Topic: Welfare Pigs
started by: Self-Banished
Posted by Self-Banished on Oct. 15 2013,5:57 am
So there was an EBT card snafu this weekend. I guess with nearly 50 million Obama voter on food stamps this reaction would be expected. 
< http://www.ksla.com/story...-glitch >
Posted by This is my real name on Oct. 15 2013,8:22 am
I read the article on a different site. Apparently, in Louisiana EBT cards have a daily limit of $50 per person, which brings up a curious point.Why such a low daily limit? Don't EBT cards work the same way as food stamps, with families receiving a set amount per month? I worked in a grocery store years ago, and we never had a limit on how much any one customer could spend in food stamps. Whether they wanted to buy groceries for that day or for the whole month, it was up to them. But once the food stamps were gone, they had to wait until the first of the month.
With a $50 limit, they would have to make multiple trips to the grocery store. They could not buy food for the whole week on one visit. This would also generate more work for the government agency processing the EBT paperwork... and never mind, I think I've just discovered why the daily limit—government creating government jobs.
Is there anyone posting here who works in retail or in human services who would know why there would be a daily limit instead of a set value for the month? Is it so the EBT card users have to budget the money they receive on the card so they don't eat like kings for a week and then eat ramen noodles for three weeks?
Posted by MADDOG on Oct. 15 2013,9:15 am
(This is my real name @ Oct. 15 2013,8:22 am)
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Is there anyone posting here who works in retail or in human services who would know why there would be a daily limit instead of a set value for the month? Is it so the EBT card users have to budget the money they receive on the card so they don't eat like kings for a week and then eat ramen noodles for three weeks?
I would guess it's more to help in the case of lost or stolen cards. There is likely a set amount on your cash card (although a much higher amount) through your bank also.
Posted by This is my real name on Oct. 15 2013,9:24 am
I guess I hadn't considered loss limitations. That does make sense. I wonder if those cards also have a PIN for users to enter as a means of verification.
Posted by grassman on Oct. 15 2013,9:55 am
My guess would be that each card has an identification of each holder. This should give them means of exactly who took advantage of this particular mix up. Therefore each and every one involved should be held accountable and kicked off the system. Talk about not having any gratitude. 
Posted by Expatriate on Oct. 15 2013,10:03 am
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Therefore each and every one involved should be held accountable and kicked off the system. Talk about not having any gratitude.
^
agreed, these people know right from wrong!
Posted by This is my real name on Oct. 15 2013,10:11 am
(grassman @ Oct. 15 2013,9:55 am)
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My guess would be that each card has an identification of each holder. This should give them means of exactly who took advantage of this particular mix up. Therefore each and every one involved should be held accountable and kicked off the system. Talk about not having any gratitude.
That would be great if they did that. However, given today's entitlement society, I am guessing that would be unlikely. Someone whose job depends on the votes of people like this would call it a violation of their civil rights.
Posted by Self-Banished on Oct. 15 2013,11:06 am
We'll, if they over spent say $3000 and they had a limit of say $500 a month just tell them "see you in the spring pal, that's when you'll have money on your card again" of course if they have children or whine a lot the gov will say naughty, naughty, don't do that again and reload their card next month.I'm pretty sure there's a certain voter type that gets these cards
Posted by This is my real name on Oct. 15 2013,11:25 am
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I'm pretty sure there's a certain voter type that gets these cards
And that is why that party doesn't do anything to help the poor OUT of poverty. If they can keep them dependent on the government by handing out entitlements, they'll keep getting their votes—and ensure job growth and security. Meanwhile, they demonize the selfish, rich people from the other party for not wanting them to have a lifetime of handouts. Why teach a man to fish when the taxpayers can give him a fish everyday?
Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Oct. 15 2013,12:43 pm
The $50.00 a day is a backup procedure in case of an EBT system failure.< Welfare bottom feeders >
Police in two north Louisiana cities won't investigate fraudulent food stamp purchases made at local Wal-Marts this weekend unless asked by the retailer, law enforcement representatives said Tuesday.
The fraudulent purchases were made at the Springhill and Mansfield locations during a massive system-wide outage on Saturday (Oct. 12). Wal-Mart spokeswoman Kayla Whaling said the retailer instructed cashiers at the two locations to continue sales to Electronic Benefits Transfer, or EBT, Card holders in spite of the outage.
