Forum: Current Events
Topic: Talk About the Weather
started by: hymiebravo

Posted by hymiebravo on Mar. 02 2012,9:25 pm
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A series of powerful storms and tornadoes have killed 15 people in the US states of Indiana, Kentucky and Ohio, officials say.

Local police officials confirmed that nine people died as tornadoes swept across three counties in Indiana.

Five others died in Kentucky, with one fatality in Ohio. Earlier, tornadoes hit Alabama, causing widespread damage.

The storms - stretched across a vast part of the US Midwest - came days after another system killed 13 people.


< http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-17236495 >

Posted by Rosalind_Swenson on Mar. 02 2012,10:34 pm
Well, maybe Tornado Alley is moving a tad further east. That would be a good thing just in case that XL tarsands pipeline does go through. Since they plan on putting it straight through the worst of Tornado Alley.
Peace to the people who lost loved ones during those storms.

Posted by Santorini on Mar. 03 2012,2:39 pm

(Rosalind_Swenson @ Mar. 02 2012,10:34 pm)
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Well, maybe Tornado Alley is moving a tad further east. That would be a good thing just in case that XL tarsands pipeline does go through. Since they plan on putting it straight through the worst of Tornado Alley.
Peace to the people who lost loved ones during those storms.

Do you have the affects of a tornado mixed up with that of an earthquake :dunno:
Posted by Mamma on Mar. 04 2012,8:00 am
oh no! not through tornado alley! Hope they don't disturb any frogs or birds or newts or something.
Posted by Self-Banished on Mar. 04 2012,8:37 am
It's the fault of global warming, ah,wait a sec, global cooling? A butterfly flapping his wing in Brazil? Hymen flapping his gums? Oh hell! It' gotta be someone's fault.
Posted by hymiebravo on Mar. 04 2012,8:51 am
March seems to have come in like a lion for the folks devastated by these storms. Quite a contrast to how it came into southern Minnesota.

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US authorities in several Midwestern states are searching for survivors and clearing damage after a string of powerful storms and tornadoes left at least 37 people dead.

The states of Indiana, Kentucky, Ohio, Georgia and Alabama were all hit by the intense winds which flattened homes, lifted rooftops and downed powerlines.

An unknown number of people are missing after communication lines were damaged.

A total of 90 tornadoes and 700 severe weather events were reported on Friday.

Ohio Governor John Kasich has declared a state of emergency, the Associated Press reports.

President Barack Obama has offered federal government help to the affected states.

Correspondents say it will be impossible to make an immediate assessment of the full extent of the damage.

Tornadoes occur all year round in the US, although the strength of this week's storms was unusual for the time of year - the peak period is March to May in the southern US and later further north.

'Completely gone'

At least 18 people died in Kentucky, reports said, and another 14 in neighbouring Indiana.

The small town of Marysville, Indiana, was almost completely destroyed, with the town's water tower one of the few buildings to remain undamaged, local reports said.

Clark County Sheriff Danny Rodden said that residents had been warned of oncoming storms but added: "This was the worst-case scenario. There's no way you can prepare for something like this."

In the town of Henryville, a roof was ripped from a school and a school bus thrown against a restaurant. No-one was seriously injured in either incident.

"We're not unfamiliar with Mother Nature's wrath out here in Indiana," Governor Mitch Daniels told CNN during a visit to the stricken south-eastern corner of the state on Saturday.

"But this is about as serious as we've seen in the years since I've been in this job," he said as he viewed the damage in Henryville.

Prison damaged

A toddler was in a critical condition in hospital in Kentucky after being found alive and alone in a field near the town of Salem, southern Indiana.

In nearby Chelsea, three members of one family - including a four-year-old child - died in their house when the storm struck.

The child and mother were huddled in a basement when the storm hit and sucked the child from her arms. The mother survived, but her 70-year-old grandparents, who were upstairs, both died.

"She was in the cellar with the boy when the tornado hit. It blew him right out of her hands," Tony Williams, the owner of the town's General Store said.

"They found the bodies in the field outside," he added, referring to the grandparents.

Three people were reported dead in Ohio while in northern Alabama, one person died.

At least 40 homes were destroyed and 150 damaged in the state while the roof of a prison in the path of the storm was damaged, forcing 300 inmates to be moved to another part of the facility.

Earlier this week, 13 people died after twisters swept through Missouri, Kansas, Illinois and Tennessee.

The US National Weather Service had described the situation as particularly dangerous - the mild winter has created conditions where cold fronts collide with warmer air causing the tornados to form.

