16 2014,8:10 am)
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^^ and would we expect to hear anything from the lame stream pro or con?
doubtful

So you'll believe the tabloids because the mainstream media doesn't tell you those things?

The mainstream media hasn't been telling us the pro/cons of the moon landing being a fake, but that doesn't mean we should look for the scandal elsewhere until we find it.   :D

Posted by Self-Banished on Sep. 17 2014,6:11 am
^^^ well you're up early cupcake

Unless I see something in person I question everything.

If you think the three networks aren't biased towards the progressives you are one dumb SOB.

Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 17 2015,6:06 am
Ah, more Hildebeast BS

< http://www.zerohedge.com/news...il-leak >

Does Buster and friends not want her in office?

Posted by Liberal on Mar. 17 2015,6:43 am
Ed Klein? :rofl:

< http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Klein >

Posted by MADDOG on Mar. 17 2015,10:39 am

(Botto 82 @ Sep. 06 2014,2:48 am)
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I'd say a real threat to the world are morons, ones who still proudly display their Hope and Change bumper stickers, that think for a second that it's a good idea to put this post-menopausal nutjob in the Oval, given the failed experiments of the last four Presidential terms.

:rofl: God, I still love this one of Botto's.  :rofl:
Posted by MADDOG on Mar. 17 2015,10:42 am

(Liberal @ Mar. 17 2015,6:43 am)
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Ed Klein? :rofl:

< http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Klein >

Careful.  He might write another Hillary book.  He can call this one "Hillary, Just Me and My Server."
Posted by Liberal on Mar. 17 2015,10:43 am
Or Hillary and my conversations with imaginary sources.
Posted by Botto 82 on Mar. 17 2015,1:05 pm
There is no bad publicity, if you're Hillary. This email "scandal" is just another example of how she keeps herself in the news cycle.
Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 17 2015,1:43 pm
So did she sign the document or not?
Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 18 2015,8:09 am
Appearently she didn't sign the document. How convenient!
:sarcasm:

Posted by Common Citizen on Mar. 18 2015,3:40 pm
Career politicians are the reason why people hate Washington and Hillary and her husband are the poster children.

They are narcissistic.  They have this urge to always be in the limelight instead of quietly going back to their retirement home and letting a new generation take the reigns.

Posted by alcitizens on Mar. 21 2015,4:30 am

(Common Citizen @ Mar. 18 2015,3:40 pm)
QUOTE
Career politicians are the reason why people hate Washington and Hillary and her husband are the poster children.

They are narcissistic.  They have this urge to always be in the limelight instead of quietly going back to their retirement home and letting a new generation take the reigns.

< If Election was held Today >

2016 General Election: Paul vs. Clinton

Hillary Clinton 52.1%
Rand Paul 41.9%
Undecided 6%

Rand Paul appears to be Hillary Clinton's toughest challenge..

2016 General Election: Walker vs. Clinton

Hillary Clinton 55.0%
Scott Walker 40.0%
Undecided 5%

Republican's need to come up with some Really Bad sh!t about Hillary.. Benghazi and Emails won't cut it.. :rofl:

Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 21 2015,6:52 am

(alcitizens @ Mar. 21 2015,4:30 am)
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Republican's need to come up with some Really Bad sh!t about Hillary.. Benghazi and Emails won't cut it.. :rofl:

Of course they do, since when has being incompetent and a criminal ever been a road block?
Posted by alcitizens on Mar. 21 2015,9:10 am

(Self-Banished @ Mar. 21 2015,6:52 am)
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being incompetent and a criminal ever been a road block?

You would know better than anyone.. :rofl:
Posted by grassman on Mar. 21 2015,9:39 am
It would appear that the laws are meant for the minions, only.


Los Angeles police spent $22,000 to get killer to dinner
Associated Press
By JUSTIN PRITCHARD, Associated Press


LOS ANGELES — The Los Angeles Police Department used an invalid court order and spent $22,000 to bring an imprisoned killer and former gang leader to speak to an exclusive dinner for private executives, according to a report released Friday.

In all, 38 LAPD employees worked about 320 hours to prepare for the January event at a downtown building and protect Rene "Boxer" Enriquez while he was there, the inspector general of the city's police commission wrote.

What's more, the department didn't have authority in the first place to remove Enriquez from custody because it used an order from a 2012 murder case that has been closed — and in any case only allowed his release to act as a witness — the departmental watchdog's report said.

Enriquez, an ex-Mexican Mafia leader has been in prison since 1993 on a 20-years-to-life sentence, has gained allies in law enforcement. Gov. Jerry Brown has acknowledged Enriquez's past cooperation with authorities but denied him parole last month, saying his history of violence meant he still presented "an unreasonable danger to society if released."

