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Topic: Sheriff's campaign
started by: Bluehosta

Posted by Bluehosta on Aug. 11 2010,11:28 am

Go ask if you don't believe it, but on Tuesday night of the fair, Harig and his Deputy gave the employees at the beer garden his re=elect Harig t-shirts and told them they had to wear them while working in the beer garden. Fair board members noticed it and asked the employees, and told Harig he couldn't do that. Maybe he should have prisoners wear his t-hirts to court. :rofl:

Posted by gijoeman on Aug. 11 2010,12:37 pm

Jabba the bowl-cut fatboy strikes again. Surprised his right hand man Corey Farris isn't involved. Time to boot Sheriff Heretic.

Posted by countryboy on Aug. 11 2010,1:27 pm

(gijoeman @ Aug. 11 2010,12:37 pm)

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Jabba the bowl-cut fatboy strikes again. Surprised his right hand man Corey Farris isn't involved. Time to boot Sheriff Heretic.

He was helping, keep the taps flowing. I was in line to get a drink for a short time waiting my turn and Cory walks up and is served immediately. I asked the bar tender what gave and his comment was "He's a cop". Bulchnit on that I say!

Posted by alalum on Aug. 11 2010,5:04 pm

I did go ask. One person who happens to run the beer garden wanted to wear a shirt. One of the candidates complained about it and he took it off. Funny how when this same person wore a Bill V shirt last election nobody said anything. Funny how one person turned into all employees. Really Blue Hosta and others you need to get your facts straight before you go spewing false facts

Posted by Bluehosta on Aug. 11 2010,8:28 pm

Well there is a beer garden, it was Tuesday, the Sheriff took them there, they were worn, the fairboard put a stop to it. We differ on number and desire. Bill V. isn't running this time.

Posted by alalum on Aug. 11 2010,9:03 pm

I know that Bill isn't running. I just think it is funny that the same guy wore a Bill V shirt last time and you had no problem with it. Now he wears a Harig shirt and you are upset. Like I said before you can campaign for whomever you wish, but try doing it in a fair way or you just look small

Posted by alcitizens on Aug. 11 2010,9:12 pm

(alalum @ Aug. 11 2010,9:03 pm)

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Small people like yourself are usually the first people to spout off stupid propaganda in a stupid bid to try and save their suck hole position that could be lost if Harig loses NOVEMBER 2nd.. You've got alot a work ahead of ya.. Good Luck

Posted by MADDOG on Aug. 11 2010,11:14 pm

(alalum @ Aug. 11 2010,9:03 pm)

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Like I said before you can campaign for whomever you wish, but try doing it in a fair way or you just look small

I don't know which of you to believe, but that was good.

Posted by hairhertz on Aug. 12 2010,9:07 am

Yup, play fair, the sheriff does.

Posted by City Worker on Aug. 13 2010,1:05 am

Maybe Sheriff Harig was giving free rides home to the drunks. :rofl:

Posted by gijoeman on Aug. 13 2010,1:25 am

Naw

Posted by City Worker on Aug. 13 2010,2:36 am

Shame on you Willy B. I see you or the Mods edited your post. :clap:

Posted by busybee on Aug. 14 2010,2:51 pm

alalum...Posted on Aug. 11 2010,9:03 pm

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I know that Bill isn't running. I just think it is funny that the same guy wore a Bill V shirt last time and you had no problem with it. Now he wears a Harig shirt and you are upset.

How do you know if Alcitizens didn't have a problem with the same guy wearing a Bill V shirt last time and this time has a problem because it's a Harig shirt?

Have you known each other that long? :dunno:

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Like I said before you can campaign for whomever you wish, but try doing it in a fair way or you just look small

What is fair?

I've been told since being young to believe that, "life isn't fair" and I always thought that applied to everyone.

I think it's more than fair for people to have the freedom to write about what they witnessed or heard about the current Sheriff or his opponent, positive or negative.

Posted by busybee on Aug. 14 2010,3:43 pm

City Worker...Posted on Aug. 13 2010,2:36 am

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Shame on you Willy B. I see you or the Mods edited your post. :clap:

Why do so many on here insist that Gijoeman is Willy B.?

Does anyone have the FACTS to prove this claim? I know I asked this before when the last poster, I think it was Paul Harvey, was accused of being Willy B.

First of all, I don't think Liberal/Chad would ever share the private identity of any members here, including to the mods, no matter who it is/was.

Maybe I have too much faith in my belief about this forum, but without the facts, how can anyone claim to know who another is or judge and condemn how they live their life?

Posted by City Worker on Aug. 16 2010,1:21 am

There posting style and wording is the same. Liberal can tell by there IP address also. Not who the person is , but if it's the same old IP address the person keeps using and changes there screen name or names.

Posted by busybee on Aug. 19 2010,3:07 am

What are you implying about Liberal?

Seems like you are claiming that he informed a person, certain people or maybe everyone on here of Willy B.'s identity and his user names.

It seems you are accusing Liberal of doing this to Gijoeman, not once, but every time there's a user name change.

Where does Liberal publicize this information about people's real identity who post on here? :dunno:

Posted by City Worker on Aug. 19 2010,5:14 am

Posted by Alfy Packer on Aug. 19 2010,5:01 pm

Who is Willy B? Who is minnow? Who is Paul Harvey? Who is Tame The Tane? Most don't need a score sheet to tell who is on first, just a little history reading the posts, themes, topics and styles tell a lot about who is posting. If you are a person of public interest, it is hard to hide from your public.

Posted by hairhertz on Aug. 20 2010,10:04 am

Anyway, back to the topic of the thread: what's happening on the campaign front since the fair ended?

Posted by gijoeman on Aug. 20 2010,11:49 am

Anyway, back to the truth, you people are dumb as a sack of rocks.

Posted by alcitizens on Aug. 20 2010,11:52 am

(gijoeman @ Aug. 20 2010,11:49 am)

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Anyway, back to the truth, you people are dumb as a sack of rocks.

Do you mean a sack in the mouth of Jim Hanson? :rofl:

I wonder if Harig had fun at Sturgis?

Posted by Liberal on Aug. 20 2010,12:01 pm

Isn't it a sack of hammers, or a box of rocks?

Posted by hairhertz on Aug. 20 2010,3:29 pm

What bike did he ride/trailer to Sturgis?

Posted by alcitizens on Aug. 20 2010,4:26 pm

I wonder how many Harley's he owns since he has purchased one, and confiscated one at the Sherriff's Department.. :dunno:

Posted by allergic to bogus on Aug. 21 2010,1:43 am

Sounds like it adds up to two...

Posted by allergic to bogus on Aug. 21 2010,1:45 am

Who really cares anyway? I just want to know that who ever is elected sheriff, he takes his job seriously, doesn't play the good old boy game, busts dealers, drunks on the road, wife beaters, child molesters and officials who break the law.

Posted by hairhertz on Aug. 21 2010,12:57 pm

So who are you supporting in the next election?

Posted by busybee on Aug. 21 2010,6:54 pm

allergic to bogus · Posted on Aug. 21 2010,1:45 am

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Posted by allergic to bogus on Aug. 22 2010,4:39 am

Honestly, I haven't decided yet. have a few friends that work for Law enforcement. Talked to four of them, 2 were for Harig and 2 were for Kindler. I am still researching...

Posted by jrhanson_75 on Aug. 22 2010,10:32 pm

(gijoeman @ Aug. 20 2010,11:49 am)

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Anyway, back to the truth, you people are dumb as a sack of rocks.

That made me Laugh! :rofl:

Posted by ICU812 on Aug. 31 2010,10:55 am

About the one minute mark.

Posted by OEF_Soldier on Aug. 31 2010,12:26 pm

LAWN Enforcement :rofl:

Posted by This is my real name on Aug. 31 2010,3:26 pm

My neighbor has been mowing his lawn onto our driveway and into the street. Maybe I should call this "lawn enforcement" department and have them take care of it.

Posted by MADDOG on Aug. 31 2010,5:35 pm

(This is my real name @ Aug. 31 2010,3:26 pm)

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My neighbor has been mowing his lawn onto our driveway and into the street. Maybe I should call this "lawn enforcement" department and have them take care of it.

Give your neighbor this.

< Leave it on the Lawn >

Posted by pantalonesverdes on Oct. 01 2010,7:13 pm

< http://www.albertleatribune.com/2010/10/01/union-endorses-kindler/ >

Union endorses Kindler for sheriff
Published 1:54pm Friday, October 1, 2010

The union that represents the area’s officers of the law has endorsed challenger Bob Kindler in the race for Freeborn County sheriff.

The Minnesota Teamsters Public and Law Enforcement Employees Union Local 320 represents Freeborn County Sheriff’s Office correction officers, licensed patrol deputies and jail sergeants. It also represents Albert Lea Police Department officers and dispatchers.

Members tallied the ballots on Thursday.