Last year they killed more than 500 people making it the third deadliest year on record


< http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-17243838 >

Posted by Rosalind_Swenson on Mar. 04 2012,9:30 am

(Santorini @ Mar. 03 2012,2:39 pm)
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(Rosalind_Swenson @ Mar. 02 2012,10:34 pm)
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Well, maybe Tornado Alley is moving a tad further east. That would be a good thing just in case that XL tarsands pipeline does go through. Since they plan on putting it straight through the worst of Tornado Alley.
Peace to the people who lost loved ones during those storms.

Do you have the affects of a tornado mixed up with that of an earthquake :dunno:

I was wondering why nobody I follow never mentioned it going through tornado alley lol. Ok, my bad. So now that you mention earthquakes, that is another thing we should worry about. There has been alot of seismic activity the last couple of years along much of that pipeline path. I'm against the pipeline whether it's above or below ground. I'm against tarsands as a fuel. I guess the idea of it being ABOVE ground worried me less than it being underground. The whole "being able to see problems" factor.
Posted by Rosalind_Swenson on Mar. 04 2012,9:31 am

(Mamma @ Mar. 04 2012,8:00 am)
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oh no! not through tornado alley! Hope they don't disturb any frogs or birds or newts or something.

There is MUCH more to be concerned about than "frogs and newts" .
Posted by Santorini on Mar. 04 2012,10:59 am

(Rosalind_Swenson @ Mar. 04 2012,9:30 am)
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(Santorini @ Mar. 03 2012,2:39 pm)
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(Rosalind_Swenson @ Mar. 02 2012,10:34 pm)
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Well, maybe Tornado Alley is moving a tad further east. That would be a good thing just in case that XL tarsands pipeline does go through. Since they plan on putting it straight through the worst of Tornado Alley.
Peace to the people who lost loved ones during those storms.

Do you have the affects of a tornado mixed up with that of an earthquake :dunno:

I was wondering why nobody I follow never mentioned it going through tornado alley lol. Ok, my bad. So now that you mention earthquakes, that is another thing we should worry about. There has been alot of seismic activity the last couple of years along much of that pipeline path. I'm against the pipeline whether it's above or below ground. I'm against tarsands as a fuel. I guess the idea of it being ABOVE ground worried me less than it being underground. The whole "being able to see problems" factor.

the pipelines are already here...
Posted by Rosalind_Swenson on Mar. 04 2012,11:06 am

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(Rosalind_Swenson @ Mar. 04 2012,9:30 am)
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(Santorini @ Mar. 03 2012,2:39 pm)
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(Rosalind_Swenson @ Mar. 02 2012,10:34 pm)
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Well, maybe Tornado Alley is moving a tad further east. That would be a good thing just in case that XL tarsands pipeline does go through. Since they plan on putting it straight through the worst of Tornado Alley.
Peace to the people who lost loved ones during those storms.

Do you have the affects of a tornado mixed up with that of an earthquake :dunno:

I was wondering why nobody I follow never mentioned it going through tornado alley lol. Ok, my bad. So now that you mention earthquakes, that is another thing we should worry about. There has been alot of seismic activity the last couple of years along much of that pipeline path. I'm against the pipeline whether it's above or below ground. I'm against tarsands as a fuel. I guess the idea of it being ABOVE ground worried me less than it being underground. The whole "being able to see problems" factor.

the pipelines are already here...

Yep, and plenty of instances of why many of us do NOT want the new pipeline.
Posted by jimhanson on Mar. 04 2012,4:37 pm
Rosalind--
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I guess the idea of it being ABOVE ground worried me less than it being underground. The whole "being able to see problems" factor.


Does that mean that the next time there is a Tornado Warning that you will move from the basement to a second-floor area for safety? :sarcasm:  :D

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So now that you mention earthquakes, that is another thing we should worry about. There has been alot of seismic activity the last couple of years along much of that pipeline path.
 Rosalind--you are sitting at a computer--USE IT!  According to the U.S. Coast and Geodetic Survey (being a liberal, you DO trust the government, don't you?) :p the area of the pipline is one of the most stable areas in the entire U.S.

What liberal site has told you to be afraid of earthquakes for the pipeline?  There are THOUSANDS of pipelines along that route--and I can't find a single one that has had a disaster caused by an earthquake.  Contrast that with California.  

You DO know where the route is, don't you?

Posted by Rosalind_Swenson on Mar. 05 2012,10:10 pm
I meant that if pipelines were above ground it would worry me less, since problems would be easier to find and fix. So that is probably why I envision pipelines above ground.
Anyways, the last three or four years, the earthquakes in that whole area (except North Dakota and Kansas) have been having ALOT of earthquakes. Oklahoma has had an insane amount. Most of them are small, but when it comes to pipelines it doesn't take much to create problems. Okalahoma had at least one huge one in the last year. In 2010, Oklahoma had around 200 earthquakes. In 2011 they estimate they had around 1,200. Nebraska had earthquakes. South Dakota had earthquakes. Google it.