Some benefits recipients spent well in excess of their balances, but investigations into the "isolated incidents" at the two Louisiana locations have not yet been initiated.
"Wal-Mart has not contacted our office at all," said Gary Hobbs, assistant chief of police for the city of Mansfield in DeSoto Parish. He said police would be very willing to investigate the matter if Wal-Mart files a complaint and hands over any pertinent evidence.
Xerox, a contractor in charge of EBT Cards, has an emergency backup procedure in place that allows retailers to call Xerox and authorize up to $50 in purchases per recipient during such outages.
The Wal-Mart locations in Springhill and Mansfield did not act in accordance with the procedure. Going forward, it's up to the retailer to decide whether to eat the costs of fraudulent purchases or instruct local police to investigate the improper EBT charges.
Hobbs said he believed there would definitely be "legal culpability" on the part of food stamp recipients who overcharged their cards. But, he added he did not expect the retail chain to go forward with the investigation.
Springhill Chief of Police Will Lynd, on the other hand, said it wouldn't shock him if Wal-Mart did initiate an investigation "in the near future." At this time, however, his office is not taking any further steps on the issue.
Local police and Wal-Mart officials did not have any preliminary estimates on the total amount of the fraudulent charges. But, state agency officials said taxpayers won't be on the hook for the purchases.
Posted by This is my real name on Oct. 15 2013,1:41 pm
So how's that for irony? The $50 limit in place in case of system failure was temporarily suspended due to system failure.
Posted by pepi-lapew on Oct. 17 2013,8:30 am
Just like that dumb broad out east had 47 cents left on her wal-mart card, but tried to by $1200.00 worth of groc. on it just another welfare pig trying to screw the system
Posted by Joink on Oct. 18 2013,9:16 am
Is everyone that needs our help a "welfare pig"? Or only those that we don't like the way they look?
Posted by grassman on Oct. 18 2013,9:21 am
I don't think anyone mentioned looks, it is more about actions.
Posted by MADDOG on Oct. 18 2013,1:50 pm
(Joink @ Oct. 18 2013,9:16 am)
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Is everyone that needs our help a "welfare pig"?
I suppose we could start with the 4.5 million recipients on SNAP who are ABAWDs.
Posted by Self-Banished on Oct. 19 2013,10:23 am
The gov. Says Walmart has to pay for this.We all know who'll pay for this, Walmart will just bump their prices.
Posted by grassman on Oct. 19 2013,9:56 pm
(Self-Banished @ Oct. 19 2013,10:23 am)
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The gov. Says Walmart has to pay for this.
We all know who'll pay for this, Walmart will just bump their prices.
We all know who'll pay for this, Walmart will just bump their prices.
Now we all know Walmart slashes their prices.
Now, if you want to talk about looks.
Posted by MADDOG on Oct. 23 2013,12:33 pm
Beginning in November them bad republicans are going to slash SNAP benefits.Back in September, House republicans pushed through a bill that cut billions of dollars from the food assistance program. (I'm using a < N.Y. Times > articles for effect.
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House Republicans narrowly pushed through a bill on Thursday that slashes billions of dollars from the food stamp program, over the objections of Democrats and a veto threat from President Obama.
Republican leaders, under pressure from Tea Party-backed conservatives, said the bill was needed because the food stamp program, which costs nearly $80 billion a year, had grown out of control. They said the program had expanded even as jobless rates had declined with the easing recession.
“This bill eliminates loopholes, ensures work requirements, and puts us on a fiscally responsible path”said Representative Marlin Stutzman, Republican of Indiana.
Republican leaders, under pressure from Tea Party-backed conservatives, said the bill was needed because the food stamp program, which costs nearly $80 billion a year, had grown out of control. They said the program had expanded even as jobless rates had declined with the easing recession.
“This bill eliminates loopholes, ensures work requirements, and puts us on a fiscally responsible path”said Representative Marlin Stutzman, Republican of Indiana.
It will equate to a $36/month cut and force able bodied adults to find a job or to enroll in a work-training program in order to receive benefits.
