Topic: Dr. Laura
started by: irisheyes
Posted by irisheyes on Aug. 12 2010,10:07 pm
I never did understand why anyone would call this woman for advice.
Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Aug. 12 2010,11:36 pm
OMG, not the N word, the world has come to an end, run for the hills, words are being spoken.You know how many times a day I hear that word thrown about like sayin' hello?
Why on earth anyone would let a word bother them is beyond me, too many uptight, self absorbed holier than thou, touchy feelie, wimped out wear my feelings on my shoulder people in this world. Grow some thick skin.
Posted by pantalonesverdes on Aug. 13 2010,12:42 pm
(Grinning_Dragon @ Aug. 13 2010,12:36 am)
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too many uptight, self absorbed holier than thou, touchy feelie, wimped out wear my feelings on my shoulder people in this world. Grow some thick skin.
Posted by irisheyes on Aug. 13 2010,5:43 pm
What crosses the line? Is it Dr. Laura, Grinning Dragon, or maybe Rush or Hannity can let us know when black people are whining too much and are being oversensitive.For example, I suppose I could sit here and tell you all how those damn Holocaust survivors have been milking sympathy for far too long. I mean, by 1958 or 59 they should've been over it and gotten on with their lives. Except for the dead ones, of course. But people die all the time, no sense in making a big deal out of it.
Of course, I'm just a white guy who's never had to deal with any of the persecution I wrote about above. Nevertheless, it sure is easy for me to diminish what other people have gone through their entire lives.
Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Aug. 13 2010,6:10 pm
I was not referring to black people whining, I am referring to uptight white folk who get all indignant and offended at the dumbest things and times and then whine about it.People who seem to get their knickers in a bunch, over nothing, and then yell out, "OMG thats racists, blah, blah, blah."
And you could sit there and tell about those Holocaust survivors milking it, no skin off my nose, if its your opinion, then so be it. After all there is NO RIGHT not to be offended.
Again, people now days just need to toughen up, and grow some thick skin, all of this political correctness crap is destroying everything. Death to political correctness.
Posted by irisheyes on Aug. 13 2010,6:54 pm
I don't think there's anything wrong with giving an opinion. People can express opinions on politics, race, religion, or whatever else, and I'm not in favor of political correctness or beating around the bush about it. But her advertisers have every right to pull their ads when they decide they don't want to associate with those opinions.Remember what happened to the Dixie Chicks? Freedom of Speech doesn't protect you when the fans decide they disagree with your opinion.
Posted by Glad I Left on Aug. 14 2010,7:49 am
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Remember what happened to the Dixie Chicks?
Was it really because of their comments or was it the fact that their music really did suck?
In any event, good riddance to bad rubbish!!
Posted by jimhanson on Aug. 14 2010,1:58 pm
Good Gawd, man, she QUOTED the black entertainers! She didn't use the word herself, she quoted OTHERS. Has it come to this, that you dare not quote OTHERS? Think about it--in quoting the black entertainers, she was condemning THEM for saying it.
WAY too Politically Correct! R. Lee Ermey says it best:
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Posted by irisheyes on Aug. 14 2010,3:34 pm
I hear people say the same thing here and there, but I'll be glad if it ruins her career either way. Not a fan of family values conservatives since most of them are the worst hypocrites.QUOTE
Good Gawd, man, she QUOTED the black entertainers!
So, I can call people names and when they get upset I'll just shrug my shoulders and say, "hey, SOMEONE out there said that, and I'm just quoting THEM?" I don't buy it, you can use insulting and derogatory words all you want, but when you get called on it don't back down and say "but someone else said it first." That doesn't even work in elementary school, but apparently it works for talk radio.
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Think about it--in quoting the black entertainers, she was condemning THEM for saying it.
Riiigghtt... What part of it was she condemning entertainers for saying it? I mean, was she defending AND condemning the use of the word.
Posted by jimhanson on Aug. 14 2010,3:52 pm
Is it NOT true that black entertainers regularly use the word? 
If you are offended by her quoting the black entertainers, take a tip from Bill Engvall--instead of "Here's your sign!"--"HERE'S YOUR BOX OF KLEENEX!"
Frankly, I'm with GD--I'm tired of people that are so "constantly outraged" that they have to make up NEW things to be "outraged" about.
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I hear people say the same thing here and there, but I'll be glad if it ruins her career either way. Not a fan of family values conservatives since most of them are the worst hypocrites.
You'll be GLAD if it "ruins her career"--even if she is innocent of any racial bias? And YOU say that SHE is hypocritical? 
"Here's your sign!"