The decision came despite letters of support from the FBI and several federal prosecutors.

In recent years, Enriquez had talked to various groups of officers and provided valuable information on the transnational criminal enterprise to which he once belonged, Los Angeles Police Deputy Chief Michael Downing said in the days after the event.

On Friday, the department issued a short statement, saying that Chief Charlie Beck had asked his professional standards bureau to launch its own investigation. Beck already had said the department's role in the event was a mistake.

In December, a commanding officer at LAPD characterized the event as a law enforcement training session in asking Beck to approve the use of department resources, which he did. Those resources would eventually include officers making three visits to Enriquez before he spoke, a police helicopter to scout his route to the building, and SWAT officers who secured the area.

The event attracted 175 people invited by a chapter of the Young Presidents' Organization, which describes itself as "the world's premier peer network of chief executives and business leaders." Four LAPD officers attended, as did 10 other "high-ranking law enforcement executives" from other agencies.

The invitation promised a once in a lifetime chance to hear a mystery guest, promising that attendees would be "amazed, shocked, blown away and maybe even a little scared."

Inside the room, the presentation included some theatrics.

"Silhouetted behind a screen, Enriquez described how an organization creates, delivers, and accumulates value economically, socially, and culturally," the report said. "It was not until the curtain was lifted that the audience saw Enriquez standing on a small stage, in a black business suit, with his hands cuffed to waist chains and his legs in shackles."

Once the handcuffs were removed, he explained who he was and how the Mexican Mafia worked.

Afterward, guests went for a buffet dinner. They were allowed, in pairs, to meet Enriquez — who signed copies of a 2009 book about his life.

On Friday, Los Angeles Police Commission President Steve Soboroff credited the police chief for taking "the action necessary to do a thorough personnel investigation." The commission is an independent civilian board that oversees the department.

Posted by Common Citizen on Mar. 21 2015,9:52 am

(alcitizens @ Mar. 21 2015,4:30 am)
QUOTE

(Common Citizen @ Mar. 18 2015,3:40 pm)
QUOTE
Career politicians are the reason why people hate Washington and Hillary and her husband are the poster children.

They are narcissistic.  They have this urge to always be in the limelight instead of quietly going back to their retirement home and letting a new generation take the reigns.

< If Election was held Today >

2016 General Election: Paul vs. Clinton

Hillary Clinton 52.1%
Rand Paul 41.9%
Undecided 6%

Rand Paul appears to be Hillary Clinton's toughest challenge..

2016 General Election: Walker vs. Clinton

Hillary Clinton 55.0%
Scott Walker 40.0%
Undecided 5%

Republican's need to come up with some Really Bad sh!t about Hillary.. Benghazi and Emails won't cut it.. :rofl:

Is this the same Huffington Post that was polling an Isaac Herzog win in Israel?

So you guys have settled on Hillary then? Hey, way to aim high.  Besides most TMZ viewers can't even tell you where Wisconsin is let alone tell you who governs the state.   :dunce:

Posted by MADDOG on Mar. 21 2015,10:21 am
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The < Associated Press sued the State Department >Wednesday to demand it turn over former Secretary Hillary Rodham Clinton’s emails, saying Obama administration officials have botched five different open-records requests over the last five years.

Going straight to the heart of the Clinton email controversy, the AP said despite five years of questions, the State Department never said it didn’t have control over Mrs. Clinton’s emails, suggesting that officials were breaking the spirit of open-records when they said they were conducting searches for records.

“State’s failure to ensure that Secretary Clinton’s governmental emails were retained and preserved by the agency, and its failure timely to seek out and search those emails in response to AP’s requests, indicate at the very least that State has not engaged in the diligent, good-faith search that FOIA requires,” the news organization said in its lawsuit, filed in federal district court in Washington, D.C.


Sounds like the AP might be in for a rough ride if they are not going to conform to saint Hillary.

Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 21 2015,10:36 am

(alcitizens @ Mar. 21 2015,9:10 am)
QUOTE

(Self-Banished @ Mar. 21 2015,6:52 am)
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being incompetent and a criminal ever been a road block?

You would know better than anyone.. :rofl:

Go let the nice kitty retard.
Posted by alcitizens on Mar. 21 2015,12:05 pm
Latest Polls

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WALKER

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< CNN >

3/13 - 3/15

55

40

3

Clinton +15

< McClatchy/Marist >

3/1 - 3/4

48

44

9

Clinton +4

< Quinnipiac >

2/26 - 3/2

48

39

12

Clinton +9

< Rasmussen >

2/28 - 3/1

46

41

6

Clinton +5

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2/20 - 2/22

48

40

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Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Mar. 22 2015,7:16 pm
Wait, you want to elect this caeta who cannot use two phones for email and what not?
Posted by alcitizens on Mar. 23 2015,3:01 am

(Grinning_Dragon @ Mar. 22 2015,7:16 pm)
QUOTE
Wait, you want to elect this caeta who cannot use two phones for email and what not?

