Topic: Sheriff race, who are you voting for?
started by: Liberal
Posted by Liberal on Jul. 09 2010,11:54 am
In about a month we will be voting in the primary, who will you vote for?It sure would be great to see Harig voted out in the primary.
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Posted by Liberal on Jul. 09 2010,2:19 pm
Take back America from who?Is that the new way of saying, "I want me country back"?
Posted by badboy2 on Jul. 09 2010,2:30 pm
Its time the possey is sent to the pasture!!
Posted by Oldbadge on Jul. 09 2010,3:44 pm
It's to bad Sheriff Joe Arpaio does'nt live in Freeborn County. That would be an interesting expierience..I guess this primary will be just one example of how much "change" the residents of Freeborn County really want.. Your votes will decide what kind of enforcement you get..
Posted by ControlledHyperness on Jul. 09 2010,4:33 pm
So for those of you who are voting for Kindler, can you please tell me WHY? I have been to his site, and read what he has to say...same for Merkouris. As we have seen what Harig has to offer, I haven't been there, and I have no clue if Marc Johnson even HAS a site. Trying to be as informed as I can be before the Aug. Primaries, I enjoy researching out who is who in these elections, and am curious as to why Kindler is the supposed "best choice".
Posted by gijoeman on Jul. 09 2010,5:25 pm
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It's to bad Sheriff Joe Arpaio does'nt live in Freeborn County. That would be an interesting expierience..
Ya, that would be just great Einstein. That way we could pay 10's of millions in civil lawsuits every year because we're rich over here. I swear to God, don't you people even try to think before you comment?
The votes will decide the kind of enforcement we get? Are you some kind of short bus rider Chumley? The legislature decides what kind of enforcement we get. Cops are just errand boys.
Posted by gijoeman on Jul. 09 2010,5:34 pm
There's no difference between them. They are all for filling up the jails with Mexicans and potheads, preferably both at the same time. They are all for seizing as much property as they can get away with. One sells the stuff to his brother for pennies on the dollar and another would give the stuff away to his family and friends. I mean this isn't rocket surgery. Allow a man to take from another and we are no better that the English who we fought for independence. Most of us would go ahead and steal if the people allowed us to. Only the good, righteous and noble ones would not. The same type of people who formed this country in the first place and they're all gone now and none of them are running for Sheriff.
Posted by Spidey on Jul. 09 2010,6:00 pm
(ControlledHyperness @ Jul. 09 2010,4:33 pm)
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So for those of you who are voting for Kindler, can you please tell me WHY? I have been to his site, and read what he has to say...same for Merkouris. As we have seen what Harig has to offer, I haven't been there, and I have no clue if Marc Johnson even HAS a site. Trying to be as informed as I can be before the Aug. Primaries, I enjoy researching out who is who in these elections, and am curious as to why Kindler is the supposed "best choice".
Could you post their websites? I did a search and could not find anything other than the stories from the AL Tribune.
Posted by ControlledHyperness on Jul. 09 2010,8:14 pm
I grabed the sites from their signs.Kindler:Kindlerforsheriff.com
Merkouris: Ryan4sheriff.com
Herig: dunno, but I am sure you can find it easily.
Johnson: only thing I have seen for him is the article in the paper and a sign on someone's lawn
Posted by usmcr on Jul. 09 2010,9:40 pm
Websites for sheriff candidates:< http://www.ryan4sheriff.com/ > ( Ryan Merkouris )
< http://kindlerforsheriff.com/ > (Bob Kindloer )
< http://www.markharig.com/ > ( Mark Harig
< http://www.marcjohnson2011.com/ > ( Marc Johnson )
Posted by Spidey on Jul. 09 2010,10:10 pm
Thank you both for the websites. It was kind of funny when I was searching for Ryan's site ... a website came up that said, "were you looking for Harig for Sheriff?" ... aggressive!!
Posted by Bluehosta on Jul. 10 2010,9:32 am
Looks like Harig called the jail and told 17 of them to start voting. Even though I've heard only "his" voting budies are the only ones saying the jailers jobs are in jeopardy.
Posted by Liberal on Jul. 10 2010,12:15 pm
It's sad that even a half dozen people would vote for that crook. If we had a real newspaper they would do some looking into the seizures this crook has made and essentially given away to his friends and family.
Posted by Bluehosta on Jul. 10 2010,4:58 pm
Wasn't it just last year that the seizures being missappropriated for personal use, came to light in St. Paul, MN?
Posted by hairhertz on Jul. 10 2010,7:27 pm
I am afraid to even comment about Harig, he has big ears and a long reach.
Posted by stpaulie on Jul. 10 2010,9:03 pm
I wouldn't vote for Ryan Merkouris. I remember when he and his wife ran the Bagels and Beans business ... they didn't get many customers once they started using moldy bread for their sandwiches. Gross. Seem to remember that they filed for bankruptcy a couple years ago, then not long after, built a brand new house. How would he be able to balance the county's budget, if he can't balance his own checkbook? Just a thought ...
I'd rather have someone who had years under their belt, and knew what they were doing. Someone who would go after the criminals, and who would raise money for the county. I know Nolander didn't do that.
Posted by gijoeman on Jul. 10 2010,9:45 pm
How would you raise money? Didn't know the police was open for bidness.
Posted by Bluehosta on Jul. 10 2010,10:47 pm
Benefit breakfasts used to be for the boy scouts, hockey boosters, people without health insurance, and the truely needy. Sheriff Harig seems to think the local government needs to get in the pancake breakfast buisness to raise money for his special interests and take away from the needy, and get his name mentioned as a big humanitarian.
Posted by Liberal on Jul. 11 2010,12:59 am
During elections we get a lot of 1 post members bashing candidates. 
Personally, I like the idea of a young sheriff, and I think it's great that they would run when they see how ugly Harig's crew can be. You know the ones, they usually walk in the parade for him. I was talking to a woman several years ago and she flat out told me that he offered her a dispatcher job if she would help him get re-elected.
Posted by gijoeman on Jul. 11 2010,1:29 am
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we get a lot of 1 post members bashing candidates
Like Blue above?
Posted by Liberal on Jul. 11 2010,2:03 am
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Wasn't it just last year that the seizures being missappropriated for personal use, came to light in St. Paul, MN?
Posted by Mamma on Jul. 11 2010,6:41 am
He didn't do his brother a favor on that one. I doubt if the money went into his pocket either. That refrigerated trailer was used for a meth lab, so it essentially was worth nothing. It would have had to be decontaminated, and that would have cost more than he paid for it. Maybe instead of raising money for things the department needed, he should have gone to the county board and they could have given the department money they didn't have. They seem to do that regularly. I guess it's damned if you do and damned if you don't.
Posted by alcitizens on Jul. 11 2010,11:39 am
County and City employees and their families should NEVER be allowed to buy confiscated property seized by the County or the City. This is a major Conflict of Interest that may result in falsified arrest records for their own personal gain. 
Is there any truth that Harig is allowed to use a motorcycle from Bergdale Harley-Davidson for free because he is the Sheriff? Good Law Enforcement ethics would say this is accepting gifts and not proper conduct..
Posted by Liberal on Jul. 11 2010,12:18 pm
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He didn't do his brother a favor on that one. I doubt if the money went into his pocket either.
I wish I was treated so poorly by my brother.
I wonder how many of those metro cops sold their family discounted merchandise like that.
It's not like the trailer is the only problems with the seizures. He's got a truck that he keeps at his house for Sheriff department employees to use, he's got a seized Harley that he claims to be purchasing from Freeborn County on a payment plan, a forfeited SUV, and a sedan that were all seized and were never auctioned off since he's using them.
Posted by gijoeman on Jul. 11 2010,12:49 pm
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That refrigerated trailer was used for a meth lab, so it essentially was worth nothing. It would have had to be decontaminated
Really? And do you suppose his brother had a hazmat team come and detox da truck?
What a load of bull. The same chemicals to make meth are hauled all over the country everyday in all kinds of vehicles. Now we have the citizens backing up and supporting forfeitures that are sold to family members because THIS one wasn't about $$$...ya right. 
Posted by Liberal on Jul. 11 2010,1:01 pm
Here's the documents from the trailer deal. It looks like Kindler handled the paperwork for the deal.< http://www.albertlea.com/forum/trailer.pdf >
Posted by Mamma on Jul. 11 2010,1:24 pm
Oh gigoeman....If it's not rocket surgery, is it brain science?
Posted by alcitizens on Jul. 11 2010,2:09 pm
Cheapest Reefer Trailor I found was $3,750. Pressure wash the inside and make some bucks.. This policy should be changed by the City and County because it makes them look like crooks..
This one is a 1991 Fruehauf Reefer Trailer
< http://www.trucker.com/Trailers.aspx?subcategory=Reefer >
Posted by busybee on Jul. 11 2010,3:13 pm
This is all the same stuff that was hashed over on here before the last election and Harig won anyway.
Posted by gijoeman on Jul. 11 2010,3:30 pm
From "oldbadge" earlier in the thread. QUOTE
I guess this primary will be just one example of how much "change" the residents of Freeborn County really want.. Your votes will decide what kind of enforcement you get..
Well there you have it folks. An old badge telling you that your sheriff and new sheriff are really corrupt bastards that'll enforce the law how THEY see fit. Old badge is right of course.
Posted by The Rocket on Jul. 11 2010,3:56 pm
This thread is suppose to help us decide who should get our vote for sheriff. I would like to have facts that can be verified or authenticated by a county administration finanance employee. There have been a lot of numbers thrown out in the newspaper and on this forum. We all know what figures do. There are a few questions that I would like answered to make an informed decision. Why is the investigation into the missing money from the jail taking so long? Tuttle has already been in front of a judge. The talk of all the income from the jail has never been acompanied with the expenses of the jail. Somewhere in the county finance system there has to be an actual per cost per bed dollar amount. This report needs to include building expenses including utilities, wear, salaries, overtime pay, meals, etc. If more prisioners are going through then the facility will wear out quicker and cost more than expected when designed. If no report exists then there should be an external audit rather quickly so we all know. We also need to know what it is costing us to house our prisioners out of county and transportation costs. Mentioning transportation costs. I believe part of the ICE contract included transportation. Is that a money maker also? We don't need a spin from a commissioner we need facts.
We keep hearing on how the new radio system is going to help with accidents, fires and disasters. Is the August time frame for operation on track and on budget? After each event we hear how it would have helped but no updates on installation progress. If it is not on time is the stretched out time going to cause outdated equipment and programs going to cause extra expense?
When I was on a community committee looking at lowering budgets there were a few departments that had to submit annual reports to the board that included all of the money coming into and out of the department. These reports showed all of the federal, state, local, fees, etc. incomes and all of all the expenses paid out. If needed the dollars could be tracked who, when and where. Why doesn't the sheriff have to have a report like this so questions could be quickly addressed? Anything to hide?
Law Enforcement has changed alot since the Holly Laak and even Nolander days. The jail was just a few cells and the sheriff's wife cooked the meals. Todays Law Enforcement department is a large tax burden on the few tax payers we have. A good law enforcement officer is not as important (that is why you hire qualified deputies and jailers) as being a good manager of resources they have. This includes money, people, equipment and volunteers. The sheriff needs to actively reduce costs, put more officers on the street and be in charge during disasters.
Next time you see one of the candidates on the street don't asked what has been done in the past but what can you do for MY future. Don't be afraid to ask pointed questions.
Posted by Oldbadge on Jul. 11 2010,4:06 pm
Now you get my drift gijoeman! Yes, the legislature enacts the laws, but the Sheriff will decide what his departments priorities will be. If you don't like the priorities, vote for someone else. The Deputies perform their duties under the direction of the Sheriff. Being a Deputy has gotta be a tough job, worrying about job security every four years!!
Posted by gijoeman on Jul. 11 2010,4:25 pm
Yes, all good points. The sheriff is really a public resource manager in this world. Trouble is, is that all these guys wanna do is create fear and then hire more cops and use even more resources. This seems to be the primary directive.
Posted by Oldbadge on Jul. 11 2010,5:19 pm
I was always a believer in fair and impartial enforcement. I don't believe I've ever heard those words used by any candidate for a long, long time.. Officer discretion was just that, the decision on what took place was left to the officer. For many people (violators) a good old fashioned butt chewing would work wonders versus getting a citation. The demand for revenue pretty much killed that art form,and the respect that many Officers in this area had actually earned over the years. The times? They do change, and not necessarily for the better..
Posted by Bluehosta on Jul. 11 2010,5:25 pm
I talked with my father. He can remember Laak wanting a new radio system for the Sheriff's Office he built during his administration, so they could all communicate in case of emergency. Then he says Nolander wanted a new radio system so they could all communicate in an emergency. Now we need another radio system so we can all communicate in an emergency. Was there a lot of non communication in the last emergency? Time goes on and we need updates, but everyone goes to cell phones for secrecy, and they all have the same frequencies on the radios already. Do we need new radios, I don't know, and I don't know who to believe, even after I ask. Does there seem to be excessive spending compared to population and taxes taken in?Yes. And what study showed we needed this jail? How many prisoners would Freeborn County have today, if they were incarcerated here? Our movement in this country should be for alterantive forms of punishment. Not to long ago, the Police Cheif said that he thought law enforcement in the area is less busy becasue we have less population and especially less at the offender age. You can get back your say in government by showing you want change in representation. You have three other canidates this time, change is good.
Posted by alcitizens on Jul. 11 2010,6:00 pm
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The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) has mandated that all non-Federal public safety licensees using 25 kHz radio systems migrate to narrowband 12.5 kHz channels by January 1, 2013.
This is reason for the radio upgrade..
Less population should mean less law enforcement..