Posted by busybee on Aug. 14 2010,4:01 pm
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Again, people now days just need to toughen up, and grow some thick skin, all of this political correctness crap is destroying everything. Death to political correctness.
Agreed...that some people need to toughen up, but NOT everyone.
I don't care what political agenda a person supports...to pretend that if more people in this country were thick skinned instead of speaking out in defense of oppression and harm by one citizen/group upon another, is ignorant.
There is no political correctness. There is only the truth or a lie.
Posted by irisheyes on Aug. 14 2010,4:37 pm
(jimhanson @ Aug. 14 2010,3:52 pm)
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Is it NOT true that black entertainers regularly use the word?
What about your claim that she condemned the use of the word by those same entertainers in that clip?
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If you are offended by her quoting the black entertainers, take a tip from Bill Engvall--instead of "Here's your sign!"--"HERE'S YOUR BOX OF KLEENEX!"
I'm not offended, I just don't like her, and I already told you why I don't like her.
This isn't political correctness, she can say whatever she wants. But other people have the right to not like what she says and change the station.
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You'll be GLAD if it "ruins her career"--even if she is innocent of any racial bias? And YOU say that SHE is hypocritical?
And YOU say that SHE is hypocritical?How is that hypocritical? Is there another definition of the word hypocritical that I'm not aware of?
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Frankly, I'm with GD--I'm tired of people that are so "constantly outraged" that they have to make up NEW things to be "outraged" about.
If you've seen any of the clips of tea party rallies, I'd say that liberals don't have a monopoly on being constantly outraged. I think conservatives have really perfected that emotion.
Rush & O'Reilly used to be good enough, but now they've passed the torch to a guy who cries, dumps gasoline on people, and tells the audience how the progressives are coming to slaughter them. Common guys, conservatives love outrage!
Posted by jimhanson on Aug. 14 2010,5:04 pm
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What about your claim that she condemned the use of the word by those same entertainers in that clip?
Did she not TWICE point out the hypocrisy of blacks being "outraged" by the word--all the while using it themselves? QUOTE
How is that hypocritical? Is there another definition of the word hypocritical that I'm not aware of?
Not at all--the definition of hypocrite hasn't changed. QUOTE
hyp·o·crite /ˈhɪpəkrɪt/ [hip-uh-krit] –noun
1. a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, esp. a person whose actions belie stated beliefs.
2. a person who feigns some desirable or publicly approved attitude, esp. one whose private life, opinions, or statements belie his or her public statements.
1. a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, esp. a person whose actions belie stated beliefs.
2. a person who feigns some desirable or publicly approved attitude, esp. one whose private life, opinions, or statements belie his or her public statements.
You condemn Dr. Laura for pointing out that black entertainers use the "N-word"--you are "outraged" that she did so--
YET--you "Hope either way that her career is ruined"--even though she showed no racial bias. I would say that in finding outrage that Dr. Laura caused harm to others, while expressing that same wish YOURSELF--it meets the definition of hypocrisy.
Maybe it would be good if everybody went back and watched Blazing Saddles. Mel Brooks lampooned racism by "using it to his advantage" in the movie. Predictably, the PC crowd didn't get it--and they were once again "outraged"--not picking up on the fact that Brooks was making fun of racists. There are dozens of references in the movie. null< My Webpage >
Enjoy it and lighten up!
Posted by Liberal on Aug. 14 2010,6:05 pm
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She didn't use the word herself, she quoted OTHERS. Has it come to this, that you dare not quote OTHERS?
Who was she quoting?
Posted by OEF_Soldier on Aug. 14 2010,6:34 pm
(Liberal @ Aug. 14 2010,6:05 pm)
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Who was she quoting?
Well she was quoting Chris Rock for one.
Chris Rock says it best in the very first minute of his routine tho so pay close attention to the opening words.
Posted by Liberal on Aug. 14 2010,6:43 pm
I didn't hear the Dr. Laura quote? Do you know what the word "quote" means?
Posted by OEF_Soldier on Aug. 14 2010,6:56 pm
(Liberal @ Aug. 14 2010,6:05 pm)
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Who was she quoting?
You asked and I gave you your answer.
If you really wish to actually HEAR her though you can find it at Media Matters that paragon of all things newsworthy.
It's really too bad that she is right and that she is catching so much flak for stating the facts.
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SCHLESSINGER: Black guys use it all the time. Turn on HBO, listen to a black comic, and all you hear is nigger, nigger, nigger.
Posted by alcitizens on Aug. 14 2010,9:08 pm
What do you call a white person that acts like a black rapper? A Wigger.. 