Posted by alcitizens on May 24 2012,5:57 pm
Temps to be above average this year across the US which will most likely increase chances of severe weather..
Posted by hymiebravo on May 25 2012,7:29 am
It was quite windy on Wednesday.

Looks like New Ulm got a nice big dose of it:

By Associated Press
NEW ULM — A burst of strong winds has damaged dozens of vehicles at a south-central Minnesota car dealership.

Winds and heavy rain ripped through Kohls-Weelborg Chevrolet in New Ulm around 4:30 p.m. Wednesday.

General manager Doug Schablin said the storm hit without warning. He said the rain and wind “turned everything white.”

Within 20-30 seconds, Schablin said it was over. He said the wind blew out the windows of 70 vehicles and bent flagpoles at the dealership to the ground.

The National Weather Service reported winds at the airport were clocked at 75 mph.

A Brown County sheriff’s dispatcher said trees and signs are down in New Ulm, but no injuries were reported.

Much of central and northern Minnesota and parts of southern Minnesota were under flash flood watches until today.

Posted by hymiebravo on Jun. 10 2012,8:46 pm
Getting kind of windy, and stormy looking out there.
Posted by Rosalind_Swenson on Jun. 10 2012,8:55 pm
Don't get skeered Hymie. It's ok.  :)
Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 10 2012,9:55 pm
Hymen, outside will do that from time to time.  :dunce:
Posted by hymiebravo on Jun. 10 2012,10:11 pm
Been rather warm and breezy the last couple of days. There was supposed to be a chance of severe weather, tonight.

1 70 MPH-ish gust and maybe one robust thunder boom. Then that was it. It was all done.  

The bizarre weather streak continues.

Some day perhaps normal weather will return and no one will no what to think of it. lol

Although if it would have been a little earlier in that day it might have been more of a concern. As the tornado window tends to be more common earlier in the day.

Posted by Rosalind_Swenson on Jun. 11 2012,4:37 am
That New Ulm thing was pretty crazy. I checked into it and it sounds like what they call a microburst. Whatever it is, I hope we don't get them again.


Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 11 2012,5:16 am

(hymiebravo @ Jun. 10 2012,10:11 pm)
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Been rather warm and breezy the last couple of days. There was supposed to be a chance of severe weather, tonight.

1 70 MPH-ish gust and maybe one robust thunder boom. Then that was it. It was all done.  

The bizarre weather streak continues.

Some day perhaps normal weather will return and no one will no what to think of it. lol

Although if it would have been a little earlier in that day it might have been more of a concern. As the tornado window tends to be more common earlier in the day.

Bizzarre weather??? It's almost summer you dope! Wind, rain, it happens, get a grip. :dunce:  :dunce:  :dunce:
Posted by hymiebravo on Jun. 11 2012,5:41 am

(Self-Banished @ Jun. 11 2012,5:16 am)
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(hymiebravo @ Jun. 10 2012,10:11 pm)
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Been rather warm and breezy the last couple of days. There was supposed to be a chance of severe weather, tonight.

1 70 MPH-ish gust and maybe one robust thunder boom. Then that was it. It was all done.  

The bizarre weather streak continues.

Some day perhaps normal weather will return and no one will no what to think of it. lol

Although if it would have been a little earlier in that day it might have been more of a concern. As the tornado window tends to be more common earlier in the day.

Bizzarre weather??? It's almost summer you dope! Wind, rain, it happens, get a grip. :dunce:  :dunce:  :dunce:

Not that I really need to explain anything to a person who just comes to this site to get their gripe on.

But. . .

The reason it was bizarre, to me anyway, was the one robust wind burst and one thunder boom part. Then that was it, basically.

That was odd I thought.

P.S. Stop sullying my pristine weather thread with your nonsense, heckler.

Posted by hymiebravo on Jun. 11 2012,5:52 am
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That New Ulm thing was pretty crazy. I checked into it and it sounds like what they call a microburst. Whatever it is, I hope we don't get them again.


After seeing that footage - Maybe my 70 MPH estimate of the single burst last night was a bit high. lol

It takes quite a bit of force to knock out a side window in a car. And those 400 pound air conditioners, wow. There was supposed to have been bent flag poles or something too. But I didn't see those, though. Nonetheless what an event.

Thanks for the video.

Great contribution to the thread.

You redeemed yourself, somewhat. lol

Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 11 2012,11:26 am

(hymiebravo @ Jun. 11 2012,5:41 am)
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(Self-Banished @ Jun. 11 2012,5:16 am)
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(hymiebravo @ Jun. 10 2012,10:11 pm)
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Been rather warm and breezy the last couple of days. There was supposed to be a chance of severe weather, tonight.

