Topic: OMG tuttle only got 42 months
started by: mncowgirl
Posted by mncowgirl on Aug. 30 2011,2:44 pm
OMG Tuttle only got 42 months in jail, she should get 5 yrs for every count she had against her, she only got half the time she should have got just for what she stole from me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I cant believe this crap, I get 15 yrs of suffering just to try to recover from the money she took from me and she only gets $*%^*^$$*$*$*$*$ 42 months!
Posted by the unc on Aug. 30 2011,2:47 pm
I know this isn't going to help, but, she was only brought up on one count of wire fraud....thus she got just about sentenced for one count if your 5 years per count is right. I know it isn't right, but, that's the court judgement for you!
Posted by mncowgirl on Aug. 30 2011,2:59 pm
how in the hell is she going to pay us victims full resitution is she going to pull it out of her ass?
?? im so angry I might as well roll over in my grave now!
Posted by Whiskero on Aug. 30 2011,3:45 pm
We should be thankful that she got anything. Too many people get off with a slap on the hand.
Posted by Alfy Packer on Aug. 30 2011,4:01 pm
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how in the hell is she going to pay us victims full resitution
The Albert Lea area had another fairly famous "CON" who openned a popcorn stand while serving time in prison. Maybe she could start small with an easy bake oven and work up to a McDonnalds or something. Just because she is doing time, doesn't mean she has to be unable to earn money.
Posted by Stone-Magnon on Aug. 30 2011,4:29 pm
She got a three year term after reductions. 3 years...3 years. That's about $350,000 cash a year. Freeborn county would have given HER probation so yes we should be thankful for something.
We see fit to punish many many drug cases much more harshly than if you steal a million dollars.
The message to society is stealing a million dollars isn't as bad as smoking or selling pot. Bullcrap. The hell it is. You're just insane.
Posted by dutchess on Aug. 30 2011,4:39 pm
Stone Head ! Not true look at Wendy Woodson Methhead dealer got off with 20 years probation !!!! How many times has she been busted???
Posted by simpleopinion on Aug. 30 2011,4:41 pm
Absolutely does suck for you and others mncowgirl, but really how did you expect her to pay all that money back. I have to agree with stone, at least it wasnt decided in Freeborn County, at least she is getting some sort of punishment even if it doesn't seem like enough.
Posted by Stone-Magnon on Aug. 30 2011,5:03 pm
You somehow think 20 years probation is better than 3 years and it's over? Kooky. Many people prefer to do years in prison than get out early with 5 years probation. No one has done 20 years probation without going to prison to do the original time.
It's clear to me that many of you did not get a good public education and know little about crime and punishment. Was I one of the only kids who read in and out of school?
I know guys like Jim Hanson got a pretty good public education but after the 70's forget it. I remember there was a very distinct point and I remember it well when I noticed no clerk could do simple head math anymore. Like when people are amazed when I can do math in my head high as a kite. I mean I've got to be the one all lit up on toke, and half drunk at the same time and try to figure out the right math for these guys.
Posted by GEOKARJO on Aug. 30 2011,5:29 pm
She will never be out of the court system till she pays back the money.
Posted by Stone-Magnon on Aug. 30 2011,6:00 pm
Her living conditions in minimum security federal will be like college dorm living, even the rooms look the same. She'll work during the day and chill at night in her room after a good workout on the exercise bike. Tutt's gonna come out swangin' I tell you. She'll drop about 60 pounds and her life and health will be prolonged. This saved her life. After it's all over she'll be able to look back and connect the dots.
When I gazed into my crystal balls I saw Mrs. Tuttle dying of health related weight issues in 6 years and 3 months. That will not happen as the vision is gone now. This saved Tuttles life.
Posted by grassman on Aug. 30 2011,6:44 pm
Will it cure her RLS? 
Posted by Liberal on Aug. 30 2011,7:48 pm
I could do 42 months standing on my head for that kind of money.
Posted by MADDOG on Aug. 30 2011,8:31 pm
OK. Couldn't resist.