Posted by irisheyes on Aug. 14 2010,11:19 pm
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Did she not TWICE point out the hypocrisy of blacks being "outraged" by the word--all the while using it themselves?
Sure, but that's just saying it's a double standard, you claimed she condemned the use of the word by entertainers. "It depends how it's said..." That doesn't sound like it rises to the level of condemnation to me.
You started using the words condemn & outrage a lot in this thread. Maybe YOU are taking this too seriously.
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You condemn Dr. Laura for pointing out that black entertainers use the "N-word"--you are "outraged" that she did so
Where did I CONDEMN her for that? I said I don't like her, and yes, I hope her show fails. But, I don't have to like everyone and hope they do well. On the contrary, I've repeatedly said she has a right to her opinion or say whatever she wants.
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Maybe it would be good if everybody went back and watched Blazing Saddles.
Yeah, I rented it a few years after you mentioned it on.
Posted by Liberal on Aug. 15 2010,2:12 pm
It's got some pretty offensive language, but Randall reminds me of the cons. Posted by jimhanson on Aug. 15 2010,2:42 pm
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Sure, but that's just saying it's a double standard, you claimed she condemned the use of the word by entertainers.
She mocked their hypocrisy--I would call that a condemnation. Example: QUOTE
mock (mɒk)
— vb (when intr, often foll by at )
1. to behave with scorn or contempt (towards); show ridicule (for)
2. ( tr ) to imitate, esp in fun; mimic
3. ( tr ) to deceive, disappoint, or delude
4. ( tr ) to defy or frustrate: the team mocked the visitors' attempt to score
— vb (when intr, often foll by at )
1. to behave with scorn or contempt (towards); show ridicule (for)
2. ( tr ) to imitate, esp in fun; mimic
3. ( tr ) to deceive, disappoint, or delude
4. ( tr ) to defy or frustrate: the team mocked the visitors' attempt to score
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Where did I CONDEMN her for that? I said I don't like her, and yes, I hope her show fails.
You went beyond "don't like" with QUOTE
"Hope either way that her career is ruined"--
She didn't show any racial bias--only pointing out that blacks use the word all the time--and for that, you want her "Ruined"?
She pointed out to the caller and to the listening audience the hypocrisy of allowing SOME people to use the word, but not others.
Personally, I'm really tired of the "elite class" telling us what words are socially acceptable and which are not. I don't use the word myself, but I'm really tired of "words that can't be said"--"the N word", "the B word", etc.
Where's George Carlin when we need him?
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Posted by Liberal on Aug. 15 2010,2:54 pm
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You went beyond "don't like" with
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"Hope either way that her career is ruined"--
But the question was "Where did (he) "CONDEMN" her?"
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Personally, I'm really tired of the "elite class" telling us what words are socially acceptable and which are not. I don't use the word myself, but I'm really tired of "words that can't be said"--"the N word",
So take the word back.
Posted by jimhanson on Aug. 15 2010,3:10 pm
JIM QUOTE
You condemn Dr. Laura for pointing out that black entertainers use the "N-word"--you are "outraged" that she did so
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Where did I CONDEMN her for that?
JIM
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You went beyond "don't like" with "Hope either way that her career is ruined"--
Liberal
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But the question was "Where did (he) "CONDEMN" her?"
Now that we've established who said WHAT--
Here's the definition of "condemn". I would say that the statement "I hope her career is ruined" "expresses an unfavorable or adverse judgement on; and indicates strong disapproval, censure." I also think the statement amounts to a "pronouncement to be guilty".
The use of the word "condemn" is certainly correct and appropriate.
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con·demn /kənˈdɛm/ –verb (used with object)
1. to express an unfavorable or adverse judgment on; indicate strong disapproval of; censure.
2. to pronounce to be guilty; sentence to punishment: to condemn a murderer to life imprisonment.
3. to give grounds or reason for convicting or censuring: His acts condemn him.
4. to judge or pronounce to be unfit for use or service: to condemn an old building.
5. U.S. Law . to acquire ownership of for a public purpose, under the right of eminent domain: The city condemned the property.
6. to force into a specific state or activity: His lack of education condemned him to a life of menial Jobs.
7. to declare incurable.
1. to express an unfavorable or adverse judgment on; indicate strong disapproval of; censure.
2. to pronounce to be guilty; sentence to punishment: to condemn a murderer to life imprisonment.
3. to give grounds or reason for convicting or censuring: His acts condemn him.
4. to judge or pronounce to be unfit for use or service: to condemn an old building.
5. U.S. Law . to acquire ownership of for a public purpose, under the right of eminent domain: The city condemned the property.
