Topic: sign
started by: twingroves
Posted by twingroves on Aug. 02 2012,8:16 pm
saw mels sign looks nice speaks the truth
Posted by Liberal on Aug. 02 2012,10:38 pm
He's an attention starved old kook.
Posted by ControlledHyperness on Aug. 02 2012,10:46 pm
He has made quite the stir in the paper and over on 6new's facebook page with it... 
Posted by just darn tired on Aug. 02 2012,11:08 pm
The more attention he gets the more he wants.
Posted by Botto 82 on Aug. 02 2012,11:19 pm
Mel and Carol Bybee and Paul Westrum. Some of the finest kooks A.L. has to offer. 
Posted by Botto 82 on Aug. 02 2012,11:20 pm
< Carol Bybee is Albert Lea's Reigning Queen of Nuttery >
Posted by This is my real name on Aug. 03 2012,6:50 am
(Liberal @ Aug. 02 2012,10:38 pm)
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He's an attention starved old kook.
Agreed. He reminds me of the goofy notices that Gordy Hanson used to regularly place in the Shopper, except exponentially more tasteless.
Posted by twingroves on Aug. 03 2012,7:06 am
he might be a old kook but he speeks the truth
Posted by pepi-lapew on Aug. 03 2012,7:56 am
I belive Mal has a right under freedom of speech.All!!!! CO. should have to E-VERFY every employee from pres. to janitor. If there here illegaly send them all packing.So they can wait in line like the ones who come here the right way.
Posted by twingroves on Aug. 03 2012,8:23 am
right on 
Posted by MADDOG on Aug. 03 2012,8:51 am
Mal:QUOTE
speaks the truth
He has made quite the stir in the paper
Mel(Mal) has a right under freedom of speach(speech)
He has made quite the stir in the paper
Mel(Mal) has a right under freedom of speach(speech)
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All!!!! CO. should have to E-VERFY every employee from pres. to janitor. If there here illegaly send them all packing.So they can wait in line like the ones who come here the right way.
Posted by Blackdog on Aug. 03 2012,8:53 am
Excellent job Mel!!!! 
Their all stealing from us!!!
Posted by Wolfie on Aug. 03 2012,9:56 am
It shouldn't matter if your Heidi Kluhm (German), Micheal J Fox(Canadian) or Juan Valdeaz (made up coffee commercial South American), if you are in the country illegally you should be arrested and sent packing. I don't know about anyone else but for me its the law breaking illegal part of the equation, not the country of origin. Do it the right way or face the consequences.
Posted by This is my real name on Aug. 03 2012,9:56 am
As tasteless as Mal can be, I do agree with the idea that his sign is conveying. But much of what he does seems to be calling attention to himself. It gets people talking - about him.Remember the fiasco with Grace Schwab and Pam Folkens "stealing" letters from the yellow sign he parked in the Northbridge Mall parking lot? (Actually, they removed them after trying to reach him to remove the sign himself - since they didn't want that sign associated with the mall.) It turned into an issue over his Freedom of Speech. Someone else's property trumped his Freedom of Speech there (though they may have had to pay for the allegedly "damaged" letters, I don't recall).
Now with his sign on his own property, he can pretty much anything he wants. I wonder how often he'll change it. Perhaps he'll call out some of our local leaders, and be smart enough not to mention their specific names to avoid any potential lawsuits. We'll see. At the very least, it should be interesting whether or not we agree with whatever he is saying that day.
Posted by Liberal on Aug. 03 2012,10:05 am
The anti-Mexican posters sure seem to struggle with the English language. I'd guess if I were too stupid to spell 4 and 5 letter words I might be worried about an immigrant taking my job too.
Posted by This is my real name on Aug. 03 2012,10:31 am
(Liberal @ Aug. 03 2012,10:05 am)
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The anti-Mexican posters sure seem to struggle with the English language. I'd guess if I were too stupid to spell 4 and 5 letter words I might be worried about an immigrant taking my job too.
I was just waiting for one of them to mention non-English speaking people.