Posted by twingroves on Oct. 23 2013,1:14 pm
if you don't feed the pigs they will steal from you and me so the tax payer will lose no matter what they do heres to the pigs 
Posted by Self-Banished on Oct. 23 2013,1:33 pm
^ steal from me? 
Posted by alcitizens on Oct. 23 2013,11:03 pm
Republicans will always be the party of the rich.. 
Posted by Self-Banished on Oct. 24 2013,1:40 am
(alcitizens @ Oct. 23 2013,11:03 pm)
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Republicans will always be the party of the rich..
This should help,
< http://pjmedia.com/tatler...mocrats >
Posted by pepi-lapew on Oct. 24 2013,7:07 am
Some one has to be rich to keep the GOV. plantation going, so the low lifes get all the free stuf from the GOV. 
Posted by Self-Banished on Oct. 27 2013,9:05 am
This is a welfare pig.< http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bavou_SEj1E >
Posted by irisheyes on Oct. 28 2013,11:32 am
^Lee Atwater's southern strategy still lives on. Republican strategists can't use racial slurs or scares of forced busing anymore. So in the 80's they started talking about prison furloughs and welfare queens.Nope, no racism going on with these youtube videos. Just keep votin' republican.
Posted by MADDOG on Oct. 28 2013,12:26 pm
Posted by Self-Banished on Oct. 28 2013,12:52 pm
(irisheyes @ Oct. 28 2013,11:32 am)
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^Lee Atwater's southern strategy still lives on. Republican strategists can't use racial slurs or scares of forced busing anymore. So in the 80's they started talking about prison furloughs and welfare queens.
Nope, no racism going on with these youtube videos. Just keep votin' republican.
Nope, no racism going on with these youtube videos. Just keep votin' republican.
Oh you bleeding heart
Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Oct. 29 2013,8:31 am
(irisheyes @ Oct. 28 2013,11:32 am)
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^Lee Atwater's southern strategy still lives on. Republican strategists can't use racial slurs or scares of forced busing anymore. So in the 80's they started talking about prison furloughs and welfare queens.
Nope, no racism going on with these youtube videos. Just keep votin' republican.
Nope, no racism going on with these youtube videos. Just keep votin' republican.
Oh, boo hoo.
Labels are not racist if the terminology fits and is factual. Are you denying that welfare queens exist? Have we gotten to the point where a fact can be racist? Political correctness is for the weak minded as well as the often over used charge of racism..
Posted by alcitizens on Oct. 29 2013,9:29 am
There are drug addicts with children that get EBT cards.. Those drug addicts sell their EBT cards for drugs while their kids go hungry, sad but true..Most are hard working mothers trying to make a better life for their kids.. Minimum wage doesn't pay for squat..
Posted by Self-Banished on Oct. 29 2013,9:46 am
(alcitizens @ Oct. 29 2013,9:29 am)
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There are drug addicts with children that get EBT cards.. Those drug addicts sell their EBT cards for drugs while their kids go hungry, sad but true..
Most are hard working mothers trying to make a better life for their kids.. Minimum wage doesn't pay for squat..
Most are hard working mothers trying to make a better life for their kids.. Minimum wage doesn't pay for squat..
If these drug addicts choose to sell their EBT cards I guess there's nothing we can do about it.
As far as Mommy being a hard worker? Good for her, but maybe she should have been a little more descriet in choosing someone to mate with or even practiced a little birth control. Her problems should not become mine.
Drug addicts being good mothers??? Hardly.
Posted by alcitizens on Oct. 29 2013,10:11 am
(Self-Banished @ Oct. 29 2013,9:46 am)
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(alcitizens @ Oct. 29 2013,9:29 am)
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There are drug addicts with children that get EBT cards.. Those drug addicts sell their EBT cards for drugs while their kids go hungry, sad but true..
Most are hard working mothers trying to make a better life for their kids.. Minimum wage doesn't pay for squat..
Most are hard working mothers trying to make a better life for their kids.. Minimum wage doesn't pay for squat..
If these drug addicts choose to sell their EBT cards I guess there's nothing we can do about it.
As far as Mommy being a hard worker? Good for her, but maybe she should have been a little more descriet in choosing someone to mate with or even practiced a little birth control. Her problems should not become mine.