Posted by usmcr on Jul. 11 2010,8:26 pm
population of freeborn county:1900 - 21838
1910 - 22282
1920 - 24692
1930 - 28741
1940 - 31780
1950 - 34517
1960 - 37891
1970 - 38064
1980 - 36329
1990 - 33060
2000 - 32584
2006 - 31636
2008 - 30927
freeborn county is in a steady decline since 1970. the population of freeborn county is about what it was in 1940!
city of albert lea population:
1890 - 3305
1900 - 4500
1910 - 6192
1920 - 8056
1930 - 10169
1940 - 12200
1950 - 13545
1960 - 17108
1970 - 19418
1980 - 19200
1990 - 18310
2000 - 18356
here is some interesting statistics:
Albert Lea
* Population: 18,356
** Manufacturing Wages Paid: $19.7 million
Faribault
Population: 20,818
Manufacturing Wages Paid: $24.4 million
Mankato
Population: 32,427
Manufacturing Wages Paid: $30.3 million
Owatonna
Population: 22,434
Manufacturing Wages Paid: $61.7 million
* Population figures are from the year 2000.
** Manufacturing wages paid are as of second quarter, 2006.
Posted by gijoeman on Jul. 11 2010,9:14 pm
We need 140 bed minimum security prison downtown and all new courthouses! We need to triple property taxes! We need more police, that why we choose to live in a small town! We need to pay Dan Dorman and Nolander and company a quarter million a year to build empty buildings for us! We need, we NEED all we do is NEED NEED MORE MORE MORE! We Need to keep spending!
Posted by alcitizens on Jul. 11 2010,9:23 pm
(usmcr @ Jul. 11 2010,8:26 pm)
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Albert Lea
* Population: 18,356
* Population: 18,356
2008 city population estimate is 17,389
< http://www.albertleatribune.com/news...ion-est >
Posted by Mamma on Jul. 12 2010,6:11 am
The trailer that Pat Robertson had was a piece of junk. It wasn't a nice , well kept, unit. I doubt if the refrigeration part even worked. It was crap. And one other thing. Why does Gigoeman or whatever you call yourself now....why do you act like you actually pay taxes! You are so irate over ever decision made at local levels because it will make "your taxes" go up. Remember? you live off all the rest of us. And besides that, you have the nerve to pick on George...who actually has a job and makes a living. Owning a business is not a walk in the park.
Posted by Liberal on Jul. 12 2010,8:02 am
He was doing us a favor when the sheriff sold his brother a semi trailer for $100?
Posted by hairhertz on Jul. 12 2010,8:23 am
How is it legal for the sheriff to sell any of the confiscated items, let alone sell something to his brother?
Posted by proactive on Jul. 12 2010,8:49 am
(Liberal @ Jul. 09 2010,11:54 am)
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In about a month we will be voting in the primary, who will you vote for?
It sure would be great to see Harig voted out in the primary.
It sure would be great to see Harig voted out in the primary.
You've got that right Liberal, that's what a lot of people are hoping for. The only way it's going to happen is if more people get out and vote in the primary. Generally only 20% of the county vote in the primary.
Anyone can go vote absentee right now. Just go up to Dennis Distads office and cast your vote if you don't want to go to the polling place.
Posted by ControlledHyperness on Jul. 12 2010,10:24 am
^^but if you look at the poll results HERE, Harig will be IN the race. I am interested to know why people think Kindler will be a better choice if he DID in fact help out with the supposed selloff of the trailer. Doesn't that then mean he was acting as either a front man or yes man, or is it that people are passing it off as he absolutely had no clue about it? IF he helped out with the supposed selloff, wouldn't that mean he has just about as much chance as being corrupt as his boss?
Posted by Bluehosta on Jul. 12 2010,10:46 am
I think Kindler was smart enough to keep records of what he was told to do.
Posted by ControlledHyperness on Jul. 12 2010,11:05 am
yes, but if he had absolutely NOTHING to do with the whole thing, he will need to prove it before primaries..or after. Meanwhile, the Chicago style of voting seems to be the thing for Harig, as it seems he is leading the poll here currently..
Posted by gijoeman on Jul. 12 2010,11:08 am
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Why does Gigoeman or whatever you call yourself now...why do you act like you actually pay taxes! You are so irate over ever decision made at local levels because it will make "your taxes" go up. Remember? you live off all the rest of us.
Huh? What, are you serious, or are you some kind of super retard? That's gotta be one of the dumbest things I've ever seen in print anywhere. I must be in Albert Lea. Let me get this straight, YOU'RE TELLING ME to remember I live in your made up fantasy world, the one that exists only in your own mind. You've already called the MC police over one member here. Keep your fantasies to yourself when it comes to me because you couldn't be further from the truth and stop calling the police about people you don't even know. You're nobodies saviour you old weirdo.
Posted by Mamma on Jul. 12 2010,11:17 am
Ooooops now you're getting delusional. I called the police on someone? Who is the nut here? Yes...you are in Albert Lea.
Posted by gijoeman on Jul. 12 2010,11:23 am
I don't pay taxes? And now now your a bold faced liar. You're on ignore. You're just an an ignorant, prejudiced old fart and yes you called the police on a member here. It was you and I've not mentioned it till you began telling purposeful lies about me You're on ignore you old fart. I'm not gonna argue with some retard liar who chooses to tell lies about me, someone they don't even know. Stop calling the police on people because your relative committed suicide.(who was it, your own sister?) You're not saving your relative by calling the police on other people you don't really know.
Posted by proactive on Jul. 12 2010,11:36 am
Kindler was simply "following orders". Harig bullys his staff horribly. Calling it "Chicago style" is right on the money. I was wondering why the Sheriff's Office is driving all these nice seized vehicles or selling them to "family members" instead of selling them at public auctions??
Posted by proactive on Jul. 12 2010,11:48 am
One more thing. There was a discussion earlier about the money missing from the Sheriff's office. There are different stories as to how much is missing. My question is why is it taking so long for someone to be charged or do we have another high stakes gambler in our midst? I here our Sheriff is at the Casino a lot.
Posted by gijoeman on Jul. 12 2010,11:50 am
Well, basically WE, the public have turned the police into gangsters. We allow them to seize for forfeiture money and property and much of it they can use as they see fit. The police are like a big legal gang now. We said, hey, you can steal stuff from druggies and other creeps and use it for yourself, because we hate druggies that much! If we let you keep their property maybe that will motivate you to bust more of them! We really shouldn't be surprised at what we see now should we?
Posted by badboy2 on Jul. 12 2010,2:38 pm
Who was the supervisor for the person that was to have taken all the money?? If she was working with the ICE people, would it not be the Sheriff that should be watching the books..!! 
Posted by hairhertz on Jul. 12 2010,6:03 pm
(gijoeman @ Jul. 12 2010,11:50 am)
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Well, basically WE, the public have turned the police into gangsters. We allow them to seize for forfeiture money and property and much of it they can use as they see fit. The police are like a big legal gang now. We said, hey, you can steal stuff from druggies and other creeps and use it for yourself, because we hate druggies that much! If we let you keep their property maybe that will motivate you to bust more of them! We really shouldn't be surprised at what we see now should we?
Gads, I totally agree with GIJoe.
Posted by TELLTHETRUTH on Jul. 12 2010,10:06 pm
Mark harig's website is < www.markharig.com >
Posted by TELLTHETRUTH on Jul. 12 2010,10:12 pm
Hey proactive, if the organization requires you to do the job you were hired to do, and you just wanted to skate on your laurels for time you worked there, and when you were repremanded for it would call your boss a gangster? What are the exact issues you base your statements on. Check your facts, and post real traceable quotes or just admit you like to gossip and provide wind.
Posted by Liberal on Jul. 12 2010,10:13 pm
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I have realized that there is a small amount of political opposition who will not conform or refuse to accept change at any measure. These employees are the group described in the 90-10 rule. 90% of your time is spent dealing with 10% of the employees who refuse to get on board or be satisfied with anything proposed. This ten percent are the personnel who refuse to accept leadership, to allow effective team work and most often lack self motivation to make any accomplishments of any degree.
So lets get rid of 10%, starting with Harig, and any of the unqualified people he gave jobs to.
Posted by Liberal on Jul. 12 2010,10:18 pm
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What are the exact issues you base your statements on. Check your facts, and post real traceable quotes or just admit you like to gossip and provide wind.
Probably a reference to Harig selling his brother a refrigerated trailer for $100
< http://www.albertlea.com/forum/trailer.pdf >
Posted by alcitizens on Jul. 13 2010,11:16 am
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In 2003, when I took office, I was approached about a demonstrator police motorcycle. I chose to demo a police motorcycle and discussed it with County Commissioners. It was decided that the cost of the motorcycle, insurance and county needs were not feasible for enforcement purposes.
From 2003 through 2007, demo motorcycles were provided to Freeborn County Sheriff’s Office as a courtesy from the dealership. No costs were passed on to the county. The dealership provided insurance coverage for operation of the cycle. The motorcycle was used for parades, meetings and general use, funeral escorts and escorting the “Festival of Bands” participants and was not deployed for traffic enforcement. The motorcycle provided great public relations for Freeborn County Sheriff’s Office.
< http://www.markharig.com/My-Motorcycle.php >
From 2003 through 2007, demo motorcycles were provided to Freeborn County Sheriff’s Office as a courtesy from the dealership. No costs were passed on to the county. The dealership provided insurance coverage for operation of the cycle. The motorcycle was used for parades, meetings and general use, funeral escorts and escorting the “Festival of Bands” participants and was not deployed for traffic enforcement. The motorcycle provided great public relations for Freeborn County Sheriff’s Office.
< http://www.markharig.com/My-Motorcycle.php >
So gifts were being accepted by Sheriff Harig. Its not about the cost, its about the lack of cost, a GIFT.
Can anyone go and get a Harley for a day of travel, for FREE?
Posted by Bluehosta on Jul. 13 2010,11:57 am
If you were an elected offical, why would you put yourself in a position that you were answering questions about a motorcycle??? None the less a WHOLE page on your website. Your choice should have been NO, I cannot do that. I cannot ride that motorcyle on rallies, on fund raisers, on parades, or just anytime I felt like I could justify it. It was used to further his career and public exposure twards his popularity which ultimately is for his personal gain. Remember the guy who was let out of jail to make pancakes. Why? Where is he today?
Posted by alcitizens on Jul. 13 2010,12:12 pm
Harig took gifts for personal gain.. 
Posted by hairhertz on Jul. 13 2010,2:45 pm
(TELLTHETRUTH @ Jul. 12 2010,10:06 pm)
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Mark harig's website is < www.markharig.com >
The site sure is pretty and glitzy with lots of nouns proclaiming the sheriff's qualities.
Posted by ControlledHyperness on Jul. 13 2010,4:01 pm
It also has an undercurrent of slamming those opposing him...
Posted by busybee on Jul. 13 2010,5:10 pm
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Remember the guy who was let out of jail to make pancakes. Why? Where is he today?
I remember hearing about it, yes.
Why?
I concluded it was more than likely because he was in custody on a domestic violence crime.
In my opinion if it was guy in custody for an illegal drug crime or an ICE inmate, they wouldn't have gotten the special privilege.
Posted by hairhertz on Jul. 13 2010,5:33 pm
(ControlledHyperness @ Jul. 13 2010,4:01 pm)
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It also has an undercurrent of slamming those opposing him...
BINGO
[not to mention rampant egomania]
Posted by Liberal on Jul. 13 2010,5:49 pm
From the State Auditor's April Newsletter...QUOTE
5. Avoiding Pitfalls: Sale of Public Property to Public Officers and Employees
Generally, political subdivisions may not sell property or materials owned by the political subdivision to its officers or employees.
The relevant statute, Minn. Stat. § 15.054, contains an exception to this general prohibition for employees, but not for officers, if the property or materials are no longer needed by the political subdivision and the sale is made after reasonable public notice (at least one week’s published notice) at a public auction or by sealed bids. To qualify for the exception, the employee must not be directly involved in the auction or the sealed bid process. The general prohibition also does not apply to property or materials acquired or produced by the political subdivision for sale to the general public in the ordinary course of business.
A separate law, Minn. Stat. § 382.18, prohibits county officials and employees, and commissioners of tax-forfeited lands and their assistants, from purchasing any property, real or personal, from the county. In a 1979 opinion, the Attorney General’s Office stated that, notwithstanding the prohibitions of this statute, county employees may purchase county property if the requirements of Minn. Stat. § 15.054 are satisfied.
< http://www.osa.state.mn.us/other/eupdate/eupdate_100430.pdf >
Did I hear that the Sheriff is purchasing a seized Harley? And that a seized truck sits next to his garage, like he owns it?
Posted by hairhertz on Jul. 13 2010,6:06 pm
(Liberal @ Jul. 13 2010,5:49 pm)
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From the State Auditor's April Newsletter...
5. Avoiding Pitfalls: Sale of Public Property to Public Officers and Employees
Generally, political subdivisions may not sell property or materials owned by the political subdivision to its officers or employees.
The relevant statute, Minn. Stat. § 15.054, contains an exception to this general prohibition for employees, but not for officers, if the property or materials are no longer needed by the political subdivision and the sale is made after reasonable public notice (at least one week’s published notice) at a public auction or by sealed bids. To qualify for the exception, the employee must not be directly involved in the auction or the sealed bid process. The general prohibition also does not apply to property or materials acquired or produced by the political subdivision for sale to the general public in the ordinary course of business.
A separate law, Minn. Stat. § 382.18, prohibits county officials and employees, and commissioners of tax-forfeited lands and their assistants, from purchasing any property, real or personal, from the county. In a 1979 opinion, the Attorney General’s Office stated that, notwithstanding the prohibitions of this statute, county employees may purchase county property if the requirements of Minn. Stat. § 15.054 are satisfied.