Posted by mncowgirl on Aug. 30 2011,8:43 pm
thanks for the good remarks, but ya all are not in my shoes! ya didn't loose your whole life because of her, I just wish I didn't buy my dream house, no one is sposto be happy these days ha? she took it all away! I will go back to being just stupid! im done with my remarks! no one cares and I dont anymore either!
Posted by Stone-Magnon on Aug. 30 2011,9:38 pm
I'm sure I lost far more than you did... 
Not in your shoes...really?
Let me sang you a song about it...mmmK?
Posted by alcitizens on Aug. 30 2011,10:43 pm
(mncowgirl @ Aug. 30 2011,8:43 pm)
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thanks for the good remarks, but ya all are not in my shoes! ya didn't loose your whole life because of her, I just wish I didn't buy my dream house, no one is sposto be happy these days ha? she took it all away! I will go back to being just stupid! im done with my remarks! no one cares and I dont anymore either!
I think you and your family should have a fundraiser like those with medical bills.
The Moose Lodge would be open to one and I would call it the "Linda Tuttle took my money but not my Dreams Fund"
I'd show up for a Hamburger feed, maybe a Fish Fry.. I think you'd get alot of support from the Community.. Maybe an article in the Trib or KAAL..
Good Luck..
Posted by busybee on Aug. 31 2011,12:21 am
mncowgirl · Posted on Aug. 30 2011,8:43 pm***thanks for the good remarks, but ya all are not in my shoes! ***
I understand what you're saying mncowgirl. No matter what, other's are going to tell you; who, what, why, when and where YOU should do/think/believe/trust, get over this and how YOU should be acting/speaking/writing/telling, ect... about this harm committed upon you, even though they've not walked in your shoes.
***ya didn't loose your whole life because of her,***
If you're not dead yet, if there are others who live with you in your home that aren't dead because of her, you're whole life is not lost because of her.
I'm in no way miminizing you and your family's pain and suffering. I understand that the judicial process and delivery of justice is NOT as pretty of a picture that the majority of others trust it to be.
Financial loss is devastating.
***I just wish I didn't buy my dream house, no one is sposto be happy these days ha? she took it all away***
You are entitled to happiness...and NO ONE has the right to steal it from you.
Sadly, I will admit to learning that the majority of U.S. Society, Judicial System, ect...will sit back and allow it to be done to others over and over again because they do not care to recognize the logical differences between a criminal's rights and a victim's rights.
***I will go back to being just stupid! im done with my remarks! no one cares and I dont anymore either! ***
You are NOT STUPID...IMHO, for what it's worth.
I don't believe you don't care about what you've been forced to endure and suffer because of someone else's choices...
If you ever want to discuss this away from A.L.Com...just PM me. I HONESTLY know what you're gong through...sadly.
Hang in there mncowgirl...
Posted by busybee on Aug. 31 2011,12:31 am
Stone Magon...The REALITY and LOGIC continues to be that YOU defend, respect and appreciate ONLY those people who you claim are ALWAYS WRONGFULLY ACCUSED VICTIMS of illegal drug crimes and sex crimes...
Grow up SM!!
Posted by busybee on Aug. 31 2011,12:35 am
A.L.Citizens...Clap, Cheer, Thumbsup, Bowing to YOU, ect... for what you wrote to mncowgirl!!!
Posted by busybee on Aug. 31 2011,1:06 am
Oh...wait...I forgot to put in all the "disclaimer's" necessary to "validate" my writing on this site and particular thread. Let's see...
First of all...Chad Hayson, A.L. Com and it's "affiliates" have NO INFLUENCE or LIABILITY for what I have ever written in the past, present or future on this discussion forum.
Second...Stone Magon...when the day arrives that you are considered a "victim" of a crime because of a crime you committed or someone else committed that you believe should be "legal, rather than "illegal" STFU!!!
You do not and never have proven you care about any REAL and HONEST VICTIMS of a CRIMES, including Ms. Tuttle's or any other Victims.
Your personal agenda opposing certain U.S Laws based upon the "victimization" of those accused of breaking these law, such as Illegal Drug Crimes and/or Sexual Abuse Crimes is who YOU care about MOST...
How much more FAKE can you get than that Stone???
Grow UP!!!