Posted by twingroves on Aug. 03 2012,10:57 am
its not if you know how to spell in english or not its if you are here illegally or not keep up the good work mel
Posted by twingroves on Aug. 03 2012,5:21 pm
just read in the paper that the city said every thing is legal they can not do anything about it good work mel heres to all the people that are going to protest 
Posted by countryboy on Aug. 03 2012,5:38 pm
(Liberal @ Aug. 03 2012,10:05 am)
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The anti-Mexican posters sure seem to struggle with the English language. I'd guess if I were too stupid to spell 4 and 5 letter words I might be worried about an immigrant taking my job too.
Really, that all you got? Your nuts!
Posted by hairhertz on Aug. 03 2012,6:24 pm
your nuts or you're nuts [which one?]
Posted by Botto 82 on Aug. 03 2012,7:36 pm
HH, the education system isn't what it once was.
Posted by Botto 82 on Aug. 03 2012,7:41 pm
If Mal Prinzing and Paul Westrum are the poster children for your movement, then what does that say?
Posted by twingroves on Aug. 03 2012,7:47 pm
at lest they can speak english
Posted by Moparman on Aug. 03 2012,7:59 pm
(Liberal @ Aug. 03 2012,10:05 am)
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The anti-Mexican posters sure seem to struggle with the English language. I'd guess if I were too stupid to spell 4 and 5 letter words I might be worried about an immigrant taking my job too.
Or if your to stupid not know the difference between an illegal immigrant and an immigrant. Stupid people tend to leave the word illegal out of their "anti-Mexican" accusations.
Posted by Botto 82 on Aug. 03 2012,8:17 pm
(twingroves @ Aug. 03 2012,7:47 pm)
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at lest they can speak english
Not very well.
This whole debate is nothing more than racist leanings masquerading as concern for lost jobs. If Mal and his F-tard ilk were really concerned about lost jobs, they'd be picketing Walmart as well. More american jobs have been lost due to Walmart's actions than to illegals.
Don't blame the people trying to survive by exploiting lax ICE enforcement. Blame the corporations that hire them. But I'm not holding my breath. I doubt Paul Westrum has the cajones to mess with Hormel Foods.
Posted by ControlledHyperness on Aug. 03 2012,8:19 pm
(Moparman @ Aug. 03 2012,7:59 pm)
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(Liberal @ Aug. 03 2012,10:05 am)
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The anti-Mexican posters sure seem to struggle with the English language. I'd guess if I were too stupid to spell 4 and 5 letter words I might be worried about an immigrant taking my job too.
Or if your to stupid not know the difference between an illegal immigrant and an immigrant. Stupid people tend to leave the word illegal out of their "anti-Mexican" accusations.
That can be said both ways...more often than not, the illegal immigrants fail to keep the word "illegal" in their terminology.
Posted by Liberal on Aug. 03 2012,8:37 pm
The problem with the sign is that it singles out one group of illegal immigrants, Si?
Posted by grassman on Aug. 03 2012,10:40 pm
Is that kind of like, we only dislike ax murderers. Right? 
Politically Correctness sucks. Call it what it is.
Posted by usmcr on Aug. 04 2012,10:17 am
what is there to not understand the difference between legal & illegal immigration?i for one do not understand how illegal immigrants feel they are eligible for the same benefits as legal immigrants. there is a long process to obtain legal status but by doing so the immigrant obtains a feeling of what it means to be a u.s. citizen. this whole mess is very complex but when it is boiled down to what is legal & what is illegal it seems rather straight forward! i personally see nothing wrong with the sign terminology. it was previously mentioned that the spanish community would take offense of the terminology. i would think that any person of spanish decent that was in this country legally would support this thinking. from what is have seen of the long time spanish community in a.lea they have embraced the american way of life & the english language as a whole. i view this problem not as an ethnic one but as what is legal & what is not! reverse this situation & see how far you would get in mexico! i am under the opinion that many industries, particularly the packing plants benefited from the cheap labor. this situation (illegal immigration) has become so huge that it is now practically unmanageable & is costing the u.s. taxpayers an unknown amount of tax dollars.
this is just my humble opinion!
Posted by SlapMyMonkey on Aug. 04 2012,11:38 am
If the guy wants to waste his time and money making up signs let him. The more you pay attention to the guy, your showing him the attention he's seeking.If he was really concerned about something around here. He should be making up signs about how our city government screws us, because our city leaders are the one F'in us over more than illegals abusing the system. In this small town anyways.