< http://www.osa.state.mn.us/other/eupdate/eupdate_100430.pdf >
Did I hear that the Sheriff is purchasing a seized Harley? And that a seized truck sits next to his garage, like he owns it?
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5. Avoiding Pitfalls: Sale of Public Property to Public Officers and Employees
Generally, political subdivisions may not sell property or materials owned by the political subdivision to its officers or employees.
The relevant statute, Minn. Stat. § 15.054, contains an exception to this general prohibition for employees, but not for officers, if the property or materials are no longer needed by the political subdivision and the sale is made after reasonable public notice (at least one week’s published notice) at a public auction or by sealed bids. To qualify for the exception, the employee must not be directly involved in the auction or the sealed bid process. The general prohibition also does not apply to property or materials acquired or produced by the political subdivision for sale to the general public in the ordinary course of business.
A separate law, Minn. Stat. § 382.18, prohibits county officials and employees, and commissioners of tax-forfeited lands and their assistants, from purchasing any property, real or personal, from the county. In a 1979 opinion, the Attorney General’s Office stated that, notwithstanding the prohibitions of this statute, county employees may purchase county property if the requirements of Minn. Stat. § 15.054 are satisfied.
< http://www.osa.state.mn.us/other/eupdate/eupdate_100430.pdf >
Did I hear that the Sheriff is purchasing a seized Harley? And that a seized truck sits next to his garage, like he owns it?
Couldn't be, the incumbant's website says one of his key attributes is his high standard of ethics.
Posted by alcitizens on Jul. 13 2010,6:34 pm
(Liberal @ Jul. 11 2010,12:18 pm)
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It's not like the trailer is the only problems with the seizures. He's got a truck that he keeps at his house for Sheriff department employees to use, he's got a seized Harley that he claims to be purchasing from Freeborn County on a payment plan, a forfeited SUV, and a sedan that were all seized and were never auctioned off since he's using them.
So I can still bid on these items at auction or is Harig's brother going to buy them from the county?
How much did he have to pay for the Harley and where is the paperwork? Where is the paperwork for the other vehicles?
Posted by busybee on Jul. 13 2010,7:20 pm
(Liberal @ Jul. 11 2010,12:18 pm)QUOTE
It's not like the trailer is the only problems with the seizures. He's got a truck that he keeps at his house for Sheriff department employees to use, he's got a seized Harley that he claims to be purchasing from Freeborn County on a payment plan, a forfeited SUV, and a sedan that were all seized and were never auctioned off since he's using them.
I remember you and I conversing about this on here in the past. If I'm not mistaken you've brought it up on here many more times than just then.
This seizure stuff seems to upset you quite a bit when it comes to Harig.
I completely understand feeling strongly about an issue that isn't fair or right when a person uses their power, control and/or authority at someone else's expense.
I am just curious, is it the illegal drug related property seizures that bothers you the most or the failure to follow policy procedures and this being allowed?
Don't assume that I am looking to argue with you about Harig because I only want to understand better.
Posted by busybee on Jul. 13 2010,7:39 pm
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Couldn't be, the incumbant's website says one of his key attributes is his high standard of ethics.
I also question the standard of ethics, even though the indecision and insecurity I have about Harig serving another Sheriff term isn't mostly about property seizure or even the budget.
And it makes me very sad to also know that children have learned to question this standard also, which has reflected on their belief and trust in local law enforcement in general.
Posted by MADDOG on Jul. 13 2010,7:59 pm
(alcitizens @ Jul. 13 2010,11:16 am)
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QUOTE
In 2003, when I took office, I was approached about a demonstrator police motorcycle. I chose to demo a police motorcycle and discussed it with County Commissioners. It was decided that the cost of the motorcycle, insurance and county needs were not feasible for enforcement purposes.
From 2003 through 2007, demo motorcycles were provided to Freeborn County Sheriff’s Office as a courtesy from the dealership. No costs were passed on to the county. The dealership provided insurance coverage for operation of the cycle. The motorcycle was used for parades, meetings and general use, funeral escorts and escorting the “Festival of Bands” participants and was not deployed for traffic enforcement. The motorcycle provided great public relations for Freeborn County Sheriff’s Office.
< http://www.markharig.com/My-Motorcycle.php >
From 2003 through 2007, demo motorcycles were provided to Freeborn County Sheriff’s Office as a courtesy from the dealership. No costs were passed on to the county. The dealership provided insurance coverage for operation of the cycle. The motorcycle was used for parades, meetings and general use, funeral escorts and escorting the “Festival of Bands” participants and was not deployed for traffic enforcement. The motorcycle provided great public relations for Freeborn County Sheriff’s Office.
< http://www.markharig.com/My-Motorcycle.php >
So gifts were being accepted by Sheriff Harig. Its not about the cost, its about the lack of cost, a GIFT.
Can anyone go and get a Harley for a day of travel, for FREE?
I understand the < Harley-Davidson lease program > is inexpensive.
Posted by alcitizens on Jul. 13 2010,8:36 pm
(Liberal @ Jul. 13 2010,5:49 pm)
QUOTE
From the State Auditor's April Newsletter...
5. Avoiding Pitfalls: Sale of Public Property to Public Officers and Employees
Generally, political subdivisions may not sell property or materials owned by the political subdivision to its officers or employees.
The relevant statute, Minn. Stat. § 15.054, contains an exception to this general prohibition for employees, but not for officers, if the property or materials are no longer needed by the political subdivision and the sale is made after reasonable public notice (at least one week’s published notice) at a public auction or by sealed bids. To qualify for the exception, the employee must not be directly involved in the auction or the sealed bid process. The general prohibition also does not apply to property or materials acquired or produced by the political subdivision for sale to the general public in the ordinary course of business.
A separate law, Minn. Stat. § 382.18, prohibits county officials and employees, and commissioners of tax-forfeited lands and their assistants, from purchasing any property, real or personal, from the county. In a 1979 opinion, the Attorney General’s Office stated that, notwithstanding the prohibitions of this statute, county employees may purchase county property if the requirements of Minn. Stat. § 15.054 are satisfied.
< http://www.osa.state.mn.us/other/eupdate/eupdate_100430.pdf >
Did I hear that the Sheriff is purchasing a seized Harley? And that a seized truck sits next to his garage, like he owns it?
QUOTE
5. Avoiding Pitfalls: Sale of Public Property to Public Officers and Employees
Generally, political subdivisions may not sell property or materials owned by the political subdivision to its officers or employees.
The relevant statute, Minn. Stat. § 15.054, contains an exception to this general prohibition for employees, but not for officers, if the property or materials are no longer needed by the political subdivision and the sale is made after reasonable public notice (at least one week’s published notice) at a public auction or by sealed bids. To qualify for the exception, the employee must not be directly involved in the auction or the sealed bid process. The general prohibition also does not apply to property or materials acquired or produced by the political subdivision for sale to the general public in the ordinary course of business.
A separate law, Minn. Stat. § 382.18, prohibits county officials and employees, and commissioners of tax-forfeited lands and their assistants, from purchasing any property, real or personal, from the county. In a 1979 opinion, the Attorney General’s Office stated that, notwithstanding the prohibitions of this statute, county employees may purchase county property if the requirements of Minn. Stat. § 15.054 are satisfied.
< http://www.osa.state.mn.us/other/eupdate/eupdate_100430.pdf >
Did I hear that the Sheriff is purchasing a seized Harley? And that a seized truck sits next to his garage, like he owns it?
Harig must be getting paid to store the vehicles at his place.
Posted by Liberal on Jul. 13 2010,8:43 pm
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I understand the Harley-Davidson lease program is inexpensive
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I chose to demo a police motorcycle and discussed it with County Commissioners.
There's a difference between a demo and a lease. I would think you'd know that.
Posted by MADDOG on Jul. 13 2010,9:10 pm
I do. If I remember correctly, years ago when Mark first started riding one, I think he told the commissioners that the police lease was for like a $1.00 and it was through H-D and he would pay it along with insurance and registrations.
Now it seems as though that has changed if his website is correct and he should carefully look at the < Minnesota Gift Ban to make sure he isn't in violation. >
Posted by alcitizens on Jul. 13 2010,9:47 pm
QUOTE
2009 Minnesota Statutes
10A.071 CERTAIN GIFTS BY LOBBYISTS AND PRINCIPALS PROHIBITED.
Subdivision 1.Definitions.(a) The definitions in this subdivision apply to this section.
"Gift" means money, real or personal property, a service, a loan, a forbearance or forgiveness of indebtedness, or a promise of future employment, that is given and received without the giver receiving consideration of equal or greater value in return.
"Official" means a public official, an employee of the legislature, or a local official of a metropolitan governmental unit.
< https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/?id=10A.071 >
10A.071 CERTAIN GIFTS BY LOBBYISTS AND PRINCIPALS PROHIBITED.
Subdivision 1.Definitions.(a) The definitions in this subdivision apply to this section.
"Gift" means money, real or personal property, a service, a loan, a forbearance or forgiveness of indebtedness, or a promise of future employment, that is given and received without the giver receiving consideration of equal or greater value in return.
"Official" means a public official, an employee of the legislature, or a local official of a metropolitan governmental unit.
< https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/?id=10A.071 >
Harig's website shows an admission of guilt..
Posted by The Rocket on Jul. 13 2010,10:35 pm
Was doing some reading of past tribune stories and came across this post in the story about the < sheriff worker. >QUOTE
Posted by armorandice (anonymous) on March 5, 2010 at 5:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)
someone should check on the where the buck should stop in the sheriff office. is it true the sheriff and his number 2 skipped out on some training and lost their peace officers license for a couple months. if it is true they collected a pay check for duties they were not licensed for. so why should some one lower down the chain be treated any different.
Should be easy for someone to check out.
Posted by Bluehosta on Jul. 14 2010,9:52 am
Check with what officers call the "Post Board", their licensing department in St. Paul, or the training officer for the Sheriff's Office. Rumor has it the Sheriff and Cheif Deputy left required education thinking the training officer was just going to sign off on their education for licensing and he wouldn't. They say the Sheriff was summoned to St. Paul to explain the indiscretion.
Posted by canvasback on Jul. 14 2010,9:57 am
P.O.S.T Board (Peace Officers Standards Test)
Posted by hairhertz on Jul. 14 2010,10:37 am
(Bluehosta @ Jul. 14 2010,9:52 am)
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Check with what officers call the "Post Board", their licensing department in St. Paul, or the training officer for the Sheriff's Office. Rumor has it the Sheriff and Cheif Deputy left required education thinking the training officer was just going to sign off on their education for licensing and he wouldn't. They say the Sheriff was summoned to St. Paul to explain the indiscretion.
None of THAT will never show up in the ALTribune.
Posted by alcitizens on Jul. 14 2010,4:14 pm
QUOTE
2009 Minnesota Statutes
471.895 CERTAIN GIFTS BY INTERESTED PERSONS PROHIBITED.
Subdivision 1.Definitions.(a) The definitions in this subdivision apply to this section.
(b) "Gift" has the meaning given it in section 10A.071, subdivision 1.
© "Interested person" means a person or a representative of a person or association that has a direct financial interest in a decision that a local official is authorized to make.
(d) "Local official" means an elected or appointed official of a county or city or of an agency, authority, or instrumentality of a county or city.
Subd. 2.Prohibition.An interested person may not give a gift or request another to give a gift to a local official. A local official may not accept a gift from an interested person.
< https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/?id=471.895&year=2009 >
471.895 CERTAIN GIFTS BY INTERESTED PERSONS PROHIBITED.
Subdivision 1.Definitions.(a) The definitions in this subdivision apply to this section.
(b) "Gift" has the meaning given it in section 10A.071, subdivision 1.
© "Interested person" means a person or a representative of a person or association that has a direct financial interest in a decision that a local official is authorized to make.
(d) "Local official" means an elected or appointed official of a county or city or of an agency, authority, or instrumentality of a county or city.
Subd. 2.Prohibition.An interested person may not give a gift or request another to give a gift to a local official. A local official may not accept a gift from an interested person.
< https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/?id=471.895&year=2009 >
QUOTE
2009 Minnesota Statutes
10A.071 CERTAIN GIFTS BY LOBBYISTS AND PRINCIPALS PROHIBITED.
Subdivision 1.Definitions.(a) The definitions in this subdivision apply to this section.
"Gift" means money, real or personal property, a service, a loan, a forbearance or forgiveness of indebtedness, or a promise of future employment, that is given and received without the giver receiving consideration of equal or greater value in return.
10A.071 CERTAIN GIFTS BY LOBBYISTS AND PRINCIPALS PROHIBITED.
Subdivision 1.Definitions.(a) The definitions in this subdivision apply to this section.
"Gift" means money, real or personal property, a service, a loan, a forbearance or forgiveness of indebtedness, or a promise of future employment, that is given and received without the giver receiving consideration of equal or greater value in return.
QUOTE
From 2003 through 2007, demo motorcycles were provided to Freeborn County Sheriff’s Office as a courtesy from the dealership. No costs were passed on to the county. The dealership provided insurance coverage for operation of the cycle. The motorcycle was used for parades, meetings and general use, funeral escorts and escorting the “Festival of Bands” participants and was not deployed for traffic enforcement. The motorcycle provided great public relations for Freeborn County Sheriff’s Office.
< http://www.markharig.com/My-Motorcycle.php >
< http://www.markharig.com/My-Motorcycle.php >
Bergdale Harley-Davidson benefited with the exposure of Law Enforcement using their Motorcycles and Sheriff Harig benefited with FREE use of a Motorcycle at the expense of Bergdale Harley-Davidson.
Sounds to me like a violation of the law. CERTAIN GIFTS BY INTERESTED PERSONS PROHIBITED
Posted by Amarilloslim on Jul. 14 2010,5:21 pm
I was not certain who I would vote for until I read the first post and other posts by Liberal. Based on those comments I'm going with Mark Harig.