Posted by busybee on Aug. 31 2011,1:16 am
A lie and/or excuse for harming another is ONLY beneficial to the person who intends to decieve and get away with it...Yet the majority continues to believe the "truth" actually lies somewhere in between one thing or two or mores "stories" or another. The U.S. society continues to error on the side of evil...it's reasoning, excuses, ect...
Sad...so very sad!
Posted by Stone-Magnon on Aug. 31 2011,2:00 am
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Following Tuttle’s release from prison, she will be on supervised release for three years with the U.S. Probation Office and must adhere to a long list of conditions.
The conditions included committing no crimes, having no controlled substances, not possessing firearms or ammunition, cooperating with requests for DNA samples and participating in a psychological counseling program.
The conditions included committing no crimes, having no controlled substances, not possessing firearms or ammunition, cooperating with requests for DNA samples and participating in a psychological counseling program.
Let me explain a little about how this works. The court ORDERS you to see a psychologist or psychiatrist. ORDERS you...got it?
Now the shrink and/or his hospital KNOW they have a blank check staring them in the face. This is all about $$$. They KNOW the person must fund and complete whatever treatment they decide. Weekly group sessions without end...well you get the picture. Some private shrinks will be honest with you and tell you they have a blank check and you can bargain with them. The system is corrupt and only wants money.
Listen up folks. When welfare recipients are busted for pot and the judge makes em go to a shrink AND drug treatment, you taxpayers take a double hit. Your taxes pay for both of these treatments by providers who KNOW you MUST comply. They will bill medicare $10,000. It's why public payments have exploded. These providers know they can bill welfare people the most because the taxpayers are paying for it. They actually encourage you to apply for assistance to pay for treatment so they can bill high. You can't get blood out of a stone.
Posted by Stone-Magnon on Aug. 31 2011,3:12 am
Funeral InformationHome: Newton, IA
Date of Death: August 11, 2011
Place of Birth: Newton, IA
Birthdate: October 09, 1980
Age: 30
Funeral Service: Saturday, August 20, 2011 11:00 AM Pence-Reese Funeral Home, Newton, IA
Visitation: Friday, August 19, 2011 Visitation with the family will be from 6 - 8pm at Pence ~ Reese Funeral Home, Newton, IA
Interment: Merle Hay Crematory, Des Moines, IA
Biography
Leslie Joseph "Big Joe" Richardson, the son of Rick Runells and Terry Hall, was born October 9, 1980 in Newton, Iowa. On September 6, 2008, "Big Joe" was united in marriage with Kasey Anne Chance in Newton, Iowa.
Big Joe enjoyed bicycling and spending time with his children. He had worked for Dodd's Recycling in Newton.
Big Joe died on Thursday, August 11, 2011 in Newton Iowa. He was 30 years old. Big Joe was preceded in death by his maternal grandmother, Peggy Walker; his maternal great grandfather, Leslie Martin; his brother, Marvin Leslie Gragg, Sr.; an uncle who raised him, Marvin Joseph Gragg; and a son, Little Joe.
Those left to honor Big Joe's memory include his wife, Kasey Anne Richardson of Newton; his sons, Jarrin Sedlock of Grinnell, Kenneth Chance of Newton, Keegan Freeman of Newton, Caleb Johnson of Killduff; his daughters, Alexis Freeman of Newton, Abbigail Chance of Newton, Aireona Richardson of Newton; his brother, Michael Eugene Willy of Rock Springs, WY; his sister, Dawn (Carl) Bragg of Newton; his parents, Terry Turner of Newton and Rick Runnells of Idaho; an aunt who raised him, Elizabeth “Liz” Gragg of Newton; his maternal grandfather, Michael Walker of Rock Springs, WY and his maternal great grandmother, Darlene Martin.
Services will be held 11:00 a.m. Saturday, August 20, 2011 at the Pence ~ Reese Funeral Home in Newton. The family will greet friends from 6:00 p.m. until 8:00 p.m. Friday at the funeral home. Memorials in his name may be left at the Pence ~ Reese Funeral Hom
Posted by Stone-Magnon on Aug. 31 2011,3:18 am
Inmate death at Newton prison ruled suicideBy Daily News Staff
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An inmate serving a five-year sentence at the Newton Correctional Facility (NCF) for prohibited acts (marijuana) has committed suicide according to a press releases by facility officials.