Posted by Botto 82 on Aug. 04 2012,12:19 pm
(usmcr @ Aug. 04 2012,10:17 am)
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it was previously mentioned that the spanish community would take offense of the terminology. i would think that any person of spanish decent that was in this country legally would support this thinking.
*BUZZ* I'm sorry, that's incorrect, but thanks for playing.
Seriously, I know a legal Mexican immigrant who helps illegals. He's a big wheel in the Austin Latino community. He would not share your views.
Posted by twingroves on Aug. 04 2012,12:52 pm
if they help the illegals they should be deported to heres to all the helpers why cant they do everything by the book istead of sneaking around to get here
Posted by Botto 82 on Aug. 04 2012,1:27 pm
(twingroves @ Aug. 04 2012,12:52 pm)
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if they help the illegals they should be deported to heres to all the helpers why cant they do everything by the book istead of sneaking around to get here
why cant they do everything by the book istead of sneaking around to get here So you've:
...never looked on as someone (possibly a relative) drank underage,
...never consumed illegal drugs, or turned a blind eye to someone who was,
...never been a passenger in an over-the-speed-limit vehicle, and subsequently didn't file a complaint,
...never worked for cash, knowing full well this was against the law,
...and so on.
If you're going to harp about one law being broken, you'd better harp about them all.
Posted by twingroves on Aug. 04 2012,1:41 pm
the laws that you are talking about are small compared to being illegal getting free medical and welfare 
Posted by Botto 82 on Aug. 04 2012,2:16 pm
Hey - illegal is illegal. In my opinion, you can't act all high and mighty if you're going to cherry-pick which laws are more important to you. The Law is the Law.
Posted by twingroves on Aug. 04 2012,3:34 pm
the laws you are talking about do not hurt anybody but the person braking them being in the us illegal hurts all the tax payers because they are getting free medical help and anything else that they can get for free
Posted by Liberal on Aug. 04 2012,8:05 pm
One thing this town has going for it is the racist Archie Bunker types are old and dropping like flies. Posted by twingroves on Aug. 04 2012,8:48 pm
yea and the town is going in the toilet because of the illegals heres to all you ilegal lovers
Posted by Moparman on Aug. 04 2012,8:58 pm
(Botto 82 @ Aug. 04 2012,1:27 pm)
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(twingroves @ Aug. 04 2012,12:52 pm)
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if they help the illegals they should be deported to heres to all the helpers why cant they do everything by the book istead of sneaking around to get here
why cant they do everything by the book istead of sneaking around to get here So you've:
...never looked on as someone (possibly a relative) drank underage,
...never consumed illegal drugs, or turned a blind eye to someone who was,
...never been a passenger in an over-the-speed-limit vehicle, and subsequently didn't file a complaint,
...never worked for cash, knowing full well this was against the law,
...and so on.
If you're going to harp about one law being broken, you'd better harp about them all.
All these "crimes" you talk about are comparable to a person coming into the country illegally for maybe a day or two and then going back. Nobody, speeds, drinks underage, uses drugs, or works for cash, etc, etc, 24/7/365. Everyone will break a law OCCASIONALY and if they get caught they should own up and face the consequences. Why would anyone think it's ok for someone to come into this country illegally and receive all the benefits while contributing nothing? Only a fool would think this is sustainable.
Posted by Blaze on Aug. 04 2012,9:06 pm
Botto, I agree with you 100%. I am a very boring law abiding senior citizen who has never done any of those things you asked about. I believe a law is a law and should be enforced! One thing I do question, though, is the fines. I have no idea where they go or what they are used for. That being said, I have noticed many times lately that a young person is fined $180 for no proof of insurance. My first thought is, if that person cannot afford insurance, how can they afford a $180 fine? If an affluent person chooses not to purchase car insurance and gets caught, the fine doesn't mean much to them. So, in both instances, in my opinion, a sentence to serve would be more meaningful. A person with no extra income would be able to work off the fine, and an affluent person, to whom the $180 is not important, might be more inclined to pay the insurance, rather than do the sentence to serve.