Posted by ControlledHyperness on Jul. 14 2010,5:55 pm
^That is what he (Harig) is hoping for...that is part of the "Chicago politics" that I was talking about. I know already who I am going to vote for in the Primaries...and it wont be Harig or Kindler
Posted by gijoeman on Jul. 14 2010,6:09 pm
It's not OK to except gifts, However it IS OK to steal through forfeiture and then sell it to your family and friends for pennies on the dollar or use it yourself for free. The tribe has spoken and it said...steal from the low life's! Now go forth my law enforcement brethren and take what's rightfully yours and let the world be damned!
Posted by alcitizens on Jul. 15 2010,7:18 am
The law posted above could pertain to not only Harig, but Ellen Kehr also. She was gifted a job that pays nearly $50,000 a year by interested parties and in return she will try to force their agenda on the City Council. i.e. Bike Lanes!! Watch and see some of the bone headed idea's that will be brought before the Council over the next 2 years by way of Kehr or should I use what they say "the public requested".
Posted by badboy2 on Jul. 15 2010,2:28 pm
Just heard Kindler on KATE talking about saving us money. He is the first canidate that I have heard that from. In this economy, we need to save as much money as possible. a breath of fresh air.
Posted by Bluehosta on Jul. 15 2010,2:40 pm
SAVE MONEY. That is the best plan. When Sheriff Harig was elected, he requested a Chief Deputy. A position that hadn't been filled for at least 12 years. Then he made sure the position got Overtime, something that should have been salaried. Then he opted for a second Jail administrator, even before he had the ice contract. These two positions alone with benefits cost the tax payers close to $200,00.00. Its time to vote for the canidate that will cut costs and save money. Not go for more government grants and claim they don't cost anything. Vote for Kindler.
Posted by ControlledHyperness on Jul. 15 2010,4:10 pm
To be honest, both Kindler AND Merkouris have said on their websites that they plan to save money...the only difference being that Kindler isn't saying how...at least not until AFTER the Primaries. As I said before...looking at Harig, Kindler, and Merkouris via websites...what does one have that the other doesn't (aside from obvious misuse of people's trust in Harig)?? Seriously...try and step away from the hype, and look at it objectively, THEN answer...
Posted by Liberal on Jul. 15 2010,6:21 pm
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I was not certain who I would vote for until I read the first post and other posts by Liberal. Based on those comments I'm going with Mark Harig.
You're a liar, and a Harig supporter.
That's the oldest line there is in politics. I don't like the other guy's supporter, so I'm going to vote for the corrupt one instead.
Posted by busybee on Jul. 15 2010,10:00 pm
proactive...Jul. 12 2010,11:36 am QUOTE
Kindler was simply "following orders". Harig bullys his staff horribly. Calling it "Chicago style" is right on the money.
I believe Kindler was following orders.
I have been told similar to the same thing from some of the deputies that work under Harig. I don't really know what Chicago style is, so I tend to think of it more as a Good Ole' Boy style.
Not everyone who works under Harig agrees with intentional deviations of policies and/or procedures that apply to the laws that directs a law enforcement officer's duties.
Thus, since Harig has been Sheriff, it's been apparent to me that there has been a separation within the Sheriff's department of those who follow Harig's lead and those who want to do their job differently.
Granted, not everyone agrees with their boss 100% of the time...however, when it comes to public safety and well being, this separation serves no-one's best interest in Freeborn County.
Posted by Liberal on Jul. 15 2010,10:22 pm
Well, someone sent me the information on the trailer, so we know not everyone agrees with what he does.
Posted by busybee on Jul. 15 2010,10:41 pm
Bluehosta...Posted on Jul. 15 2010,2:40 pmQUOTE
SAVE MONEY. That is the best plan. When Sheriff Harig was elected, he requested a Chief Deputy. A position that hadn't been filled for at least 12 years. Then he made sure the position got Overtime, something that should have been salaried. Then he opted for a second Jail administrator, even before he had the ice contract. These two positions alone with benefits cost the tax payers close to $200,00.00.
I've heard the same type of assertions since Harig's been elected.
Posted by busybee on Jul. 15 2010,11:57 pm
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As I said before...looking at Harig, Kindler, and Merkouris via websites...what does one have that the other doesn't (aside from obvious misuse of people's trust in Harig)??
I looked at all three websites and there are couple of things that I noted of concern.
Of course, this is my opinion and no one else's, so it is what it is and no more than that.
First of all, both Harig and Merkouris mention a priority to addressing illegal drugs issues.
I'm personally not interested in more "special interest" paid to a specific crime more than another type of crime when it comes to law enforcement leadership in Freeborn County.
I noted the "right to bear arms" part of Harig's website.
Although Harig may truly have this belief without a hidden agenda, this reminds me of campaign targeting. I state this because of the people I know who ONLY vote republican because they've been told & conditioned to believe if they vote democrat, their right to bear arms according to the U.S. Constitution is at risk because "the democrats" WANT to take this right away.
Last, I noted that on Merkouris's web page it's not easy to figure the math for how many YEARS he's served as an law enforcement officer. I personally could care less how young he is because his being young in age and in the law enforcement field could be an issue of concern also. No one knows if and/or who he might be seeking advice from or following in his duties as a law enforcement officer currently or who he will turn to if he is elected as Sheriff.
Last, I would like to state that mistrust and/or lack of confidence in any law enforcement official is a HUGE issue that will negatively impact EVERYONE in a community/county.
QUOTE
Seriously...try and step away from the hype, and look at it objectively, THEN answer...
That's exactly what I'm trying to figure out.
For example, I would like to know and/or be informed why Kindler wouldn't be the best choice for Freeborn County based upon experience and work performance?
Posted by Far Out on Jul. 16 2010,1:39 am
(Liberal @ Jul. 15 2010,10:22 pm)
QUOTE
Well, someone sent me the information on the trailer, so we know not everyone agrees with what he does.
WTF? I know that my grandfather hired a russian hitman to kill my grandmothers bohemian lover. Backup your fiction with facts or its just a bunch of bullcrap.
Posted by busybee on Jul. 16 2010,7:22 am
Liberal @ Jul. 15 2010,10:22 pmQUOTE
Well, someone sent me the information on the trailer, so we know not everyone agrees with what he does.
I didn't think I was disputing this.
Posted by busybee on Jul. 16 2010,7:39 am
Far Out...Posted on Jul. 16 2010,1:39 amQUOTE
WTF? I know that my grandfather hired a russian hitman to kill my grandmothers bohemian lover. Backup your fiction with facts or its just a bunch of bullcrap.
Seriously?
What do you expect Liberal to prove?
Anyone can take the position you are knowing full well that it wouldn't be in Liberal's or his sources best interest to prove anymore than what's already been told/proven.
Posted by ControlledHyperness on Jul. 16 2010,11:36 am
QUOTE
Last, I noted that on Merkouris's web page it's not easy to figure the math for how many YEARS he's served as an law enforcement officer.
I ran a search on him via the Trib. I found articles going back to 2003 when he was an actual Sheriff's Deputy. I THINK that his service time actually goes back further then that (I want to say around 2000-ish), but it has been a month or so since I went through all the articles pertaining to him.
Posted by Liberal on Jul. 16 2010,12:30 pm
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WTF? I know that my grandfather hired a russian hitman to kill my grandmothers bohemian lover. Backup your fiction with facts or its just a bunch of bullcrap.
I can't stand when someone jumps in the middle of a topic and starts talking trash because they were too stupid to read the previous posts.
The sheriff sold his brother a seized refrigerated trailer for a semi. The sheriff had other people handle the paperwork, I'm assuming because he didn't want his name on the paperwork. One of those people knew how wrong this was so they sent me an envelope with all the paperwork.
I've posted this link at least a half dozen times, try reading a little before you start running your mouth.
< http://www.albertlea.com/forum/trailer.pdf >
Posted by Gabe on Jul. 16 2010,12:47 pm
You want facts......< http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/uproar....ic.html >
Posted by Bluehosta on Jul. 16 2010,1:02 pm
If needed Mr. Colstrup can be contacted at Stillwater State Prison to get his side of the story. It appears he won't get out this year to vote in the election.
Posted by Liberal on Jul. 16 2010,1:52 pm
Will they let him out to make pancakes like Harig did?
Posted by busybee on Jul. 17 2010,8:37 am
ControlledHyperness...Posted on Jul. 16 2010,11:36 amQUOTE
I ran a search on him via the Trib. I found articles going back to 2003 when he was an actual Sheriff's Deputy. I THINK that his service time actually goes back further then that (I want to say around 2000-ish), but it has been a month or so since I went through all the articles pertaining to him.
Thanks for trying to help figure it out.
Posted by Far Out on Jul. 17 2010,8:37 am
(Liberal @ Jul. 16 2010,12:30 pm)
QUOTE
QUOTE
WTF? I know that my grandfather hired a russian hitman to kill my grandmothers bohemian lover. Backup your fiction with facts or its just a bunch of bullcrap.
I can't stand when someone jumps in the middle of a topic and starts talking trash because they were too stupid to read the previous posts.
The sheriff sold his brother a seized refrigerated trailer for a semi. The sheriff had other people handle the paperwork, I'm assuming because he didn't want his name on the paperwork. One of those people knew how wrong this was so they sent me an envelope with all the paperwork.
I've posted this link at least a half dozen times, try reading a little before you start running your mouth.
< http://www.albertlea.com/forum/trailer.pdf >
Sorry I had a bad day and took it out on you.
Posted by busybee on Jul. 17 2010,9:14 am
Far Out...Posted on Jul. 16 2010,1:39 amQUOTE
Backup your fiction with facts or its just a bunch of bullcrap.
I know this is a dispute between you and Liberal and maybe I should have stayed out of it from the get go...so, I'm sorry to the both of you for speaking my mind.
I applaud and respect Liberal for not caving to the worry and concern that some have in naming and/or exposing public officials (publically) who are in a position of authority and have power and control over others and their safety and well being in the community.
QUOTE
Sorry I had a bad day and took it out on you.
That was decent of you to apologize to Liberal.
Posted by busybee on Jul. 17 2010,10:28 am
Gabe...Posted on Jul. 16 2010,12:47 pmQUOTE
You want facts...
< ]http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/uproar...ic.html
>[/QUOTE]< ]http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/uproar...ic.html
Although I applaud Liberal and any other in the community who question's Harig's financial responsibility and favoritism...this Domestic Violence case is a FACT that is MORE IMPORTANT for Freeborn County's Public to be aware of and PAY attention to than anything else.
Posted by alcitizens on Jul. 17 2010,11:20 am
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Judge: Sheriff never had permission
Freeborn County District Court Judge James Broberg said in an e-mail message last week that he requested Sheriff
Mark Harig to provide a written request for bringing county jail inmate James Colstrup to Masonic Lodge meetings.
The judge said he never received a written request from Harig. The sheriff, contacted Saturday, said he does not recall Broberg asking for a written request.
Colstrup’s case has been handled by two judges, Broberg and John Chesterman. Harig went on the radio and spoke with the Tribune on Monday of last week. He said he had permission from the two judges to take Colstrup to Masonic Lodge meetings. Chesterman was on vacation last week.
Harig that day sent an e-mail to Broberg about what he told the public.
Broberg’s e-mail message, sent Tuesday and provided to the Tribune Friday via a public-records request, is a response to Harig’s initial message. He said Harig met him in a garage at the county courthouse to ask about taking Colstrup to Masonic meetings.
“You informed me that the request for Mr. Colstrup had been presented to Judge Chesterman and he had made a request to have the request presented to me also as both of us had been involved in the cases Mr. Colstrup was serving time on. I left a note to myself of your request and that a written request would be submitted. I went on vacation shortly after and upon my return was advised of Judge Chesterman’s order. I checked Mr. Colstrup’s files and did not find any written request from you or the jail administration in his files. I then received Mr. Colstrup’s request for a hearing to permit him to have work release re-instated.”
In Harig’s reply to Broberg’s message, the sheriff apologizes: “I don’t recall any direction for written requests to be sent. I thought I had received approval from both judges or I would not have started this. My apology if I did not provide what was expected.”
Colstrup, a self-employed painter, is serving a 180-day sentences for domestic violence. The inmate has been at the center of a debate on policy for when prisoners are allowed out of jail.
The matter blew up Oct. 5, the first day of the Rendezvous, when people approached the sheriff about Colstrup being at the event. When Colstrup was there Oct. 6, county probation officer Andrea Hall, Rendezvous organizers and some others questioned the sheriff’s judgment. On Oct. 8 the sheriff allowed Colstrup to cook at a pancake breakfast held by the Masons. Colstrup and Harig are both Masons. It had been the third time Colstrup was allowed to attend Masonic functions.
On Oct. 13, while Broberg was on vacation, Chesterman ordered the sheriff to not allow Colstrup out for any reason except medical emergencies. When Broberg returned, he found a request from Colstrup to review his work-release status. Broberg set a date of Oct. 19.
At the court hearing, Broberg ordered the sheriff and his staff to not let Colstrup out of jail for reasons other than work releases. And the judge said the self-employed Colstrup must display contracts and show proof of his work time.
Harig said in court and repeated last week to the public via news media he had permission and said the Rendezvous was a legitimate work release. Hall and others said it wasn’t about whether Harig broke a law, the matter was about whether Harig gave a criminal preferential treatment and about following policy.
The county policy states to inmates: “You will be allowed to work one full-time job. Anyone working a full-time job will not be allowed to work a part-time job at the same time.”
Harig also said he wanted to provide a helpful environment for Colstrup, who took jail over treatment for alcohol dependency.
“I tried my best to help the guy,” Harig told the Tribune Saturday.