Wait, is there a Republican that wants to run during a booming economy just to lose to a girl? :laugh:
Posted by alcitizens on Mar. 23 2015,5:24 am
Just heard that there is one.. Ted Cruz.. :rofl:
Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 23 2015,5:26 am
What has stroke lady accomplished in her time as a public employee???
Posted by grassman on Mar. 23 2015,6:31 am

(Grinning_Dragon @ Mar. 22 2015,7:16 pm)
QUOTE
Wait, you want to elect this caeta who cannot use two phones for email and what not?

So who do you think should be President, Bobby Jingle? :D

Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 23 2015,8:03 am

(grassman @ Mar. 23 2015,6:31 am)
QUOTE

(Grinning_Dragon @ Mar. 22 2015,7:16 pm)
QUOTE
Wait, you want to elect this caeta who cannot use two phones for email and what not?

So who do you think should be President, Bobby Jingle? :D

If the only choice I had were stroke lady and this guy, I'd have to go with the latter :blush:
Posted by MADDOG on Mar. 23 2015,12:18 pm
One thing to wonder is now Trey is respectfully asking for access to Hillary's computer server.  I wonder what terrible thing will happen to it before the courts has to issue a subpoena to recover any deleted files?  I mean we all know she isn't going to just hand it over willingly.
Posted by Liberal on Mar. 23 2015,1:02 pm
Trey Gowdy was great at playing banjo in Deliverance.
Posted by Glad I Left on Mar. 23 2015,1:28 pm
OMFG that's funny!
Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 23 2015,2:04 pm
I have to admit that too :rofl:

But Melville wrote of Hillary :D

Posted by MADDOG on Mar. 23 2015,3:53 pm

(Liberal @ Mar. 23 2015,1:02 pm)
QUOTE
Trey Gowdy was great at playing banjo in Deliverance.

:D
Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 24 2015,9:54 am
So nobody wants to step up for Hillary? Answer what she has accomplished in her years as a public servant??
Posted by Botto 82 on Mar. 24 2015,7:40 pm
Eleanor Clift.  :rofl:

Buuuuh-bye!

Posted by alcitizens on Mar. 25 2015,4:24 am

(Self-Banished @ Mar. 23 2015,5:26 am)
QUOTE
What has stroke lady accomplished in her time as a public employee ???

You make it difficult to answer a question when you have already answered the question..
Or are you trying to say that Public Employee's get paid to do nothing? :dunce:

Hillary Clinton Traveled 956,733 Miles During Her Time as Secretary of State..

WASHINGTON (AP) — If diplomatic achievements were measured by the number of countries visited, Hillary Rodham Clinton would be the most accomplished secretary of state in history.

Read more: < http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0712/78594.html#ixzz3VO5GFttg >

Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 25 2015,5:42 am
^^so she traveled almost a million miles and collected a paycheck :blush:

Traveling is an activity, not an accomplishment. Again, what did she accomplish?(besides seeing the world on our dime)

Posted by grassman on Mar. 25 2015,5:50 am
The first word of the article says a lot.Did she accomplish anything? :dunno: I can drive around all day, that doesn't mean I did anything except burn up time and gas. I am still weary of professional politicians.
Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 25 2015,5:55 am

(grassman @ Mar. 25 2015,5:50 am)
QUOTE
The first word of the article says a lot.Did she accomplish anything? :dunno: I can drive around all day, that doesn't mean I did anything except burn up time and gas. I am still weary of professional politicians.

Driving a Ford all day is an accomplishment, isn't it :dunno:
Posted by alcitizens on Mar. 25 2015,5:59 am
QUOTE
^^so she traveled almost a million miles and collected a paycheck :blush:

Traveling is an activity, not an accomplishment. Again, what did she accomplish?(besides seeing the world on our dime)


Now you're saying Trucker's don't make accomplishments..

You are one screwed up person. :crazy:

Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 25 2015,6:05 am

(alcitizens @ Mar. 25 2015,5:59 am)
QUOTE
Now you're saying Trucker's don't make accomplishments..

You are one screwed up person. :crazy:

I poke a little fun at Gman and you come up with this?

