Topic: Letter to the Editor.
started by: Boomerrang
Posted by Boomerrang on Aug. 24 2011,2:33 pm
This person makes a good point. BINGO. Crime requires little time in Minn.
Published 8:50am Wednesday, August 24, 2011
.A recent Albert Lea Tribune article stated that low life Leo Kobinski received 15 years probation after pleading guilty of sexual abuse of a 5 year old. It is inconceivable that he is not in prison for a long time. The Millers in Austin received only one year in jail for chaining their 5-year-old to his crib, and they could possibly work on some plan to later obtain custody of the boy. That, too, is unbelievable! I also read where Linda Tuttle could receive a prison sentence or possibly a “supervised release and a fine.”
Maybe since she was once a county commissioner they should just name a county road after her too. These three crimes surely point out that if you commit a crime of any nature, make sure you do in Minnesota.
Jack Moore,
CA.
Posted by Stone-Magnon on Aug. 24 2011,3:17 pm
Naw, just make sure you don't commit a DRUG crime in MN or admitted child abuse victim and perp Cory Farris with have your nuts in a sling.They have no problem about throwing you in jail for 25 years over that. And the child molester will even help in your capture and incarceration.
Posted by alcitizens on Aug. 24 2011,4:56 pm
If a person gets a DUI for refusing to blow and later is found not guilty by a jury or the case is dismissed, that person still has to go a year without a drivers license, pay like $700 to get their license back and the refusal stays on their record.Does a child molester, drug dealer or the thief that steals a million dolars have to go a year without a drivers license.. NO!!
Posted by Common Citizen on Aug. 24 2011,8:58 pm
That's your liberal judges and liberal court system for ya. Sheesh, which way do you want it? 
Everybody knows most judges were lawyers and most lawyers are liberals. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out.
Nuff said...
Posted by Stone-Magnon on Aug. 24 2011,9:40 pm
^Oh boy are you an idiot. The GOP judge with the GOP wife who was the ex GOP state rep made the call. The other judge is also a card carrying GOP guy. Most judges are former prosecutors who lean GOP.Just shut up when you don't have a clue CC. I mean really. I have to follow you around and pick up your doggy doo doo.
Posted by Liberal on Aug. 24 2011,9:43 pm
Funny, I thought judge Schwab was a republican? I mean his wife was a republitard state senator, and he was appointed by a republitard governor, seems to me that would make him one of yours.
Posted by Liberal on Aug. 24 2011,9:43 pm
You beat me to it. 
Posted by irisheyes on Aug. 24 2011,11:52 pm
But it's still the liberals fault, you people with all your facts and information, and more facts. Ugh, it's annoying. Can't you just recognize that it's always a liberals fault? Even when a conservative judge who was a prosecutor, appointed by a republican Governor, it's still the damn liberals. 
Hold on, I'm going to see if I can find a forwarded email or a conservative blog that I can use as proof of what I said above. Or maybe Breeze or Santorini will beat me to it.
Posted by jimhanson on Aug. 25 2011,7:24 pm
The majority of lawyers DO contribute to liberals.From the Washington Examiner--addressing the issue of why Tort Reform is never passed, despite its popularity with voters. null< My Webpage >
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In the ranking by OpenSecrets.org of campaign contributions by the top 100 special interests during the past 20 years, the American Association for Justice (AAJ) – formerly the Association of Trial Lawyers of America – ranks sixth overall. The AAJ is the trial lawyers’ Washington lobbying group, and 90 percent of its $30.7 million in contributions since 1989 went to Democrats. At the other end of this pay-to-play process in the nation’s capitol, AAJ has spent nearly $14 million lobbying Congress just since Democrats won control of both chambers, including $2.3 million thus far this year.
The Democratic focus of the plaintiffs bar is even more obvious from campaign contributions of National Journal’s top 15 class-action trial attorney firms. As the Examiner’s David Freddoso and Kevin Mooney reported last week, those firms have contributed in 2009 more than $636,000, 99 percent of which went to Democrats. And employees of those firms have given more than $236,000 to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee this year. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid faces an uphill re-election battle, but the top trial lawyers firms are right there for him, with contributions totaling some $54,000 to date.
Read more at the Washington Examiner: < ]http://washingtonexaminer.com/editori...] >
Check these charts on OpenSecrets for distribution of money from lawyers. < My Webpage >
Posted by Liberal on Aug. 25 2011,7:27 pm
Are you trying to say that the local judge isn't a republican, or are you just arguing for the sake of arguing, again?