Kindler, a detective/supervisor for the Freeborn County Sheriff’s Office, is running against second-term incumbent Sheriff Mark Harig.

Ryan Merkouris of the Albert Lea Police Department credited Kindler’s experience on “all aspects of the job” and the respect Kindler has gained from his fellow co-workers for the endorsement.

“With his education and experience overall, he’s the best candidate to run the Freeborn County Sheriff’s Office for the next four years,” said Merkouris, who ran in the race but was eliminated in the primary election.

Merkouris is the union steward for the Albert Lea Police Department.

“It just goes to show that with the people that work for or with him, shows that there’s change needed within the Sheriff’s Office and he’s the one who’s best fit to do best job out of both candidates,” Merkouris added.

The Tribune is contacting Harig and Kindler for comments.

The union is slated to certify the results on Monday

Posted by alcitizens on Oct. 01 2010,8:18 pm

Nothing against Harig, he just sucks----- the money out of the taxpayer..
LOOOSER!! :car:

Posted by badboy2 on Oct. 01 2010,8:38 pm

I wonder what the Sheriff will say to this?? Looks like he has no backing of his team members in the law enforcement arena..My guess is change is coming!!

Posted by hymiebravo on Oct. 02 2010,7:33 am

Yep and then everyone will have to suck up to Kindler. He'll have his favorites, and some will get along with him better than others.

People who think that all that sucking up and favoritism are unique to the current situation are blissfully ignorant.

Posted by hymiebravo on Oct. 02 2010,7:40 am

I think that stat about the increase in staff, at the sheriff's department, that was posted here a while back is quite remarkable. What was it 12 people in the 70's? Compared to what is it now?

BTW: How is the investigation into the missing money situation going?

What was it 10's of thousand annually for several years from some sort of petty cash type reserve?

Which I guess at that rate it would cease to be petty pretty quick. lol

Where are the auditors?

Posted by kinnickhawk on Oct. 02 2010,10:41 am

Its time for Harig to ride his pony out of this county.

Posted by hairhertz on Oct. 02 2010,12:27 pm

Ah, a fine image....Jabba aboard his hog riding off into the sunset.

Posted by Bluehosta on Oct. 03 2010,3:06 pm

Harig won't leave us without the legacy of the biggest County Sheriff's Office outside the metro area. And has sold out our local government and made us completely dependent on Federal Grants and Funding. Freeborn County is going to skip the dealing with the bad economy stage and go directly to Federal Welfare.

Posted by hairhertz on Oct. 03 2010,4:05 pm

Gotta cover those missing funds from process serving.

Posted by MADDOG on Oct. 03 2010,5:45 pm

(Bluehosta @ Oct. 03 2010,3:06 pm)

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sold out our local government and made us completely dependent on Federal Grants and Funding.

I'd say that Gabe with the help of his three henchmen are the ones that sold us out. They are the ones who gave Harig the penal colony.

Posted by Bluehosta on Oct. 04 2010,7:22 am

(MADDOG @ Oct. 03 2010,5:45 pm)

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(Bluehosta @ Oct. 03 2010,3:06 pm)

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sold out our local government and made us completely dependent on Federal Grants and Funding.

I'd say that Gabe with the help of his three henchmen are the ones that sold us out. They are the ones who gave Harig the penal colony.

I know what you are saying, but I didn't know "Gabe". And responsibility is what you take when you are in charge. I don't mean this sarcasticly, but blaming Gabe is like blaming your parents for your children.

Posted by kinnickhawk on Oct. 04 2010,9:47 am

Well when Harig loses to Bob maybe bob will hire him to be the LAWN enforcer of Freeborn County with his side kick Gene Arnold.

Posted by pantalonesverdes on Oct. 07 2010,12:26 pm

< http://www.albertleatribune.com/2010...e-tally >

Harig: Why won’t union share vote tally?
Published 9:27am Thursday, October 7, 2010

Union says it only shares the percentages from endorsement

Freeborn County Sheriff Mark Harig questioned the legitimacy of a union endorsement for his opponent because the vote tally has not been divulged.

“I’d like to know the breakdown myself, because personally I know people who didn’t send the ballot back in,” Harig said.

And he said he is still waiting to officially hear from union representatives that local law enforcement officials have decided to throw their support behind opponent Bob Kindler in the sheriff’s race.

Mark Harig“I saw Mike Golan yesterday, and he did not talk about it at all,” Harig said on Tuesday.

Golan is the business agent for the Minnesota Teamsters Public and Law Enforcement Employees Union Local 320, which represents Freeborn County Sheriff’s Office correction officers, licensed patrol deputies and jail sergeants and Albert Lea Police Department officers and dispatchers.

Golan said on Wednesday that he had personally not contacted Harig but said he had spoken with a jail administrator here in Freeborn County and was confident that Harig was made aware of the announcement.

Golan also confirmed that the union chose to endorse Kindler in the race for Freeborn County sheriff and the votes were submitted for certification on Monday.

Golan said it was a 4-to-1 ratio that the union chose to back Kindler, meaning that out of every five people who voted, four of the votes were for Kindler. Members of the Local 320 tallied the ballots on Sept. 30.

Golan said all 78 members of the union’s five departments were sent ballots but said he did not have the number of ballots tallied and actual vote count, nor is this information they release to the public. He said they share percentages.

Harig said the first time he’d heard that the endorsement had gone to Kindler was when he received a call Friday from the Albert Lea Tribune. He cast doubt on the vote because, “while every employee in the Law Enforcement Center is a citizen, no one from Albert Lea police has ever been privy to union negotiations or endorsement decisions within the Sheriff’s Office.”

Bob Kindler“I believe that this was strictly a political tactic to try and control a union endorsement which resulted in many of the members to not even submit ballots,” said Harig. “This has nothing to do with the Police Department. We have five different Teamsters unions here, and each are separate.”

In response to this, Golan said, “We invited all Teamster members who had anything to do with law enforcement in city of Albert Lea and the Freeborn County Sheriff’s Office to participate. These were groups who our members in sheriff’s department themselves also thought should be involved.”

Harig, meanwhile, had been in contract negotiations with the Teamsters. He said he felt he was targeted during one negotiation meeting for patrolmen last spring.

“Golan advised that he would be organizing a candidate forum and that the Teamsters had the power to influence and sway an election process,” Harig said. “I took this personally offensive because I was the only elected official in the negotiation process so I felt this message was personally targeting me.”

Golan said the union endorsement was not a personal attack on Harig.

“It was being polite to inform him we are politically active and to let him know we would be setting up these and extending an interview to him.”

Golan confirmed this was the first time the local union had chosen to endorse a candidate, as over the past three to four years, Sheriff’s Office personnel have switched from the Law Enforcement Labor Union to the Teamsters. He said he’s had the contract with the Albert Lea Police Department for more than 10 years.

Harig noted Kindler has never been a union member.

“He has never been part of a labor contract negotiation. He has no experience in managing grievances and his only participation in union matters may have been to forward a grievance from a union member for someone else to address.”

Kindler is a detective and supervisor for the Freeborn County Sheriff’s Office.

“It is quite an honor to be judged by your peers as the candidate they trust to lead the Freeborn County Sheriff’s Office,” said Kindler. “To the best of my knowledge, this is the first time in the history of Freeborn County that the union representing the law enforcement community has endorsed a candidate for sheriff. That demonstrates not only the importance of this election but also gives union members a voice on the future direction of the Sheriff’s Office.”

Kindler said that he is not currently a union member.

“I was a union member for a very short time with the Austin Police Department, and that’s not the same union,” he said. “Here in Freeborn County, the patrolmen didn’t form the union until around 1997, and I was already a detective supervisor by then, so I was exempt from the patrolman’s union.”

Harig also stated that last spring when he approached Kindler about his career expectations — to schedule appropriate future training for Kindler — that he was not told about Kindler’s plans to run for office.

“About a month later he announced his candidacy for sheriff. He then advised that he had been planning his campaign strategy for two years,” Harig said.

“The majority of his education he has listed are trainings that I have sent him to.”

Kindler explained that the question was posed to him after someone had retired and he applied to be trained as a backup for the open position. He said he was asked how long he wanted to stay with the Freeborn County Sheriff’s Office.

“At the time, I responded I had no intentions of leaving, but if the opportunity presented itself I might go after that opportunity,” said Kindler.

Golan said the union is inviting public to a meet Kindler at the Moose Lodge on Oct. 18 from 5:30 to 7:30 p.m.

Posted by Bluehosta on Oct. 07 2010,12:51 pm

Maybe I'm reading into this, but it appears that Sheriff Harig, wants you to disclose if you are going to run against him before he gives you appropriate and or required education??? As a voter, I don't like the incumbant thinking he can minipulate and use the system to further his position, and not let me have valid canidates. :rockon:

Posted by gijoeman on Oct. 07 2010,3:04 pm

They manipulated 10's of thousands of dollars out of the process servers hands into their hands as in missing. Did you mention manipulation? Now add to that you give the same people the ability to seize for forfeiture items without even charging you with anything. That money goes missing very easily as well.

