Forum: Opinion
Topic: He jumped
started by: grassman

Posted by grassman on Jul. 25 2012,4:29 am
Man jumps off overpass bridge
A 33-year-old Albert Lea man halted his Chevy pickup on southbound Interstate 35, exited the truck and jumped off the overpass and onto Freeborn County Road 46.

A Freeborn County sheriff’s deputy saw him jump. According to the Sheriff’s Office, a deputy happened to be patroling eastbound on County 46 and spotted the man standing on the bridge. The deputy parked and as he was exiting the squad car, the man jumped off the bridge.

The deputy never had a chance to speak to the man, and it is likely, according to the Sheriff’s Office, that he never even noticed the deputy pulling up. The incident happened at 12:53 p.m.

The clearance underneath the bridge is 16 1/2 feet, according to the Minnesota Department of Transportation. The County 46 interchange is Exit 11 of Interstate 35.

The man, whose name was not released, survived the jump. He was not struck by any cars. He was transported by ambulance to Mayo Clinic Health System in Albert Lea with injuries to his legs.

Albert Lea Police Department and the Minnesota State Patrol assisted the Freeborn County Sheriff’s Office at the interchange. Allen’s Tow-N-Travel towed away the Chevy pickup.


Was it the new lights on the street or the fact he wanted to get away from his Chevy pick up?

Posted by Twiggs50 on Jul. 25 2012,7:30 am
I really don't think it's appropriate to make a joke out of someone trying to commit suicide. He's a person in pain for some reason and you find it funny that he wanted to die. Nice.
Posted by grassman on Jul. 25 2012,9:50 am
I guess I did not perceive it that way at that height.  Am sorry. :(
Posted by Self-Banished on Jul. 25 2012,10:10 am
So did anyone hold up judges numbers scoring this swan dive??? ???
Posted by Twiggs50 on Jul. 25 2012,10:44 am
You people are just sick. I don't know this person, but when someone tries to commit suicide (which is what I was told he was doing by someone who knows him), I don't think it's a joke. How are people with mental illness supposed to seek help when morons lke you are making jokes about their illness?

You people have more compassion for the dogs and cats at the animal shelter then you do for someone with mental illness. Get a life! Help someone with mental illness rather than making a joke of it.

Posted by canvasback on Jul. 25 2012,10:58 am

(Twiggs50 @ Jul. 25 2012,10:44 am)
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You people are just sick. I don't know this person, but when someone tries to commit suicide (which is what I was told he was doing by someone who knows him), I don't think it's a joke. How are people with mental illness supposed to seek help when morons lke you are making jokes about their illness?

You people have more compassion for the dogs and cats at the animal shelter then you do for someone with mental illness. Get a life! Help someone with mental illness rather than making a joke of it.

We have tried helping The Breeze, but to no avail!
Posted by Self-Banished on Jul. 25 2012,11:26 am
Cats and dogs don't try to off themselves. :D
Posted by MADDOG on Jul. 25 2012,12:33 pm
And the ones we want to jump off a bridge get 42 months in a luxury suite at Alderson FPC.
Posted by This is my real name on Jul. 25 2012,12:35 pm

(MADDOG @ Jul. 25 2012,12:33 pm)
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And the ones we want to jump off a bridge get 42 months in a luxury suite at Alderson FPC.

Well, you see they have no guilt or shame, because they're the real victims. It isn't THEIR fault.  :sarcasm:
Posted by Twiggs50 on Jul. 25 2012,12:41 pm
Make all the jokes you want - let's see how the families who lost loved ones at the hands of a mentally ill shooter in Colorado feel.

And don't compare someone who is suffering from mental illness to Linda Tuttle - there, I said the dreaded name. Yes, I agree, she got off easy, but she has nothing to do with this and you know it. I'm upset because you are making fun of people with serious mental health issues and make jokes about it. This is why people who suffer with these illnesses don't seek help, because of morons like you.

Let's try to help these people instead of making them the butt of jokes. I feel sorry for you and hope you or your loved ones never suffer from this illness. This is nothing to joke about, because it no laughing matter. I've been there, and I sure as hell wasn't laughing at the time.

