Forum: Opinion
Topic: Obama's (No)Accountibility
started by: MADDOG

Posted by MADDOG on May 22 2014,12:23 pm
It seems that once again Obama has come out and spoke that "his people" will look into the challenges coming forth by certain individuals about the health issues of some of our veterans.  Looking as if he appeared to be angry he stated, "If these allegations prove to be true, it is dishonorable, it is disgraceful, and I will not tolerate it, period."

Sure, ya, you betcha.  We've heard this crap before.  Bambino will tell us he's going to have his people look into the allegations and review their findings and after a week or so when he gets word all the evidence has been shredded, he'll call it a right wing conspiracy.

Congress is opening the door for him to roll heads, but all we'll see is "troop movements" and quiet promotions.  He'll be just as absent as he was for the laying of the wreath at the tomb.  No problem.  He has no respect for our fallen.

Posted by Self-Banished on May 22 2014,2:15 pm
Face it MD, the only time he wants to be associated with the military is like when Bin Laden was killed, in his mind he was right along side them, otherwise he, like most progressive, despises the military and sees them as nothing more than monkeys that flip the switch.

I hope you progressives like obama care 'cause we're getting a preview. :dunce:

Posted by irisheyes on May 22 2014,5:16 pm

(MADDOG @ May 22 2014,12:23 pm)
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Bambino will tell us he's going to have his people look into the allegations and review their findings and after a week or so when he gets word all the evidence has been shredded, he'll call it a right wing conspiracy.

There are always policies that have to be changed with a health system as large as the VA, especially with all the stress put on it after our current never-ending wars.  But the veterans I've talked to are pleased with the VA system.  In fact, they have fewer complaints about the VA hospital than if you asked them about their local hospitals.

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He has no respect for our fallen.

Because of a wreath ceremony?  This reminds me of the movie Head of State where Chris Rock is running for President.  His opponent runs an attack ad saying that Chris Rock didn't attend the annual anti-cancer rally and then asks the question, "Is he against cancer, or for it?"  Then ends the add with, "[insert candidates name], he's for cancer."   :;):

Self-Banished:
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the only time he wants to be associated with the military is like when Bin Laden was killed, in his mind he was right along side them

Romney and McCain openly said they wouldn't give that order and mocked Obama for disagreeing with them.  There's plenty to attack Obama on, particularly if you're a conservative, but give the guy credit where credit it due.

After all, if the raid on Bin Laden's compound had been a failure you'd blame Obama, but it was a success.  Instead you'll attack him for not strapping on a flak jacket and pulling the trigger himself?   :p

Posted by Self-Banished on May 22 2014,5:31 pm
OK Captain, I'll agree, obama was right there, in the war room when bin laden was assassinated, I mean killed. Probably had an ear bud on and was directing the seal right to the target then telling him when to pull the trigger. Wow, what a leader!

Ummm...
Where was he during Bengazi? :oops:

Posted by MADDOG on May 22 2014,10:18 pm

(Self-Banished @ May 22 2014,5:31 pm)
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Ummm...
Where was he during Bengazi? :oops:

Under the table?
Posted by MADDOG on May 22 2014,10:33 pm

(irisheyes @ May 22 2014,5:16 pm)
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He has no respect for our fallen.

Because of a wreath ceremony?  This reminds me of the movie Head of State where Chris Rock is running for President.  His opponent runs an attack ad saying that Chris Rock didn't attend the annual anti-cancer rally and then asks the question, "Is he against cancer, or for it?"  Then ends the add with, "[insert candidates name], he's for cancer."   :;):

Self-Banished:
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the only time he wants to be associated with the military is like when Bin Laden was killed, in his mind he was right along side them

Romney and McCain openly said they wouldn't give that order and mocked Obama for disagreeing with them.  There's plenty to attack Obama on, particularly if you're a conservative, but give the guy credit where credit it due.

Not bad.  I mean comparing a comedy to Obama.  Think about the similarities.  Chris Rock got Bambino elected.  :dunno:  No wonder Barry plays president like he's just in the movies.  I mean, people didn't really get killed in Benghazi.  I was just a movies.  It's not real.  Just like the veterans dying without proper care.