Broberg, in the e-mail, said it is usual to provide requests for changing the release conditions for prisoners in writing. This allows other parties to have input on the decision.
“I did not know anything about his being released to work on the pancake breakfast. I only knew about the short meetings he would participate in,” Broberg wrote.
Broberg said the files available to the public should match prisoners’ release conditions.
“Without the written request being filed with the court, there was no written amendment to the original sentencing order contained in the files affecting Mr. Colstrup. Anyone reviewing the public files would not find anything but the original order. Thus, the public perception appears to have endangered the concerns raised in the past week,” the judge wrote.
Monday, Oct. 23, 10:54 a.m., e-mail from Sheriff Mark Harig to Freeborn County District Court Judges John Chesterman and James Broberg:
I met with Albert Lea Tribune this morning regarding the news article on Jim Colstrup.
I told them that the article was not accurate.
I explained that I met with Judge Chesterman about taking Colstrup to meetings to encourage him toward alcohol treatment in a positive supervised setting.
I explained that I also met with Judge Broberg and requested to do this also.
I advised that I had received permission from both judges before he was taken to any meetings.
I think that this news story was very inaccurate in that:
I had permission to take him out of jail.
He had not violated Huber work release.
He had not violated any OFP [order for protection] conditions.
I respect other’s concerns, but there was no intent to allow him to avoid jail time, responsibility for his violations or not disrespect of victims of abuse was ever intended.
Mark Harig, sheriff
Tuesday, Oct. 24, 3:16 p.m., e-mail from Judge Broberg to Sheriff Harig:
Sheriff Harig:
Thank you for sending me a summary of your meeting with the Albert Lea Tribune. Judge Chesterman is on vacation. Since it appears that there is a need to provide an accurate account of what transpired, I am sending you a summary of what was the process, as I understand, that is now being questioned and examined by the public.
You contacted me in the garage at the Government Center. You informed me that the request for Mr. Colstrup had been presented to Judge Chesterman and he had made a request to have the request presented to me also as both of us had been involved in the cases Mr. Colstrup was serving time on. I left a note to myself of your request and that a written request would be submitted. I went on vacation shortly after and upon my return was advised of Judge Chesterman’s order. I checked Mr. Colstrup’s files and did not find any written request from you or the jail administration in his files. I then received Mr. Colstrup’s request for a hearing to permit him to have work release re-instated.
At our conversation in the garage, you told me that Mr. Colstrup would be supervised by you personally at the meetings. You also told me that Mr. Colstrup would be working on the STS [Sentenced to Service] crew or would be supervised while doing work for the County of Freeborn, such as painting, which is his primary job as a self-employed painter.
I advised you to file the usual written request for an amendment to the sentencing order on file with the court administration. With your commitment to personally supervise Mr. Colstrup to these short periods, I would approve. This was to be done because the sentencing order only allowed for work release or STS. The sentencing order had to be amended and this is normally accomplished with a written request or special appearance in court. As I understood, the request for Mr. Colstrup to attend Masonic meetings was based on your plan to assist him in developing a support group to aid him in confronting his chemical dependency issues. I did not know anything about his being released to work on the pancake breakfast. I only knew about the short meetings he would participate in. As I understand, from the hearing, you were personally present to supervise Mr. Colstrup on any occasion he was not incarcerated and attended Masonic meetings. If not, then your usual procedure would be to have a deputy present supervising Mr. Colstrup.
The court, probation and you have cooperated in the past to make arrangements for release for treatment of individuals who are incarcerated when treatment programs recommend the necessity for attendance. Your jail administration has encouraged in jail AA and NA programs along with religious services. These are good programs and the new jail facility promotes and encourages the participation by inmates. When these special releases are requested, treatment agencies recommendations accompany the request to amend the sentencing order.
Without the written request being filed with the court, there was no written amendment to the original sentencing order contained in the files affecting Mr. Colstrup. Anyone reviewing the public files would not find anything but the original order. Thus, the public perception appears to have endangered the concerns raised in the past week.
If you wish, I will submit to the Tribune this e-mail so that any questions as to what happened can be answered.
James E. Broberg
District Judge
Tuesday, Oct. 24, 3:40 p.m., e-mail from Sheriff Harig to Judge Broberg:
I spoke with each of you personally and felt that I had been given authorization to take him to meetings with my supervision.
I don’t recall any direction for written requests to be sent. I thought I had received approval from both judges or I would not have started this. My apology if I did not provide what was expected.
Mark Harig
Tuesday, Oct. 24, 4:18 p.m., e-mail from Judge Broberg to Sheriff Harig:
You’re welcome. Let me know if there is anything else that I can do.
JEB
< http://www.albertleatribune.com/news...mission >
Freeborn County District Court Judge James Broberg said in an e-mail message last week that he requested Sheriff
Mark Harig to provide a written request for bringing county jail inmate James Colstrup to Masonic Lodge meetings.
The judge said he never received a written request from Harig. The sheriff, contacted Saturday, said he does not recall Broberg asking for a written request.
Colstrup’s case has been handled by two judges, Broberg and John Chesterman. Harig went on the radio and spoke with the Tribune on Monday of last week. He said he had permission from the two judges to take Colstrup to Masonic Lodge meetings. Chesterman was on vacation last week.
Harig that day sent an e-mail to Broberg about what he told the public.
Broberg’s e-mail message, sent Tuesday and provided to the Tribune Friday via a public-records request, is a response to Harig’s initial message. He said Harig met him in a garage at the county courthouse to ask about taking Colstrup to Masonic meetings.
“You informed me that the request for Mr. Colstrup had been presented to Judge Chesterman and he had made a request to have the request presented to me also as both of us had been involved in the cases Mr. Colstrup was serving time on. I left a note to myself of your request and that a written request would be submitted. I went on vacation shortly after and upon my return was advised of Judge Chesterman’s order. I checked Mr. Colstrup’s files and did not find any written request from you or the jail administration in his files. I then received Mr. Colstrup’s request for a hearing to permit him to have work release re-instated.”
In Harig’s reply to Broberg’s message, the sheriff apologizes: “I don’t recall any direction for written requests to be sent. I thought I had received approval from both judges or I would not have started this. My apology if I did not provide what was expected.”
Colstrup, a self-employed painter, is serving a 180-day sentences for domestic violence. The inmate has been at the center of a debate on policy for when prisoners are allowed out of jail.
The matter blew up Oct. 5, the first day of the Rendezvous, when people approached the sheriff about Colstrup being at the event. When Colstrup was there Oct. 6, county probation officer Andrea Hall, Rendezvous organizers and some others questioned the sheriff’s judgment. On Oct. 8 the sheriff allowed Colstrup to cook at a pancake breakfast held by the Masons. Colstrup and Harig are both Masons. It had been the third time Colstrup was allowed to attend Masonic functions.
On Oct. 13, while Broberg was on vacation, Chesterman ordered the sheriff to not allow Colstrup out for any reason except medical emergencies. When Broberg returned, he found a request from Colstrup to review his work-release status. Broberg set a date of Oct. 19.
At the court hearing, Broberg ordered the sheriff and his staff to not let Colstrup out of jail for reasons other than work releases. And the judge said the self-employed Colstrup must display contracts and show proof of his work time.
Harig said in court and repeated last week to the public via news media he had permission and said the Rendezvous was a legitimate work release. Hall and others said it wasn’t about whether Harig broke a law, the matter was about whether Harig gave a criminal preferential treatment and about following policy.
The county policy states to inmates: “You will be allowed to work one full-time job. Anyone working a full-time job will not be allowed to work a part-time job at the same time.”
Harig also said he wanted to provide a helpful environment for Colstrup, who took jail over treatment for alcohol dependency.
“I tried my best to help the guy,” Harig told the Tribune Saturday.
Broberg, in the e-mail, said it is usual to provide requests for changing the release conditions for prisoners in writing. This allows other parties to have input on the decision.
“I did not know anything about his being released to work on the pancake breakfast. I only knew about the short meetings he would participate in,” Broberg wrote.
Broberg said the files available to the public should match prisoners’ release conditions.
“Without the written request being filed with the court, there was no written amendment to the original sentencing order contained in the files affecting Mr. Colstrup. Anyone reviewing the public files would not find anything but the original order. Thus, the public perception appears to have endangered the concerns raised in the past week,” the judge wrote.
Monday, Oct. 23, 10:54 a.m., e-mail from Sheriff Mark Harig to Freeborn County District Court Judges John Chesterman and James Broberg:
I met with Albert Lea Tribune this morning regarding the news article on Jim Colstrup.
I told them that the article was not accurate.
I explained that I met with Judge Chesterman about taking Colstrup to meetings to encourage him toward alcohol treatment in a positive supervised setting.
I explained that I also met with Judge Broberg and requested to do this also.
I advised that I had received permission from both judges before he was taken to any meetings.
I think that this news story was very inaccurate in that:
I had permission to take him out of jail.
He had not violated Huber work release.
He had not violated any OFP [order for protection] conditions.
I respect other’s concerns, but there was no intent to allow him to avoid jail time, responsibility for his violations or not disrespect of victims of abuse was ever intended.
Mark Harig, sheriff
Tuesday, Oct. 24, 3:16 p.m., e-mail from Judge Broberg to Sheriff Harig:
Sheriff Harig:
Thank you for sending me a summary of your meeting with the Albert Lea Tribune. Judge Chesterman is on vacation. Since it appears that there is a need to provide an accurate account of what transpired, I am sending you a summary of what was the process, as I understand, that is now being questioned and examined by the public.
You contacted me in the garage at the Government Center. You informed me that the request for Mr. Colstrup had been presented to Judge Chesterman and he had made a request to have the request presented to me also as both of us had been involved in the cases Mr. Colstrup was serving time on. I left a note to myself of your request and that a written request would be submitted. I went on vacation shortly after and upon my return was advised of Judge Chesterman’s order. I checked Mr. Colstrup’s files and did not find any written request from you or the jail administration in his files. I then received Mr. Colstrup’s request for a hearing to permit him to have work release re-instated.
At our conversation in the garage, you told me that Mr. Colstrup would be supervised by you personally at the meetings. You also told me that Mr. Colstrup would be working on the STS [Sentenced to Service] crew or would be supervised while doing work for the County of Freeborn, such as painting, which is his primary job as a self-employed painter.
I advised you to file the usual written request for an amendment to the sentencing order on file with the court administration. With your commitment to personally supervise Mr. Colstrup to these short periods, I would approve. This was to be done because the sentencing order only allowed for work release or STS. The sentencing order had to be amended and this is normally accomplished with a written request or special appearance in court. As I understood, the request for Mr. Colstrup to attend Masonic meetings was based on your plan to assist him in developing a support group to aid him in confronting his chemical dependency issues. I did not know anything about his being released to work on the pancake breakfast. I only knew about the short meetings he would participate in. As I understand, from the hearing, you were personally present to supervise Mr. Colstrup on any occasion he was not incarcerated and attended Masonic meetings. If not, then your usual procedure would be to have a deputy present supervising Mr. Colstrup.
The court, probation and you have cooperated in the past to make arrangements for release for treatment of individuals who are incarcerated when treatment programs recommend the necessity for attendance. Your jail administration has encouraged in jail AA and NA programs along with religious services. These are good programs and the new jail facility promotes and encourages the participation by inmates. When these special releases are requested, treatment agencies recommendations accompany the request to amend the sentencing order.
Without the written request being filed with the court, there was no written amendment to the original sentencing order contained in the files affecting Mr. Colstrup. Anyone reviewing the public files would not find anything but the original order. Thus, the public perception appears to have endangered the concerns raised in the past week.
If you wish, I will submit to the Tribune this e-mail so that any questions as to what happened can be answered.
James E. Broberg
District Judge
Tuesday, Oct. 24, 3:40 p.m., e-mail from Sheriff Harig to Judge Broberg:
I spoke with each of you personally and felt that I had been given authorization to take him to meetings with my supervision.
I don’t recall any direction for written requests to be sent. I thought I had received approval from both judges or I would not have started this. My apology if I did not provide what was expected.
Mark Harig
Tuesday, Oct. 24, 4:18 p.m., e-mail from Judge Broberg to Sheriff Harig:
You’re welcome. Let me know if there is anything else that I can do.
JEB
< http://www.albertleatribune.com/news...mission >
It just slipped Harig's mind after working at the sheriffs department for 33 years. Some just don't handle being in a position of authority.
I call it the "God Complex".
< http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_complex >
Posted by Bluehosta on Jul. 17 2010,12:59 pm
wouldn't it be refreshing to have the Sheriff say," I am the Sheriff, I am responsible, I am respnsible for my mistakes, I am responsible for the mistakes made by my department, I cannot make any excuse for my mistake." ON his web page he is blaming the "10" percent, who question his mistakes, and trys to blame them. i. e. "I have realized that there is a small amount of political opposition who will not conform or refuse to accept change at any measure. These employees are the group described in the 90-10 rule. 90% of your time is spent dealing with 10% of the employees who refuse to get on board or be satisfied with anything proposed. This ten percent are the personnel who refuse to accept leadership, to allow effective team work and most often lack self motivation to make any accomplishments of any degree. " I think its really closer to 90 percent political oposition and 10 percent follow him.
Posted by gijoeman on Jul. 17 2010,1:24 pm
Who wouldn't wanna be Sheriff? Great pay, a license to steal through forfeiture and more power than you can possibly flaunt.
Posted by gijoeman on Jul. 17 2010,3:03 pm
Mark my words. The candidate who wins Sheriff will be the one who proclaims the war on the drugs the loudest. The Albert Lea Tribune will back that candidate fully and Albert Lea voters are easily led and they've been led to believe God wants them to punish drug users. Only certain users though. For instance we must leave the the Jesus Juice users alone and view it not as drugs but as a good God approved drug. That's the way God would want it.