And the things that don't go missing get sold to the Sheriff's brother for literally pennies on the dollar.

That's your drug war you have visited upon us. A drug war in which you no longer respect our civil rights.

Posted by Liberal on Oct. 07 2010,6:31 pm

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“Golan advised that he would be organizing a candidate forum and that the Teamsters had the power to influence and sway an election process,” Harig said. “I took this personally offensive because I was the only elected official in the negotiation process so I felt this message was personally targeting me.”

Seriously, who the hell did he think they were talking to? Of course it was targeted at him.

Posted by hairhertz on Oct. 07 2010,6:57 pm

Way to go Harig, you are the leader on two separate threads here at ALDiscussion. One month until we find out if people are paying attention.

Posted by hymiebravo on Oct. 07 2010,7:21 pm

Everybody sort of wrote him off the last go round/election too. But he managed to persevere/win/continue/stick around/get reelected.

Posted by gijoeman on Oct. 07 2010,7:43 pm

We need him to stay the course. :;):

Posted by kinnickhawk on Oct. 08 2010,9:25 am

Mark just needs to quit his crying about the vote and face the big picture its time for him to move on and the county needs a new leader (Bob Kindler) who will be fair and understand the needs of the people he has worked with for many years. Mark is all about himself and if Harig wasnt so bad how come there were 3 people running against him, if he was doing his job correctly there wouldnt have been one person that would have ran against him. Harig is what Freeborn county dosent need leading the people that protect us. Im voteing for Bob.

Posted by Geek Squad on Oct. 09 2010,3:05 am

Bob Who? Bob down and kiss my a$$. :rofl:

Posted by denovo on Oct. 09 2010,12:34 pm

Just spoke to Bill V and I still think he'd make a great quarterback for the county security force...he's doin great work for the Y right now...great work!

Posted by gijoeman on Oct. 09 2010,2:51 pm

Makes note to self-----"Don't vote in Bill V for anything if he talks with crazy drug addled kooks"

Posted by Geek Squad on Oct. 11 2010,1:11 am

(gijoeman @ Oct. 09 2010,2:51 pm)

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Makes note to self-----"Don't vote in Bill V for anything if he talks with crazy drug addled kooks"

Now that there is funny. :rofl:

Bill V had his chance but his reputation is mud in this town. Ex-bad cop, lying cheatin , two faced and coward. He lives a double life.
Thank God the voters of Freeborn County saw this when he was running for election. :rockon:

Posted by Bluehosta on Oct. 12 2010,6:36 am

Do not know Bill V., except he almost beat Harig for Sheriff. Have heard a lot of unsubstantiated rumors about him, but also have heard rumors about Superman and Lois Lane. Bill V. isn't running for Sheriff. Harig is running for reelection. He has braged he has 95 employees. He and the commisoners seem to be proud of the fact they are on Federal Welfare, and dependent on it to maintain the 95 employees. Look at the other substaniated items. When you have to look under your bed at night to see if there are cops or government workers under there before you go to bed, maybe we will think government is big enough.

Posted by Wandering Tiger 73 on Oct. 12 2010,3:33 pm

(Geek Squad @ Oct. 10 2010,11:11 pm)

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(gijoeman @ Oct. 09 2010,2:51 pm)

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Makes note to self-----"Don't vote in Bill V for anything if he talks with crazy drug addled kooks"

Now that there is funny. :rofl:

Geek Squad = Mark Carlson... a very dependable source of delusional porcine tripe! You are like a burning case of genital herpes... annoying as hell and you just won't go away! :flame:

Unfortunately, Bill V. was a victim of a well ran character smear campaign and an organizational weakness in the outer areas of the county. The latter could be fixed with a stronger election organization. Unfortunately, the former is a nasty fact of life in politics. Tell a lie long enough and the idiots who are too lazy to gather the facts believe it.

Get back on your meds Mark, and leave serious debate to the intelligent members of this forum. No one who is even remotely intelligent takes you seriously...

Posted by Bluehosta on Oct. 14 2010,9:52 am

Since the election is growing near, lets try to stay on topic. Who are you going to vote for? We have had an explosion in County Government. It is out of control. I need to vote for someone who will try to realign employees to a more efficent and smaller force. Someone who will fix the system, so when large amounts of money show up missing, it can be tracked. Someone who doesn't show favoritisim in getting rid of seized property by selling it to friends and reletives. Someone who doesn't show favoritisim in hiring and promotions. Someone who won't take gifts from the private sector. Someone who isn't contantly making "EXCUSES" for why they are spending more money, and then telling me it isn't costing me anything, becasue it comes out of my Federal pants pocket instead of my State pants pocket. Someone who doesn't tell me that taking more money out of my pocket is good for me. We need to put the money back into the private sector. Incumbents make a career out of a job that is suppose to be Serving the Public, by serving themselves. Vote for CHANGE in county government.

Posted by ann2000 on Oct. 14 2010,10:18 am

Vote for change
Vote for BOB KINDLER for Freeborn County Sheriff.
• Educated
• Experienced
• Ethical
• Effective

Posted by denovo on Oct. 14 2010,10:36 am

i don't care who the sheriff cuz i know he'll blow the whistle now! go sheriff! :rockon:

Posted by Two Bears on Oct. 14 2010,11:10 am

(ann2000 @ Oct. 14 2010,10:18 am)

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Vote for change
Vote for BOB KINDLER for Freeborn County Sheriff.
• Educated
• Experienced
• Ethical
• Effective

OH Crap not the 4 E's...

Posted by Geek Squad on Oct. 15 2010,12:57 am

Kindler , if he wins. I give it about one year then his employee's and the public will want him out just like all the other past Sheriff's.

Holly Laak, ? :cool:

Don Nolander , Forced to retire due to fear of not getting elected again. Money missing due to inmate meals program. :crazy:

Bill Villareal , Wannabe Sheriff that lost to Harig because he's a smooth talking stud. But he didn't fool 625 voters. :rofl:

Mark Harig , Budget money missing? :frusty:

Next Victim = Kindler :dunce:

Posted by intheknow on Oct. 15 2010,7:07 am

Kindler seems awful cozy with the union bosses. How can that be a good thing for hardworking taxpayers?

Posted by hairhertz on Oct. 15 2010,1:35 pm

Cozy or does he just try to get along with union employees?

Posted by Bluehosta on Oct. 15 2010,6:00 pm

Kindler probably gets along with the union bosses and others in the community and in his work place, etc., etc., becasue he respects others rights to free speech, free assembly, and other freedoms guaranteed by the constituion. He looks at others as human being who have rights, even the right of privacy. Now Harig on the other hand, doesn't seem to think even the union has a right to privacy with his almost insistant demanding for vote tallies of a private organization he has not right to make demands of. The office of Sheriff is an imposing position, and I hope Harig doesn't think he can use that to make requests or demands he has no right to.

Posted by hairhertz on Oct. 15 2010,7:24 pm

Harig, imho, doesn't know the difference between being tough and being a bully. Time to retire, sheriff.

Posted by intheknow on Oct. 15 2010,8:07 pm

I was sold on voting for Kindler because he seemed to have a plan to control spending. But if he has to kiss up to the union - there is no way he can save money - not when the biggest cost to taxpayers is excessive salaries and overtime for personnel.

I can't vote for someone owned by the union.

Same goes for any candidate endorsed by the teachers union. They have already been bought and paid for and can't reform government costs.

Posted by Bluehosta on Oct. 15 2010,9:01 pm

(intheknow @ Oct. 15 2010,8:07 pm)

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Harig is crying becasue he didn't get the union endorcement. Because Kindler got it doesn't mean he is going to be controlled by them, it means they respect him. He has said he is going to realign the department more efficently and cost savings and they still endorced him. Happens to be that the savings would be from high paid non union positions, but I would say that is wonderful to finally find a person who will cut the fat from the top, not the bottom. The past eight years, this hasn't been done, I don't think a lame duck Sheriff, Harig, is going to do it his last four years. I am voting for Kindler

Posted by Bluehosta on Oct. 17 2010,8:21 am

Per the Letters To the Editor to do with the Sheriff's election. Sometimes people move to South Dakota to avoid Minnesota personal income tax when they retire. So I don't think I personally can put any validity into a letter written by a person who retired and left this state years ago, who is trying to interfer in local politics. Its the residents of Freeborn County who we should listen to.

Posted by proactive on Oct. 17 2010,11:55 am

Also, considering it has been about 20 years since he retired, is another good reason not to give Trondvedt's letter any volition. He hasn't been a part of what has been going on in our city government to understand the horrible decline.

Posted by proactive on Oct. 17 2010,12:09 pm

Bob Kindler is the only man the citizens of Freeborn Co. should consider for Sheriff. He is honest and knowledgeable and would listen to his staff. He would have a true open door policy, unlike Harig's. His open door policy only works if you are one of his "yes" men. Otherwise, STEER CLEAR!