Leslie Joseph Richardson, 30, of Newton was discovered unresponsive at 7 p.m. Thursday in his cell during routine unit checks. EMS responders found Richardson in a sitting position above the floor with a bed sheet wrapped around his neck. The sheet was tied to the top of the upper bunk bed frame in the inmate’s cell.
Emergency workers attempted to revive Richardson but were unsuccessful, and the on-site attending physician pronounced him dead at 7:26 p.m.
Autopsy results for Richardson have yet to be released, but NCF spokesperson Fred Scaletta says the anticipated cause of death is asphyxia due to suffocation.
An investigation is still ongoing this morning.
Richardson began serving his sentence on June 29, 2010.
"Whats even worse is to think of what he was going through behind the prison walls that was worse than living. Society does this to people. Our own people."
Posted by Wolfie on Aug. 31 2011,1:12 pm
Sounds like a weak person to me. Weak for having to rely on marijuana for his high or his paycheck either way. And weak for choosing the easy way out.
Posted by MADDOG on Aug. 31 2011,1:14 pm
But then this thread is about Tuttle.
Posted by busybee on Sep. 02 2011,1:58 am
Maddog...Since mncowgirl started this thread and is a victim of Ms. Tuttle's crimes that negatively affected her and all others in her life that are close to her...I interpretted this thread as being about mncowgirl...not Ms. Tuttle.
At what point in the U.S. "legal/judicial" process and "U.S. society's" belief system will "we" error on the side of paying attention to and respecting VICTIMS of crimes committed against them instead of trying to "figure out" and spend all our money on tring to "fix and change" the DEFENDANTS charged for committing a crime harmful to another U.S. Citizien?
At what point will U.S. Society begin to acknowledge it's own ignorance?
Posted by This is my real name on Sep. 02 2011,6:53 am
(busybee @ Sep. 02 2011,1:58 am)
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Maddog...
Since mncowgirl started this thread and is a victim of Ms. Tuttle's crimes that negatively affected her and all others in her life that are close to her...I interpretted this thread as being about mncowgirl...not Ms. Tuttle.
At what point in the U.S. "legal/judicial" process and "U.S. society's" belief system will "we" error on the side of paying attention to and respecting VICTIMS of crimes committed against them instead of trying to "figure out" and spend all our money on tring to "fix and change" the DEFENDANTS charged for committing a crime harmful to another U.S. Citizien?
At what point will U.S. Society begin to acknowledge it's own ignorance?
Since mncowgirl started this thread and is a victim of Ms. Tuttle's crimes that negatively affected her and all others in her life that are close to her...I interpretted this thread as being about mncowgirl...not Ms. Tuttle.
At what point in the U.S. "legal/judicial" process and "U.S. society's" belief system will "we" error on the side of paying attention to and respecting VICTIMS of crimes committed against them instead of trying to "figure out" and spend all our money on tring to "fix and change" the DEFENDANTS charged for committing a crime harmful to another U.S. Citizien?
At what point will U.S. Society begin to acknowledge it's own ignorance?
Are you turning this thread into being about you and what you went through as a victim of abuse?
Posted by MADDOG on Sep. 02 2011,7:03 am
BB, with a title of "OMG tuttle only got 42 months, I see it more about her. At what point do you start making it more about victims rights and less about the accused? How can it be done. Defense lawyers have free reign. Our country is partially founded on the rights of the accused, you know, innocent until found guilty. But once a person is found guilty, things need to change to give the guilty what society deems a punishment, not how much can the defense drudge this out to make the excuses why this person did the crime to lessen the punishment.
Anyway, back to the topic. Bias or not, I think the unc put it as it is.
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I know this isn't going to help, but, she was only brought up on one count of wire fraud...thus she got just about sentenced for one count if your 5 years per count is right. I know it isn't right, but, that's the court judgement for you!