I won't say that this whole problem of veterans hospitals started with the witch doctor-in-office, but I will be waiting for him to cast another spell on the media as he moves around his appointees and passes out the bonuses after they have covered up enough evidence.

Yeah, I'll be able to give the WH godfather his credit where it's due.

Posted by grassman on May 23 2014,8:16 am
:laugh:

Posted by Common Citizen on May 23 2014,9:43 am

(irisheyes @ May 22 2014,5:16 pm)
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(MADDOG @ May 22 2014,12:23 pm)
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Bambino will tell us he's going to have his people look into the allegations and review their findings and after a week or so when he gets word all the evidence has been shredded, he'll call it a right wing conspiracy.

There are always policies that have to be changed with a health system as large as the VA, especially with all the stress put on it after our current never-ending wars.  But the veterans I've talked to are pleased with the VA system.  In fact, they have fewer complaints about the VA hospital than if you asked them about their local hospitals.

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He has no respect for our fallen.

Because of a wreath ceremony?  This reminds me of the movie Head of State where Chris Rock is running for President.  His opponent runs an attack ad saying that Chris Rock didn't attend the annual anti-cancer rally and then asks the question, "Is he against cancer, or for it?"  Then ends the add with, "[insert candidates name], he's for cancer."   :;):

Self-Banished:
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the only time he wants to be associated with the military is like when Bin Laden was killed, in his mind he was right along side them

Romney and McCain openly said they wouldn't give that order and mocked Obama for disagreeing with them.  There's plenty to attack Obama on, particularly if you're a conservative, but give the guy credit where credit it due.

After all, if the raid on Bin Laden's compound had been a failure you'd blame Obama, but it was a success.  Instead you'll attack him for not strapping on a flak jacket and pulling the trigger himself?   :p

You're not seriously minimizing the seriousness of this problem because of a few conversations you've had with some veterans are you? That is IF you even had those conversations.   :O

Sheesh.  I'm embarassed to admit that I even read your post...let alone respond to it.   :blush:

Posted by irisheyes on May 27 2014,7:18 am

(Common Citizen @ May 23 2014,9:43 am)
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You're not seriously minimizing the seriousness of this problem because of a few conversations you've had with some veterans are you? That is IF you even had those conversations.   :O

Sheesh.  I'm embarassed to admit that I even read your post...let alone respond to it.   :blush:

No CC, didn't mean it to come across that way, but sorry if it did.  You'll notice I said policies need to be changed, the VA is highly stressed, but there's no easy answers when it comes to doctor wait times currently, that's a similar story in most areas and hospitals.

Feel free to chime in on what you think, I'm pretty sure you're the only veteran in this thread.  I'd rather get feedback from health policy experts, doctors, and the patients of the VA than the chickenhawks in the media:  Rush, Hannity, Glenn Beck, the ghost of Brietbart, Ted Nugent, and O'Reilly have plenty to say about the VA, sadly they love the veterans but they're the first to want to send them to another war.   :(

Posted by Self-Banished on May 30 2014,2:42 pm
^^^ Maybe this is why the VA is "highly stressed"
The gov. pays more attention to grandpa getting his privates trimmed than they do the soldiers waiting on a supposed list.

< http://abcnews.go.com/US...3930665 >

Yep, this administration's priorities are right in line :sarcasm:

Posted by MADDOG on Jun. 04 2014,9:20 am
I'm not sure, but I think this bill requires the president to notify Congress before releasing terrorists.

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‘‘< National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2014’’ >
H. R. 3304—183

(d) NOTIFICATION.—The Secretary of Defense shall notify the
appropriate committees of Congress of a determination of the Secretary
under subsection (a) or (b) not later than 30 days before
the transfer or release of the individual under such subsection.
Each notification shall include, at a minimum, the following:
(1) A detailed statement of the basis for the transfer or
release.
(2) An explanation of why the transfer or release is in
the national security interests of the United States.
(3) A description of any actions taken to mitigate the risks
of reengagement by the individual to be transferred or released,
including any actions taken to address factors relevant to a
prior case of reengagement described in subsection ©(3).
(4) A copy of any Periodic Review Board findings relating
to the individual.
(5) A description of the evaluation conducted pursuant
to subsection ©, including a summary of the assessment
required by paragraph (6) of such subsection.