You are one dumb bastard :dunce:

Oops, hadn't had enough coffee yet :blush:

I pick and deliver product all day :thumbsup:

You're still a dumbass :dunce:

Posted by Botto 82 on Mar. 25 2015,9:54 am
I can't tell what's worse: The thought of putting Hillary in the Oval, or the delusional nutjobs that think doing so will in any way make our lives one bit better. :crazy:
Posted by Liberal on Mar. 25 2015,11:12 am
And who do you think would make our lives better, Ron Paul? :crazy:
Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 25 2015,11:52 am

(Botto 82 @ Mar. 25 2015,9:54 am)
QUOTE
I can't tell what's worse: The thought of putting Hillary in the Oval, or the delusional nutjobs that think doing so will in any way make our lives one bit better. :crazy:

The real sad thing is is that the alternative isn't much better. :(
Posted by Botto 82 on Mar. 25 2015,1:31 pm
Yeah, so just accept the crappy choices. Way to demand more from your respective parties.

As far as Hillary goes, I get a kick out of all the loony lefties that think voting for a neo-conservative CFR puppet like Clinton is somehow the Progressive thing to do.  :rofl:

Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 28 2015,8:43 am
Well how about that? Stroke lady permanently deleted her e-mails.

< http://www.cnn.com/videos...ail.cnn >

How convenient!😜

Posted by Botto 82 on Mar. 28 2015,9:44 am
Anyone who votes for this moonbat needs to be deported.

Nuff Said...

Posted by Expatriate on Mar. 28 2015,2:38 pm
Sanders / Warren 2016, I don't care who gets top billing on the dream team ticket!
< https://www.facebook.com/WarrenSanders2016 >

Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 28 2015,4:26 pm

(Expatriate @ Mar. 28 2015,2:38 pm)
QUOTE
Sanders / Warren 2016, I don't care who gets top billing on the dream team ticket!
< https://www.facebook.com/WarrenSanders2016 >

Yep, a republican dream :blush:

Isn't Warren the one that claimed Native American heritage but can't prove it? :rofl:

Posted by Common Citizen on Mar. 28 2015,8:56 pm

(Expatriate @ Mar. 28 2015,2:38 pm)
QUOTE
Sanders / Warren 2016, I don't care who gets top billing on the dream team ticket!
< https://www.facebook.com/WarrenSanders2016 >

Elizabeth Warren is a Christian and Sanders is a Jew.

Now what?  ???

Posted by Expatriate on Mar. 29 2015,7:53 am
They're not members of the right-wing christian coalition, if they
practice different religions that's their belief, our Government is secular design!
The real danger the kooks who mix Government and Religion into a theocracy, e.g. (Right-Wing Christian Coalition)!

Posted by grassman on Mar. 29 2015,8:27 am
:angel: Actually I could get behind Sanders and Warren. They do not seem to be game players and are concerned about our govt. I really like Bernie's stance on the problems in the middle east. I have lost what little confidence I had in Clinton.
Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 29 2015,11:04 am
^^I can see where you would like Bernie, promotes Union, believes in the fairy tale of global warming and single payer healthcare.

We do agree on one thing though, he believes unemployment is not at 5.6% but more like 11 plus %.

Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 29 2015,11:36 am
Perhaps this is an accomplishment of stroke lady's, putting up with a husband that might possibly be a child molester, or maybe covering up for a child molester :blush:

< http://dailycaller.com/2015...clinton >

Would either of them be accomplishments?? :p

Appenently she's had experience with this type of stuff

< http://abcnews.go.com/Politic....com%2F >

Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 29 2015,11:42 am
Appently she knows how to invest money

< http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki...roversy >

Or is this bullsh!t? :D

Posted by grassman on Apr. 03 2015,3:29 pm
Don't make her mad...
Posted by Botto 82 on Apr. 03 2015,6:35 pm
The libbies are unfazed. They'll vote for her, anyway.
Posted by MADDOG on Apr. 10 2015,4:24 pm

(Botto 82 @ Apr. 03 2015,6:35 pm)
QUOTE
The libbies are unfazed. They'll vote for her, anyway.

They did the same thing a couple times in the last few years.  Besides, they'll feel sorry for her.  After all, she's Just Another Dead-Broke Soccer Mom.
Posted by irisheyes on Apr. 10 2015,11:58 pm

(Self-Banished @ Mar. 29 2015,11:36 am)
QUOTE
Perhaps this is an accomplishment of stroke lady's, putting up with a husband that might possibly be a child molester, or maybe covering up for a child molester :blush:
< http://dailycaller.com/2015...clinton >

You do know who Roger Stone is, don't you?  You might as well be asking Karl Rove or Lee Atwater.

C'mon, you've said you pay attention to better sources than this, but you're posting tabloids.

Botto:
QUOTE
The libbies are unfazed. They'll vote for her, anyway.