1 70 MPH-ish gust and maybe one robust thunder boom. Then that was it. It was all done.  

The bizarre weather streak continues.

Some day perhaps normal weather will return and no one will no what to think of it. lol

Although if it would have been a little earlier in that day it might have been more of a concern. As the tornado window tends to be more common earlier in the day.

Bizzarre weather??? It's almost summer you dope! Wind, rain, it happens, get a grip. :dunce:  :dunce:  :dunce:

Not that I really need to explain anything to a person who just comes to this site to get their gripe on.

But. . .

The reason it was bizarre, to me anyway, was the one robust wind burst and one thunder boom part. Then that was it, basically.

That was odd I thought.

P.S. Stop sullying my pristine weather thread with your nonsense, heckler.

Pristine??? :rofl:

Careful Hymen, arrogance and stupidity are a dangerous combination. :dunce:

Posted by Rosalind_Swenson on Jun. 11 2012,7:20 pm

(hymiebravo @ Jun. 11 2012,5:52 am)
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That New Ulm thing was pretty crazy. I checked into it and it sounds like what they call a microburst. Whatever it is, I hope we don't get them again.


After seeing that footage - Maybe my 70 MPH estimate of the single burst last night was a bit high. lol

It takes quite a bit of force to knock out a side window in a car. And those 400 pound air conditioners, wow. There was supposed to have been bent flag poles or something too. But I didn't see those, though. Nonetheless what an event.

Thanks for the video.

Great contribution to the thread.

You redeemed yourself, somewhat. lol

The sound on my computer wasn't working last night, so I didn't get to hear that video I posted until just now. It was much better with sound! Wow, scary stuff. I feel sorry for anyone who got caught in that while driving.
Hymie, I wasn't being mean when I said "don't be skeered" I was just playin buddy.  I apologize if you thought I was being mean.

Posted by hymiebravo on Jun. 12 2012,7:17 am

(Self-Banished @ Jun. 11 2012,11:26 am)
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(hymiebravo @ Jun. 11 2012,5:41 am)
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(Self-Banished @ Jun. 11 2012,5:16 am)
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(hymiebravo @ Jun. 10 2012,10:11 pm)
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Been rather warm and breezy the last couple of days. There was supposed to be a chance of severe weather, tonight.

1 70 MPH-ish gust and maybe one robust thunder boom. Then that was it. It was all done.  

The bizarre weather streak continues.

Some day perhaps normal weather will return and no one will no what to think of it. lol

Although if it would have been a little earlier in that day it might have been more of a concern. As the tornado window tends to be more common earlier in the day.

Bizzarre weather??? It's almost summer you dope! Wind, rain, it happens, get a grip. :dunce:  :dunce:  :dunce:

Not that I really need to explain anything to a person who just comes to this site to get their gripe on.

But. . .

The reason it was bizarre, to me anyway, was the one robust wind burst and one thunder boom part. Then that was it, basically.

That was odd I thought.

P.S. Stop sullying my pristine weather thread with your nonsense, heckler.

Pristine??? :rofl:

Careful Hymen, arrogance and stupidity are a dangerous combination. :dunce:

Oh yea, what was I thinking. You sully up the entire forum with your nonsense. After looking at the opening page I see this thread was no exception. As you managed to get right in there at the beginning and spread your excrement around.
Posted by hymiebravo on Jun. 12 2012,7:26 am

(Rosalind_Swenson @ Jun. 11 2012,7:20 pm)
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(hymiebravo @ Jun. 11 2012,5:52 am)
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That New Ulm thing was pretty crazy. I checked into it and it sounds like what they call a microburst. Whatever it is, I hope we don't get them again.


After seeing that footage - Maybe my 70 MPH estimate of the single burst last night was a bit high. lol

It takes quite a bit of force to knock out a side window in a car. And those 400 pound air conditioners, wow. There was supposed to have been bent flag poles or something too. But I didn't see those, though. Nonetheless what an event.

Thanks for the video.

Great contribution to the thread.

You redeemed yourself, somewhat. lol

The sound on my computer wasn't working last night, so I didn't get to hear that video I posted until just now. It was much better with sound! Wow, scary stuff. I feel sorry for anyone who got caught in that while driving.
Hymie, I wasn't being mean when I said "don't be skeered" I was just playin buddy.  I apologize if you thought I was being mean.

Do not call me buddy, ever!  

I'm not 3 years old. And you are not my mommy!  

Okay?

Do you understand?

Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 12 2012,7:48 am

(hymiebravo @ Jun. 12 2012,7:17 am)
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(Self-Banished @ Jun. 11 2012,11:26 am)
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(hymiebravo @ Jun. 11 2012,5:41 am)
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(hymiebravo @ Jun. 10 2012,10:11 pm)
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Been rather warm and breezy the last couple of days. There was supposed to be a chance of severe weather, tonight.

1 70 MPH-ish gust and maybe one robust thunder boom. Then that was it. It was all done.  

The bizarre weather streak continues.

Some day perhaps normal weather will return and no one will no what to think of it. lol

Although if it would have been a little earlier in that day it might have been more of a concern. As the tornado window tends to be more common earlier in the day.

Bizzarre weather??? It's almost summer you dope! Wind, rain, it happens, get a grip. :dunce:  :dunce:  :dunce:

Not that I really need to explain anything to a person who just comes to this site to get their gripe on.

But. . .

The reason it was bizarre, to me anyway, was the one robust wind burst and one thunder boom part. Then that was it, basically.

That was odd I thought.

P.S. Stop sullying my pristine weather thread with your nonsense, heckler.

Pristine??? :rofl:

Careful Hymen, arrogance and stupidity are a dangerous combination. :dunce:

Oh yea, what was I thinking. You sully up the entire forum with your nonsense. After looking at the opening page I see this thread was no exception. As you managed to get right in there at the beginning and spread your excrement around.

It's OK Buddy, I just spread the love. :rofl: P
Posted by fredbear on Jun. 12 2012,8:40 am

(hymiebravo @ Jun. 12 2012,7:26 am)
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(Rosalind_Swenson @ Jun. 11 2012,7:20 pm)
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(hymiebravo @ Jun. 11 2012,5:52 am)
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That New Ulm thing was pretty crazy. I checked into it and it sounds like what they call a microburst. Whatever it is, I hope we don't get them again.


After seeing that footage - Maybe my 70 MPH estimate of the single burst last night was a bit high. lol

It takes quite a bit of force to knock out a side window in a car. And those 400 pound air conditioners, wow. There was supposed to have been bent flag poles or something too. But I didn't see those, though. Nonetheless what an event.

Thanks for the video.

Great contribution to the thread.

You redeemed yourself, somewhat. lol

The sound on my computer wasn't working last night, so I didn't get to hear that video I posted until just now. It was much better with sound! Wow, scary stuff. I feel sorry for anyone who got caught in that while driving.
Hymie, I wasn't being mean when I said "don't be skeered" I was just playin buddy.  I apologize if you thought I was being mean.

Do not call me buddy, ever!  

I'm not 3 years old. And you are not my mommy!  

Okay?

Do you understand?

:crazy:
Posted by Botto 82 on Jun. 12 2012,9:53 am
What should we call you?

Syndrome?  :rofl:

Posted by MADDOG on Jun. 12 2012,11:09 am

(Botto 82 @ Jun. 12 2012,9:53 am)
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What should we call you?

Maybe a sheeny or hyman buddy.  :D

I think it was hit on already.

Posted by Rosalind_Swenson on Jun. 12 2012,3:03 pm

(hymiebravo @ Jun. 12 2012,7:26 am)
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(Rosalind_Swenson @ Jun. 11 2012,7:20 pm)
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(hymiebravo @ Jun. 11 2012,5:52 am)
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That New Ulm thing was pretty crazy. I checked into it and it sounds like what they call a microburst. Whatever it is, I hope we don't get them again.


After seeing that footage - Maybe my 70 MPH estimate of the single burst last night was a bit high. lol

It takes quite a bit of force to knock out a side window in a car. And those 400 pound air conditioners, wow. There was supposed to have been bent flag poles or something too. But I didn't see those, though. Nonetheless what an event.

Thanks for the video.

Great contribution to the thread.

You redeemed yourself, somewhat. lol

The sound on my computer wasn't working last night, so I didn't get to hear that video I posted until just now. It was much better with sound! Wow, scary stuff. I feel sorry for anyone who got caught in that while driving.
Hymie, I wasn't being mean when I said "don't be skeered" I was just playin buddy.  I apologize if you thought I was being mean.

Do not call me buddy, ever!  

I'm not 3 years old. And you are not my mommy!  

Okay?

Do you understand?

I'm sorry! I'm sorry! I'M SORRY!!
Posted by ControlledHyperness on Jun. 12 2012,7:52 pm
Microbursts can at times have the same effect as a weak EF1 tornado. They are usually caused by storms imploding on themselves, thus causing the sudden downburst of wind. I can see how those winds could have caused damage.


The one burst of wind and boom of thunder was testament of how fast it was moving...it came in around 50 mpgh, and left us at 65mph. Odd, but normal.

Posted by hymiebravo on Jun. 13 2012,7:58 am
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The one burst of wind and boom of thunder was testament of how fast it was moving...it came in around 50 mpgh, and left us at 65mph. Odd, but normal.