6. to force into a specific state or activity: His lack of education condemned him to a life of menial Jobs.
7. to declare incurable.
I can't resist one final tweak--see definition #7 above. That would "condemn" you as being an "incurable" liberal!
Posted by Liberal on Aug. 15 2010,3:58 pm
Because he doesn't like her has nothing to do with condeming her recent statement. Where did he condemn the comment like you claim.
Posted by jimhanson on Aug. 15 2010,4:09 pm
There's that comprehension problem of yours again. I'll post it for you again QUOTE
I would say that the statement "I hope her career is ruined" "expresses an unfavorable or adverse judgement on; and indicates strong disapproval, censure." I also think the statement amounts to a "pronouncement to be guilty".
See how the BOLD part ties in with the definition of "condemn" parts in italics?
Since the world of the liberal is inverted, perhaps it would help if I inverted the definition. If I said "Give me an example of an expression of an unfavorable or adverse judgement, expressing strong disapproval and censure"--I might say "I hope her career is ruined!"
Posted by Liberal on Aug. 15 2010,10:18 pm
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There's that comprehension problem of yours again. I'll post it for you again
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I would say that the statement "I hope her career is ruined" "expresses an unfavorable or adverse judgement on; and indicates strong disapproval, censure." I also think the statement amounts to a "pronouncement to be guilty".
See how the BOLD part ties in with the definition of "condemn" parts in italics?
So if you want someone fired that means you condemn everything they say?
At best your definition would prove that he condemns her, not what she says.If you can't understand that, find an educated conservative to explain it to you. (educated conservative...
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Posted by City Worker on Aug. 16 2010,1:04 am
Jim Hanson ,Did you miss Liberal riding your A$$ when you took a long break from posting on this form? Now your back thirsty for more abuse. He's just like a snake in the grass waiting for you so he can strike.
Posted by Liberal on Aug. 16 2010,10:29 am
Do I have to call Nolander to give you another lesson in manners?
Posted by scary on Aug. 16 2010,10:40 am
(Liberal @ Aug. 16 2010,10:29 am)
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Do I have to call Nolander to give you another lesson in manners?
Posted by jimhanson on Aug. 16 2010,11:59 am
(City Worker @ Aug. 16 2010,1:04 am)
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Jim Hanson ,
Did you miss Liberal riding your A$$ when you took a long break from posting on this form? Now your back thirsty for more abuse. He's just like a snake in the grass waiting for you so he can strike.
Did you miss Liberal riding your A$$ when you took a long break from posting on this form? Now your back thirsty for more abuse. He's just like a snake in the grass waiting for you so he can strike.
Nah--Liberal is just another liberal, with an upside-down view of reality.
There is no sense arguing with a libbie--in their attempt to defend the indefensible, they just wander further and further into the weeds.
"You can lead a libbie to knowledge, but you can't make him THINK."
You'll never change their minds--like anyone with a mental problem, they have to WANT to change!
After a while, you realize that they are like wrestling with a pig--that they get down in the mud and argue just because they LIKE it.
You'll never change their minds--after all, if they thought RATIONALLY, they wouldn't BE libbies, would they? Only age, maturity, and getting a job will change them.
Like watching the antics of cats pretending to be tigers, they sure are fun to laugh at, though!
All in good fun.
Posted by alcitizens on Aug. 16 2010,12:19 pm
(City Worker @ Aug. 16 2010,1:04 am)
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Jim Hanson ,
Did you miss Liberal riding your A$$ when you took a long break from posting on this form? Now your back thirsty for more abuse. He's just like a snake in the grass waiting for you so he can strike.
Did you miss Liberal riding your A$$ when you took a long break from posting on this form? Now your back thirsty for more abuse. He's just like a snake in the grass waiting for you so he can strike.
People got so sick of Jim Hanson's Ernie Gann bullcrap that they wouldn't even read it, kind of like when he post's here..
He's more bull than the Trib Forum could even put up with. You don't see him posting his crap anymore at the Trib, do ya? He was part of the "You called me naughty names" Club, then they would report you to Trib Staff. Frikin Cry Baby is what he is..
Posted by jimhanson on Aug. 16 2010,12:25 pm
Alki--I never complained about a poster to the Tribune. Laughing at the lefties was too much fun! Why would I want something a leftie fool said removed? Posting at the Trib? Is ANYBODY posting over there?
They wanted to kill the Forum over there--and they have succeeded. Just taking it down was not an option--it cost Belden his job. They just made it so unpopular that nobody goes there any more. If they WANTED to kill it--that was SMART!