We'd be happy to see a better option that was viable.  But viable is really the key word there.  You don't want to be that Florida voter who's not totally pleased with Al Gore, so he'll take a stand and vote for Nader on that butterfly ballot.  Then after a few recounts he sees them singing "Hail to the Chief" to George W.   :;):

I'd rather not risk it, it's like betting on the horse where the odds of payout are huge but he's got a broken leg and even the jokey knows he's going to lose.

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 11 2015,4:23 am
^^You'll notice I use other tabloids from the to time, the Huffington Post being one of them.

It's funny to see libs admitting to compromising principles to elect a democrat, especially after the failure we've had the last six years.

Perhaps you'll answer the simple question I have, what has stroke lady accomplished???

Posted by alcitizens on Apr. 11 2015,5:29 pm

(Botto 82 @ Apr. 03 2015,6:35 pm)
QUOTE
The libbies are unfazed. They'll vote for her, anyway.

Independent and even Republican Women will vote for the first Female President..
Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 11 2015,7:32 pm
^^...and Independent and even democrat women won't vote for her. :dunce:
Posted by Expatriate on Apr. 12 2015,6:19 am
Hillary Clinton on issues:

Education: Against No Child Left Behind. Position unknown on Common Core.

Immigration: President should waive deportation for some immigrants. Give undocumented residents a path to legal status.

Marijuana: “Wait and see” on overall legalization.

NSA: More transparency. Find the balance between security, privacy.

Obamacare: Keep it. Strengthen it. Tout it.

Social Issues: Abortion should be legal. So should same-sex marriage.

Taxes: Consider closing loopholes and cutting middle class taxes.

Israel: Work toward a two-state solution. Do not necessarily freeze settlement building.

Iran: Support framework for nuclear deal. Continue diplomacy efforts and some sanctions.

Islamic State: No boots on the ground. Use regional troops.

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 12 2015,7:10 am
Hillary Clinton on issues:

Education: Against No Child Left Behind. Position unknown on Common Core.

If it involves indoctrination of our youths you can bet she's for it.


Immigration: President should waive deportation for some immigrants. Give undocumented residents a path to legal status.

No, we have plenty of manpower in the employment of the gov. Deport them all.


Marijuana: “Wait and see” on overall legalization.
Maybe it'll keep Bill in check :rofl:

NSA: More transparency. Find the balance between security, privacy.
She'll use it to keep her own enemies in line.

Obamacare: Keep it. Strengthen it. Tout it.
No, no and hell no.



Social Issues: Abortion should be legal. So should same-sex marriage.
Gov. Should have business in marriage period!



Taxes: Consider closing loopholes and cutting middle class taxes.
Flat tax or fair tax, abolish the IRS.



Israel: Work toward a two-state solution. Do not necessarily freeze settlement building.
Non of our business, but protect our allies.



Iran: Support framework for nuclear deal. Continue diplomacy efforts and some sanctions.
Tell them if they develope a weapon we'll show them what happens if they use it.

Islamic State: No boots on the ground. Use regional troops.
Non of our business.

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History is no more than the lies agreed upon by the victors.
           
                                                  ~NAPOLEON BONAPARTE

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 12 2015,7:24 am
Oh my, this is just going to be so much fun  :D
Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 13 2015,5:08 am
Stroke lady announced her candidacy yesterday, her campaign workers are already optimistic and have their first slogan,

Clinton Under No Threat! :thumbsup:

Posted by irisheyes on Apr. 13 2015,7:51 pm

(Self-Banished @ Apr. 11 2015,4:23 am)
QUOTE
It's funny to see libs admitting to compromising principles to elect a democrat

Both liberals and conservatives know about compromise, there's not a single one of you that agrees with everything Rand Paul or Ted Cruz says or believes.  Does that mean you're going to not vote or write-in a candidate?   ???

Why is compromise a bad word to you guys?

QUOTE
especially after the failure we've had the last six years.

The deficit's went down just like it did under Clinton, and the Republicans can't claim it's the dot.com bubble this time.  The housing market has improved, the deficit has dramatically went down for the first time since, well, again since the last Democratic President.  

Foreign policy is my biggest problem with most Dem candidates (including Obama and Clinton), but even on that at least in recent years we have a deal with Iran for both reduction and inspection.  And improving relations with one of our closest neighbors after five or six decades of ignoring them and pretending that Cuba isn't more than just a sunny place to torture detainees.  Bin Laden is dead and both the Republican candidate for '08 and '12 are on record saying they would NOT have given that order if it meant Pakistan.  In other words, that part of the war is "mission accomplished" and the only thing conservatives can say is that Obama didn't fast-rope from a helicopter and pull the trigger himself.  I guess I'm wondering what exactly is your definition of failure?  