Posted by hymiebravo on Oct. 17 2010,7:01 pm

I heard one of Harig's radio spots flipping through the dial the other day. He sounded kind of short of breath or something.

Posted by hymiebravo on Oct. 17 2010,7:03 pm

Like I mentioned before he will win either way. If he isn't reelected he gets to retire.

Posted by pantalonesverdes on Oct. 19 2010,5:31 pm

(Bluehosta @ Oct. 17 2010,9:21 am)

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Here's a link to that letter to the editor: < http://www.albertleatribune.com/2010...sheriff >

Here's the one that ran the same day in support of Kindler: http://www.albertleatribune.com/2010/10/16/drive-and-you-will-see-kindler%e2%80%99s-support/

Posted by Bluehosta on Oct. 20 2010,2:31 pm

During the sheriff's debate, Sheriff Harig referred to one of the duties of his Chief Deputy as discipline. So then is he saying that last spring the Chief Deputy was disciplining the other Deputy when they were rolling around on the floor at the Moose club? :oops:

Posted by bianca on Oct. 20 2010,5:33 pm

What was the story on the Moose club anyways? Pena and Arnold have always liked each other. Maybe they were just "wrestling" as sometimes boys will be boys even when they are grown.

IMO, Harig did serve a purpose when he first got in. But anytime there's missing money and the sheriff, city council, county commissioners, etc. don't want to come clean as far as even a reason why someone would make it up even if it wasn't true. Then they lose my vote.

I think Kindler will be a nice change.

When that many people that work under you complain it's time for a change. I will be very surprised if Harig gets re-elected this go round.

Posted by proactive on Oct. 20 2010,8:50 pm

The fight at the Moose originated with Pena trying to pick a fight with an ex-employee of the Jail. Arnold tried to break it up and they ended up fighting. They were NOT just playing as boys can do!! According to others that were there, the cops were not called because they were cops! Harig didn't even reprimand them, let alone any kind of discipline as other staff have received.

Posted by Geek Squad on Oct. 21 2010,5:37 am

(Bluehosta @ Oct. 17 2010,8:21 am)

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Per the Letters To the Editor to do with the Sheriff's election. Sometimes people move to South Dakota to avoid Minnesota personal income tax when they retire.

I don't think I personally can put any validity into a letter written by a person who retired and left this state years ago, who is trying to interfer in local politics. Its the residents of Freeborn County who we should listen to.

When a person retires , you have the right to live any where you want. And you still can write a letter to any paper.

I think you have been brain-washed by the local Albert Lea boys club. :rofl:

Posted by Whiskero on Oct. 21 2010,8:50 am

We hear a lot of complaining and wining by the policeman and the detectives. It basically sounds a lot like factory workers bitching about their hours and their supervisors. Do they really think all will be ok if they get a new boss in place?
It may be good for awhile, and then you will have people complaining again and they won't be able to wait for the next election.

Posted by Whiskero on Oct. 21 2010,8:53 am

As far as the debate, I thought Harig came across very calm. Kindler, all he did was doodle (like Councilman Baker does constantly when he talks). Drove us all up a tree.

Posted by Bluehosta on Oct. 21 2010,9:18 am

I have not expierenced it but I've been told they sometimes call it the code. Law Enforcement does not let the public know what is going on on the inside. So if they are telling you this much, it must not be good at all. They are telling you enough so you can know things are going on that shouldn't be. No matter how much they don't like each other, they don't tell the public. So my guess is, keep pushing. In the history of Freeborn County, the older population says "they have never heard complaints from the Sheriff's Deputies about their boss, until now." You can check also and there probably has not been an incumbent sheriff not re-elected in Freeborn County, so history is being made.

Posted by Whiskero on Oct. 21 2010,9:40 am

Remember, history was being made when Obama was elected, and look what happened.

Posted by Bluehosta on Oct. 21 2010,11:17 am

(Whiskero @ Oct. 21 2010,9:40 am)

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Remember, history was being made when Obama was elected, and look what happened.

You have your right to let anyone influence your vote. But I am not letting Federal or State elections influence my choice for a county election. And I am not going to let anyone who can't vote here and hasn't lived here for ever, influence my vote. Don't sell out to the Feds and the State politicians. Politicians get into trouble when they make it a career. One more term, then they can "retire". Its about serving, its about your vote, its about our local government and not selling it out to the Feds. I'm deciding who to vote for by what happens here. Sheriff Harig has announced this is his last term. Is he going to do in his "lame duck" term, what he didn't do in his first eight years?

Posted by kinnickhawk on Oct. 22 2010,1:15 am

(Whiskero @ Oct. 21 2010,8:50 am)

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YES IT Will Bob will be fair with all the detectives and everyone he works with. Vote Bob.

Posted by kinnickhawk on Oct. 22 2010,1:18 am

(Whiskero @ Oct. 21 2010,8:53 am)

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As far as the debate, I thought Harig came across very calm. Kindler, all he did was doodle (like Councilman Baker does constantly when he talks). Drove us all up a tree.

You must have been watching the wrong debate

Posted by Geek Squad on Oct. 22 2010,3:18 am

(kinnickhawk @ Oct. 22 2010,1:18 am)

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(Whiskero @ Oct. 21 2010,8:53 am)

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As far as the debate, I thought Harig came across very calm. Kindler, all he did was doodle (like Councilman Baker does constantly when he talks). Drove us all up a tree.

You must have been watching the wrong debate

Is that you Bill ( Albert ) V. ? :rofl:

Posted by Whiskero on Oct. 22 2010,8:58 am

I was watching the same one you were.
Doodle-Doodle-Doodle

I am voting for Harig.

Posted by Bluehosta on Oct. 22 2010,11:04 am

I am patiently waiting as the report from the State Auditor is back, the one about the missing money from Civil Process. A repsonsibility of Sheriff Harig. I wonder what it says? When I vote its buisness. Not who smiles the most or says Hi the most. Its who is honest and responsible. Someone who doesn't let dangerous friends out of jail. Someone who doesn't sell his family seized items for almost nothing. Someone who lets us know if there is missing money. Someone who doesn't spend more and more and more. Someone who is a leader, whos men have confidence in him. Someone who hires and promotes fairly, both women and men. Someone who doesn't wait until his last term to do his job. Someone who doesn't take gifts from buisnesses and do a moving add for them at our expence. Do you really think all Sheriff's have to dedicate a whole page on their web site explaining why they ride a motorcycle. I am voting for efficent, honest governement that isn't growing by leaps and bounds. Its ALL your tax money. Both State and Federal. Look at California. Haig must have been giving them budget advice. I'm voting for Deptuy Kindler.

Posted by Whiskero on Oct. 22 2010,11:10 am

Bluehosta, You bring up some good points-I am surprised that no one brought those questions to light at the debate.

Posted by countryboy on Oct. 23 2010,5:31 am

Hey Whiskey, give it up! You all know Harig don't have a chance, that should have been obvious in the first go round.

Posted by Whiskero on Oct. 23 2010,9:03 am

Jeez Country Boy, Maybe you should get back up on that there mule of yours and ride off into the sunset!

Posted by kinnickhawk on Oct. 23 2010,9:49 am

It is now proven that Bob has the endorcement of the Temester now and Mark dosent stand a chance he might as well start packing his boxes and moving out of his office and let Bob take his seat there.

Now all the employees can enjoyl life again without someone breathing down your back.

Posted by pantalonesverdes on Oct. 24 2010,5:49 am

Based on what I've heard and read from numerous sources, the letter from the former Albert Lea police chief hit the nail on the head when he says "My observations lead me to conclude that when making personnel decisions, the most important criteria for Mark Harig is friendship and unwavering, non critical support of his decisions."
< http://www.albertleatribune.com/2010...kindler >
Mr. Klokonos also seems to confirm everything I've heard in his recent letter to the editor.
< http://www.albertleatribune.com/2010...sheriff >

Posted by Blaze on Oct. 24 2010,7:13 am

I haven't heard any negative remarks about the job that Harig has done. Just that his employees don't like him. If Kindler is elected they probably won't like him either. Harig has done a fine job as our sheriff and he has my vote.

Posted by Bluehosta on Oct. 24 2010,8:25 am

(Blaze @ Oct. 24 2010,7:13 am)

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Have you read about the dangerous felon who belonged to the same service club as him he let out of jail? Have you heard of the missing monies? Have you heard of the seized property sold to his family at a rediculous low price? Have you heard of the motorcycle he took for free from a local buisness, that he had to put a whole page on the internet trying to explain? Have you heard of his promotions, and looked at the statistics that his two best friends get 80 percent of the OT? Is he under watch for unfair hiring? Have you heard of the accusations that his campaign committy made up false rumors and tried to ruin marriges in the 2006 election? Have you any questions about why he has 95 employees and sometimes Deputies work alone? Have you heard him talk about spending money and I especially like it when he is spending federal taxes and tells us it costs us nothing? And this I have heard, almost every county polititcian running wants to say they had something to do with the ICE contract. Maybe Kelly Callahan can jump on the ICE thing to and say they don't have passports and he is helping with ICE also. Forget ICE, it doesn't have anything to do with the election. Vote for change. Vote for Kindler.