Oh, that' right.  They aren't terrorist.  Are they classified as detainees?

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Republicans have reacted harshly to the Obama administration’s decision to swap five top former Taliban commanders for Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, who was the sole American prisoner of war in Afghanistan. When it comes to the legality of the decision to do so, they have a point.

“The President also clearly violated laws which require him to notify Congress thirty days before any transfer of terrorists from Guantanamo Bay and to explain how the threat posed by such terrorists has been substantially mitigated,” House Armed Services Committee Chair Buck McKeon and his Senate counterpart, ranking member James Inhofe said in a statement shortly after Bergdahl’s release had been announced. “Our joy at Sergeant Berghdal’s release is tempered by the fact that President Obama chose to ignore the law, not to mention sound
policy, to achieve it.”

< MSNBC >


Another example of Bambino's NO-Accountability and ignorance of the law.

Posted by Glad I Left on Jun. 04 2014,9:26 am
I sure hope we implanted them with tracking devices or something...
Posted by MADDOG on Jun. 04 2014,3:42 pm
Why, you think Berdahl will sneak off again?
Posted by Glad I Left on Jun. 05 2014,8:00 am
LOL.
I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt (innocent until proven guilty) until a tribunal is formed to find out for sure the circumstances around his capture.
I have my suspicions as well about his being captured, but I wasn't there.
As for the 5 we let go, I hope we had explosive devices surgically implanted in them, remote detonation ability at the right time would be perfect ending.

Posted by irisheyes on Jun. 11 2014,10:22 am

(Self-Banished @ May 30 2014,2:42 pm)
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^^^ Maybe this is why the VA is "highly stressed"
The gov. pays more attention to grandpa getting his privates trimmed than they do the soldiers waiting on a supposed list.

< http://abcnews.go.com/US...3930665 >

Yep, this administration's priorities are right in line :sarcasm:

I don't think an HHS review board on Medicare sex change operations has much to do with the VA, or the administration's priorities.  When you read these articles, do you smell diesel exhaust at all?   :p
Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 11 2014,12:04 pm
The only link between them is gov. Should'nt that be enough?
Do you think before you post? :dunce:  :sarcasm:

Posted by irisheyes on Jun. 19 2014,8:10 am
^Sure, I guess it's all the same to you.  That's like these idiots that blame the county for things the city does, or blaming the federal government for state laws.

But go ahead, SB.  Send a letter to that HHS review board regarding a Medicare sex change and explain that they're to blame for the VA scandal in Arizona.   :dunce:  :rofl:

Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 19 2014,8:25 am
^^why, are you getting your parts trimmed???
This would not surprise me.

What I'm saying is that it seems that our whole system of gov. is broken. We've strayed too far from the oringinal intent.

Now go ahead and tell me that I don't understand and that what's going on is for our own good.

Posted by MADDOG on Jun. 19 2014,8:41 am
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Sure, I guess it's all the same to you.


Part of it is the same.  Apparently the feds through the HHS have enough money in their rolls to fund sex change operations for senior citizens who have decided after 60-70 years, they want to switch sides, but don't have the money or resources to properly fund VA clinics and hospitals.  Obviously the government is more concerned about an old man named Sue than a vet who need medical attention to possibly save or extend his life.

Tell me, after Sam becomes Sue does medicare do a prostrate exam with a vibrator?

Posted by Botto 82 on Jun. 19 2014,8:45 am

(Self-Banished @ Jun. 19 2014,8:25 am)
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What I'm saying is that it seems that our whole system of gov. is broken. We've strayed too far from the oringinal intent.