God and his son Jesus want pudgy, bowl-cut haircuts on Sheriffs and he wants pot dopers and Mexicans behind bars where they belong! It's simply Gods will people!
...we are a town of Breezes and we shouldn't expect anything else...
Posted by Amarilloslim on Jul. 17 2010,5:08 pm
Liar is a strong statement, being I was being truthful. I had no idea who to vote for until I started following this thread. I had a very nice talk with another candidate's campaign worker and I think I changed my mind. He was very knowlegeable and presented some thought provoking questions. Unlike some of the comments I see here.
Posted by hairhertz on Jul. 17 2010,5:47 pm
(Amarilloslim @ Jul. 17 2010,5:08 pm)
QUOTE
Liar is a strong statement, being I was being truthful. I had no idea who to vote for until I started following this thread. I had a very nice talk with another candidate's campaign worker and I think I changed my mind. He was very knowlegeable and presented some thought provoking questions. Unlike some of the comments I see here.
Please enlighten us so we don't continue to harbor ignorant opinions in the matter of who should be our next sheriff.
Posted by ann2000 on Jul. 17 2010,7:24 pm
Marc Johnson's Website: < www.marcjohnson2011.com >
Posted by alcitizens on Jul. 17 2010,9:45 pm
Are there Quotas that are set by the Sheriff? A certain amount of stops required each month or each week? A certain amount of revenue that is required by patrol and investigators each month or each week?I find that the use of a flash bang grenade and search warrant abuses by law enforcement is out of control.. Is falsified evidence being given to the judges that approve those search warrants? Hint: No Guns Found..
No notice by the Tribune if any arrests were ever made..< http://www.albertleatribune.com/news/2009/sep/28/guns-reported-stolen/ >
Posted by gijoeman on Jul. 18 2010,3:44 am
QUOTE
Are there Quotas that are set by the Sheriff?
Why are you asking such a dumb question? Are you really that stupid.
Posted by alcitizens on Jul. 18 2010,8:05 am
I thought ann2000 might be able to give us some insight of what goes on at that fancy law enforcement center until you started asking stupid questions.
Posted by Liberal on Jul. 18 2010,5:09 pm
(Amarilloslim @ Jul. 14 2010,5:21 pm)
QUOTE
I was not certain who I would vote for until I read the first post and other posts by Liberal. Based on those comments I'm going with Mark Harig.
QUOTE
I had no idea who to vote for until I started following this thread.
So was it my first post, and my other posts? Or was in when you started "following the thread"?
I still say you're a liar, and a Harig supporter. Anyone that would be "following this thread" wouldn't think Harig was the best choice. It's not like a bunch of rumors, like we hear from his side, we actually have documents to back up what we say.
So when do you Harig supporters plan to start throwing around the rumors about the other candidates having affairs?
Posted by pantalonesverdes on Jul. 18 2010,8:26 pm
(alcitizens @ Jul. 17 2010,10:45 pm)
QUOTE
Are there Quotas that are set by the Sheriff? A certain amount of stops required each month or each week? A certain amount of revenue that is required by patrol and investigators each month or each week?
I find that the use of a flash bang grenade and search warrant abuses by law enforcement is out of control.. Is falsified evidence being given to the judges that approve those search warrants? Hint: No Guns Found.. No notice by the Tribune if any arrests were ever made..
< http://www.albertleatribune.com/news/2009/sep/28/guns-reported-stolen/ >
I find that the use of a flash bang grenade and search warrant abuses by law enforcement is out of control.. Is falsified evidence being given to the judges that approve those search warrants? Hint: No Guns Found..
No notice by the Tribune if any arrests were ever made..< http://www.albertleatribune.com/news/2009/sep/28/guns-reported-stolen/ >
Seriously, try do some research.
< https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/?id=169.985 >
Posted by Bluehosta on Jul. 18 2010,9:01 pm
(pantalonesverdes @ Jul. 18 2010,8:26 pm)
QUOTE
(alcitizens @ Jul. 17 2010,10:45 pm)
QUOTE
Are there Quotas that are set by the Sheriff? A certain amount of stops required each month or each week? A certain amount of revenue that is required by patrol and investigators each month or each week?
I find that the use of a flash bang grenade and search warrant abuses by law enforcement is out of control.. Is falsified evidence being given to the judges that approve those search warrants? Hint: No Guns Found.. No notice by the Tribune if any arrests were ever made..
< http://www.albertleatribune.com/news/2009/sep/28/guns-reported-stolen/ >
I find that the use of a flash bang grenade and search warrant abuses by law enforcement is out of control.. Is falsified evidence being given to the judges that approve those search warrants? Hint: No Guns Found..
No notice by the Tribune if any arrests were ever made..< http://www.albertleatribune.com/news/2009/sep/28/guns-reported-stolen/ >
Seriously, try do some research.
< https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/?id=169.985 >
I was told, there is an exception. That a person should look into the instructions of required "contacts" when they run special projects which are funded by Federal Grants, i. e. seat belt enforcement, DWI sweeps, etc. The more contacts they get, the better it looks for the next grant. Contacts of course are not arrests or citations, but your life gets interferred with to make a required number.
Posted by busybee on Jul. 18 2010,10:32 pm
Bluehosta...Posted on: Jul. 16 2010,1:02 pm QUOTE
If needed Mr. Colstrup can be contacted at Stillwater State Prison to get his side of the story. It appears he won't get out this year to vote in the election.
I thought Stillwater State Prison in MN is closed?
You are correct though, Mr. Colstrup is in prison in MN at the St. Cloud facility. He was sentenced to 15 months with a report date of 6/10/2010. He has 153 days credit for time served (I assume that's from time served at the Freeborn County jail.)
With Colstrup's Violation of an OFP in 1996, criminal charges of two domestic abuse crimes and a Violation of an OFP in 2006 , two violations of an OFP in 2007 and another in 2008, maybe 15 months with 153 days credit for time served is way too harsh.
Posted by busybee on Jul. 19 2010,7:44 am
Liberal...Posted on: Jul. 16 2010,1:52 pm QUOTE
Will they let him out to make pancakes like Harig did?
When I looked up Colstrup's criminal charges history on line, I was expecting to find alcohol/illegal drug related criminal charges also, yet there is none.
It seems to me that Harig must have believed he could help Colstrup stop getting in trouble for domestic abuse crimes by taking him out of jail to deal with a chemical dependency problem.
It's not unusual for people to blame mood altering chemicals as the cause for domestic violence, even though the fact is more people use chemicals and don't commit domestic abuse/violence crimes.
Not only did Harig not follow the proper procedures that people expect after that many years in law enforcement, he granted someone who was in jail for domestic violence with the privilege of getting out of jail for what Harig decided was more important of an issue to be dealt with.
It's never been a secret that Harig was unhappy about being in the hot seat to defend his choices with Colstrup. The sad part is though, he continues to hold grudges and blames others because the issue was "leaked" to the public.
Posted by alcitizens on Jul. 19 2010,11:18 am
(Bluehosta @ Jul. 18 2010,9:01 pm)
QUOTE
(pantalonesverdes @ Jul. 18 2010,8:26 pm)
QUOTE
(alcitizens @ Jul. 17 2010,10:45 pm)
QUOTE
Are there Quotas that are set by the Sheriff? A certain amount of stops required each month or each week? A certain amount of revenue that is required by patrol and investigators each month or each week?
I find that the use of a flash bang grenade and search warrant abuses by law enforcement is out of control.. Is falsified evidence being given to the judges that approve those search warrants? Hint: No Guns Found.. No notice by the Tribune if any arrests were ever made..
< http://www.albertleatribune.com/news/2009/sep/28/guns-reported-stolen/ >
I find that the use of a flash bang grenade and search warrant abuses by law enforcement is out of control.. Is falsified evidence being given to the judges that approve those search warrants? Hint: No Guns Found..
No notice by the Tribune if any arrests were ever made..< http://www.albertleatribune.com/news/2009/sep/28/guns-reported-stolen/ >
Seriously, try do some research.
< https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/?id=169.985 >
I was told, there is an exception. That a person should look into the instructions of required "contacts" when they run special projects which are funded by Federal Grants, i. e. seat belt enforcement, DWI sweeps, etc. The more contacts they get, the better it looks for the next grant. Contacts of course are not arrests or citations, but your life gets interferred with to make a required number.
Thanks Bluehosta! So in many situations the Sheriff does have quotas, they just don't call it quotas, they call it contacts and if they don't make enough contacts, patrol officers lives get interferred with from the Sheriff.
So Mr. pantalonesverdes, they DO STOP "some where there was none".
Now I know why this guy I know was pulled over by a Sheriffs Deputy because he thought he wasn't wearing his seatbelt. Well, HE WAS wearing his seatbelt and after much delay was allowed to go.. This kind of law enforcement isn't right..
Posted by alcitizens on Jul. 19 2010,1:47 pm
QUOTE
Bob Kindler Ethical Standards
Everyone seems to have a different way of defining "ethical" yet all the definitions are quite similar. When I asked other people what the word meant to them, I heard definitions that included, "Always doing what is right even when nobody is watching" or, "Being ethical includes the traits of being honest, trustworthy, and fair". Still others included the words "morals" and " integrity" in their definitions. Webster's Dictionary, in one of its definitions, defines ethical as "conforming to the standards of conduct of a given profession or group".
I personally like all of those definitions. Throughout my law enforcement career I have strived to do what is right while treating the public and the people I work with and supervise with respect, honesty, and fairness. In short, ethical values are very much a part of me.
For law enforcement agencies it is imperative that we treat everyone, be it victim, suspect, co-worker or any person we have contact with, to a standard of conduct that is honest, trustworthy and fair. It is those traits that give us integrity. As sheriff, I will continue to lead in a professional and ethical manner. The transformation of the Freeborn County Sheriff's Office into an effective law enforcement agency demands it.
< http://kindlerforsheriff.com/ethicalStandards.html >
Everyone seems to have a different way of defining "ethical" yet all the definitions are quite similar. When I asked other people what the word meant to them, I heard definitions that included, "Always doing what is right even when nobody is watching" or, "Being ethical includes the traits of being honest, trustworthy, and fair". Still others included the words "morals" and " integrity" in their definitions. Webster's Dictionary, in one of its definitions, defines ethical as "conforming to the standards of conduct of a given profession or group".
I personally like all of those definitions. Throughout my law enforcement career I have strived to do what is right while treating the public and the people I work with and supervise with respect, honesty, and fairness. In short, ethical values are very much a part of me.
For law enforcement agencies it is imperative that we treat everyone, be it victim, suspect, co-worker or any person we have contact with, to a standard of conduct that is honest, trustworthy and fair. It is those traits that give us integrity. As sheriff, I will continue to lead in a professional and ethical manner. The transformation of the Freeborn County Sheriff's Office into an effective law enforcement agency demands it.
< http://kindlerforsheriff.com/ethicalStandards.html >
Call at (507) 373-7523 and leave your message on how you would like to help. Yard sign anyone?
Posted by Liberal on Jul. 21 2010,4:12 pm
The Tribune has a poll and this is the results so far.QUOTE
Mark Harig, Albert Lea 383 33% 383 votes
Marc Johnson, Emmons 115 10% 115 votes
Bob Kindler, Albert Lea 466 40% 466 votes
Ryan Merkouris, Albert Lea 178 15% 178 votes
1142 total votes
After the primary I think the spread between Kindler and Harig will be at least 20 points.
Posted by gijoeman on Jul. 21 2010,6:32 pm
Bob Kindler for a kinder gentler county sheriff.
Posted by alcitizens on Jul. 21 2010,6:42 pm
I noticed listening to the radio broadcast that the main reason the others, besides Harig, thought that someone had to give the people a choice. You can tell they want Harig out whether or not they win or not. They said he thinks its all about himself and not the people or the department and that he actually told them it was all about himself..
Posted by gijoeman on Jul. 21 2010,6:57 pm
Looks like Jabba the bowl-cut (haircut) sheriff may be defeated. What's his little butt-kiss "Robin" partner in crime, Cory gonna do?
Posted by proactive on Jul. 23 2010,12:26 am
(busybee @ Jul. 19 2010,7:44 am)
QUOTE
Liberal...Posted on: Jul. 16 2010,1:52 pm
When I looked up Colstrup's criminal charges history on line, I was expecting to find alcohol/illegal drug related criminal charges also, yet there is none.
It seems to me that Harig must have believed he could help Colstrup stop getting in trouble for domestic abuse crimes by taking him out of jail to deal with a chemical dependency problem.
It's not unusual for people to blame mood altering chemicals as the cause for domestic violence, even though the fact is more people use chemicals and don't commit domestic abuse/violence crimes.
Not only did Harig not follow the proper procedures that people expect after that many years in law enforcement, he granted someone who was in jail for domestic violence with the privilege of getting out of jail for what Harig decided was more important of an issue to be dealt with.
It's never been a secret that Harig was unhappy about being in the hot seat to defend his choices with Colstrup. The sad part is though, he continues to hold grudges and blames others because the issue was "leaked" to the public.
QUOTE
Will they let him out to make pancakes like Harig did?
When I looked up Colstrup's criminal charges history on line, I was expecting to find alcohol/illegal drug related criminal charges also, yet there is none.
It seems to me that Harig must have believed he could help Colstrup stop getting in trouble for domestic abuse crimes by taking him out of jail to deal with a chemical dependency problem.
It's not unusual for people to blame mood altering chemicals as the cause for domestic violence, even though the fact is more people use chemicals and don't commit domestic abuse/violence crimes.
Not only did Harig not follow the proper procedures that people expect after that many years in law enforcement, he granted someone who was in jail for domestic violence with the privilege of getting out of jail for what Harig decided was more important of an issue to be dealt with.