Posted by kinnickhawk on Oct. 24 2010,8:57 am

(Blaze @ Oct. 24 2010,7:13 am)

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Are you a friend of Harig, probably. Vote Bob.

Posted by pantalonesverdes on Oct. 24 2010,5:00 pm

(Blaze @ Oct. 24 2010,8:13 am)

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Ignorance is bliss.

Posted by hymiebravo on Oct. 24 2010,7:45 pm

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My observations lead me to conclude that when making personnel decisions, the most important criteria for Mark Harig is friendship and unwavering, non critical support of his decisions."

To me that seems like the "least" compelling argument for not voting for the guy. I would put that at the bottom as far as importance.

That is just human nature and happens pretty much everywhere. Does anyone think that a replacement to Harig will look to unfriendly critical wavering people instead? lol

C-mon. . . .

Posted by pantalonesverdes on Oct. 25 2010,2:07 pm

The candidates give their pitches:
< http://www.albertleatribune.com/2010...8-years >
< http://www.albertleatribune.com/2010...sheriff >

Posted by proactive on Oct. 25 2010,7:26 pm

I have just learned of another reason NOT to vote for Harig. Recently a member of his Jail staff turned in a notice for deployment to the middle east. Pena took the paperwork, read it, ripped it up and started swearing at the officer complaining that now they were going to have to fork out for overtime to cover while he was deployed! All this by a man who lies on his own time card with the Sheriff's approval!

Posted by Bluehosta on Oct. 25 2010,8:23 pm

(proactive @ Oct. 25 2010,7:26 pm)

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Deputy Pena is one of Sheriff Harig's two best Deputies. So he must be implementing what Sheriff Harig referred to as his support for the deployed military?

Posted by proactive on Oct. 25 2010,8:28 pm

Sounds like maybe Pena's wife has had enough of his bull also. She kicked him out a while back!

Posted by MADDOG on Oct. 25 2010,9:53 pm

(proactive @ Oct. 25 2010,7:26 pm)

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Recently a member of his Jail staff turned in a notice for deployment to the middle east. Pena took the paperwork, read it, ripped it up and started swearing at the officer complaining that now they were going to have to fork out for overtime to cover while he was deployed! All this by a man who lies on his own time card with the Sheriff's approval!

I know that Nat'l Guard deployment has been a real strain on not just the county, but all employers affected by a two fronted war. Employees need the support of their employers when they are deployed. Keep in mind, it is often a hardship for the employer both to fill a temporary position and the additional costs they often incur. Now when it's a situation like the jail, my tax dollars are involved. The department has a budget funded by our money. If this is a contributing factor to them being able to maintain their allotment, the sheriff has to answer for his overages. Perhaps forced to cut services elsewhere.

We may not like it, but we have to support those who chose to protect our freedoms. I think most of us here do support our troops.

But,

if that certain jailer happens to be an ex-commissioner who ran out and signed up right after he was given keys to the cells...

What was the whole story behind that one again?

Posted by Bluehosta on Oct. 25 2010,10:13 pm

January – June 2010 Overtime for those three positions = $10,117
If stayed on track the total for 2010 will be $20,234

91.4% or $9,243 went to Chief Deputy & 1 Jail Administrator
Total savings for 2010 estimated minimally @ $20,000 (Does Not Includes Fringe Benefits)

Above they are talking about Deputy Arnold and Deputy Pena's OT for the first six months and estimate for the rest of the year. Again, Sheriff Harig's best two Deputies. Are they worried about OT? Only the OT they can't divert to themselves. The rest of the Sheriff's Department is trying to tell you something: "VOTE FOR KINDLER IF YOU WANT ANY CHANCE OF OUR GOVERNMENT DEBT NOT ENDING UP LIKE CALIFORNIA."

Posted by bianca on Oct. 25 2010,10:34 pm

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Sounds like maybe Pena's wife has had enough of his bull also. She kicked him out a while back!

That's too bad if it's true. That hopefully is just the rumor mill running amok. They hadn't been married that long and he was great with the kids. Her parents love him also.

Despite what happens with Harig, I wish Deb and Marcellino the best. It's Deb's birthday today

Posted by MADDOG on Oct. 25 2010,10:44 pm

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"VOTE FOR KINDLER IF YOU WANT ANY CHANCE OF OUR GOVERNEMENT DEBT NOT ENDING UP LIKE CALIFORNIA."

I slight exaggeration perhaps? :sarcasm:

Posted by Bluehosta on Oct. 25 2010,11:41 pm

(MADDOG @ Oct. 25 2010,10:44 pm)

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"VOTE FOR KINDLER IF YOU WANT ANY CHANCE OF OUR GOVERNEMENT DEBT NOT ENDING UP LIKE CALIFORNIA."

I slight exaggeration perhaps? :sarcasm:

Could be a slight exageration, but I'm sure California, never thought they would be finacially in the shape they are.

Just a suggestion , we should all try not to take part in name calling or interferring in anyones private realtionship. I can only empathize with those that are unfortunate enough to have domestic problems.

Posted by Bluehosta on Oct. 26 2010,5:35 pm

My husband said: "So if Sheriff Harig takes a motorcycle as a gift for several years to use for his own gain, and he is the only one that rides it, and it gets a lot of questionable miles on it, isn't that illegal? Who cares about the silly explanation he used. Is that any different then a senator taking a free plane to use from Lockeed while in office? I don't think so." He said the model of the motorcycle wasn't a "Wide Glide" though, he thought the model was the "Down Hill Slide." :rofl:

Posted by HiggsBoson on Oct. 26 2010,6:12 pm

Deputy Pena sure looks good driving around in that sweet black Cadillac. Life must be good as one of the annointed ones in the Sheriff's department.

Posted by scary on Oct. 26 2010,7:52 pm

To:libbie or any other informed posters that will do the research and give us the answer!

How many new posters have joined the forum since the reelection of harig?

IMO most of the new ones have inside info!

And most of them post anti-harig!

Posted by RET on Oct. 27 2010,6:34 am

His accepting the use of the cycle would be against County policy if he is the only one using it. I brought this up before and was chastised by some of the posters here. In my opinion if no one else uses it then he is in violation of County policy. They are not allowed to accecpt any gift except while performing a special function, i.e. giving a lecture to a group where lunch is served, then they can accept the meal if they spoke. If they attended and did not speak technically they should not accept the meal but rather pay for it.

Posted by pantalonesverdes on Oct. 27 2010,8:48 am

Here's what Harig has to say about his motorcycle:
< http://markharig.com/My-Motorcycle.php >

Posted by RET on Oct. 27 2010,9:12 am

I notice he said he uses it for meetings. Well I know for a fact that the County prohibited their employees from using motorcycles as a means of transportation or claiming reimbursement for use there of as they were considered by the board as unsafe. So if County employees were not allowed to use their privately owned cycles and claim reimbusement then how can Harig get away with the "I use it for meetings."

Posted by proactive on Oct. 28 2010,8:28 pm

In response to Scary...most of the responses are negative towards Harig because there is very little good to say about him. He has lied his way through the last few years and if re-elected will continue. The ONLY man to elect for our new Sheriff is Bob Kindler.

Posted by alcitizens on Oct. 28 2010,8:30 pm

I voted Kindler..

Posted by pantalonesverdes on Oct. 29 2010,10:20 am

Here are some of the more recent letters to the editor in the Tribune:
< http://www.albertleatribune.com/2010...olitics >
< http://www.albertleatribune.com/2010...-on-ice >
< http://www.albertleatribune.com/2010...-change >
< http://www.albertleatribune.com/2010...-stones >
< http://www.albertleatribune.com/2010...-itself >
< http://www.albertleatribune.com/2010...elected >
< http://www.albertleatribune.com/2010...ves-too >
< http://www.albertleatribune.com/2010...-grants >

Posted by Bluehosta on Oct. 29 2010,10:42 am

So I have read the letters to the editor. I wonder why I would put any credit into a letter from someone from Wells, someone from Arizona, or someone from Rapid City, south Dakota. All places retired persons go to spend their big retirements. If you want to be involved here, live here. A lot of us have years to go before retirement, and plan on staying here then. Are you going to vote for a lame duck, who says he will do in his "last" term what he has failed to do in the first eight years? Not me, I have a chance to make the future better and I am going to. I am voting with the people of the Freeborn County, and I'm voting for Kindler. I see the paper endorced Kindler now.

Posted by ann2000 on Oct. 29 2010,11:29 am

< http://www.albertleatribune.com/2010...sheriff >

Great Job Bob!!!!