Good point ControlledHyperness it was moving in lickety-split fashion. And yet it still it managed to wreak havoc in that brief time.

As evidenced by things like this:

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Workers clean up a cottonwood that fell Sunday along the paved trail near Brookside Education Center. The tree fell as a result of strong winds. The Albert Lea airport reported sustained winds of about 25 mph around 5 p.m. A gust at 8:53 p.m. reached 39 mph. --  


I wonder if this wasn't somehow related to the winds as well:

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More than 500 Albert Lea Alliant Energy customers were without power Monday afternoon after two of the company’s power lines were damaged.

Alliant Energy spokesman Justin Foss said the lines were reported damaged on the 300 block of Second Street — just south of The Children’s Center — at about 2:20 p.m.

He was not sure which blocks or streets were affected; however, officers at the Freeborn County Government Center indicated the facility was running on generators for a portion of the afternoon.

Foss said he guessed the lines had been pulled together by some trees, causing them to burn.

Power was expected to be restored by early evening.

Two other unrelated outages were also reported Monday. Foss was also unsure about the cause of those outages.


< http://www.albertleatribune.com/2012...t-power >

Posted by hymiebravo on Jun. 13 2012,8:31 am

(MADDOG @ Jun. 12 2012,11:09 am)
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(Botto 82 @ Jun. 12 2012,9:53 am)
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What should we call you?

Maybe a sheeny or hyman buddy.  :D

I think it was hit on already.

Nice racist comment there reverend.
Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 13 2012,9:00 am
Racist???
Posted by Rosalind_Swenson on Jun. 13 2012,9:26 am
Maybe it's HAARP.

Aww crap. Yeah I knew I was spending too much time in conspiracy sites.

Posted by MADDOG on Jun. 13 2012,11:32 am

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(Botto 82 @ Jun. 12 2012,9:53 am)
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What should we call you?

Maybe a sheeny or hyman buddy.  :D

I think it was hit on already.

Nice racist comment there reverend.

No, I'd call it more of a parody.  The term hymie is racist.
Posted by Botto 82 on Jun. 13 2012,12:45 pm

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The term hymie is racist.

Uhh, no. Judaism is a religion, not a race.
Posted by MADDOG on Jun. 13 2012,1:43 pm

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(MADDOG @ Jun. 13 2012,11:32 am)
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The term hymie is racist.

Uhh, no. Judaism is a religion, not a race.

Then that would make hymie an offensive religious person?
Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 13 2012,2:09 pm
Nope, Hymen's just offensive. :dunce:
Posted by hymiebravo on Jun. 14 2012,8:29 am

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(Botto 82 @ Jun. 13 2012,12:45 pm)
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The term hymie is racist.

Uhh, no. Judaism is a religion, not a race.

Then that would make hymie an offensive religious person?

Sheeny is an ethnic slur.

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Is Jewish a race or a religion?

Answer:
In the modern sense, Jewish can refer to either someone's race or religion while Hebrew is generally a reference to the language. It wasn't always this way, however.


Originally, the race was Hebrew and the religion was Judaism. Over time however, the usage of each term became more blurred.


Jewish can mean a Semitic race or the religion. As a race, Jews trace their roots to Abraham the Hebrew, so technically the race is called Hebrew and is a division of the Semitic races.

Read more: < http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_Jewish_a_race_or_a_religion#ixzz1xm2ueuVb >

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Why are we still debating climate change?

By Carol Costello

updated 8:23 AM EST, Mon February 24, 2014

(CNN) -- There is no debate.

Climate change is real. And, yes, we are, in part, to blame.

There is a 97% consensus among scientific experts that humans are causing global warming. Ninety-seven percent!
Yet some very vocal Americans continue to debate what is surely fact.

The question is, why?

Trust certainly plays a part.

According to Gordon Gauchat, an associate professor of sociology from the University of Wisconsin, just 42% of adults in the U.S. have a great deal of confidence (PDF) in the scientific community.

It's easy to understand why. Most Americans can't even name a living scientist. I suspect the closest many Americans get to a living, breathing scientist is the fictional Dr. Sheldon Cooper from CBS's sitcom "The Big Bang Theory." Sheldon is brilliant, condescending and narcissistic. Whose trust would he inspire?

Nye to Ham: God's not in climate change
But trust isn't the only factor in why many Americans doubt climate change.

I asked Anthony Leiserowitz, the director of the Yale Project on Climate Change Communication. His group has been studying the "why" question for more than a decade.

"We've found there are six very (specific) categories that respond to this issue in different ways," he said.

He calls these categories "Global Warming's Six Americas."
The first group, "The Alarmed," is made up 16% of the public. They believe climate change is an urgent problem but have no clear idea of how to fix it.