Posted by busybee on Sep. 02 2011,7:57 pm
This is my real name...****Are you turning this thread into being about you and what you went through as a victim of abuse?****
Tell me the "correct" answer to your question because I don't understand what your motivation is for asking since my children and I have never benefitted in any way, shape or form from being victims of domestic violence crimes in the United States of America...including financially...just because I've written on this discussion forum about it.
As far as I am concerned, Mncowgirl is "venting" about the "injustice" of being a VICTIM of another PERSON'S Criminal CHOICES that has and CONTINUES to be a financial HARDSHIP for HER and all others who are negatively impacted by Ms. Tuttle's stealing money from HER.
Even as I write this...MORE MONEY has been spent for and on behalf of Ms. Tuttle, regardless of what the U.S. Judicial System does to hold her "accountable" for the crimes she was charged with.
How much MONEY has been spent and provided for on behalf of mncowgirl by ANYONE in the U.S. to ensure the American Dream mncowgirl was pursing prior to Ms. Tuttle's illegal choice to STEAL that hard earned money from her?
The difference is mncowgirl worked and earned U.S. Money with respect, not deceit...yet...mncowgirl is now the LAST on the LIST of being respected or supported for what she was doing to pursue the American Dream in Honesty so that she and others closest to her wouldn't NEED anyone else's money to survive.
Mncowgirl earned and worked for her money/success in HONESTY and RESPECT of the American Dream and Ms. Tuttle destroyed that...NOT mncowgirl.
Yet, 99% of U.S. Citizen's are going to allow their local, state and federal U.S. Government to "tap" them out financially with taxes and pay for Ms. Tuttle's "rights" as a criminal defendant in the U.S.
What's left for mncowgirl even though she didn't commit any crimes...???
ZERO!!!
You and so many just don't get it that "real victims of crimes" are the LAST on the LIST to be respresented or receive restitution for a crime (s) committed against them.
It's sad...yet true...
Posted by This is my real name on Sep. 02 2011,8:11 pm
I understand and appreciate that there are real victims of crime. I have known many of them, and have been one of them. My point is that you said that mncowgirl made this thread about her, when you seem to do the same in quite a few threads, whether or not you started them. You have a tendency to make things about your struggle, and it was hypocritical of you to make that comment about mncowgirl.Are you the pot or the kettle?
Posted by busybee on Sep. 03 2011,3:12 pm
This is my real name · Posted on Sep. 02 2011,8:11 pm***I understand and appreciate that there are real victims of crime. I have known many of them, and have been one of them. ***
If you understand and empthasize with victims of crimes...I applaud you!
****My point is that you said that mncowgirl made this thread about her, when you seem to do the same in quite a few threads, whether or not you started them. You have a tendency to make things about your struggle, and it was hypocritical of you to make that comment about mncowgirl.****
I don't know what your intention is with this accusation that you are implying about me.
Not ONCE did I write or imply that I am "judging" mncowgirl in any way, shape or form for starting this thread.
I also have NOT accused mncowgirl in any way, shape or form of being "wrong" for writing about how she has been negatively impacted by the crimes committed by Tuttle and her disappointment in the judicial outcome of Tuttle's sentencing in this thread.
***Are you the pot or the kettle? ***
I guess that's up to you to decide...not me...After all, it's YOU who is claiming to have full disclosure and knowledge of my thoughts and choices about what and why I write what I do on here...
Posted by scorenix on Sep. 03 2011,9:14 pm
(busybee @ Sep. 02 2011,7:57 pm)
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As far as I am concerned, Mncowgirl is "venting" about the "injustice" of being a VICTIM of another PERSON'S Criminal CHOICES that has and CONTINUES to be a financial HARDSHIP for HER and all others who are negatively impacted by Ms. Tuttle's stealing money from HER.
Even as I write this...MORE MONEY has been spent for and on behalf of Ms. Tuttle, regardless of what the U.S. Judicial System does to hold her "accountable" for the crimes she was charged with.
Even as I write this...MORE MONEY has been spent for and on behalf of Ms. Tuttle, regardless of what the U.S. Judicial System does to hold her "accountable" for the crimes she was charged with.
So what's your solution? From what you write, locking her up and throwing away the key would still result in more money being spent on her than her victim. Or merely letting her go would be a travesty of justice and only advancing your theory that victims are ignored.