Please join me next Tuesday, Nov. 2nd in voting in
Bob Kindler for the next Freeborn County Sheriff.

Posted by countryboy on Oct. 29 2010,3:43 pm

(pantalonesverdes @ Oct. 29 2010,10:20 am)

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Is it me or do all the people that have wrote in favor of Harig all part of his entourage? The two that stank out the most are his family member that likely benifited from "sheriff sales" and Pena the a$$ kissing suck up. :rofl:

Posted by Santorini on Oct. 29 2010,5:51 pm

It's especially interesting to me this Jasperson that wrote a letter-to-the-editor completely denegrating Sherriff Harrig. I thought she was a 'jailer' and here she is in her letter talking about the 'illegal alien' inmates which are part of the ICE program. If she talks this way in public I shutter to think how she treats the inmates at her workplace :angry:

She sounds like a walking, talking, breathing definition of disgruntled employee :rockon:

Do you suppose it's because Sherriff Harrig made the employees do all 3-shifts :dunno:

Not just 1-shift!

And also, the unions did not endorse Harrig...so :dunno:

Who wants a boss who's in bed with the unions :beer:

Ya think then the public will be served??? Or what's owed to the unions :dunno:

Sherriff Harrig deserves and has earned a great deal of respect. He would not ask his employees to do anything he himself would not do. He has gone undercover risking his life.
Who wants a sherriff that sits behind a desk like a secretary :dunno:

Posted by Oldbadge on Oct. 29 2010,8:15 pm

There's an old saying in Law Enforcement. Do you want to stopped by a Deputy that's in a good mood, or one that's in a bad mood??? That's a no-brainer, and one that maybe you as voters should consider as you cast your ballot.

Law Enforcement is a brotherhood and generally does'nt talk about their gripes in public. Obviously there are problems in the Sheriffs Department to have so many sworn personnel being so vocal about a need for a change. I give them a lot of credit for doing so.

On the flip side, without mentioning any names, I can think of three that are quite happy with the current Sheriff. To hold such high ranking positions with minimal qualifications is "pretty special." Nuff said:

Posted by proactive on Oct. 29 2010,8:33 pm

Santorini...Jaspersen no longer works in the Jail. She was laid of 18 months ago. She worked hard as the Jail Programmer helping in the transition team and setting up for the ICE contract but Pena didn't like her, made a point of doing everything he could to get rid of her and finally managed to get her out of there. She intimidated him so she was gone! She still has many contacts at the Sheriff's Office so I know everything in her letter is true!

Posted by Whiskero on Oct. 30 2010,10:00 am

So what do all of these deputies think their work schedules are going to be if Kindler is elected?
Everything will be all roses? It doesn't work that way.

Posted by Bluehosta on Oct. 30 2010,11:32 am

The Deputies of this county, I think, only expect fairness, intelligence, and responsibility applied to their scheduling situation. As a citizen of this county I am looking for intelligence and non bias attitudes applied and someone who will be responsible with our tax dollars. We are not getting our monies worth. Times have changed, you have to have abilities and ethics. This election is about more then ICE and schedules, don't be mislead. Neither Al Gore nor Sheriff Harig invented the Internet. If you are not going to vote for change and a better situation, why vote. Vote for Kindler.

Posted by proactive on Oct. 30 2010,5:00 pm

Well said Bluehosta!! Bob Kindler is the only way to vote on Tuesday!!

Posted by Santorini on Oct. 30 2010,7:27 pm

(proactive @ Oct. 29 2010,8:33 pm)

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You use the word intimidated :dunno:

She's laid off because she intimidated him?

There's a huge difference between the word
intimidate and insubbordination? I don't know who any of these people are...I'm just reading between the lines
from her letter and your comments :angel:

People don't get fired because they intimidate a boss :rofl:

.
Perhaps her personality at the workplace was too abrasive and harsh. Perhaps she didn't like 'him' as a boss and went out of her way to be a problem? Perhaps she was mean and crude to inmates? Perhaps she wasn't doing a satisfactory job? Who knows...
Only "HIM" and "HER" :angel:

Posted by Santorini on Oct. 30 2010,7:42 pm

(Bluehosta @ Oct. 30 2010,11:32 am)

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You are right about one thing...

wanting someone unbiased responsible for our tax dollars.

And this you will get with someone who was endorsed by the unions :crazy:

As I stated in a previous post; we do NOT want our sheriff beholding to anyone or any group!
We do NOT need a sheriff who is in 'bed' with the unions.

WHY?

MONEY PEOPLE!!!!
The unions do NOT give anything for FREE without future expectations. And that includes increased tax spending on the citizens part to pay for those new union contracts and agreements.

I don't really care about schedules, or hours,
or the like; but I do care about what is best for the citizens!!! And it is NOT a sheriff who is in the back pocket of any union.

Many of us have inconvenient and long hours, holidays and so forth...and it's not fun...it is, however, reality!

People vote for the sheriff that will keep our tax dollars in check without raising them!!! Which WILL happen when UNION CONTRACTS come up!

Posted by Bluehosta on Oct. 30 2010,11:55 pm

I do not believe that being endorsed by a Union says anything other then the working person thinks you are fair and honest. I DON'T MEAN TO YELL, BUT IT WAS SHERIFF HARIG WHO WAS DISAPOINTED HE DIDN'T GET THE ENDORSEMENT FROM THE UNION AND BLAMED IT ON THE RESONING THAT NOT ALL THE VOTES WERE CAST, AND HE WANTED TO KNOW THE TALLY NUMBERS, INCINUATING THERE WOULD OR COULD HAVE BEEN A DIFFERENT OUTCOME. Did you miss all that?

?? You better go back and read how upset Sheriff Harig was that he didn't get the endorcement. Individuals endorce people also, you want to stop that also. How about the news paper endorcement, do you have some conspiracy about that? I don't think Harigs campaign has left out anyone to offend. Vote for Kindler.

Posted by OEF_Soldier on Oct. 31 2010,12:25 am

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People vote for the sheriff that will keep our tax dollars in check without raising them!!! Which WILL happen when UNION CONTRACTS come up!

Yes let's vote for the Sheriff who will keep our tax dollars in check. :sarcasm:

Harig certainly is not that guy and I do believe he would face similar issues when the Union contracts come up. In the end the Sheriff does not have the final say regarding union contracts and the money allocated towards them. That is the purview of the County Commissioners.

Harig is not a shining example of a sheriff whom I want in that office anymore. He has cost us in taxpayer dollars, (the EM Coordinator Position that was originally the Sheriff's job but is no longer comes to mind) back door dealings and an inability to deal with those personnel who disagree with him or his lackeys and their view points. It's quite easy to drum up complaints that can get people fired even in a union. It's harder to fight those "charges" when everyone who they call for witnesses is kissing the a$$ of the boss or one of the lackeys in charge.

If Kindler fails to do the job we expect of him then we can always kick him out in the next election.

Posted by Santorini on Oct. 31 2010,9:33 pm

(Bluehosta @ Oct. 30 2010,11:55 pm)

QUOTE

Fairness and honesty, along with self-respect and dignity have long been replaced with Machiavellian intelligence

Where have you been?
Neither YOU or anyone else can deny a unions purpose!
It's to make sure employees are not underpaid or overworked. (more recent definitions reflect 'wants' not 'needs' of the worker! in this case at the TAX-PAYERS expense!)

We need a Sheriff with a PROVEN track record. Sheriff Harig is NOT afraid to STAND UP to the negative forces out there...but more importantly...he's not beholding to anyone!

This is NOT about a popularity contest because some employees don't like the changes that were implemented.

When it becomes a popularity contest because of disgruntled employees the citizens are the ones that suffer. The purpose of a job is NOT to go to work to make friends...it's to dutifully and respectfully perform the tasks required of the position.

Start making friends among those with the power only further polarizes the professionals and the public, leading to greater public suspicion and discontent.

Mr. Kindler sounds like a very nice man, and a good co-worker. But leaders need to make tough decisions and this is where experience, not popularity is paramount.

Sheriff Harig is only human, of course he would be upset that the union comes forward with an endorsement. He, like many of us, is aware of the behind the scenes very calculated movement going on.
And it's exactly this type of insideous behavior that makes the public suspicious of this tight-knit group!

The union has had to work with Sheriff Harig in the past and they know how tough he is...naturally they want somebody a little easier to manipulate :crazy:

Posted by babyangel56007 on Oct. 31 2010,9:49 pm

Bluehosta we all know you are Jean Jasperson and at least you could start telling the truth on these post. Just because you didn't like the choices you were given for a job cut you spurted off and quit so now you keep yourself busy writing lies. Kindler may be o.k. but Harig has the experience and is a very honest fair sheriff. Read your tribune today and see which candidate has the real experience!!!!

Posted by Liberal on Oct. 31 2010,10:05 pm

I pay pretty close attention to local government and I'd say we have a corrupt Sheriff. The worst part about having a corrupt Sheriff is that he and his penis touching buddy give the honest deputies a bad name.