Posted by MADDOG on Jul. 25 2012,1:05 pm
How do you know that this person has a mental illness?  Jumping the gun a little, twiggy?  Same goes with the shooter in Colorado.  No one has determined any mental illness there either.  You're so sure that if someone does something you don't think is right, they're mentally incapacitated?

You obviously speak from experience.
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I feel sorry for you and hope you or your loved ones never suffer from this illness. This is nothing to joke about, because it no laughing matter. I've been there, and I sure as hell wasn't laughing at the time.

Posted by grassman on Jul. 25 2012,1:45 pm
I have to agree with Twiggs, depression and other mental illness is not a laughable condition. I know and have known people afflicted, it hurts. It hurts everyone they know too.
Posted by fredbear on Jul. 25 2012,2:22 pm
Look around, even if you're just looking in the mirror you are looking at someone with mental illness. We all have it, just different degrees.

On news stories like this - especially where you don't know the person - sometimes you have to laugh to keep from crying.

Posted by Self-Banished on Jul. 25 2012,3:05 pm
So they didn't give a name? My thought is "where the hell has Hymen been lately?" :p
Posted by fredbear on Jul. 25 2012,3:29 pm
Hymie has to be older than 33. His IQ ain't any higher than that but his age has to be.
Posted by mngroomer on Jul. 25 2012,3:49 pm
:thumbsup: I do feel sorry for the guy that jumped, I hope he gets the help he needs, but why in the heck didn't Linda Tuttle think of jumping :clap:  :clap:  she should have! then the ones she stole from could at least get some life insurance out of her!
Posted by ControlledHyperness on Jul. 25 2012,4:40 pm

(Twiggs50 @ Jul. 25 2012,12:41 pm)
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Make all the jokes you want - let's see how the families who lost loved ones at the hands of a mentally ill shooter in Colorado feel.

And don't compare someone who is suffering from mental illness to Linda Tuttle - there, I said the dreaded name. Yes, I agree, she got off easy, but she has nothing to do with this and you know it. I'm upset because you are making fun of people with serious mental health issues and make jokes about it. This is why people who suffer with these illnesses don't seek help, because of morons like you.

Let's try to help these people instead of making them the butt of jokes. I feel sorry for you and hope you or your loved ones never suffer from this illness. This is nothing to joke about, because it no laughing matter. I've been there, and I sure as hell wasn't laughing at the time.

First off, Not everything is done by, or run by, or controlled by mental illness. Hate to say it, but here is a list of variances:

  1)someone who is developmentally delayed, or mentally retarded (Im not one for PC). They act on impulses often times, and don't have the mental capacities to think through them. They are NOT mentally ill.

  2)Attention seekers. They also are not mentally ill. They want attention in whatever ways or means they can come by. This is often controlled by behaviors, NOT by mental illness.


Those are just two I can come up with at the drop of the hat, but I am aware of far more. We have become a medical dependent society...meaning everything that happens is because someone is mentally ill. Because they are mentally ill, they shouldn't be held responsible for their actions...it was someone else's fault. This all leads to a Victim complex...that can be clearly seen in Tuttle and Eaton.

  All that being said, here is my response to your quote

*The dude from Colorado to this point has NO track record of being mentally ill. That is the talk for a defense at this point only. The facial expressions during his court appearance are more than likely an act...keep in mind, he was trying to earn his PhD in Psychiatry. He would know what to do to create an "insane" look...and from many observers, he seemed to accomplish SOMEthing like that.

*First off, don't suppose the guy jumped because of a mental illness. Depression is caused by chemical imbalance in the brain...often times not enough of lithium or some other vital, lesser known chemical the body naturally produces. Lack of sunshine has been known to cause depression as well. Financial stress has also been known to drive some overboard (no pun intended). Just because he decided to leave his truck on the side of 35 on a bridge and jump off doesn't mean he has mental illness. I think it was a move of desperation, but not really a serious suicide attempt. There are bigger, and higher bridges around town for that...some on 35.