Drug addicts being good mothers??? Hardly.
Sorry that my post didn't draw you a detailed picture.. Most women with kids are not drug addicts or sell their EBT cards for drugs.. Most are good women that don't do drugs and don't have the means to provide fully for her children or a father that will help provide..
I'm sorry that you were never loved or provided for as a child..
Posted by Self-Banished on Oct. 29 2013,10:22 am
But I was loved and PROVIDED FOR as a child, my parents were responsible and hard working. They had 3 children and made sure they could care for them.Just because one is able to reproduce doesn't mean they should.
Just because two people reproduce doesn't mean I (through my taxes) have to provide for them.
Just because I succeed in life should not mean I have to give to someone else because they have not succeeded or have been irresponsible.
Posted by alcitizens on Oct. 29 2013,10:39 am
(Self-Banished @ Oct. 29 2013,10:22 am)
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But I was loved and PROVIDED FOR as a child, my parents were responsible and hard working. They had 3 children and made sure they could care for them.
Just because one is able to reproduce doesn't mean they should.
Just because two people reproduce doesn't mean I (through my taxes) have to provide for them.
Just because I succeed in life should not mean I have to give to someone else because they have not succeeded or have been irresponsible.
Just because one is able to reproduce doesn't mean they should.
Just because two people reproduce doesn't mean I (through my taxes) have to provide for them.
Just because I succeed in life should not mean I have to give to someone else because they have not succeeded or have been irresponsible.
What should we do as a society for the kids that haven't been provided for or loved?
Posted by Self-Banished on Oct. 29 2013,11:03 am
^sometimes tough love has to be used instead of cuddling themUsed to be that the church charities took care of the despondent, but they've been demonized by the gov.
Maybe if there were consequences for poor or irresponsible behavior we wouldn't have these problems.
Posted by alcitizens on Oct. 29 2013,11:19 am
(Self-Banished @ Oct. 29 2013,11:03 am)
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^sometimes tough love has to be used instead of cuddling them
Used to be that the church charities took care of the despondent, but they've been demonized by the gov.
Maybe if there were consequences for poor or irresponsible behavior we wouldn't have these problems.
Used to be that the church charities took care of the despondent, but they've been demonized by the gov.
Maybe if there were consequences for poor or irresponsible behavior we wouldn't have these problems.
What church would take care of what you call the "despondent"?
Are you saying birth control and abortions would be cool with you?
Posted by Self-Banished on Oct. 29 2013,11:38 am
I'm not in favor of birth control but what a women does with her body is none of my business. What church? Never heard of the Catholic Church? Lutherns?
Posted by Self-Banished on Oct. 29 2013,6:38 pm
My my, some cuts coming Friday
Posted by MADDOG on Oct. 29 2013,7:19 pm
(MADDOG @ Oct. 23 2013,12:33 pm)
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Beginning in November them bad republicans are going to slash SNAP benefits.
Back in September, House republicans pushed through a bill that cut billions of dollars from the food assistance program. (I'm using a < N.Y. Times > articles for effect. )
It will equate to a $36/month cut and force able bodied adults to find a job or to enroll in a work-training program in order to receive benefits.
Back in September, House republicans pushed through a bill that cut billions of dollars from the food assistance program. (I'm using a < N.Y. Times > articles for effect.
)QUOTE
House Republicans narrowly pushed through a bill on Thursday that slashes billions of dollars from the food stamp program, over the objections of Democrats and a veto threat from President Obama.
Republican leaders, under pressure from Tea Party-backed conservatives, said the bill was needed because the food stamp program, which costs nearly $80 billion a year, had grown out of control. They said the program had expanded even as jobless rates had declined with the easing recession.
“This bill eliminates loopholes, ensures work requirements, and puts us on a fiscally responsible path”said Representative Marlin Stutzman, Republican of Indiana.
Republican leaders, under pressure from Tea Party-backed conservatives, said the bill was needed because the food stamp program, which costs nearly $80 billion a year, had grown out of control. They said the program had expanded even as jobless rates had declined with the easing recession.
“This bill eliminates loopholes, ensures work requirements, and puts us on a fiscally responsible path”said Representative Marlin Stutzman, Republican of Indiana.