Posted by Boomerrang on Aug. 25 2011,7:56 pm
(Liberal @ Aug. 24 2011,9:43 pm)
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Funny, I thought judge Schwab was a republican? I mean his wife was a republitard state senator, and he was appointed by a republitard governor, seems to me that would make him one of yours.
You mean his EX-Wife.
Posted by ControlledHyperness on Aug. 25 2011,9:08 pm
(Stone-Magnon @ Aug. 24 2011,9:40 pm)
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Oh boy are you an idiot. The GOP judge with the GOP wife who was the ex GOP state rep made the call. The other judge is also a card carrying GOP guy.
WOW!!! Sounds like someone who tracks down their family tree in Arkansas....Oh wait!!! Nevermind...there isn't a lot of difference between Stone Magnon/Phil Hartman/TTT/minnow's mind and someone from Arkansas....
Posted by jimhanson on Aug. 26 2011,3:39 pm
Libbie--Stone Magnon, you, and Irish responded to CC's comment about "most judges are liberals" by pointing out that ONE judge was not a liberal.As I said, what CC said is true--most judges and lawyers ARE libbies.
"Arguing for the sake of arguing"?
Nah--just injecting a little REALITY into the liberal dream world!
Posted by Common Citizen on Aug. 26 2011,9:09 pm
Serious. It's almost as if Lib, Irish, and Stoner all see the same doctor. 
Posted by Liberal on Aug. 26 2011,11:29 pm
Almost like CC had a few too many before posting and then had to wait for lapdog and the Jimmy to help him get his foot out of his mouth. Any word on that keyboard interlock yet?
Posted by Common Citizen on Aug. 27 2011,6:26 am
Not everyone can sit in front of their computer 24/7 like you Lib. Some people have to work in this world to pay for all of the social programs you support. 
Going fishing now with my son. We're leaving the computer at home if your wondering why I don't respond immediately to your posts. I use this time with my son to educate him on the evils of liberalism.
Posted by irisheyes on Aug. 27 2011,11:15 pm
(jimhanson @ Aug. 26 2011,3:39 pm)
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Libbie--Stone Magnon, you, and Irish responded to CC's comment about "most judges are liberals" by pointing out that ONE judge was not a liberal.
As I said, what CC said is true--most judges and lawyers ARE libbies.
As I said, what CC said is true--most judges and lawyers ARE libbies.
Most lawyers? It wasn't a discussion about political leanings of a trial lawyers association. It was one case, one judge, and CC blamed it all on the libs. But, if we change the subject to talk about tort reform and trial lawyers, glad you've got us covered there.
Posted by Common Citizen on Aug. 28 2011,9:43 pm
Well that is what I was inferring so deal with it. You don't seem to have a problem when a lib does it.Grab a tissue or a nipple. You'll feel better.
Posted by alcitizens on Aug. 29 2011,12:34 am
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Posted by jimhanson on Aug. 29 2011,3:57 pm
Irish QUOTE
But it's still the liberals fault, you people with all your facts and information, and more facts. Ugh, it's annoying. Can't you just recognize that it's always a liberals fault? Even when a conservative judge who was a prosecutor, appointed by a republican Governor, it's still the damn liberals.
Irish NOW says
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Most lawyers? It wasn't a discussion about political leanings of a trial lawyers association. It was one case, one judge, and CC blamed it all on the libs.
Just as YOU tried to blame it on conservatives. In typical libbie fashion, you take the exception to the rule, and apply it to ALL. Just pointing out that lawyers are some of the biggest contributors to the Donks.
And people wonder where all of these ill-considered laws come from?
Posted by Liberal on Aug. 29 2011,4:10 pm
He was being sarcastic, and even then he pointed out that he was referring to one particular judge. 
Posted by jimhanson on Aug. 29 2011,4:30 pm
Sarcastic?Far from trying to make a point about ONE judge, he was suggesting that ALL conservatives behaved this way.
I pointed out that MOST lawyers are libbies--they make their living prosecuting, defending, and interpreting the confusing avalanche of laws PROPOSED by libbies. Is this not true?
To insure that MORE of these worthless laws are created, they have become one of the largest donors to the Donks. Is this NOT true?
The public has a low opinion of lawyers--and an even lower opinion of Congress. Lawyers make up a high percentage of politicians. Is THIS not also true?
Coincidence?
Posted by irisheyes on Aug. 30 2011,5:49 am
(Common Citizen @ Aug. 28 2011,9:43 pm)
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Well that is what I was inferring so deal with it. You don't seem to have a problem when a lib does it.
Grab a tissue or a nipple. You'll feel better.