It's never been a secret that Harig was unhappy about being in the hot seat to defend his choices with Colstrup. The sad part is though, he continues to hold grudges and blames others because the issue was "leaked" to the public.
Not only was Harig unhappy being in the hot seat defending his choices regarding Colstrup once the public caught wind of the crap he was pulling. He tried to put it all off on one of the long term jail employees rather than take the heat himself.
When that employee wouldn't take the blame for his unauthorized use of power an all out personal attack was launched against that employee. Which lasted almost daily for a year and a half.
And of course his two faithful compadre's, Gene Arnold and the incomperable M. Pina (the biggest waste of oxygen and space our county has ever experienced!) were right at his side doing their absolute best to help out.
But that's just standard operating proceedure for these three goofs. Intimidation, threats, fear of job loss for any employee not willing to bow down and kiss their butt in any situation.
It's time all three of these guys are asked to leave!
Harig complains about morale within the department. It was there before he got into office. Maybe the fact that the fearless leader has very few morals or ethics has something to do with it!
Posted by alcitizens on Jul. 23 2010,10:56 pm
Tribune poll as of today.QUOTE
Mark Harig, Albert Lea 32% 446 votes
Marc Johnson, Emmons 10% 139 votes
Bob Kindler, Albert Lea 42% 580 votes
Ryan Merkouris, Albert Lea 14% 202 votes
1367 total votes
Marc Johnson, Emmons 10% 139 votes
Bob Kindler, Albert Lea 42% 580 votes
Ryan Merkouris, Albert Lea 14% 202 votes
1367 total votes
Posted by bianca on Jul. 24 2010,5:50 am
From what I've read on Kindlers website he sounds like a good candidate. Does anyone know anything "questionable" that he's done in his career
Posted by badboy2 on Jul. 24 2010,10:59 am
I have heard nothing bad about Kindler. I have talked to deputies, and most if not all, think he is the best canidate to lead into the future.
Posted by Bluehosta on Jul. 24 2010,12:37 pm
I was golfing early this summer, and a ball bounced right next to me. Nolander, there he was. I called up one of his old Deputies and asked him a few questions. He said Nolander never took any of the seized property home or sold it to family. He also said the only Deputy that was allowed Overtime under Noldander was Harig, becasue Harig's overtime was paid with a "Federal Grant" , and Harig made sure he got it all. One of those Federal Grants that comes form your tax dollars, that Harig says cost you nothing?? The Deputy added that it was Harig's choice to work on the drug task force, Nolander never forced him to, and in fact was the only thing Harig would work on. I've said this before, I think it is reversed on Harig's website, I think 90% of his employees are unhappy and only 10% are happy with him..
Posted by bianca on Jul. 26 2010,6:29 am
What was the comment in the Trib about Arnold and Pena getting into a bar brawl? That could never be good. Aren't they supposedly good friends? It seems like people either really like Harig or they really don't. Does anyone know if the ICE idea was Harig's idea?
Posted by Kid Rock on Jul. 27 2010,5:20 pm
(Bluehosta @ Jul. 24 2010,12:37 pm)
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I called up one of his old Deputies and asked him a few questions. He said Nolander never took any of the seized property home or sold it to family.
Nolander was on the hot seat for the meals program when he was in charge of feeding the prisoners in the old jail a long time ago. He was confronted about some money issues he was in charge of. He couldn't explain were the extra money went.???
Posted by Bluehosta on Jul. 27 2010,5:52 pm
Well Nolander isn't running for election and I haven't heard anything about that. Seems though that all the recent allegations that have been brought up about the current Sheriff Harig and recently some of his Deputies, were never answered, or addressed, or acknowledged, and someone has gotten the AL Tribune to change their policy before they had to. "GRIP" Get Rid of Incumbant Politicians.
Posted by hairhertz on Jul. 27 2010,6:34 pm
Ah, the change at the ALTrib was instituted because of the sheriff's complaints about the rumours of his questionable decision making skills?
Posted by MADDOG on Jul. 28 2010,5:02 pm
The meet the candidates forum is tonight at 7:00. I can't remember, is it in the city council room?
Posted by ControlledHyperness on Jul. 28 2010,5:07 pm
yes, and unfortunately for those of us who have church and no cable, we don't get to see or hear it. Bummer. Not even on KATE or Myalbertlea.com site (listening in on a feed). I wish I could be there or see it on TV.
Posted by MADDOG on Jul. 28 2010,5:23 pm
I'll try to fill you in a little.
Posted by ControlledHyperness on Jul. 28 2010,5:27 pm
Thank you! I appriciate it! If you want to PM me the notes, that would be awesome!
Posted by MADDOG on Jul. 28 2010,5:31 pm
I'll post for all.
Posted by alcitizens on Jul. 28 2010,5:31 pm
See how cooperative the bunch of us can be. I just got done talking to my Dad about Harig's write up in the Trib. He told me that when he was a Deputy in 1970 under Sheriff Holly, the entire Sheriff's Department consisted of 10 people. Now there is 95 including Harig. What the hell happened?? Even if you subtract the 17 jailors under the ICE contract, there is 78 people at the Sheriff's Department.
Posted by MADDOG on Jul. 28 2010,5:32 pm
You're welcome to join me.
Posted by ControlledHyperness on Jul. 28 2010,5:38 pm
Sorry..I have to..for the sake of the fact this is the 4th consecutive post this has happened to...MD, I am
to you. I am following in your footsteps...and hoping that I don't find your landmines along the way...
Posted by MADDOG on Jul. 28 2010,5:42 pm
Naw CH, sorry for the confusion, I was referring to alc.
Posted by ControlledHyperness on Jul. 28 2010,5:43 pm
I was talking about how I happen to be found responding to something in the wake of you...
Posted by alcitizens on Jul. 28 2010,5:53 pm
(MADDOG @ Jul. 28 2010,5:32 pm)
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You're welcome to join me.
7:00 is not a good time for me to hobknob with the law, or anytime for that matter.
Posted by Kid Rock on Jul. 29 2010,8:38 am
It's a shame that the best person for the Sheriff's job had past away a few years ago. Phil Bartusek , ( R.I.P. ) Good person , good family man and great Police Officer.
Posted by right foot foward on Jul. 29 2010,12:43 pm
Tuesday night during a union meeting Deputy Johnson came to the meeting. Johnson said he wanted to clear up a rumor. Johnson said that he and Kindler were for the Ice Contract. I asked Johnson are you sure because several people have told me that 3 of the 4 candidates were against the contract during the Power 96 Sheriff's Debate, and that I just called Power 96 and talked with Ron Hunter and Hunter said that 3 of the candidates sounded like they weren't for the the contract. Johnson said I don't know who this Ron is, but Kindler and I didn't say anything like that. I told Johnson I was going to go and listen to the debate at Power 96. Some of the wording I wrote in here might not be exact. Well I did, and it doesn't sound like Johnson, Kindler or Merkouris is for the contract. I feel I was lied to to get my vote, and I don't like it. So which is it are you, for or against it!!!!!!!!!!!!! The general public can go to Power 96 and listen to it.
This comment isn't for campaigning but to save jobs and to keep more revenue coming to Freeborn County.
During the Power 96 Debate Kindler stated that 1/3 of the new hires live out of county. I believe it is only 4 or 5 of the 17, so that isn't 1/3. Kindler Stated we could house Out of County Boarders, the fact is Faribault and Mower Counties have built new Jails. So now where are we going to find Out of County Boarders. The DOC inmates we use to house were more of a risk than the Ice Detainees we house if you ask me, and other officers agree. I checked the web site that Kindler said Ice was going to get rid of County jails for housing Ice inmates, I found nothing, even about cridentals for facilities to be able to house Ice Detainees. Maybe I missed it but I searched for an hour! When we were reviewed by Ice this year we received 98% scoring. They stated we were one of the top! It is true the 17 new staff were told they were hired for this Ice contract, but this contract is still here and as I have been told, and as I understand it, it is renewable! Why wouldn't the feds want to renew a contract with one of the top housing facilites it has? We work hard to strive to be the best, to keep this contract, to keep the jobs and generate revenue for this county. I thank Mark Harig for his part on getting us this contract, it helps cut local taxes, created jobs,brings more buisness to our community.
Mark Johnson I believe you lied to me, when you said Kindler and you supported the Ice Contract. Go listen to the Power 96 Debate!
People honestly if we didn't have the Ice contract the cost of the 20 some employees, the heat, the medical and electric is still going to be there. The added cost when we have the Ice Contract is a lot less than the 1.8 million we generated from Ice. Would you rather have a jail that basically supports it self or costs you?
If this Ice contract goes away, so does probably the full time maintenance person, the nurses, the corrections officers hired for this contract, one of the 2 people for civil process/person that over see the daily ice, 1 administrator the transport officers. This contract is a much bigger thing than most people know.
Darrel Turvold
Posted by Bluehosta on Jul. 29 2010,1:18 pm
The contract isn't going away, its controlled by a bigger percentage of the County Borad then the Sheriff. When it is over with, were not these people told of the possibliity there could be lay offs? And if this is a good buisness, versus a nessessary buisness, then the hospitals that are in financial trouble in the cities should fill the beds with illegals, and get them MA, and say how much money they are making. When the expierenced personal say that the office suffers from lack of good moral, leadership, education, sound buisness practices in accounting, and efficency in budgeting, I'm agreeing they need a new leader.
Posted by pantalonesverdes on Jul. 29 2010,1:26 pm
(alcitizens @ Jul. 28 2010,6:31 pm)
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See how cooperative the bunch of us can be.
I just got done talking to my Dad about Harig's write up in the Trib. He told me that when he was a Deputy in 1970 under Sheriff Holly, the entire Sheriff's Department consisted of 10 people. Now there is 95 including Harig. What the hell happened?? Even if you subtract the 17 jailors under the ICE contract, there is 78 people at the Sheriff's Department.
I just got done talking to my Dad about Harig's write up in the Trib. He told me that when he was a Deputy in 1970 under Sheriff Holly, the entire Sheriff's Department consisted of 10 people. Now there is 95 including Harig. What the hell happened?? Even if you subtract the 17 jailors under the ICE contract, there is 78 people at the Sheriff's Department.
95? Not saying it is right or wrong, just wondering where or who you got the numbers from?
Posted by alcitizens on Jul. 29 2010,1:51 pm
(pantalonesverdes @ Jul. 29 2010,1:26 pm)
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(alcitizens @ Jul. 28 2010,6:31 pm)
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See how cooperative the bunch of us can be.
I just got done talking to my Dad about Harig's write up in the Trib. He told me that when he was a Deputy in 1970 under Sheriff Holly, the entire Sheriff's Department consisted of 10 people. Now there is 95 including Harig. What the hell happened?? Even if you subtract the 17 jailors under the ICE contract, there is 78 people at the Sheriff's Department.
I just got done talking to my Dad about Harig's write up in the Trib. He told me that when he was a Deputy in 1970 under Sheriff Holly, the entire Sheriff's Department consisted of 10 people. Now there is 95 including Harig. What the hell happened?? Even if you subtract the 17 jailors under the ICE contract, there is 78 people at the Sheriff's Department.
95? Not saying it is right or wrong, just wondering where or who you got the numbers from?
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Harig says; My staff, including part-time positions, is 94 people.
< http://www.albertleatribune.com/2010...sidents >
Harig would be #95..
Posted by jazzy jeff on Jul. 29 2010,3:41 pm
well, i know this, one of the candidates acted like a bafoon one night at a fundraiser I was at. He threatened to "shut down the music" and was very unprofessional. After he left the party, he proceeded to park his car a few blocks away for 30 mins or so. BTW, the party was outdoors and the person responsible for the party had received permission from the city council to have an outdoor fundraiser until 10pm. My opinion of this individual will not change due to his bullying tactics and lack of professionalism.
Posted by jazzy jeff on Jul. 29 2010,3:42 pm
baffoon..should have used spell check! 
Posted by irisheyes on Jul. 29 2010,6:49 pm
Was the cop just a mean guy, or did your friends decide they wanted to play their music too loud? Fine by me if people want to have a good time, I just wish more often they would respect their neighbors while doing so.
Posted by Kid Rock on Jul. 29 2010,7:46 pm
The power of the " BADGE. "
Posted by hymiebravo on Jul. 29 2010,11:50 pm
Which candidate makes the best root beer floats? lol
Posted by hymiebravo on Jul. 29 2010,11:53 pm
Can a sheriff use confiscated root beer and ice cream for those type of events?The current holder of the position of sheriff will win either way. He is old enough to retire, and then some, anyway isn't he?
I'm sure there is a certain amount of ego boost and prestige that he may have grown accustomed to at this point, as well as other reasons, that keep him interested in staying around though.
As far as butt kissing and him having his favorite pet lackeys goes: that is common place everywhere.
Anybody who takes his place, if he doesn't get reelected, will have their own form of that as well.
Posted by hairhertz on Jul. 30 2010,12:06 am
If he retired, would he still get a motorcycle and a 4x4?
Posted by busybee on Jul. 30 2010,1:19 am
Does it matter what a Sheriff gets as "perks?" As far as I am concerned; what matters is the County's PUBLIC and their SAFETY in Freeborn County and having a Sheriff who backs his deputies/investigator's decisions!!
Posted by Kid Rock on Jul. 30 2010,9:02 am
Old Sheriff Nolander got plenty of perks to. He would cut in front of others in lines , take things from new members at the YMCA , go behind the front desk/office at the YMCA because he was friends with the Director. Tell VIAGRA jokes about others at the YMCA and then get upset when they told jokes back to him.