Posted by Liberal on Aug. 17 2010,10:34 pm
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Los Angeles, California (CNN) -- Embattled radio talk show host Dr. Laura Schlessinger announced Tuesday she will not renew her contract that is up at the end of the year, telling CNN's "Larry King Live" she wants to "regain my First Amendment rights."
Schlessinger, 63, has been under fire for using the n-word repeatedly during an on-air conversation with a caller last week.
In announcing her decision "not to do radio anymore" after being in the business for more than 30 years, Schlessinger said, "I want to be able to say what's on my mind and in my heart and what I think is helpful and useful without somebody getting angry or some special-interest group deciding this is a time to silence a voice of dissent."
National furor erupted when Schlessinger used the n-word 11 times in five minutes during a call August 10 with an African-American caller who was seeking advice on how to deal with racist comments from her white husband's friends and relatives. The conversation evolved into a discussion on whether it's appropriate to ever use the word, with Schlessinger arguing it's used on HBO and by black comedians.
Ha!
Posted by jimhanson on Aug. 18 2010,11:19 am
Dr. Laura isn't the only one bailing out of politics. Here are Donks doing a "Steven Slater". The only thing different? They didn't take the beer with them! null[URL=]My Webpage[/URL]
Posted by Santorini on Aug. 18 2010,11:30 am
(irisheyes @ Aug. 13 2010,5:43 pm)
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What crosses the line? Is it Dr. Laura, Grinning Dragon, or maybe Rush or Hannity can let us know when black people are whining too much and are being oversensitive.
For example, I suppose I could sit here and tell you all how those damn Holocaust survivors have been milking sympathy for far too long. I mean, by 1958 or 59 they should've been over it and gotten on with their lives. Except for the dead ones, of course. But people die all the time, no sense in making a big deal out of it.
Of course, I'm just a white guy who's never had to deal with any of the persecution I wrote about above. Nevertheless, it sure is easy for me to diminish what other people have gone through their entire lives.
For example, I suppose I could sit here and tell you all how those damn Holocaust survivors have been milking sympathy for far too long. I mean, by 1958 or 59 they should've been over it and gotten on with their lives. Except for the dead ones, of course. But people die all the time, no sense in making a big deal out of it.
Of course, I'm just a white guy who's never had to deal with any of the persecution I wrote about above. Nevertheless, it sure is easy for me to diminish what other people have gone through their entire lives.
"WE SHALL OVER COME..WE SHALL OVER COME SOME DAY"
Posted by Liberal on Aug. 18 2010,11:34 am
Where did that come from? What does your GOP fund raising video have to do with any of this?Doctor Laura isn't "bailing out of politics", she's bailing out of the radio business. And the people in the video were not "bailing out of politics" they're running for office, or re-election.
Posted by jimhanson on Aug. 18 2010,1:36 pm
By your own account, she is "bailing out" of the radio business--just as O'Reilly did.In the video, the Donks up for re-election are also "bailing" on Obummer--putting distance between him and their campaigns.
I'm sorry, I forgot that Donks were humor-impaired!
Posted by denovo on Aug. 18 2010,3:04 pm
Oh...Jim is Ernie Gann?; that makes sense; damn, Jim's a good writer; why the hell doesn't he get paid to write for the tribune?; in terms of laura schlessinger, she was raised in the presence of some of the most overt and outwardly racist language in Brooklyn; in other words n$$$$$ was a household term in her neighborhood presumably; she herself was a target from both sides; the italians hated k$$$$ and the jews hated w$$$ and both probably privately hated n$$$$$$$; i speak from experience; she might have planned the whole thing; i sure hadn't even heard of her (and i consider myself pretty media savy) until this happened and for god's sake, i've actually been on her website now; it all continues to work out just fine for her and everyone like her; she's an animal like the rest of us and fundamentally it's all about money and that was about the best ad campaign money didn't have to buy; i realize it might have been spontaneous, but trust me, it's been in the works for years; she speaks like a racist behind closed doors, just like you perhaps!; i must say, i have more respect for larry king after seeing the interview last night; clearly, his heart is bigger than hers and for record, she's not even that intelligent; she dug a hole for herself in that interview that revealed her true colors, she's a spoiled resentful person, who feels comfortable feeling sorry for herself (let me just blow your steam maddog "just like you denovo" - give me a break douche bag, you don't even me)
Posted by denovo on Aug. 18 2010,3:05 pm
***know the thread's about laura schlessinger not me ya c$$$$!
Posted by denovo on Aug. 18 2010,3:12 pm
you don't think larry's ratings were through the roof for that interview; it's all absurd; WAKE UP!