So I'm curious how you would serve "justice" in this case?
Posted by busybee on Sep. 07 2011,10:24 pm
MADDOG · Posted on Sep. 02 2011,7:03 amQUOTE
BB, with a title of "OMG tuttle only got 42 months, I see it more about her.
Yea...that makes sense also.
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At what point do you start making it more about victims rights and less about the accused? How can it be done.
I'm not stating that U.S. Due Process needs to be more about victims than an accused rights.
I simply believe victims aren't considered and respected enough by the U.S. Judicial System and Society as in the past.
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Defense lawyers have free reign.
Actually, based upon personal experience and research on U.S. State Prosecutor's, Judges, Criminal Defense Attorney's and Sentencing Guidelines Committes/Commisions; EACH and EVERYONE is included in your "free reign" theory.
Sorry...
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Our country is partially founded on the rights of the accused, you know, innocent until found guilty.
Yea, I'm very aware of this.
I'm also very aware at how well the innocent until found guilty as it applies to an HONEST ACCUSED DEFENDANT
in this country is being destroyed by the HONESTLY GUILTY who get to enjoy the privileges of INNOCENCE through a plea bargain agreement.
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But once a person is found guilty, things need to change to give the guilty what society deems a punishment, not how much can the defense drudge this out to make the excuses why this person did the crime to lessen the punishment.
Exactly!!!
And, once again, the fault is not exclusively owned by "defense attorney's."
We also have to look at U.S. State Prosecutor's, Judges and Sentencing Guidelines Commisions for playing their role in this and also at U.S. Society's eager acceptance of "excusable crimes."
Certainly our country was once about WHO is HONESTLY innocent until proven guilty, yet who is innocent and who is guilty has turned into a very 'gray area' with little empasis on defining the distinct differences that exist between what is legal vs illegal/right vs wrong/good vs evil, moral vs immoral, accountable vs unaccountable, human error vs intention harm, ect...
Not too many people care to KNOW or akcknowledge what it is like to take one single step in the shoes of a U.S. Citizen who has suffered WRONGFULL hardship created and caused by another U.S. Citizen.
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'Anyway, back to the topic. Bias or not, I think the unc put it as it is.
I know this isn't going to help, but, she was only brought up on one count of wire fraud...thus she got just about sentenced for one count if your 5 years per count is right. I know it isn't right, but, that's the court judgement for you!
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I know this isn't going to help, but, she was only brought up on one count of wire fraud...thus she got just about sentenced for one count if your 5 years per count is right. I know it isn't right, but, that's the court judgement for you!
I AGREE with you and the "unc!!"
Posted by MADDOG on Sep. 08 2011,11:04 pm
(scorenix @ Sep. 03 2011,9:14 pm)
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So what's your solution? From what you write, locking her up and throwing away the key would still result in more money being spent on her than her victim. Or merely letting her go would be a travesty of justice and only advancing your theory that victims are ignored.
So I'm curious how you would serve "justice" in this case?
So I'm curious how you would serve "justice" in this case?
Maybe they should let her try her luck. Throw the dice, double or nothing.
Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Sep. 08 2011,11:12 pm
(MADDOG @ Sep. 08 2011,11:04 pm)
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(scorenix @ Sep. 03 2011,9:14 pm)
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So what's your solution? From what you write, locking her up and throwing away the key would still result in more money being spent on her than her victim. Or merely letting her go would be a travesty of justice and only advancing your theory that victims are ignored.
So I'm curious how you would serve "justice" in this case?
So I'm curious how you would serve "justice" in this case?
Maybe they should let her try her luck. Throw the dice, double or nothing.
Careful maddog, with her being on that there medication that induces the urge to gamble and stymie any and all self control not to gamble could be construed as giving crack to a recovering crack addict.
The meds made me do it, WOW what a defense
Posted by busybee on Sep. 14 2011,9:04 pm
scorenix · Posted on Sep. 03 2011,9:14 pmSorry scorenix...
I don't visit or post on this site very often anymore...so, I apologize for the delay in my getting back to you.
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So what's your solution?
I don't have any solutions and I've never claimed that I do. All I have to offer is my thoughts, ideas, experiences and opinions that you can read at YOUR OWN RISK.