*Most times, people who make jokes of others who do things like this, do so because it was a major fail. The heart DOES go out to him...as obviously he felt he had more than he could deal with. I think to some extent all of us on here have experienced the feeling of total helplessness. Some have totally different ways to handle it, than others. As another person said...we laugh because if we don't, we might cry...its a normal, natural human response. Also, I don't think anyone has laughed at the guy directly...just his thought process.

*I grew up with mental illness. The perfect picture of it. To the point people are amazed I came out "normal". In return, I was blessed with at least ONE special needs child who has the same issues that my dad had...minus the PTSD. I have another one who might be blessed with something a little different...that one I will attribute to a brain hardwire being different then a normal person's...not mental illness. My dad didn't like people laughing at him...at the time. Once the dust settled, he was usually right in the middle of it all laughing with everyone else. Its all a matter of perspective.

  Now that the soapbox has been rendered useless, I say this. You yourself are causing a bigger stink by saying what you are to back yourself, than anyone else on here laughing at the situation. Again, I repeat myself, no one was directly laughing at HIM...they were laughing at his decision to pull his truck over, on a major interstate bridge (that wasn't exactly high), get out, and jump. Maybe it took that to get past whatever caused him his problems..I don't know. But it isn't your place to patrol everyone .

Posted by Twiggs50 on Jul. 25 2012,5:32 pm
I'm not arguing with you anymore. We obviously have differing opinions. Think what you want.
Posted by This is my real name on Jul. 26 2012,4:53 am

(mngroomer @ Jul. 25 2012,3:49 pm)
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:thumbsup: I do feel sorry for the guy that jumped, I hope he gets the help he needs, but why in the heck didn't Linda Tuttle think of jumping :clap:  :clap:  she should have! then the ones she stole from could at least get some life insurance out of her!

Life insurance doesn't pay off in the case of suicide. Besides that, I would guess she has already named her family as beneficiaries in her policy. I don't think her victims can legally take any of that, since it isn't her money. It's the insurance company's money, paying her family.
Posted by twingroves on Jul. 26 2012,7:53 am
i would bet that there is a wife or a girlfriend behind this
Posted by This is my real name on Jul. 26 2012,8:04 am

(twingroves @ Jul. 26 2012,7:53 am)
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i would bet that there is a wife or a girlfriend behind this

That could very well be.

Sometimes being hopelessly in debt or struggling with addiction can do it to.

Either way, it's sad when someone feels that this is the only solution. I had a cousin who ended his life in his early 20s. His girlfriend (and mother of his children) was going to leave him because of his frequent drug and alcohol use. Around that time, I had a boss who used to refer to suicide as a permanent solution to a temporary problem. The issue I had with that was that he still referred to it as a solution.

Posted by twingroves on Aug. 01 2012,6:49 pm
never heard a name    must be a big name in town
Posted by Zzz on Aug. 03 2012,12:23 pm
Who cares! Obviously the people who know and love this person aren't on here discussing what prompted him to commit this odd act. But, this act was committed in public and therefore he did open himself up to public opinion. It doesn't matter who he is and sense none of us will be involved in his healing process, (physical, mental or emotional) the subject in mute...
Posted by Common Citizen on Aug. 24 2012,11:29 pm

(This is my real name @ Jul. 26 2012,4:53 am)
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(mngroomer @ Jul. 25 2012,3:49 pm)
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:thumbsup: I do feel sorry for the guy that jumped, I hope he gets the help he needs, but why in the heck didn't Linda Tuttle think of jumping :clap:  :clap:  she should have! then the ones she stole from could at least get some life insurance out of her!

Life insurance doesn't pay off in the case of suicide.

Life insurance will pay out for a suicide if it occurred after the initial 2 year contestable period.  Also, it normally will not pay out to the beneficiaries of a convicted felon while in prison.  If a felon applies for a policy, the underwriters take into consideration the time that has elapsed from when they completed their probation/parole to the time of application and also the nature of the crime.
This varies by company.