Posted by Botto 82 on Aug. 05 2012,3:13 am
As far as I'm concerned, nobody sums this xenophobic crap that's masquerading as a First Amendment issue better than Warren Jason Street on < albertleasucks.com >:"Immigration Reduction" is just a polite way of saying get the [bleep] out to a group of people. What a racist, ignorant bunch of people. There is nothing more un-American than that sentiment. The America that people want to live in is the one that takes people in and lets them have a chance at the American dream. These assholes don't want to live in that country anymore. They want to sit in their filth and spew hate because that's all they have left in their blackened, useless souls.
If you want proof--proof--that Albert Lea really does suck, look no further than this sign, this message, and the people who stand behind it. What a disgrace. And if you want more proof that Albert Lea's media doesn't get it, then look no further than the disgraceful presentation of this as "free speech" by a hate group as a way of providing "balance."
Eventually, all the old bigots will die off, hopefully before I do, and I can witness one more tick towards a collective sanity.
Posted by twingroves on Aug. 05 2012,7:39 am
whats the mather does the truth hurt
Posted by Self-Banished on Aug. 05 2012,7:40 am
^ and to some of us it's playing by the rules, coming into this country legally. Playing by your rules would mean no borders at all, do as you please and take from the mouths of my children. I don't use the term illegal immigrant, I prefer a term that better describes them, criminal immigrants, because that's what they are, criminals.
Posted by twingroves on Aug. 05 2012,7:52 am
right on
Posted by Botto 82 on Aug. 05 2012,9:50 am
(Self-Banished @ Aug. 05 2012,7:40 am)
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[...]and take from the mouths of my children.
Oh, by all means, do show me documented proof of your progeny going hungry due to illegal immigrants. I'd love to hear that...
Posted by Self-Banished on Aug. 05 2012,6:24 pm
8.2% unemployment 
wait a sec, let's make that right, 8.3% I wouldn't want to take anything away from Dumbo the pres. That' where it's taking food from legal citizen's children mouths. They also take away from health care and social services.IMO, these criminals should be taken back to the border with a warning, "come back and you'll get a long plane ride to the middle east, a parachute strapped to your back, then pushed out of the plane over Iraq or Iran. " try swimming across that pond Jose.
Posted by twingroves on Aug. 05 2012,6:27 pm
hey i like that one 
Posted by Self-Banished on Aug. 05 2012,6:37 pm
^Please don't think I'm heartless TG, before they got pushed out of the plane I'd give them a box lunch and a Disani.
Posted by twingroves on Aug. 05 2012,6:44 pm
you are not heartless is your plane first class i will help with the lunch
Posted by This is my real name on Aug. 06 2012,7:16 am
(twingroves @ Aug. 04 2012,8:48 pm)
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yea and the town is going in the toilet because of the illegals heres to all you ilegal lovers
I think our local leaders are doing far more to put us in the toilet than are the illegals. They're the ones putting us in a race to the bottom.
Posted by Botto 82 on Aug. 06 2012,2:58 pm
(This is my real name @ Aug. 06 2012,7:16 am)
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(twingroves @ Aug. 04 2012,8:48 pm)
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yea and the town is going in the toilet because of the illegals heres to all you ilegal lovers
I think our local leaders are doing far more to put us in the toilet than are the illegals. They're the ones putting us in a race to the bottom.
The town is in the toilet because it chose to, among other things, embrace corrupt leaders, and pander to the "we need to be close to the Interstate" crowd.
Illegals aren't really that much of an issue here. If they were, you'd have a far larger outcry than Mal with his sign, or Westrum with his beyond-poorly-produced TV ads, and some kooks ranting on some obscure message board. But I'm sure you're all giving it your best effort.
Posted by Self-Banished on Aug. 06 2012,3:04 pm
^ just like you
Posted by Botto 82 on Aug. 06 2012,5:56 pm
I could give two craps, really. This country has bigger problems...
Posted by twingroves on Aug. 06 2012,6:56 pm
just drove by the protest looked like a bunch of dummys walking around with signs big deal
Posted by This is my real name on Aug. 07 2012,6:56 am
(twingroves @ Aug. 06 2012,6:56 pm)
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just drove by the protest looked like a bunch of dummys walking around with signs big deal
Isn't that pretty much how most protests go? Sometimes they throw in some chanting or a drum circle, but other than that, unless they become violent, most protests aren't very exciting.