Posted by MADDOG on Jul. 30 2010,9:42 am
tick tick
Posted by Bluehosta on Aug. 01 2010,6:23 am
Several lawsuits have been filed, including one from a Minneapolis sergeant who said he was removed from the unit after complaining to a superior officer about the improper handling of evidence. The FBI is investigating claims that up to 12 officers seized cash, cars and assorted items for personal use.Above is a paragraph from "Crime", Nov 2, 2009, WCCO news.
The above quote is a reminder why the three non incumbant canidates for Sheriff want reform at Freeborn County. The discussion over misuse of seizures has been questioned many times, and recently with the papers that appeared on here where the Sheriff's brother purchased a refrigerated semi trailer for $500.00
When you have nothing to loose I guess you don't mind using your name, but as seen in this county, when the Sheriff decides to let a dangerous prisoner out to make pancakes, who just happens to belong to the same service club as the Sheriff, a staff member claims they were blamed and had to resign. Luckily the Judges kept good notes on their conversations with our Sheriff, who seems to have a touch of memory loss at times.
Posted by Liberal on Aug. 01 2010,9:03 am
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The discussion over misuse of seizures has been questioned many times, and recently with the papers that appeared on here where the Sheriff's brother purchased a refrigerated semi trailer for $500.00
If you look at the receipt it appears that the brother paid $100 and then gave his brother $400 for storage. I would guess it was done that way to avoid giving the state and the prosecutor their fair share of the seized asset.
Posted by hairhertz on Aug. 01 2010,1:08 pm
Harig must realize that when he has his own deputies running against him, that the public KNOWS all isn't well in the sheriff's department. Kudos to those deputies who were brave enough to put their careers on the line to oppose Harig.
Posted by alcitizens on Aug. 01 2010,3:11 pm
(hairhertz @ Aug. 01 2010,1:08 pm)
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Harig must realize that when he has his own deputies running against him, that the public KNOWS all isn't well in the sheriff's department. Kudos to those deputies who were brave enough to put their careers on the line to oppose Harig.
Posted by busybee on Aug. 01 2010,3:24 pm
Bluehosta...you are fortunate in the fact that you can write as you wish on this forum about Harig and some of his followers.
Posted by Bluehosta on Aug. 01 2010,7:42 pm
If you speak of anyone on here, I believe you should not call them names or speak of untruths. We don't want to loose this spot for free honest expression. A newspaper or news program is sometimes controlled by their advertisers who carry a lot influence to the table, as the tribune might have found out.
Posted by alcitizens on Aug. 03 2010,6:33 pm
Find your Sample Ballot and Polling Place here:< http://minnesota.evoter.com/ >
Posted by Liberal on Aug. 10 2010,10:30 pm
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There are 40 out of 40 precincts reporting countywide. Here are results in the Freeborn County sheriff’s race for tonight:
Bob Kindler: 2,779
Mark Harig (incumbent): 2,129
Ryan Merkouris: 540
Marc Johnson: 318
That gives Kindler 48 percent, Harig 37 percent, Merkouris 9 percent and Johnson 6 percent.
< http://www.albertleatribune.com/2010...ge-here >
Was it an anti-incumbent vote, or was it an anti-Harig vote?
Posted by alcitizens on Aug. 10 2010,11:05 pm
ANTI-HARIG VOTE..Congrats Future Freeborn County Sheriff, Sheriff Kindler!!
Posted by busybee on Aug. 11 2010,12:26 am
It's going to be a close race between the two, I believe. I have been hearing the same thing that Bluehosta wrote about on here...that employees are being told if Harig doesn't win and be the Sheriff of Freeborn County again..they will lose their jobs.
I have been told by many people (employees and citizens) that it's Pena (Bluehosta mentioned him also) who is advocating for Harig the most in this "threatening" manner.
I have also heard that as Freeborn County Sheriff, Harig hired a friend he knew from the Southern MN Drug Task Force.
The rumor is that the person he hired lived an hour and a half away from Albert Lea and Harig not only paid him to do transports to and from the Freeborn County Detention Center, this friend/employee was also paid for the miles he drove to and from Albert Lea to get to and from work.
Another rumor I heard is that Sheriff Harig hired a Deputy who had at least one or possibly two convictions of criminal assault on their record.
I was told that some of the employees of the Sheriff's department were disturbed by this and only after they kept demanding Harig explain and justify his hiring the person, did Harig get rid of the person/deputy.
I can not confirm or deny what I have written above as fact or fiction...so I expect everyone who reads what I have written as it is...RUMORS.
And...according to law everything I have written in this post would be considered "hearsay" unless someone can confirm the rumors as facts.
Posted by alcitizens on Aug. 11 2010,12:42 am
The majority of the deputies can't stand Harig.. Rumor or Not..
Posted by busybee on Aug. 11 2010,12:56 am
Posted by badboy2 on Aug. 11 2010,8:34 am
Why was the Sheriff at his booth all the time during the fair last week in uniform? He should have been out helping patrol!! All the deputies working on Saturday night at the fair must have cost the taxpapyers some bucks!
Posted by alcitizens on Aug. 11 2010,11:17 am
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Johnson and Merkouris threw their support behind Kindler.
Kindler received 2,779 votes for 48 percent of the county, Harig received 2,129 votes for 37 percent of the county, Merkouris received 540 votes for 9 percent of the county and Johnson received 318 votes for 6 percent of the county.
Kindler 2,779 + 540 + 318= 3,637
Harig = 2129
Kindler received 2,779 votes for 48 percent of the county, Harig received 2,129 votes for 37 percent of the county, Merkouris received 540 votes for 9 percent of the county and Johnson received 318 votes for 6 percent of the county.
Kindler 2,779 + 540 + 318= 3,637
Harig = 2129
Posted by Robert Hoffman on Aug. 11 2010,12:47 pm
(alcitizens @ Aug. 11 2010,12:42 am)
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The majority of the deputies can't stand Harig.. Rumor or Not..
...just a rumor.
Posted by Robert Hoffman on Aug. 11 2010,12:49 pm
(badboy2 @ Aug. 11 2010,8:34 am)
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Why was the Sheriff at his booth all the time during the fair last week in uniform? He should have been out helping patrol!! All the deputies working on Saturday night at the fair must have cost the taxpapyers some bucks!
Weren't ALL the Sheriff candidates there?
Posted by Bluehosta on Aug. 11 2010,1:00 pm
I guess that Sheriff Harig's popularity has, is, and will come out soon. And no, the other deputies were NOT on duty when and if they were in their booths. The Sheriff is the only one that can campaign on duty.
Posted by hairhertz on Aug. 11 2010,1:51 pm
Just ask him, he's ALWAYS on duty working 24/7 to protect us all.
Posted by Wolfie on Aug. 11 2010,2:40 pm
I spent the entire week at the fair this year (working a stand) and noticed something more than a little unnerving. Every time I saw Harig in uniform he was working his booth (he did do very little patrolling), he also had other deputies (such as Pena) at his booth in uniform. I believe Merkouris took time off form work to do his campaigning (I will believe this assumption till proved otherwise). Marc Johnson worked his booth in civilian clothes and I did see him out there on patrol but he never stepped foot near his booth while on the job. Kindler was also only in civilian clothes every time I saw him. I guess what I am getting at is what makes it legal for Harig to be in uniform and require his pet deputies to be at his booth in uniform. Its kind of intimidating to have a armed person approach you to sway your vote. I wouldn't even know where to look into this sort of thing just wondering. Personally I believe it should be illegal to use the uniform or the office in a political manner. I do know that members of either the VFW or the American Legion that are running for office cannot use either the uniform or building of such organization for their political gain. So why should it be any different for Sheriff.
Posted by jimhanson on Aug. 11 2010,4:17 pm
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Its kind of intimidating to have a armed person approach you to sway your vote.
Not according to Eric Holder and the Obamunists! Or maybe you have to be a Black Panther?
Posted by hairhertz on Aug. 11 2010,4:55 pm
(Wolfie @ Aug. 11 2010,2:40 pm)
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I spent the entire week at the fair this year (working a stand) and noticed something more than a little unnerving. Every time I saw Harig in uniform he was working his booth (he did do very little patrolling), he also had other deputies (such as Pena) at his booth in uniform. I believe Merkouris took time off form work to do his campaigning (I will believe this assumption till proved otherwise). Marc Johnson worked his booth in civilian clothes and I did see him out there on patrol but he never stepped foot near his booth while on the job. Kindler was also only in civilian clothes every time I saw him. I guess what I am getting at is what makes it legal for Harig to be in uniform and require his pet deputies to be at his booth in uniform. Its kind of intimidating to have a armed person approach you to sway your vote. I wouldn't even know where to look into this sort of thing just wondering. Personally I believe it should be illegal to use the uniform or the office in a political manner. I do know that members of either the VFW or the American Legion that are running for office cannot use either the uniform or building of such organization for their political gain. So why should it be any different for Sheriff.
Because the sheriff actually believes that he is the law?
[and yes it is intimidating]
Posted by alalum on Aug. 11 2010,5:00 pm
The sheriff is a salaried employee and therefore is always on duty. If other deputies were at the booth when you went by they were just there to say hi. You guys are really grasping to find anything to rip the sheriff on. Nothing changed from last election and I don't remember anyone having a problem with his uniform before. Really the guy helped create jobs and just because you didn't get one you're upset. The meth problem is almost gone. The cost of the jail is way down, and to that you say why does he wear his uniform? pretty weak
Posted by alcitizens on Aug. 11 2010,8:49 pm
Harig is Narcissistic..Narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) is a personality disorder defined by the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, the diagnostic classification system used in the United States, as "a pervasive pattern of grandiosity, need for admiration, and a lack of empathy."
The narcissist is described as being excessively preoccupied with issues of personal adequacy, power, and prestige. Narcissistic personality disorder is closely linked to self-centeredness.
< http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder >
Posted by alalum on Aug. 11 2010,9:12 pm
I guess I missed the part where you went to school and became a psychologist alcitizens. I too can read books and make judgements, but it doesn't make them correct. I like your source too, wikipedia, where anyone can add or change what is posted, much like this forum. But you know what they say, "If you read it on the web, it must be true."
Posted by proactive on Aug. 11 2010,10:32 pm
Bluehosta, I can confirm all that you stated above. He did hire a "friend" that lived 1 1/2 hours away. He had assaults on his record and when he got another one in the cities he was finally "relieved" of his duties. Both Pena and Harig have told staff that they had better remember where their loyalty lies and vote for Harig. That is NO rumor. Although they have been told if he loses they will lose their jobs. that is NOT true. The ICE contract is for 4 more years, NO one will lose their jobs. He doesn't have the authority to break the contract. Sheriff Harig was the only one "on duty" at the fair. The others were not allowed to go anywhere near their booths when they were on duty. It also is no rumor the majority of the deputies can't stand Harig. IT IS THE TRUTH!! Why do you think there were 3 former or current running against him? There are only 3 or 4 of his deputies that support him. Not very good if you ask me. The night of the election Channel 3 was looking for Harig to interview him. Where was he? Home sleeping because he had to be up early to leave for Sturgis.
The only possible person to vote for for Sheriff is Bob Kindler. He is the honest and ethical one, NOT HARIG!!
Posted by MADDOG on Aug. 11 2010,11:37 pm
(badboy2 @ Aug. 11 2010,8:34 am)
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Why was the Sheriff at his booth all the time during the fair last week in uniform? He should have been out helping patrol!! All the deputies working on Saturday night at the fair must have cost the taxpapyers some bucks!
I don't have time to look, but if he was in his booth in uniform, that doesn't necessarily make him on duty does it? If I remember correctly, he can wear his uniform while doing that? Maybe someone who knows their way around the cfboard knows for sure?
Posted by City Worker on Aug. 12 2010,1:17 am
Ok , say Kindler wins . Then in the next election workers under him start to complain. We don't like our Boss , over budget, and so on.It's a cycle that repeats it's self over and over.
Posted by Bluehosta on Aug. 12 2010,6:56 am
Proactive, some of that was my post some belongs to someone else. City worker, I vote to express my approval or my displeasure. I vote because its the only way for change. An elected official is suppose to serve the public, not try to make the job into a self improvement program for himself or a life career. Its to serve the public and thats what I want to believe. Thats why I belong to "GRIP" G=get, R=rid, of I=Incumbant, P=Politicians. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different outcome. When you vote you can vote for a change, that is the only way things will change and imporve.
Posted by jack03 on Aug. 13 2010,9:04 am
It's all about the pay.
Posted by gijoeman on Aug. 13 2010,11:34 am
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I too can read books and make judgements, but it doesn't make them correct
You sure got THAT right when your talking about yourself.
Posted by Oldbadge on Aug. 13 2010,1:15 pm
(alalum @ Aug. 11 2010,5:00 pm)
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The sheriff is a salaried employee and therefore is always on duty. If other deputies were at the booth when you went by they were just there to say hi. You guys are really grasping to find anything to rip the sheriff on. Nothing changed from last election and I don't remember anyone having a problem with his uniform before. Really the guy helped create jobs and just because you didn't get one you're upset. The meth problem is almost gone. The cost of the jail is way down, and to that you say why does he wear his uniform? pretty weak
Sorry, I just can't let this one slide by. Salaried or not, all sworn Law Enforcement take an oath and are technically on duty all the time. (some more than others)
But stating that the meth problem is"almost gone" is like saying that the State Patrol has got a handle on the speeding problem on the Freeways. Sorry, not buying either one of those statements!
Posted by gijoeman on Aug. 13 2010,1:56 pm
Local law enforcement has solved the drug war on meth? that's an amazing claim and this could put Albert Lea on the map in a big way. We should take this nationwide. I don't think law enforcement is on record as ever solving any drug problem. We are on record for solving the meth issue and we must teach the world our secrets. I think this is absolute proof that law enforcement can and will solve the drug problems. Prohibition works! Law enforcement can and will make prohibition work. End of story, no further discussion ever needed from here to eternity.