Back to the topic, it seems that your main criticisms of Hillary are that she fell down a few years ago and there's internet rumors about her husband.   ???

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 14 2015,5:45 am
^^you really need to lay off the broadcast news channels.
Posted by irisheyes on Apr. 14 2015,2:24 pm
^I don't watch the broadcast news.  You can't back up your claims (failure of the last six years), so you change the subject.  Not exactly an original tactic.
Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 14 2015,2:52 pm
My numbers have been down pretty much from the beginning
An anemic GDP'
A labor partisipation rate that sucks

And I'm sorry if I hurt your poor widdle feewings :sarcasm:

Posted by irisheyes on Apr. 15 2015,8:20 pm

(Self-Banished @ Apr. 14 2015,2:52 pm)
QUOTE
And I'm sorry if I hurt your poor widdle feewings

No hurt feelings, you're still on my Christmas card list.   :sarcasm:

QUOTE
My numbers have been down pretty much from the beginning

But you've also posted about personal responsibility, "digging deep".  If that's true, than why do you blame Obama for your own shortcomings?  If your numbers are up I would congratulate you, NOT Reagan, Bush, or Obama.  The POTUS is focused, and should focus on macroeconomics.

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 15 2015,8:33 pm
So, how is the business you run going?
Posted by Botto 82 on Apr. 15 2015,10:05 pm

(irisheyes @ Apr. 13 2015,7:51 pm)
QUOTE
I guess I'm wondering what exactly is your definition of failure?  

How about a government full of self-serving plutocrats who look at working Americans the way a debutante looks at a piece of dog crap on their shoe, and all the while the party faithful look up to their respective candidates with the star-struck glazed-over look of a 14-year-old Justin Bieber fan?

How about a Congress that gets less and less done for its constituents with each passing term, all the while opening more loopholes for multinational corporations?

How about all but the complete erosion of the net worth of the middle class over the last 50 years?

If none of that resembles failure to you, then you're asking the wrong guy.

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 16 2015,9:30 am
Damn! stroke lady got a new backer.
Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 20 2015,11:36 am
Looks like another book coming out in May about stroke lady and the former first molester :thumbsup:

Of course the party faithful will put in no thought of their own and come to the defense of the former first crooks, oops, I mean first couple :blush:
< http://www.businessinsider.com/this-is...-2015-4 >

Posted by Liberal on Apr. 20 2015,3:25 pm
This guy is as crazy as Klein and nobody will care about the book just like Klein's
Posted by Common Citizen on Apr. 20 2015,5:26 pm

(Liberal @ Apr. 20 2015,3:25 pm)
QUOTE
This guy is as crazy as Klein and nobody will care about the book just like Klein's

5.“Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions.

< My Webpage >

Posted by grassman on Apr. 20 2015,5:29 pm
From your book?
Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 20 2015,5:57 pm
^^nope, actually from someone far more dangerous.

Nice call CC :notworthy:

Posted by Liberal on Apr. 20 2015,11:24 pm

(Common Citizen @ Apr. 20 2015,5:26 pm)
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(Liberal @ Apr. 20 2015,3:25 pm)
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This guy is as crazy as Klein and nobody will care about the book just like Klein's

5.“Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions.

< My Webpage >

Or it could just be the truth. Read a little about the authors, Jack
Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 23 2015,11:11 am
Must have been a slight error :dunce:

< http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN0NE0CA20150423?irpc=932 >

Posted by MADDOG on Apr. 23 2015,2:22 pm
< Morning Joe > talks about Clinton cash.

Wow, are the donks losing some clout with the < mash media >?

Posted by Botto 82 on Apr. 23 2015,2:42 pm
The carnage continues...  :rofl:

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New ethics questions test Hillary Clinton's campaign
By Dan Merica, CNN

Clinton camp pushes back on foreign donation questions 02:31
New York (CNN)Thursday is shaping up to be the rockiest day yet for Hillary Clinton's newly minted presidential campaign amid new questions about possible conflicts of interest between the former secretary of state, her family's foundation and her husband, former President Bill Clinton.

The morning saw stories from The New York Times, ABC and other outlets raise ethical questions about the Clintons. The articles -- some of which were tied to a soon-to-be released book -- also provided Republicans with an opportunity to attack Clinton, the prohibitive favorite for the Democratic nomination in 2016 who declared her campaign earlier this month.

Reuters reported Thursday that the Clinton Foundation will conduct a "voluntary external review" of their 2010, 2011 and 2012 tax filings to determine whether they need to refile those reports due to grants being reported incorrectly. Multiple foundation officials confirmed the review to CNN.