It will equate to a $36/month cut and force able bodied adults to find a job or to enroll in a work-training program in order to receive benefits.
That's what I said last week.
Oh and before I forget. I am like ssssssssoooooo pizzed off at you.
Posted by irisheyes on Oct. 29 2013,8:10 pm
(Grinning_Dragon @ Oct. 29 2013,8:31 am)
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Oh, boo hoo.
Labels are not racist if the terminology fits and is factual. Are you denying that welfare queens exist? Have we gotten to the point where a fact can be racist? Political correctness is for the weak minded as well as the often over used charge of racism..
Labels are not racist if the terminology fits and is factual. Are you denying that welfare queens exist? Have we gotten to the point where a fact can be racist? Political correctness is for the weak minded as well as the often over used charge of racism..
So, if I call someone a racial slur under your logic it isn't necessarily racist. Many of them came from factual or historical basis. It would not be racist as long as I can make it factual.
I'm not saying S.B. or you are racist, but I'll point out the obvious on a political strategy, which is why I brought up Lee Atwater. Because something is based in fact doesn't ignore the undertones that get people riled up. Someone posts about welfare pigs and the picture is a black man at a car show, can't find that post anymore. You can spin it into a Willie Horton type ad and call it factual, because it is, but I'll call it what it is. Race is the reason this stuff goes viral on Facebook and forums.
I won't ignore the motivating idea that's behind a Willie Horton ad, a birther claim, or a woman with bad grammar that goes viral. It's based in fact, but it's the racial part that makes it go viral.
Posted by Self-Banished on Oct. 30 2013,4:32 am
Here IE, feel better now?
Posted by Self-Banished on Oct. 30 2013,4:42 am
Oops! We can't forget this "national treasure"< http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/honey-boo-boo-nation/ >
Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Oct. 30 2013,7:12 am
There is truth as to what Mr. Penn Jillette is saying.
Posted by Self-Banished on Oct. 30 2013,7:59 am
^I always like Penn, pretty wise dude.
Posted by Self-Banished on Nov. 01 2013,4:52 am
DHS is supposedly preparing for food stamp riots today, There's going to be a cut in benefits starting today. For a family of four the cut would be $36. The gov. Might have to quell violence today, wow, there's just something really wrong with that premise.
Maybe that's why the DHS has become so heavily armed.
< http://m.youtube.com/watch?v...vcb-pqs >
Posted by MADDOG on Nov. 01 2013,4:57 pm
They say there is always two sides to every story. So when you have Welfare Pigs, you also have to have Enablers. You know, the ones who put a big-asp sticker across the window of their store "WE ACCEPT EBT" The business that knows some things aren't eligible, but can run the sales through another transaction. The ones who watches the mother sent her kids in to buy multiple one items and return with the change so she can buy cigarettes. You've all seen them.We've already discussed Walmart and their welfare fraud escapade. Evidently, someone thought they could get away with this robbery. What person with any moral character at all would do something like happened there? These people have likely lived their whole lives similar to what they did. They knew they were stealing from people who are forced the pay for their choice of lifestyles in most cases. They have no sense of right and wrong when it comes to government aid. When they were given this opportunity to take, why would they change their character. And why would a retail giant like Walmart tell their employees to keep ringing the till unless they themselves thought there was a chance that the taxpayer would in the end pick up the tab?
Walmart was an Enabler.
Go back to the store with the big sign. It's the store that does the change shift. It's the store that watches the sale or trading of EBT funds from inside the storefront. The one who sells wine and cigarettes to the EBT holder. The Enabler.
I wonder how many stores in lower income neighborhoods would go out of business if they were not allowed to accept the EBTs? The stores that profit from welfare spenders.
We are not a welfare country because of the looters in Walmart or the lady buying smokes with the change made from her kids buying small items in the store. We are a welfare country because we Enable. We have a parasitic economic infestation on top. A welfare infrastucture of Government workers whose livelihood depends on welfare recipients to administer free help to. We have a welfare infrastructure of non-profit organizations lobbying and cashing in on grants from the federal government and state. We have a welfare infrastructure of corporations and businesses making money from it on the retail end.
