Topic: Bumpouts - Yes or No
started by: usmcr
Posted by usmcr on Aug. 02 2012,4:07 pm
What is your choice on Bumpouts in the downtown area?
Posted by ControlledHyperness on Aug. 02 2012,4:32 pm
Is this poll going to be shown to the City Council???
Posted by hairhertz on Aug. 03 2012,2:03 am
the council and all the other entities/individuals that suck $$$ around here read this site daily....around lunch time there are usually 20 or so visitors checking things out
Posted by This is my real name on Aug. 03 2012,6:56 am
(hairhertz @ Aug. 03 2012,2:03 am)
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the council and all the other entities/individuals that suck $$$ around here read this site daily...around lunch time there are usually 20 or so visitors checking things out
But they will never admit to it, and they certainly won't ever use this as a credible representation.
Posted by hairhertz on Aug. 03 2012,7:02 am
(This is my real name @ Aug. 03 2012,6:56 am)
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(hairhertz @ Aug. 03 2012,2:03 am)
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the council and all the other entities/individuals that suck $$$ around here read this site daily...around lunch time there are usually 20 or so visitors checking things out
But they will never admit to it, and they certainly won't ever use this as a credible representation.
sad but true
Posted by Blaze on Aug. 04 2012,7:33 pm
If they were smart, they would. Anyone of us could print it out and take it to the council meeting, couldn't we?
Posted by usmcr on Aug. 05 2012,11:14 am
yes, anyone could print it out & present it to the council! with 397 hits & only 25 participants it is hardly significant! the apathy of this community is pathetic imho! for instance there is considerable more interest in someone's misery in life as is witnessed by 8799 hits & counting.
Posted by Marneman on Aug. 06 2012,1:27 am
Has no one on the City council read "The Emporer's New Clothes"! Just because some other city puts in Bump outs, we got to have bump outs? Who ever sold the city on this idea is laughing all the way to the bank!, with money that could have been spent better! How come this wasn't brought to the publics attention earlier and are we already stuck with these monstrosities!! Heaven help us!!
Posted by This is my real name on Aug. 06 2012,7:07 am
We're on a "sucker list". I'm sure Dan Buettner has passed our name around to other groups looking to happily accept any grant money we have, just like some consultant probably gave him our name.The problem is our leaders buy into the "junk mail" we're receiving. They don't even want to be on the DO NOT CALL list.
Posted by hairhertz on Aug. 06 2012,8:55 pm
bump outs sound sexist 
Posted by jrhanson_75 on Aug. 07 2012,10:38 pm
Why do they think that these bump outs are going to do anything for the downtown area?!? Really the only benefit is that you have less walking from sidewalk to sidewalk when crossing the street and that is if you actually crossed at the corner! Use your melons people and put this money somewhere useful, like to clean the lakes or update parks or really anything other than bump outs!! I can see why this town is hurting wasteful spending among other things. If they want families to stay here then they better start doing something different because I could care less about how the downtown looks there isn't enough shops to get anyone down there.
Posted by This is my real name on Aug. 08 2012,5:51 am
One of the benefits they listed in the Tribune was the reduced amount of time it would take to cross intersections.It's a shame that there isn't a feature on the traffic lights to remedy this... like, say, AN ADJUSTABLE TIMED CROSSING SIGNAL.
But that would be the simple, logical solution and wouldn't help justify the money they already spent on the consultants they paid to tell them they had a good idea.
Posted by MADDOG on Aug. 08 2012,1:51 pm
How many vehicle-pedestrian accidents on a crosswalk has there been in the last ten years at these intersections?
Posted by ICU812 on Aug. 28 2012,9:19 am
PUBIC MEETING tomorrow at city chambers 7:00 PM - Voice your opinions on the purposed BUMPOUTS.I think they should install them. But not just uptown, I think they should put them in on EVERY intersection in town. If it makes cents uptown it makes cents everywhere.
Posted by ICU812 on Aug. 28 2012,9:26 am
Plus we can probably hire one or two more personnel to help get the snow out.QUOTE
How will the medians and bumpouts affect snow removal?
These features, while great for safety, make snow removal more difficult. The snow will continue to be plowed from the center to the outside of the roadway where it will need to be loaded and removed. Removal will take extra time as operators need to maneuver around the bumpouts.< My Webpage >
These features, while great for safety, make snow removal more difficult. The snow will continue to be plowed from the center to the outside of the roadway where it will need to be loaded and removed. Removal will take extra time as operators need to maneuver around the bumpouts.< My Webpage >
Posted by irisheyes on Aug. 28 2012,5:37 pm
I don't mind the bumpout idea in theory, but I think higher maintenance costs are a no-brainer to avoid. Because of budget situations departments are getting cuts year after year, and although last winter was a breeze by Minnesota standards, we get a normal snowfall and those plow drivers will have a hard enough time keeping up with the snowfall.This will add extra work for them and we'll either have to tell'em to take less time plowing other areas, or raise taxes (again) to make up the difference; past experience says the city will do both. Skip the bumpouts, and focus on core services.
A note of pessimism, we're a dying town that can barely afford our police and fire departments, and I stopped going to the library because the sign seems to always say they're closed. Yet we're continually hiring consultants to find other ways to spend money that we don't have. Then we'll get a notice in a few months that we're going to close the library more often, lay off another cop or firemen again.
Posted by Pretzel Logic on Aug. 28 2012,5:56 pm
^^^^ 
Posted by ICU812 on Aug. 29 2012,9:57 am
Agreed^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Posted by twingroves on Aug. 30 2012,11:37 am
what do you exspect of a town run by abunch of dumb azzs 