Even Occupy Wall Street in NYC wasn't that "active" when I was there - a bunch of people sitting and standing in the park holding up signs, singing, and chanting. That might have been because of the police perimeter, but they weren't that rowdy or anything.
Posted by Mamma on Aug. 07 2012,9:47 am
I was just wondering why nobody protested for the first couple of weeks. They really didn't protest until KAAL told them to show up at the house across the street at 6:00 on Monday. Most of them just wanted their 3 seconds of fame on t.v. They all seemed to be smiling for the camera....they didn't seem that upset.;
Posted by MADDOG on Aug. 07 2012,10:14 am
(Mamma @ Aug. 07 2012,9:47 am)
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I was just wondering why nobody protested for the first couple of weeks. They really didn't protest until KAAL told them to show up at the house across the street at 6:00 on Monday.
Sorry. I missed the memo. I no longer watch KAAL.
Posted by Liberal on Aug. 07 2012,11:02 am
I'm okay with the sign now, too bad he didn't have that message from the start.
Posted by the unc on Aug. 07 2012,11:22 am
How come KAAL finally noticed a sign that had been up there for about two months? Their reporting is very timely...must not have been much going on in Rochester that night...or maybe there wasn't enough to "recrap" from ABC news that night. That seems to be all their news is...a poor re-do of the ABC network news....but with local reporters. I still say it's my favorite sit-com. I watch it every night to see how low they'll go.
Posted by This is my real name on Aug. 07 2012,12:33 pm
(the unc @ Aug. 07 2012,11:22 am)
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How come KAAL finally noticed a sign that had been up there for about two months? Their reporting is very timely...must not have been much going on in Rochester that night...or maybe there wasn't enough to "recrap" from ABC news that night. That seems to be all their news is...a poor re-do of the ABC network news...but with local reporters. I still say it's my favorite sit-com. I watch it every night to see how low they'll go.
They're trying to make news out of a non-story. On that note, the Tribune followed their usual pattern of jumping on the bandwagon last.
Grit Magazine is more newsworthy than the Tribune.
Posted by twingroves on Aug. 23 2012,10:41 am
looked at the sign just now he added a new word ja
Posted by Liberal on Aug. 23 2012,11:00 am
A friend saw the truck driving around Owatonna pulling the big yellow sign so he called me to ask if we could please keep our racist white trash in Albert Lea.The guy is nothing but an embarrassment to this town. Seriously, what has he ever done to make this a better place to live?
Posted by twingroves on Aug. 23 2012,11:21 am
he is trying to clean up the town by geting rid of the illegals
Posted by SlapMyMonkey on Aug. 23 2012,12:09 pm
(twingroves @ Aug. 23 2012,11:21 am)
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he is trying to clean up the town by geting rid of the illegals
yup that sign really has them running out of town
Posted by twingroves on Aug. 23 2012,12:35 pm
if everybody would stand by him and support him instead of kissing the illegals butt maybe they would leave heres to all the illegals
Posted by SlapMyMonkey on Aug. 23 2012,2:32 pm
(twingroves @ Aug. 23 2012,12:35 pm)
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if everybody would stand by him and support him instead of kissing the illegals butt maybe they would leave heres to all the illegals
stand by the town kook...how is that going to get rid of illegals?
I'm 100% against illegal immigration...but encourging the town wacko isn't going to fix anything.
Posted by twingroves on Aug. 23 2012,2:50 pm
he has got everybody thing
Posted by This is my real name on Aug. 23 2012,3:22 pm
(twingroves @ Aug. 23 2012,11:21 am)
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he is trying to clean up the town by geting rid of the illegals
He isn't doing anything to clean up the town or get rid of illegals. He's just shooting off his mouth with signs, as usual. He has never taken any actual action on anything - he's just talk. And he loves the attention.
As far as having people talking, he has them talking ABOUT HIM.
Posted by SlapMyMonkey on Aug. 23 2012,3:54 pm
his message would be more effective if he chased the illegals down street waving one of his dongs at them
Posted by Self-Banished on Aug. 23 2012,4:03 pm
^ dongs???
Posted by MADDOG on Aug. 23 2012,4:22 pm
(Self-Banished @ Aug. 23 2012,4:03 pm)
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^ dongs???
bulldogs. Gull Dongs are Pakistani bulldogs. Isn't that what you meant SMs?