The Walmarts of this country who condone the type of behavior that happened down south and the grocer who stands blindly by as fraud happens are just as big of a part of the welfare state of this country as the government which encourages it. We have a welfare state. A liberal governing body of Enablers.
We also have a growing welfare economy backed by for-profit and non-profit lobbies supported by the party that reeks of the desire of a socialized state.
The problem isn’t just welfare abusers, it’s the Enablers.
Posted by grassman on Nov. 01 2013,5:55 pm
So, what is your opinion on people who work for cash and the ones that hire them? 
Posted by MADDOG on Nov. 01 2013,7:08 pm
Working for cash and applying for food stamps because they don't claim the income?
Posted by grassman on Nov. 01 2013,8:31 pm
No add ons, just working for cash, under the table. No reporting of income, just in the pocket.
Posted by Self-Banished on Nov. 02 2013,4:04 am
^Enterprising.
Posted by MADDOG on Nov. 02 2013,5:56 am
(grassman @ Nov. 01 2013,8:31 pm)
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No add ons, just working for cash, under the table. No reporting of income, just in the pocket.
No add ons? No federal or state assistance, just working for cash.
I have to agree with SB to a degree, but that doesn't make it right. The person may not be taking government handouts, but this person is also not contributing to the tax base either. This person is half-way. In between.
I don't think anyone here believes we should pay no taxes.
Posted by Self-Banished on Nov. 02 2013,6:28 am
Yes, I agree, but we pay far too much in taxes
Posted by Botto 82 on Nov. 02 2013,6:55 am
(Self-Banished @ Nov. 02 2013,6:28 am)
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Yes, I agree, but we pay far too much in taxes
And we will continue to. We don't care enough to change things. Today is only marginally worse than yesterday. Watch some football. And so on.
Posted by Self-Banished on Nov. 02 2013,7:38 am
Oh I agree, we're too content or too busy in our lives to do anything. Our taxes are also so spread out that we don't feel their sting either.Ending withholding would be the ticket, having everyone have to send in a check quarterly. This would "twist their tit"
Posted by grassman on Nov. 02 2013,7:48 am
You see, that is part of the problem. Everyone has their idea of sacred cows. Some work for cash and don't pay, say a thousand in. Some hide money off shore and don't pay a hundred thousand in. Multiply that by the number you honestly think are playing that game. Meanwhile us honest people, are picking up the tab. Sad how morality goes out the window when it comes to money.
Posted by Self-Banished on Nov. 02 2013,4:39 pm
^ so you're saying if you where to sell say a used car part to a guy you'd report it as income on your taxes?
Posted by grassman on Nov. 02 2013,7:50 pm
Ok SB you are splitting hairs and you know it. Don't fog the issue with it. If you are not in the business of selling parts, you will not be selling many,right? Some work for cash, strictly. Someone can work for you up to $600 before you 1099 them. Who follows that and HOW MANY DON'T!
Posted by Self-Banished on Nov. 03 2013,12:51 am
I thought the limit was $750
Posted by alcitizens on Nov. 03 2013,8:19 am
People that own a business and people that work for cash don't earn unemployment benefits or social security benefits.. If you don't pay in, you don't get the benefits..
Posted by MADDOG on Nov. 03 2013,8:47 am
You're close.QUOTE
Subd. 9.< Business owners. >
(a) Wage credits from an employer may not be used for unemployment benefit purposes by any applicant who:
(1) individually, jointly, or in combination with the applicant's spouse, parent, or child owns or controls directly or indirectly 25 percent or more interest in the employer; or
(2) is the spouse, parent, or minor child of any individual who owns or controls directly or indirectly 25 percent or more interest in the employer.
This subdivision is effective when the applicant has been paid five times the applicant's weekly unemployment benefit amount in the current benefit year. This subdivision does not apply if the applicant had wages paid in covered employment of $7,500 or more from the employer covered by this subdivision in each of the 16 calendar quarters prior to the effective date of the benefit account and all taxes due on those wages have been paid.
(b) An officer of a taxpaying employer referred to in section 268.046, subdivision 1, is subject to the limitations of this subdivision.