Posted by Santorini on Oct. 31 2010,10:20 pm

(Liberal @ Oct. 31 2010,10:05 pm)

QUOTE

Corrupt is a pretty harsh claim there liberal.

What exactly do you have to back up the defaming statement.

Seems to me Sherrif Harig has been pretty tough on drug offenders and that offends the offenders; so there's alot of P'd off offenders out there. Is that about right?

Posted by Santorini on Oct. 31 2010,10:28 pm

Liberal you are so liberal through and through. :crazy:

You liberals are NEVER about facts, some distorted at best and because you liberals have no ammunition of substance to offer you resort to a ferocious demonization of opponents.

It's redundant.

Posted by Liberal on Oct. 31 2010,10:37 pm

QUOTE

Corrupt is a pretty harsh claim there liberal.

Corrupt is the only word that fits a Sheriff that likes to take seized property for his own use. Have you ever wondered why the Sheriff's department seizes vehicles, but you never see any for sale?

What would you call a Sheriff that seized a semi trailer and then had it sold to his brother for $100. Or a Sheriff that seizes a truck and keeps it at his house for his personal use?

Posted by Santorini on Oct. 31 2010,10:42 pm

(Liberal @ Oct. 31 2010,10:37 pm)

QUOTE

Corrupt is a pretty harsh claim there liberal.

Good, so the county got an extra $100 :clap:

Posted by Liberal on Oct. 31 2010,10:52 pm

QUOTE

Liberal you are so liberal through and through. :crazy:

And you're a conservative/hater through and through. Not much into that Christianity stuff are you?

QUOTE

You liberals are NEVER about facts, some distorted at best and because you liberals have no ammunition of substance to offer you resort to a ferocious demonization of opponents.

Facts? Coming from the queen of cut and paste bogus emails that's funny. Who's my opponent? I don't have a dog in this fight, never had any dealings with the sheriff or anyone that works for him, but I know corruption when I see it.

QUOTE

It's redundant.

What's redundant? Maybe you should keep it under 3 syllables, or at least learn to use a dictionary before you throw those big words out there.

Posted by babyangel56007 on Nov. 01 2010,12:23 am

Liberal~ If you had a brain you would take it out and play with it!!!!

Posted by pantalonesverdes on Nov. 01 2010,12:25 am

Update on the Sheriffs Office embezzlement case from the Tribune:
< http://www.albertleatribune.com/2010...changes >

Posted by Liberal on Nov. 01 2010,12:35 am

(babyangel56007 @ Nov. 01 2010,12:23 am)

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Liberal~ If you had a brain you would take it out and play with it!!!!

What?

, or

Posted by pantalonesverdes on Nov. 01 2010,2:22 am

How about less personal attacks and more political debate, please.

Posted by hairhertz on Nov. 01 2010,2:36 am

nelson

Posted by Bluehosta on Nov. 01 2010,6:44 am

Not hiring woman. Hiring and promoting only friends. Taking seized property more then often for personal gain. Not disciplining Deputies who get into fights in bars. Promoting Deputies who have been charged and convicted of very serious crimes. Not paying attention to money missing from departments, and not wanting outside investigations, which cost us again thousands of dollars. Not keeping up on his training until he has to be remediated. Is Sheriff Harig paying attention to anything, except when his friends end up in jail, he knows, becasue he lets them out to go to club meeings. He enlarged the Dept. to 95 personal, and now he says he will do in his last four years what he didn't the first eight. Taking gifts of a motorcyle for years. I'm not voting for someone who hasn't done in eight years what he says he will do in his lame duck last four. I don't know who said this but: "the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different outcome." I voting for change and a better chance at saving this country. I'm voting for Kindler.

Thanks to everyone who didn't use name calling or try to ruin faimies, like in the last election. Good Bye

Posted by countryboy on Nov. 01 2010,6:46 am

(Liberal @ Oct. 31 2010,10:05 pm)

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I rarely agree with you libby, but am in 110% agreement with this statement. Along with his penis touching partner you forgot to throw in his bar brawling buddy as well. Its real simple-when you surround yourself with the wrong people, you won't move forward. Good managers surround themselves with the right people-business 101. I am very interested to see what will become of the missing money once the election is over.

Posted by proactive on Nov. 01 2010,9:34 am

It is definitely time to quit the name calling on here. It doesn't matter who is who on here, we all are entitled to our opinions. But I can guarantee you, Blue Hosta is not Jaspersen.

Please remember, Harig is NOT honest. You cannot believe a word he says. That is the important thing to remember.

A vote for Bob Kindler for our new Sheriff is the way to go. He will never lie to you or his staff. He follows through on what he believes in. VOTE BOB KINDLER!!

Posted by ann2000 on Nov. 01 2010,10:13 am

Well said proactive!

VOTE BOB KINDLER!

Posted by babyangel56007 on Nov. 01 2010,11:53 am

Bluehosta~ You have no room to talk about ruining families as it was you at the line dancing classes that broke up Dennis and Marge. And Tom Menning should be more careful of his accusations also as while he was in law enforcement a squad car was vandalized while on duty as he was in having an affair with L.R. Clean your own closets before worrying about everyone else. I know more things I could put on here to dirty up your name the way you try to do to anyone you have a grudge against also.

Posted by busybee on Nov. 01 2010,2:17 pm

Wow Baby!

It seems to me that Bluehosta wouldn't have any control over what anyone else's choices are.

It's not as if bringing up some of the issues of concern by Bluehosta couldn't be stated by anyone else either. For cripes sake, it's all been written in the Tribune.

Further, Bluehosta is NOT questioning or making accusatuna about the sheriff and his personal relationships outside of being a sheriff.

Seems to me, in the U.S., when people run for public office, no one is granted with an entitlement of never having to be challenged for the choices they've made as it applies to those citizens they have served or desire to serve again.

Posted by busybee on Nov. 01 2010,2:20 pm

Oops. * accusations*

Posted by Santorini on Nov. 01 2010,5:35 pm

(Liberal @ Oct. 31 2010,10:52 pm)

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Liberal you are so liberal through and through. :crazy:

And you're a conservative/hater through and through. Not much into that Christianity stuff are you?

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You liberals are NEVER about facts, some distorted at best and because you liberals have no ammunition of substance to offer you resort to a ferocious demonization of opponents.

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It's redundant.

What's redundant? Maybe you should keep it under 3 syllables, or at least learn to use a dictionary before you throw those big words out there.

YAWN...
YAWN...

:popcorn:

Posted by Santorini on Nov. 01 2010,5:55 pm

BlueHosta, Ann2000, proactive have to all be employees of law enforcement or employed at the court house since they seem to be privy to all this inside information.
And they're disgruntled employees OR they are friends with people who are disgruntled and are being fed this information.

Going back to this Jasperson person...
Someone wrote she "intimidated" someone which is why she was let go...Right! :violin:

Here's the thing...because of the ICE program 17 jailers were added, 17 new jobs! If Jasperson was such an outstanding employee why was she passed over and 17 new people hired :dunno:

There's always more to the story...
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...!!!!

Posted by Santorini on Nov. 01 2010,6:07 pm

Ok, after re-reading the posts BlueHosta, Ann2000, and proactive are one in the same

Posted by Santorini on Nov. 01 2010,6:10 pm

(pantalonesverdes @ Nov. 01 2010,12:25 am)

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Update on the Sheriffs Office embezzlement case from the Tribune:
< http://www.albertleatribune.com/2010...changes >

Are you with the sheriffs department too???

Posted by canvasback on Nov. 01 2010,6:31 pm

We're all with the sheriffs dept., and we fly black helicopters over your house...

Posted by busybee on Nov. 01 2010,6:51 pm

canvasback · Posted on Nov. 01 2010,6:31 pm

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We're all with the sheriffs dept., and we fly black helicopters over your house...

Posted by Bluehosta on Nov. 01 2010,7:17 pm

OK, I'm back for an one last post. What does calling names, talking about non canidates private lives, that are not part of this election, have to do with this election? Nothing. A lot of people here were upset when the tribune went to requiring names and positive IDs before posting. Some people here do not want to be identified, but themselves try to label everyone else, and get the other persons idenity. It isn't supposed to be that way. We should all be responsible and publish only things we wouldn't be offended to have our children see. OH, got to go, Dancing With the Stars is coming on. Hope you all enjoy your life and vote tomorrow. I am, I'm voting for Kindler. Good bye for ever.

Posted by proactive on Nov. 01 2010,8:17 pm

(babyangel56007 @ Nov. 01 2010,11:53 am)

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First off I want to apologize to Blue Hosta for being blamed for being someone whom she is not! And second if this Babyangel56007 is going to be going around throwing out totally off the wall accusations she better get some facts straight first!
There are 2 sides to every story and the truth lies somewhere in the middle of it all. But in this case she has struck out on every side of the story!
Some peoples minds are just like cement, all mixed up and permanently set!
Get your facts straight before you go around accusing people of anything!
By the way, what's hiding in her closet! Usually the one that screams the loudest has the most to hide!