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From what you write, locking her up and throwing away the key would still result in more money being spent on her than her victim.
I didn't write that I wanted Tuttle locked up and the key to her release thrown away.
As far as I am concerned, Tuttle only spent MORE at the expense of her victims, U.S.Tax payers and the Judicial Systems TIME and MONEY when she pleaded NOT GUILTY to ALL the CRIMINAL CHARGES against her.
For over a year...all TIME and MONEY spent was on behalf of Tuttle's U.S. Due Process RIGHTS because SHE CHOOSE to play the "INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY BEYOND a REASONABLE DOUBT card.
Tuttle threw in her TRUMP card, yet when push came to shove...she folded and refused to play her hand.
She was bluffing...yet, she still got paid and walked away from her gambling with the U.S. Judicial System better off than her opponents...her victims and U.S. Taxpayers.
enough on herself and her defense at the expense and time of taxpayers and the just tired of the U.S. criminal defendants, such as Tuttle who plea to being "NOT GUILTY" to all charges against them only to later plea bargain to being "GUILTY" of something related to what they were charged with.
Now, Tuttle can gamble with NOT having to pay any resitution to her victims because she is incarerated and as an undermployed/self-employed criminal defendant on probation for as long as she has to avoid ever giving a dime to her real victims.
Why?
Because Tuttle will always see herself as the REAL VICTIM of circumstances beyond her control. We really can't expect someone who claims to have NO KNOWLEDGE of the difference between RIGHT and WRONG because she was taking medication perscribed by a Dr..
Tuttle can claim she's SORRY and REGRETS what she's done to her VICTIMS...but until she CHOOSES to make her life about PAYING them back for HER POOR CHOICES...I don't care what she WRITES to the A.L. Tribune to apologize.
Sorry's are good. Change is always BETTER.
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Or merely letting her go would be a travesty of justice and only advancing your theory that victims are ignored.
Victims are ONLY IGNORED because NOT ENOUGH people CARE about INDIVIDUAL U.S. VICTIMS OF Crime (s) committed by another U.S. Citizen (s).
Look at the Humane Society...
People donated to them without question because poor little "puppy" and "kitty" NEED to be taken care and how dare Tuttle take even ONE PENNY from DEFENSELESS ANIMALS and their FUTURE HOME and SECURITY in the COMMUNITY.
So, how many of the community members made a meal or donated MONEY to PEOPLE and their FAMILIES of the COMMUNITY who lost MONEY and SECURITY for their FUTURE because Tuttle STOLE from them as she did from the DEFENSELESS ANIMALS of the HUMANE SOCIETY?
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So I'm curious how you would serve "justice" in this case?
Justice?
How is that possible when 99% of the people depend on the Judicial System to take care of and deliver "justice" to victims of crimes instead of caring enough to know if it's a FACT that it actually gets accomplished?
If after 10 years, will YOU or anyone else care if mncowgirl recieved her restituion (monetary payback) from Tuttle???
Maybe we should start requiring that U.S. Criminal Defendant's who plea NOT GUILTY not be released to live freely in our communities as ifthey are innocent until proven guilty if the best they can give is a plea bargain to being GUILTY for reduced charges and dismissmals of charges LATER instead.
Maybe we should require that every U.S. Defendant who pleas to not being guilty of any criminal charges filed against them, has to follow through with facing their victims/accusers and challenge the evidence gathered against them based upon DUE PROCESS at a trial by jury or judge?
I wish I could "fix" and had the "solutions" to this issue...
Posted by Sitting Bull on Sep. 28 2011,6:03 am
Camp Cupcake. Martha Stewart's old stomping grounds.< Tuttle to report to prison today >
< One Inmate's Experience >
Posted by Stone-Magnon on Sep. 28 2011,6:54 am
Wow, the medical marijuana user, even while sick has to go to crime school with the real criminals in a real prison. John Mellencamp was right. The simple man, baby really does pay the bills= Pink Houses.
Posted by dlr021 on Oct. 02 2011,9:26 pm
im going to ship her some paint so that she can use some to decorate her cell block and the rest to paint license plates