The second group (27%) is "The Concerned." They believe climate change is a problem but think it's more about polar bears and tiny islands than a problem that directly affects them.

The third group, "The Cautious" (23%), are people on the fence. They haven't made up their minds whether global warming is real or if it's a man-made problem.
The fourth group, "The Disengaged" (5%), doesn't know anything about climate change.

The fifth group, "The Doubtful" (12%), do not think climate change is man-made. They think it's natural and poses no long-term risk.

Leiserowitz says it's the sixth group, "The Dismissives," that is the most problematic, even though it comprises just 15% of the public.

"They say it's a hoax, scientists are making up data, it's a U.N. conspiracy (or) Al Gore and his friends want to get rich." Leiserowitz goes on to say, "It's a really loud 15%. ... (It's a) pretty well-organized 15%."

And thanks to the media and the political stage, that vocal minority is mighty.

Former presidential candidate Rick Santorum told Glenn Beck on Fox News in 2011, "There is no such thing as global warming." Santorum went on to tell Rush Limbaugh, "It's just an excuse for more government control of your life, and I've never been for any scheme or even accepted the junk science behind the whole narrative."

And just last week, tea party favorite Sen. Ted Cruz told CNN's Dana Bash, "Climate change, as they have defined it, can never be disproved, because whether it gets hotter or whether it gets colder, whatever happens, they'll say, well, it's changing, so it proves our theory."

Meanwhile, the climate change "counter movement" has been helped along by an infusion of cash from, among others, some in the powerful fossil fuel industry.

A recent study by Drexel University found that conservative foundations and others have bankrolled climate denial to the tune of $558 million between 2003 and 2010.

"Money amplifies certain voices above others and, in effect, gives them a megaphone in the public square. Powerful funders are supporting the campaign to deny scientific findings about global warming and raise public doubts about the roots and remedies of this massive global threat," writes environmental scientist Robert J. Brulle, the study's author.

The good news is, those uninformed minority voices are being quieted by nature and by those who have powerful voices.

Extreme weather is forcing people to at least think about how global warming affects them directly. And, perhaps more important, many religious leaders, including evangelicals, are now "green." They concur with the scientific community and take it a step farther. They say we have a moral obligation to save the planet.

Even the enormously popular Pope Francis may soon speak out on global warming. The Vatican press office says Francis is working on draft text on ecology. That text could turn into an encyclical, or a letter to bishops around the world, instructing that the "faithful must respect the environment."

Posted by Self-Banished on Feb. 24 2014,10:16 am
Yep, it's winter and it's cold and snowy,

Most likely global warming :sarcasm:

Posted by Glad I Left on Feb. 24 2014,10:25 am
What a worthless fluff piece.  No evidence to try and even prove some sort of climate change.  Just the vague opening statement of 97% of scientists, yet no data to prove/back that statement.

For the record, I think there is climate change.  There will always be climate change.
Does man affect this?  Yes.  How much?  Hard to tell, yet alone quantify.
I am for clear air and water. But there is a financial balancing act that has to be performed and I have a hard time trusting the affluent talking heads on either side that are out to make a buck.

Posted by Self-Banished on Feb. 24 2014,11:15 am
:clap: ^^^ :clap:
Posted by grassman on Feb. 24 2014,1:06 pm

(Glad I Left @ Feb. 24 2014,10:25 am)
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What a worthless fluff piece.  No evidence to try and even prove some sort of climate change.  Just the vague opening statement of 97% of scientists, yet no data to prove/back that statement.

For the record, I think there is climate change.  There will always be climate change.
Does man affect this?  Yes.  How much?  Hard to tell, yet alone quantify.
I am for clear air and water. But there is a financial balancing act that has to be performed and I have a hard time trusting the affluent talking heads on either side that are out to make a buck.

So you do agree with the article. That is pretty much spot on.
Posted by Glad I Left on Feb. 24 2014,1:45 pm
What is there to agree with?
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There is no debate.

NO.  There is MUCH debate.

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There is a 97% consensus among scientific experts that humans are causing global warming. Ninety-seven percent!

Based on what poll/study/interview.  I want to see the data that proves this statement.  So... NO!

As for the 6 categories, nothing to debate.  Someone came up with 6 arbitrary groups.  I could come with 12, or 2 or 156.

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A recent study by Drexel University found that conservative foundations and others have bankrolled climate denial to the tune of $558 million between 2003 and 2010.

I'm sure that's true, just like there is a ton of money on the global warming side.  You don't think Al Gore got involved out of a deep environmental concern do you?  Me neither, he's like everyone else, in it to make more money.