Posted by proactive on Nov. 01 2010,8:32 pm

(Santorini @ Nov. 01 2010,5:55 pm)

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Here's the thing...because of the ICE program 17 jailers were added, 17 new jobs! If Jasperson was such an outstanding employee why was she passed over and 17 new people hired :dunno:

There's always more to the story...
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...!!!!

The whole department is basically disgruntled with the exception of 4 or 5 yes men that think the sheriff walks on water and performs miracles! The only support he has is a few select family and friends.
By the way, I am Proactive! And neither am I female or employed by the jail or have I ever been employed by the jail!
You have access to the same information that I am privy to but I guess it's much easier to sit on your butt hiding behind the keys on your keyboard than to get actively involved and actually find out some facts!
Are you one of the sheriffs yes men, relatives or close friends?

Posted by babyangel56007 on Nov. 01 2010,9:01 pm

I see you don't like the truth coming out about your wife. Santoria is right and there is alot more to the story about your wife and her job. She just cannot for some reason tell the truth because she had a hot head and decided to quit at the time instead of thinking it over first. Now she just is trying to sell jewelry and I bet the pay is peanuts to the job she could have had if she only would have used her head instead of her mouth at the time!!!!!

Posted by babyangel56007 on Nov. 01 2010,9:29 pm

Sorry! I meant Santorini.

Posted by Liberal on Nov. 01 2010,10:10 pm

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Santoria is right

Posted by proactive on Nov. 01 2010,10:48 pm

(babyangel56007 @ Nov. 01 2010,9:01 pm)

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Well, keep guessing, making accusations and putting out stuff that nobody else even cares about except apparently you!
You are right about the fact that there is probably much more to your story than what's being told. Maybe YOU should find that out before making accusations!
As others have posted on this forum, when did this become part of anyone's personal lives that have nothing to do with this election?
As for me I'll be going to the poles tomorrow and voting for the only viable candidate for sheriff. Bob Kindler!
Have a great night!

Posted by pantalonesverdes on Nov. 01 2010,10:51 pm

(Santorini @ Nov. 01 2010,7:10 pm)

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(pantalonesverdes @ Nov. 01 2010,12:25 am)

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Update on the Sheriffs Office embezzlement case from the Tribune:
< http://www.albertleatribune.com/2010...changes >

Are you with the sheriffs department too???

No, but I do pilot a black helicopter! :-)

Posted by babyangel56007 on Nov. 01 2010,11:18 pm

I knew your wife before you ever did proactive as I used to frequent the Hollandale cafe when she ran it . she never has been selective with men so I can see how she ended up with you. The guys would come in after the bar closed and she would take them out back . She always had a great reputation !!!!! wanna hear more.... what ya suppose your daughter thinks of her Stepmom?

? ( I feel sorry for her)
By the way what was wrong with your pee test that you could not pass it for truck driving? To much wacky weed.

Posted by countryboy on Nov. 01 2010,11:45 pm

(babyangel56007 @ Nov. 01 2010,11:18 pm)

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I knew your wife before you ever did proactive as I used to frequent the Hollandale cafe when she ran it . she never has been selective with men so I can see how she ended up with you. The guys would come in after the bar closed and she would take them out back . She always had a great reputation !!!!! wanna hear more... what ya suppose your daughter thinks of her Stepmom?

? ( I feel sorry for her)
By the way what was wrong with your pee test that you could not pass it for truck driving? To much wacky weed.

So since you have all the information, can you answer my question about the missing money and the sales of the confiscated property?

Posted by busybee on Nov. 02 2010,12:52 am

56007baby...if you are trying to show support and loyalty for Sheriff Harig by attacking Bluehosta, Liberal and now proactive, it's not working for me.

On the contrary, your choice to sign up to be a member here just to degrade posters who choose to challenge the choices and job performance of Sheriff Harig easily leans towards an interpretation that there has been on-going problems at the Sheriff's Department between employees.

You come across as an employee of the Sheriff's Dept. because you have chosen to state that Bluehosta is a "previous employee" of the Sheriff's Dept., what supposedly led to that, why they have chosen to challenge Sheriff Harig's choice's for the past 8 years and also who they are as a person beyond having anything to do with employment at the Sheriff's Dept.

Sadly, in a sense, you have proven exactly what Bluehosta has claimed is a fact about how those who choose to be loyal supporters of Sheriff Harig will also choose to treat another citizen of F.C. like crap if they don't grant Sheriff Harig with their unconditional support.

Being a bully to any forum member on here because they choose to challenge and/or question one or more of the choices Sheriff Harig has made in the past 8 years is NOT productive.

Posted by pantalonesverdes on Nov. 02 2010,8:13 am

Get out and vote!

Posted by hairhertz on Nov. 02 2010,8:59 am

(babyangel56007 @ Nov. 01 2010,11:18 pm)

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I knew your wife before you ever did proactive as I used to frequent the Hollandale cafe when she ran it . she never has been selective with men so I can see how she ended up with you. The guys would come in after the bar closed and she would take them out back . She always had a great reputation !!!!! wanna hear more... what ya suppose your daughter thinks of her Stepmom?

? ( I feel sorry for her)
By the way what was wrong with your pee test that you could not pass it for truck driving? To much wacky weed.

way too much of a personal attack, imho

Posted by Whiskero on Nov. 02 2010,9:00 am

Proactive-In your statements about Kindler never will do this or that, remember the old saying, Never say Never, it will bite you in the a$$.

Posted by singlemomx4 on Nov. 02 2010,9:06 am

I voted Harig he himself ran a clean campaign.

Posted by OEF_Soldier on Nov. 02 2010,9:26 am

(hairhertz @ Nov. 02 2010,8:59 am)

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way too much of a personal attack, imho

What do you expect HH? Apparently the "angel" (sarcasm intended) has issues with anyone other than her sugar daddy being in the Sheriff's office.

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I voted Harig he himself ran a clean campaign.

Didn't see a whole lot of campaigning by either candidate and neither one ran a "dirty" campaign from what little I did see.

Posted by Liberal on Nov. 02 2010,2:00 pm

During this election I had several people contact me to complain that Harig's supporters were trying to break up marriages by spreading malicous rumors about the other candidates and their spouses in the last election, and this primary. Nobody wanted to be quoted about, so I've kept it to myself.

I would guess most people can figure out that's exactly what this half-wit Harig supporter babyangel56007 is doing. I'd say that's about as dirty as you can get, and should tell you everything you need to know about Harig and his supporters.

Posted by ann2000 on Nov. 02 2010,2:25 pm

Well said Liberal!

Vote for a positive change,
Vote Bob Kindler for Freeborn County Sheriff

Posted by Slick on Nov. 02 2010,4:17 pm

Voted Kindler. Thanks for some of the input.

Posted by Liberal on Nov. 02 2010,10:28 pm

< https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key...et=true >

Kindler is 2000 votes ahead with 30/40 precincts in.

Harig 3,954 39%
Kindler 6,085 61%

:rockon:

Posted by OEF_Soldier on Nov. 02 2010,10:32 pm

Whooooooot!!!!!!

Posted by alcitizens on Nov. 02 2010,10:40 pm

Posted by busybee on Nov. 02 2010,10:48 pm

Kindler wins by almost 3,000 more votes.

Posted by Liberal on Nov. 02 2010,10:58 pm

Mark Harig 5,203 39%
Bob Kindler 8,099 61%
Total votes 13317 precincts reporting 40/40

Posted by hairhertz on Nov. 02 2010,11:09 pm

happy dance :rockon:

Posted by proactive on Nov. 02 2010,11:40 pm

A wonderful night for Freeborn County! Congratulations to the new Sheriff!! Thank you to all who voted!!

Posted by Old Cracker on Nov. 03 2010,7:21 am

The streets are safe again. :beer:

Posted by kanga_454 on Nov. 03 2010,8:38 am

Congratulations Freeborn County and Bob Kindler! We have now voted in a great person for sheriff! :clap:

Posted by pantalonesverdes on Nov. 03 2010,9:43 am

Posted by Whiskero on Nov. 03 2010,11:22 am

We can only hope....

Posted by twingroves on Nov. 03 2010,12:29 pm

wait 1 yr and then see what you will say about him

Posted by Santorini on Nov. 03 2010,1:55 pm

Congratulations to the new sheriff. I do not know who he is but he sounds very nice.

But what I've seen from this race;
This job is only as solid as the employees are happy :thumbsup:

So he has his work cut out for him!

Posted by Robert Hoffman on Nov. 03 2010,2:34 pm

...he didn't get my vote but is going to be the Sheriff now so will see my support. A few of these last posts are right on the money though; many people will be singing a new song soon enough-he has his work cut out for him.