Posted by busybee on Sep. 10 2012,12:31 am
In a nut shell...what I have learned about people is that if they chronically threaten to commit suicide, yet never follow through...that's either a mental illness or an attention seeking game.

Typically people who intend to commit suicide don't tell anyone else, including their closest loves ones.  

Either way, when any person threatens suicide, or if you suspect and notice all the signs that a loved may be planning their suicide, call the authorities immediately because even if it's just a threat to get what they believe they can get or get out of doing it...they can accidental kill themselves or someone else in the process.  

Suicidal people are dangerous...not just to themselves but to others also. so, if you are ever made aware that someone is considering such a violent act against themselves...unless you're a professional don't waste time in contacting someone to help them as soon as possible and usually that is by reporting it to law enforcement to begin with.

Posted by allergic to bogus on Sep. 18 2012,2:45 pm
I find it amusing how people constantly speculate on something that they know little if anything about. Enough said.
Posted by busybee on Sep. 18 2012,11:44 pm
Are you specifically disagreeing with what I posted about how important I believe it is to get professionals involved if a family member, close friend, co-worker, ect...has reason to believe a person is suicidal?
Posted by allergic to bogus on Sep. 24 2012,11:47 pm
Not at all. I agree. I just think that for so many it is easy to speculate. ( 'must be somene important, since there was no name released', insurance  information and a few  other crude remarks made).This person is from here and has family that come on to this site.
Posted by alcitizens on Sep. 25 2012,12:43 am
(busybee)
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Suicidal people are dangerous...


In most cases they're only dangerous to themselves..

Clinical Depression is one of the worst medical condition's that could happen to anyone.. They don't try to take their own life because they are selfish, they try to take their own life because they think their loved ones have given up on them and think their family would be better off without them.. They think they're doing their loved ones a favor.. They need medical treatment.. They need help..

If you love'em, don't give up on'em.. :thumbsup:

< http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_depressive_disorder >

Posted by busybee on Sep. 29 2012,11:49 pm
alcitizens · Posted on Sep. 25 2012


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In most cases they're only dangerous to themselves..

Clinical Depression is one of the worst medical condition's that could happen to anyone.. They don't try to take their own life because they are selfish, they try to take their own life because they think their loved ones have given up on them and think their family would be better off without them.. They think they're doing their loved ones a favor.. They need medical treatment.. They need help..

If you love'em, don't give up on'em.. :thumbsup:


The best thing anyone who loves someone who is clinically depressed and suicidal can do is tattle tale on them ASAP so they can get the medical help they need.

Being clinically depressed is NOT a VALID excuse for any type of act that is life threatening, in any way, shape or form.

Posted by alcitizens on Sep. 30 2012,1:16 am
Clinical depression symptoms may include:

Depressed mood most of the day, nearly every day
Loss of interest or pleasure in most activities
Significant weight loss or gain
Sleeping too much or not being able to sleep nearly every day
Slowed thinking or movement that others can see
Fatigue or low energy nearly every day
Feelings of worthlessness or inappropriate guilt
Loss of concentration or indecisiveness
Recurring thoughts of death or suicide

< http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/clinical-depression/AN01057 >

Posted by Self-Banished on Sep. 30 2012,7:52 am
NO AL!!! Don't commit suicide!
Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Sep. 30 2012,9:15 am

(alcitizens @ Sep. 30 2012,1:16 am)
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Clinical depression symptoms may include:

Depressed mood most of the day, nearly every day
Loss of interest or pleasure in most activities
Significant weight loss or gain
Sleeping too much or not being able to sleep nearly every day
Slowed thinking or movement that others can see
Fatigue or low energy nearly every day
Feelings of worthlessness or inappropriate guilt
Loss of concentration or indecisiveness
Recurring thoughts of death or suicide

< http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/clinical-depression/AN01057 >

Oh, depression.
When I first read this, I thought you were describing the symptoms of a govt lovin' liberal. :p

Posted by concerned on Oct. 01 2012,6:15 am
:rofl:
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