(a) Wage credits from an employer may not be used for unemployment benefit purposes by any applicant who:
(1) individually, jointly, or in combination with the applicant's spouse, parent, or child owns or controls directly or indirectly 25 percent or more interest in the employer; or
(2) is the spouse, parent, or minor child of any individual who owns or controls directly or indirectly 25 percent or more interest in the employer.
This subdivision is effective when the applicant has been paid five times the applicant's weekly unemployment benefit amount in the current benefit year. This subdivision does not apply if the applicant had wages paid in covered employment of $7,500 or more from the employer covered by this subdivision in each of the 16 calendar quarters prior to the effective date of the benefit account and all taxes due on those wages have been paid.
(b) An officer of a taxpaying employer referred to in section 268.046, subdivision 1, is subject to the limitations of this subdivision.
Posted by Self-Banished on Nov. 03 2013,9:04 am
(alcitizens @ Nov. 03 2013,8:19 am)
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People that own a business and people that work for cash don't earn unemployment benefits or social security benefits.. If you don't pay in, you don't get the benefits..
I assure you, business owners have to pay into social security,dearly.
Posted by alcitizens on Nov. 03 2013,9:14 am
(Self-Banished @ Nov. 03 2013,9:04 am)
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(alcitizens @ Nov. 03 2013,8:19 am)
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People that own a business and people that work for cash don't earn unemployment benefits or social security benefits.. If you don't pay in, you don't get the benefits..
I assure you, business owners have to pay into social security,dearly.
Prove it..
You just proved that you work for someone else.. You are not self employed.. You are a fraud..
Posted by Self-Banished on Nov. 03 2013,11:59 am
Prove it? I think I'll decline from showing you my taxes. I receive between 4 to 7 1099's every year. I am a contractor, I have to mail out 1099's on sub contractors. I have to check the mailbox daily for checks and sometimes mail out "friendly reminders" . I've been doing this for 29 years now, if I'm not a business owner then what am I?
Posted by Self-Banished on Nov. 03 2013,12:29 pm
Here, chew on this awhile< http://www.ssa.gov/pubs/EN-05-10022.pdf >
Posted by alcitizens on Nov. 03 2013,1:48 pm
Sounds like you work for the Government..
Posted by Self-Banished on Nov. 03 2013,2:12 pm
(alcitizens @ Nov. 03 2013,1:48 pm)
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Sounds like you work for the Government..
Yeah, pretty much, some years it feels like I support the whole lot of them.
You come off as especially angry today.
Did you pet sheep die?
Posted by alcitizens on Nov. 03 2013,6:29 pm
Pit Bulls can be very sweet until they decide to rip your throat out.. Kind of like your girlfriend Miss MooMoo.. 
Posted by Self-Banished on Nov. 03 2013,8:18 pm
Pit bulls? Are you trying to say something?
Posted by alcitizens on Nov. 04 2013,6:56 pm
(Self-Banished @ Nov. 03 2013,8:18 pm)
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Pit bulls? Are you trying to say something?
I'm a Pit Bull.. Palin is a half term Governor without brains..
Posted by MADDOG on Nov. 04 2013,8:54 pm
(alcitizens @ Nov. 03 2013,6:29 pm)
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Kind of like your girlfriend Miss MooMoo..
Palin??
SB, maybe the pitbull likes your Miss MooMoo?
Posted by Self-Banished on Nov. 05 2013,3:59 am
Looks like Alky had fun yesterday on his birthday
Posted by grassman on Nov. 05 2013,5:48 am
,,,and this little piggie cried wee, wee, wee all the way home. 
Posted by MADDOG on Nov. 05 2013,5:56 am
(Self-Banished @ Nov. 05 2013,3:59 am)
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Looks like Alky had fun yesterday on his birthday
Oh man! That's just plain disgusting.
Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Nov. 07 2013,3:17 pm
Looks like those losers are going to loose their benefits. < YAY! >
Posted by Self-Banished on Nov. 07 2013,3:52 pm
(Grinning_Dragon @ Nov. 07 2013,3:17 pm)
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Looks like those losers are going to loose their benefits.
< YAY! >
< YAY! >
How about that, a little justice, good for Jindahl
Posted by MADDOG on Nov. 07 2013,4:47 pm
We'll see how long this works until Bambino and family use the old adage of conservatives waging war on the poor.Until then...