"None of our overall revenue or expense numbers on any year's form will change upon refiling, and all donations to the Foundation were properly accounted for as overall revenue in each year's tax form," one official said. "Our tax preparers at the time accidentally reported grants on an incorrect line on tax forms for three years."

Reuters wrote that the audits resulted in major errors due to "under- and over-reporting, by millions of dollars." Clinton Foundation officials said that was not true, arguing that although the grants were reported incorrectly, "total revenue was reflected accurately on each year's tax forms, and there was no under- or over-reporting."

"While each year our revenue, expenses, and top-line numbers were all accurate and not impacted by this, we are committed to transparency and accountability, and as such, we expect to refile," one official said.

Rand and Ron Paul are far from the first father and son to each mount a presidential campaign — in fact, they're not even the only family connection in the 2016 field. Take a look at some other political families with more than one presidential contender.
Hillary Clinton joined the family foundation -- joining her daughter and husband -- shortly after she left the State Department in 2013. On the same day she announced her presidential campaign, however, the former first lady left the board of directors.

News of the Clinton Foundation audit came at the same time that Clinton's campaign team was preparing a response to "Clinton Cash," a new book by Peter Schweizer, a conservative author who alleges Clinton's State Department did favors for donors to the Clinton Foundation.

On Thursday, The New York Times reported that Clinton's State Department was "among the agencies" to eventually sign off on a deal that allowed a Russian energy company to buy the rights to one-fifth of the United States' uranium deposits. Significant donors to the foundation, according to the Times, stood to benefit from the deal, which was eventually approved.

The piece also notes how donations from the Canadian company flowed to the Clinton Foundation around the time of the deal and how "shortly after the Russians announced their intention to acquire a majority stake in Uranium One, Mr. Clinton received $500,000 for a Moscow speech from a Russian investment bank with links to the Kremlin that was promoting Uranium One stock."

"Whether the donations played any role in the approval of the uranium deal is unknown," the Times writes.

Thursday's story was part of a deal between Schweizer and the Times. "Mr. Schweizer provided a preview of material in the book to The Times, which scrutinized his information and built upon it with its own reporting," the paper reported.

Clinton's sizable communications team worked into the wee hours of Thursday morning on their response to the "Clinton Cash" story. Clinton "friends and allies" received talking points on the book from Brian Fallon, the campaign's press secretary, at 2 a.m. on Thursday.

"Simply put: his accusations are proving to be completely devoid of evidence, even by the author's own admission," Fallon writes in the talking points, which were obtained by CNN from someone who received them. "The bottom line remains that the book fails to produce a shred of evidence supporting the theory that Hillary Clinton ever took action as secretary of state for the purposes of supporting the interests of donors to the Clinton Foundation."

The talking points went on to cite different media reports that questioned the book and its author.

Adding to the bad news for Clinton on Thursday, ABC reported that Bill Clinton's speaking fees "doubled or tripled" after Hillary Clinton became secretary of state.

"Where he once had drawn $150,000 for a typical address in the years following his presidency, Clinton saw a succession of staggering paydays for speeches in 2010 and 2011, including $500,000 paid by a Russian investment bank and $750,000 to address a telecom conference in China," during Hillary Clinton's time as America's top diplomat.

The ABC report also stems from Schweizer's "Clinton Cash."

"These new revelations continue to raise serious questions about Hillary Clinton's judgment as secretary of state," Allison Moore, the Republican National Committee's spokeswoman, said in an email to reporters.

Outside the Metropolitan Republican Club in New York City, Republican hopeful Jeb Bush that although he hasn't "seen the contents of the book," he thinks Clinton will "have to be held accountable like all of us about dealings. That is part of the process, right?"

But Chelsea Clinton, the former first daughter and vice chair of the Clinton Foundation, defended her mother and the foundation Thursday in the face of the mounting criticism.

"What the Clinton Foundation has said is that we will be even more transparent, even though Transparency International and others have said we're among the most transparent of foundations," Clinton said during a panel at the Council on Foreign Relations in New York. "I very much believe that that is the right policy. That we'll be even more transparent. That to eliminate any questions while we're in this time, we won't take new government funding, but that the work will continue as it is."


It had to be difficult for the Clinton News Network to have to publish this.  :rofl:

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 23 2015,2:46 pm
^^tough love. :blush:
Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 24 2015,5:31 am
Are the rats abandoning the ship?

Are the koolaid consumers finding the taste sour?

Might stroke lady end up eating tuna casserole nightly?