Grab a tissue or a nipple. You'll feel better.
See, now you're getting defensive (and maybe a tad rude). But why would you infer something that contradicts the subject? Unless there's a new definition of infer, it doesn't make any sense.
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That's your liberal judges and liberal court system for ya. Sheesh, which way do you want it?
Everybody knows most judges were lawyers and most lawyers are liberals. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out.
Everybody knows most judges were lawyers and most lawyers are liberals. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out.
I even included the emoticon, since as I'll soon explain to Jim, even a small (or sometimes HUGE emoticon holding a sign) can change the meaning of a statement.
Nope, I don't believe the inference thing. I'm betting this is one of those times you got called on being wrong. You can admit it, otherwise it just doesn't make any sense why'd you'd conclude that Judge Schwab handing down a light sentence is due to liberalism.
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Going fishing now with my son. We're leaving the computer at home if your wondering why I don't respond immediately to your posts. I use this time with my son to educate him on the evils of liberalism.
In an effort to be fair and balanced, you really should let me know where this fishing spot it so I can drop off some literature. In fact, if you see a dead fish with a DFL brochure stuffed in it, you'll know I was there before you.
Posted by irisheyes on Aug. 30 2011,6:04 am
(jimhanson @ Aug. 29 2011,3:57 pm)
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Irish
^ ^ ^ ^
Irish NOW says
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But it's still the liberals fault, you people with all your facts and information, and more facts. Ugh, it's annoying. Can't you just recognize that it's always a liberals fault? Even when a conservative judge who was a prosecutor, appointed by a republican Governor, it's still the damn liberals.
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^ ^ ^Irish NOW says
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Most lawyers? It wasn't a discussion about political leanings of a trial lawyers association. It was one case, one judge, and CC blamed it all on the libs.
Anyone who goes to the first page can see there is an emoticon at the end of the first paragraph. I find it hard to believe you could miss it, unless you were trying to miss it in order to misquote me. No, that can't be true. It can't!!
I'll have to assume there's something wrong with your monitor.
Now, read the first paragraph you quoted of mine, except with one of these at the end.
Edit: Nevermind, I'm going to add the emoticon above to your quote; however, I'll add three this time just to be sure it's clear.
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Just pointing out that lawyers are some of the biggest contributors to the Donks.
And, you tried to prove that by quoting something about a group that represents plaintiffs in civil cases. Seems like you're already trying to tip the scale.
You can't try to flip the lawyer thing into a bash the liberal issue, because it isn't. Many politicians, judges, or criminal/civil lawyers are conservative just as many civil attorneys for plaintiffs are liberal. Another example is many conservatives lately really love a former IRS attorney. She's fairly conservative (unless it involves her job with the IRS, her husbands business, or their family farm).
Posted by Ace Carlson on Aug. 30 2011,1:40 pm
How do we know he's a Republican? Or is it just an assumption because of his ex-wife and her involvement? Frankly, I would venture to guess his rulings have more to with genetics than anything
Posted by jimhanson on Aug. 30 2011,4:55 pm
Irish-- QUOTE
You can't try to flip the lawyer thing into a bash the liberal issue, because it isn't. Many politicians, judges, or criminal/civil lawyers are conservative just as many civil attorneys for plaintiffs are liberal.
Are you saying it is NOT true that the majority of lawyers are liberal?
If so, how is it that the American Trial Lawyers Assn--bar associations, and individual firms contribute mainly to the Donks?
Could it be that they can count on the Donks to provide more feel-good, anti-business, pro big government increased regulations?
Posted by Common Citizen on Aug. 30 2011,6:39 pm
The lib attorneys have set a presidence for the legal system in our country and most of the other attorneys that claim to be conservative especially at the local level, in a primarily lib community, will walk in lock step to protect their own interest.The only area I would surrender that theory to is the drug war as it pertains to MaryJane. Both political parties are guilty of enforcing the nonsensical laws addressing marijuana.
Legalize marijuana and regulate it like they do alcohol.
Posted by hymiebravo on Aug. 31 2011,7:51 am
(Common Citizen @ Aug. 27 2011,6:26 am)
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Not everyone can sit in front of their computer 24/7 like you Lib. Some people have to work in this world to pay for all of the social programs you support.
Going fishing now with my son. We're leaving the computer at home if your wondering why I don't respond immediately to your posts. I use this time with my son to educate him on the evils of liberalism.
Going fishing now with my son. We're leaving the computer at home if your wondering why I don't respond immediately to your posts. I use this time with my son to educate him on the evils of liberalism.
Do you really expect people to buy your B.S.?