That there is extreme weather?  Extreme is like large, it is a relative term.  There will always be 'extreme' weather.

My personal favorite is:
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Nye to Ham: God's not in climate change

Followed later by:
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Even the enormously popular Pope Francis may soon speak out on global warming. The Vatican press office says Francis is working on draft text on ecology. That text could turn into an encyclical, or a letter to bishops around the world, instructing that the "faithful must respect the environment."

So on one hand religion doesn't matter, but on the other, we're going to quote the pope.  Hypocrisy at its finest.

I stand by my statement.
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What a worthless fluff piece

Posted by MADDOG on Feb. 24 2014,1:55 pm
O.K., is it over yet?  

Now  :clap:  :clap:  :clap:  to GIL.

Posted by Glad I Left on Feb. 24 2014,2:35 pm
Had to do some looking but i found this piece on the CNN opinion section page.  Go figure.  You are free to write whatever OP ED you want and don't need to have sources to prove your point.

< Worthless Fluff Piece >

Posted by grassman on Feb. 24 2014,9:13 pm
Hey Sherlock, the source is the first three lines after the title. :) Puff, Puff, Pass.
Posted by Self-Banished on Feb. 25 2014,4:52 am
Records

Snow[edit]
Event[3] Measurement Date Location
Earliest recorded snow[1] Trace August 31, 1949 Duluth
Earliest measurable snow 0.3 inch (1 cm) September 14, 1964 International Falls
Latest recorded snow 1.5 inches (4 cm) June 4, 1935 Mizpah
Most snow, 24 hours 36 inches (91 cm) January 7, 1994 Lake County
Most snow, one storm 47 inches (119 cm) January 6–8, 1994 Lake County
Most snow, one month[7] 66 inches (168 cm) March, 1965 Collegeville
Most snow, season 170 inches (432 cm) 1949 – 1950 Grand Portage State Park
Deepest snowpack[7] 75 inches (191 cm) March 28, 1950 Pigeon River Bridge
Most fatalities, winter storm[8] up to 200 January 12–13, 1888 State-wide

Posted by Self-Banished on Feb. 25 2014,4:53 am
Temps


Event[3] Measurement Date Location
Highest Temperature 114 °F (46 °C) July 29, 1917
July 6, 1936 Beardsley
Moorhead
Lowest Temperature −60 °F (−51 °C) February 2, 1996 Embarrass
Tower
Largest single-day change 71 °F drop (39 °C drop) April 3, 1982 Lamberton

Posted by Glad I Left on Feb. 25 2014,7:48 am

(grassman @ Feb. 24 2014,9:13 pm)
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Hey Sherlock, the source is the first three lines after the title. :) Puff, Puff, Pass.

I noticed that after I found the original source.  Unfortunately your copy/paste didn't do the hyperlinks.  It was a lot of reading and I didn't have time to digest it all yet.

And for the record, I am not Sybil.  I don't puff puff or pass... :)

Posted by MADDOG on Feb. 25 2014,8:10 am

(grassman @ Feb. 24 2014,9:13 pm)
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Hey Sherlock, the source is the first three lines after the title. :) Puff, Puff, Pass.

Naw, I'd say it's in the very small by-line at the end of her opinion column.  
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The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Carol Costello.

Posted by Liberal on Feb. 25 2014,10:24 am
< http://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus >
Posted by Self-Banished on Feb. 25 2014,11:52 am
Oooooh, NASA, the gov. Should know, we'll just mindlessly bow down. :sarcasm:
Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Feb. 25 2014,12:31 pm
Bill Nye is a hack.
The article is pure fluff.  No mention of solar radiation, the magnetic field of the Sun in relation to the concentric path the Earth takes, nor any data of solar flare effects during high or low activity.

Man having a climate change influence on the Earth is about as possible as a single cell amoeba gaining the ability to sprout wings and soar like an Eagle.

Posted by Roadhouse on Feb. 25 2014,1:49 pm
Bill Nye is not a hack, a very reputable scientist. What is a "sell"? Do you mean "cell"? Stay in the baby pool and quit acting like you belong in the adult swim.
Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Feb. 25 2014,3:36 pm
Naw, he is a hack.
You clue in on my one error, and nothing else.  I don't buy into or espouse the BS global warming religion and you come up with baby pool.
Baby pool; how clever, think of that all on your own did ya.
pfft you are dismissed.

Posted by grassman on Feb. 25 2014,3:57 pm
I hope you have your boots ready when we send our Spring thaw down to you. :laugh:
Posted by sumpdump on Mar. 05 2014,6:10 am
Last nights predictions by our local want to be weather forcasters...2-4 inches.
Actual - 10"
Only missed the mark by 6"

In truth....EPIC FAIL!
Bring on the spring Floodsssssssssss

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