Posted by SlapMyMonkey on Aug. 23 2012,4:40 pm
dongs: as in the rubber penises he sells
Posted by Self-Banished on Aug. 23 2012,7:43 pm
OK then, things I didn't need to know.
Posted by MADDOG on Aug. 24 2012,3:06 pm
It seems like everyone here with negative comments are attacking the messenger, not the message. With that, one would assume the message is either agreed with or acceptable. The owner of the sign is expressing his opinion as he can. No different than the guy who drives around with an Obama/Biden bumper sticker on his car, the guy who wears a Red Sox ball cap or the one with bars and stars in his back window. They are expressing their opinion in ways they are able.
I don't see anyone here belittling those people. Is it just because this person is able to show his opinion in a bigger way? I'd be willing to bet, few if any of you have met and spent any time visiting to him. I don't know him well, but have listened to him. I don't always agree with his opinions. But that is what they are, opinions. He just choses to express them on a more grandeur scale than most of us would or could. Until someone signs an executive order saying otherwise, he still has a right to his opinion.
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Obama's Conditional Resident Program Offers Some DREAM Act Protections to Young Immigrants
President Obama's "deferred action" resident alien program may put some young immigrant on the path to lawful status in America.
August 24, 2012 /24-7PressRelease/ -- Even though the Development, Relief and Education for Alien Minors (DREAM) Act again failed to be passed into law by Congress (it has been proposed numerous times since 2001), President Obama recently signed an executive order granting qualified young illegal immigrants some of the Act's protections.
President Obama's "deferred action" resident alien program may put some young immigrant on the path to lawful status in America.
August 24, 2012 /24-7PressRelease/ -- Even though the Development, Relief and Education for Alien Minors (DREAM) Act again failed to be passed into law by Congress (it has been proposed numerous times since 2001), President Obama recently signed an executive order granting qualified young illegal immigrants some of the Act's protections.
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Break The Law or You’re Fired ! ICE Agents Sue Feds…
Posted on August 23, 2012by sundancecracker
Oathkeepers ?
WASHINGTON - Saying they’re fed up with being told they can’t do their jobs, 10 immigration agents on Thursday sued the Obama administration to try to halt the president’s new non-deportation policy and an earlier memo instructing them not to go after rank-and-file illegal immigrants.
The lawsuit, filed in a federal court in Texas, adds a legal controversy to the political fight that has been brewing over President Obama’s immigration policies, which have steadily narrowed the range of immigrants the government is targeting for deportation.
The 10 U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents and deportation officers said Mr. Obama’s policies force them to choose between enforcing the law and being reprimanded by superiors, or listening to superiors and violating their own oaths of office and a 1996 law that requires them to demand proof of legal status from those they suspect are not in the country legally. < Break the Law or You're Fired. >
Posted on August 23, 2012by sundancecracker
Oathkeepers ?
WASHINGTON - Saying they’re fed up with being told they can’t do their jobs, 10 immigration agents on Thursday sued the Obama administration to try to halt the president’s new non-deportation policy and an earlier memo instructing them not to go after rank-and-file illegal immigrants.
The lawsuit, filed in a federal court in Texas, adds a legal controversy to the political fight that has been brewing over President Obama’s immigration policies, which have steadily narrowed the range of immigrants the government is targeting for deportation.
The 10 U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents and deportation officers said Mr. Obama’s policies force them to choose between enforcing the law and being reprimanded by superiors, or listening to superiors and violating their own oaths of office and a 1996 law that requires them to demand proof of legal status from those they suspect are not in the country legally. < Break the Law or You're Fired. >
Posted by Liberal on Aug. 24 2012,5:50 pm
Really? You don't think people take issue with the message? You'd have to be a complete idiot to think people were protesting the sign and not the message.
Posted by Self-Banished on Aug. 24 2012,6:00 pm
You've been awfully grumpy as of late Lib. 
Posted by Liberal on Aug. 24 2012,8:27 pm
I'm taking a pretty large dose of prednisone for some weird autoimmune problem called mesenteric panniculitis and it seems to have lowered my tolerance for people saying stupid stuff.
Posted by Self-Banished on Aug. 24 2012,8:45 pm
Hope you feel better.