Who do you think you're dealing with here the Albert Lea City Council? lol
Yea you just can't find the time time to post here.
This list says something different:
< http://www.albertlea.com/cgi-bin...tistics >
Posted by MADDOG on Aug. 31 2011,10:08 am
Looks like I have a long way to go to pass TTT and he's been dead for 3 years.
Posted by hairhertz on Aug. 31 2011,1:25 pm
Hey, I made the top 
ten, because of longevity, I suspect.
Posted by alcitizens on Aug. 31 2011,2:08 pm
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4. TameThaTane 6300
5. MADDOG 5674
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Posted by irisheyes on Sep. 07 2011,6:46 am
(jimhanson @ Aug. 30 2011,4:55 pm)
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Irish--
Are you saying it is NOT true that the majority of lawyers are liberal?
If so, how is it that the American Trial Lawyers Assn--bar associations, and individual firms contribute mainly to the Donks?
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You can't try to flip the lawyer thing into a bash the liberal issue, because it isn't. Many politicians, judges, or criminal/civil lawyers are conservative just as many civil attorneys for plaintiffs are liberal.
Are you saying it is NOT true that the majority of lawyers are liberal?
If so, how is it that the American Trial Lawyers Assn--bar associations, and individual firms contribute mainly to the Donks?
Trial lawyers Association? Yes, people who sue the rich (corporations, drug companies, doctors) are less likely to be republicans. When the doctor leaves a sponge in a waitress or factory worker, and the person nearly dies, the person representing the victim of negligence is more likely to be a liberal, and the person representing the rich to deny paying for their mistakes are more likely to be conservative.
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Could it be that they can count on the Donks to provide more feel-good, anti-business, pro big government increased regulations?
That's overly simplistic. One side is bad, the other is good is typical Brietbart/FNC talking points. The republicans love government regulations when they are pro-business and pro-rich. When they push for higher ethanol standards, put in tax loopholes so the corporations don't have to pay taxes conservatives love it.
Conservatives love regulations, when it favors them and their friends in business. They just don't like it when it favors the middle class. The consumer of those businesses, the patient, the insurance customer, or the environment/wildlife.
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The lib attorneys have set a presidence for the legal system in our country and most of the other attorneys that claim to be conservative especially at the local level, in a primarily lib community, will walk in lock step to protect their own interest.
On the second page of this topic I started to wonder if you've ever admitted that you're wrong. You went from blaming the light sentence on the libbies. Now you realize he's a conservative judge but he's doing this because it's a vast liberal conspiracy on the local level?
Wouldn't it just be easier to say you made a knee-jerk reaction to blame the libbies instead of spinning this into something it's not?
Posted by busybee on Sep. 16 2011,1:00 am
OMG...Can't the majority of you on this "discussion" forum care about more than your hang up dedication with "politics" and your political party's agenda? Why don't you CHOOSE to CARE about the "status quo" of citizens in your neighborhood, city, county, state, federal government who have SOMETHING MORE to tell you than...VOTE FOR ME and I PROMISE I will. give you "the taxpayer" this PROMISE because you're a conservative or a liberal???...
Posted by 2034 on Sep. 16 2011,10:31 am
(busybee @ Sep. 16 2011,1:00 am)
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OMG...Can't the majority of you on this "discussion" forum care about more than your hang up dedication with "politics" and your political party's agenda?
O m g,
How can they talk politics.
This forum is abusive.
Let's get back to the purpose of this forum.
To serve busy bee.
Posted by hymiebravo on Sep. 17 2011,6:35 am
(busybee @ Sep. 16 2011,1:00 am)
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OMG...Can't the majority of you on this "discussion" forum care about more than your hang up dedication with "politics" and your political party's agenda?
Why don't you CHOOSE to CARE about the "status quo" of citizens in your neighborhood, city, county, state, federal government who have SOMETHING MORE to tell you than...VOTE FOR ME and I PROMISE I will. give you "the taxpayer" this PROMISE because you're a conservative or a liberal???...
Why don't you CHOOSE to CARE about the "status quo" of citizens in your neighborhood, city, county, state, federal government who have SOMETHING MORE to tell you than...VOTE FOR ME and I PROMISE I will. give you "the taxpayer" this PROMISE because you're a conservative or a liberal???...
That is a good point, really.
Sometimes it's humorous how just about anything here gets back to the 2 party arguments, somehow.
Personally I think I tend to be more interested in the local issues. People have a much better shot at improving matters/ things locally then they do on a national or world level. IMO
Also in the past there was never an outlet like this to help in the cause for improvement. Or even for less serious matters as far as that goes.