It IS broken, rampant with corruption, greed and cronyism. The problem is, things as they stand are beneficial for a few select corporate elites who don't want to change one damn thing. But as long as their corporate-controlled media keeps saying, "Everything is Awesome!" over and over again, and the bulk of the flock keeps buying it, nothing will ever change.
Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 19 2014,10:46 am
^^^ You got it...
Posted by MADDOG on Jun. 20 2014,4:25 pm
Ted Cruz's < The Legal Limit Report >

The Obama Administration's abuse of power illustrating the
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president's persistent pattern of lawlessness, his willingness to disregard the written law and instead enforce his own policies via executive fiat.

Posted by Expatriate on Jun. 20 2014,10:55 pm
Green eggs and a BIG ham, what a clown!
Posted by grassman on Jun. 20 2014,10:58 pm

(MADDOG @ Jun. 20 2014,4:25 pm)
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Ted Cruz's < The Legal Limit Report >

The Obama Administration's abuse of power illustrating the
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president's persistent pattern of lawlessness, his willingness to disregard the written law and instead enforce his own policies via executive fiat.

I think a lot of our so called laws have been written by lawless people. :hairpull:
Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 21 2014,5:30 am

(Expatriate @ Jun. 20 2014,10:55 pm)
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Green eggs and a BIG ham, what a clown!

Like this one?
Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 21 2014,6:43 am
For Expat...

< http://www.americanthinker.com/blog...at.html >

Posted by Expatriate on Jun. 21 2014,9:46 am
So you nutjobs are back on WMDs ! Now you’re hyped for war again but you haven’t paid for last two blunders yet!
Rightwing propagandists herd you weak minded wingers like sheep dogs!

Posted by Expatriate on Jun. 21 2014,10:21 am
:dunce:


Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 21 2014,11:55 am

(Expatriate @ Jun. 21 2014,9:46 am)
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So you nutjobs are back on WMDs ! Now you’re hyped for war again but you haven’t paid for last two blunders yet!
Rightwing propagandists herd you weak minded wingers like sheep dogs!

No, you and Alky are the big screamers of the "Bush lied and people died" chant. I just thought it interesting that it probably was disproved. :D

Guess it might be your turn for this :crazy:
But then again, I've always thought that :cool:

Posted by Expatriate on Jun. 21 2014,12:08 pm
weak, lame response, you get dumber by the day!
Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 21 2014,8:01 pm
^^^with that you call my response lame???

You poor dumb bastard :rofl:

Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 25 2014,11:08 am
Wow, GDP declines 2.9%
Stunning :sarcasm:

Posted by Self-Banished on Jul. 03 2014,7:47 am
I liked this yesterday, especially since it was on ABC's site.

< http://abcnews.go.com/Politic...com%2F >

Keep up the great work Mr. Tinhorn :rofl:

Posted by MADDOG on Jul. 03 2014,10:37 am
This could just as easily have been posted in the more crossings thread because it is about aliens crossing over our borders illegally making them illegal aliens.  But, because this situation was largely created by the one and only 'make myself feel good' president, I'm parking this here.  The no account president continues to show is disregard for law or the Constitution.

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Published: 20 June 2014 07:27 PM

AUSTIN  — Gov. Rick Perry on Friday wrote to one of his greatest political foes, President Barack Obama, inviting him to Texas to see what he called the “humanitarian crisis” unfolding as unaccompanied children pour across the border with Mexico illegally.

In a stern two-page letter, the Texas Republican asked the White House to send 1,000 additional National Guard troops with “arrest powers to support the Border Patrol,” as well as Lakota helicopters to South Texas, and to authorize the National Guard to use Predator drones to better combat drug and people smuggling.

Perry also wants the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to inspect facilities housing immigrants, especially children, who entered the U.S. illegally.

The missive came as the Obama administration announced it will open new detention facilities to house immigrant families. The federal government has been overwhelmed by waves of unaccompanied minors — mostly from Central America — who have been entering the United States in recent months. An estimated 47,000 unaccompanied children so far this budget year have crossed the border from Texas to Arizona in what Obama has himself called an “urgent humanitarian situation.”

< Dallas News >


Do 'ya suppose he'll accept the invite?  < He hasn't called >.

That would be a no-go from the < president duck and run >.

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