< http://www.businessinsider.com/nyt-rep...-2015-4 >

Stay tuned kiddies :D

Posted by Expatriate on Apr. 24 2015,8:16 am
:angry:
Posted by grassman on Apr. 24 2015,9:33 am
Say it isn't so!!!! :lalala:
Posted by MADDOG on Apr. 24 2015,9:34 am
Nice attempt at deflection.  We're talking about the Benghazi Bullshipper.
Posted by Botto 82 on Apr. 24 2015,10:08 am
Where does she stand on TPP?
Posted by MADDOG on Apr. 24 2015,11:15 am
Weren't the Clinton's already paid for that?  :rofl:
Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 24 2015,4:05 pm
Even F%ck Todd seems to be putting stroke lady down. :rofl:

< http://www.mediaite.com/tv...d-inept >

Posted by Expatriate on Apr. 24 2015,5:42 pm

(Botto 82 @ Apr. 24 2015,10:08 am)
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Where does she stand on TPP?


Posted by Botto 82 on Apr. 24 2015,6:48 pm
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Hillary Clinton believes that any new trade measure has to pass two tests: First, it should put us in a position to protect American workers, raise wages and create more good jobs at home. Second, it must also strengthen our national security,” Merrill said. “We should be willing to walk away from any outcome that falls short of these tests.


Anybody that believes that tripe again and again is about as stupid as...

Posted by Expatriate on Apr. 24 2015,7:01 pm
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Anybody that believes that tripe again and again is about as stupid as...


Agreed, Clinton seems to be skating the TPP issue with textbook political speak!

Posted by MADDOG on Jun. 13 2015,10:04 am
Look what she's done.


< View on YouTube >

Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 13 2015,10:30 am
I do like Carly, someone from the private sector, someone who's actually HAD A JOB, that might have an idea as to HOW AN ECONOMY ACTUALLY WORKS.

Hilary sounds like she's taking artillery fire, sounds like where I'm at today with the boys at Ripley having target practice.😄

Posted by Expatriate on Jun. 13 2015,11:06 am

(Self-Banished @ Jun. 13 2015,10:30 am)
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I do like Carly, someone from the private sector, someone who's actually HAD A JOB, that might have an idea as to HOW AN ECONOMY ACTUALLY WORKS.

:dunce: you best check with HP on that one  :rofl:

x2

Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 13 2015,11:30 am
^^ :dunce: yeah, you might want to look at the dates on that downturn, that was late nineties-early 2000's The dot-com bubble hit a lot of companies like HP.

Once again, leave the running of businesses to private sector dumbass, not public sector union leeches. :dunce:

Ummm, I don't seem to remember anyone getting killed at HP😳

Posted by Expatriate on Jun. 13 2015,6:18 pm
:p Carly Fiorina got the boot in 2005 the dot com bubble was the late 90’s Dumbo. Do you just type your bogus crap and expect people will believe it.
Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 14 2015,5:57 am
Here, watch the video, listen to her words, consider them, realize that sometimes in the business world there are battles, back biting, personality conflicts. Maybe you should try a business of your own sometime. Someone with your mental agility might try a lemonade stand then maybe you could graduate to selling encyclopedias door to door.

I see at the nearby town up here they had a cornhole contest yesterday, did you go defend your title as champion cornholer? :dunce:

Posted by Expatriate on Jun. 14 2015,6:33 am
:p
Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 14 2015,7:29 am
^^^ yes, we know you are dumbass :D
Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 16 2015,5:20 am
Hillary's new logo :blush:
Posted by Liberal on Jun. 16 2015,8:56 am
< http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/benghazi.asp >
Posted by Common Citizen on Jun. 16 2015,9:23 am
< http://accuracyinpolitics.blogspot.com/2013/05/snopes-got-snoped.html >

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It is run by a husband and wife team - that's right, no big office of investigators scouring public records in Washington, no researchers studying historical stacks in libraries, no team of lawyers reaching a consensus on current caselaw. No, Snopes.com is just a mom-and-pop operation that was started by two people who have absolutely no formal background or experience in investigative research.


Of course you can always snope this if you feel it necessary.  :rofl:  :;):

Posted by Liberal on Jun. 16 2015,9:50 am
Funny, at first you kooks try to claim they were liberals when you found out the husband was a registered republican you had to come up with something new.  :rofl:
Posted by Common Citizen on Jun. 16 2015,11:17 pm
Not sure where the guy being a registered republican came in.  Only thing I saw was a reference to his wife being a Canadian citizen.  I could be wrong as I didn't Snope it.

I do know that just because you claim to be one thing doesn't necessarily make it so.  :rofl:

Posted by MADDOG on Sep. 16 2015,8:52 am
Now here is a kook.


< View on YouTube >

I wonder how many people actually believe her?  :rofl:

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