It's too bad more people don't speak up.
Posted by Rosalind_Swenson on Sep. 17 2011,8:30 am
(hymiebravo @ Sep. 17 2011,6:35 am)
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Also in the past there was never an outlet like this to help in the cause for improvement. Or even for less serious matters as far as that goes.
It's too bad more people don't speak up.
It's too bad more people don't speak up.
I agree. I have been reading some of the old stuff posted on this forum and I see that a few people here used to attend, or maybe still do, alot of council meetings, and researched ALOT on happenings in the county. The Tiger HIlls thing inparticular, way before most people had even heard anything about that project. I was shocked to see how gung-ho some of the people here are to help create a better community. I think though that sometimes people burn out when it doesn't seem that all their hard work accomplishes anything. I think more of us need to get involved in trying to help fix things. I honestly don't know how to go about doing anything. Some suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I'll start going to council meetings, but beyond that I'm kind of clueless as to what I can do.
Posted by Stone-Magnon on Sep. 17 2011,10:10 am
^And THAT'S precisely why some want longer Mayor terms.They like that little bit of power they had and want it longer thank you.
Posted by MADDOG on Sep. 17 2011,7:21 pm
(Rosalind_Swenson @ Sep. 17 2011,8:30 am)
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(hymiebravo @ Sep. 17 2011,6:35 am)
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Also in the past there was never an outlet like this to help in the cause for improvement. Or even for less serious matters as far as that goes.
It's too bad more people don't speak up.
It's too bad more people don't speak up.
I agree. I have been reading some of the old stuff posted on this forum and I see that a few people here used to attend, or maybe still do, alot of council meetings, and researched ALOT on happenings in the county. The Tiger HIlls thing inparticular, way before most people had even heard anything about that project. I was shocked to see how gung-ho some of the people here are to help create a better community. I think though that sometimes people burn out when it doesn't seem that all their hard work accomplishes anything. I think more of us need to get involved in trying to help fix things. I honestly don't know how to go about doing anything. Some suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I'll start going to council meetings, but beyond that I'm kind of clueless as to what I can do.
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I honestly don't know how to go about doing anything. Some suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I'll start going to council meetings, but beyond that I'm kind of clueless as to what I can do.
That's a good start. Attend, watch, and listen. If something rings your bell or doesn't seem right, ask the right questions from the right people. Remember, they will all cover for each other and research, research, research.
Posted by busybee on Sep. 18 2011,12:41 am
2034 · Posted on Sep. 16 2011,10:31 QUOTE
O m g,
How can they talk politics.
This forum is abusive.
Let's get back to the purpose of this forum.
To serve busy bee.
How can they talk politics.
This forum is abusive.
Let's get back to the purpose of this forum.
To serve busy bee.
Awe...how sweet of you 2034!
I had no idea you cared so much about "serving" me!
Sorry to disappoint you tho. I can't think of anything that I "need."
Thanks so much for your genuine concern...I appreciate it!!
Posted by Stone-Magnon on Sep. 18 2011,4:46 am
I thought you needed a house, money and well, a life. 
Posted by busybee on Sep. 18 2011,11:00 am
Congratulations Stone! Once again you get the award of stupidity for believing you have and know the facts about me. 
I'll admit I'm a little curious if you create these "alleged facts about me" in your own mind or if you're just an idiot who trusts a few liars to tell you what you should believe about me?
Of course, I don't have an expectation of you to answer the above question because you aren't capable of doing that honestly since you are incapable of understanding or comprehending anything beyond you're ongoing obsession with choosing to be a victim of the illegal drug war against marijuanna.
Posted by busybee on Sep. 18 2011,11:13 am
hymiebravo · Posted on Sep. 17 2011,6:35 amQUOTE
That is a good point, really.
Thanks...but give it time...my point will be "turned against me..." lol
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Sometimes it's humorous how just about anything here gets back to the 2 party arguments, somehow.
Or about how awful it is for Stone Magon and all those who choose to be victims of breaking a law that they don't agree with...
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Personally I think I tend to be more interested in the local issues. People have a much better shot at improving matters/ things locally then they do on a national or world level. IMO
Certainly...if you can get past those who are dedicated to their own agenda to argue that their way of thinking is the only way to "fix" everything...
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Also in the past there was never an outlet like this to help in the cause for improvement. Or even for less serious matters as far as that goes.
It's too bad more people don't speak up.
It's too bad more people don't speak up.
Yea...too bad more people don't speak up...what's also too bad is that more people don't listen or ask questions instead of assuming to know everything...