Topic: PTSD
started by: GEOKARJO
Posted by GEOKARJO on Jan. 14 2009,10:38 am
I almost felt his pain until I got to the end of this story.QUOTE
PTSD Tied to Successful Insanity Defense
January 14, 2009
San Jose Mercury News
SAN JOSE, Calif. - In a landmark case for veterans suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder, a Santa Clara County jury Tuesday found a former Army captain diagnosed with PTSD not guilty by reason of insanity for robbing a Mountain View, Calif., pharmacy of drugs at gunpoint.
Sargent Binkley, 34, faced a maximum of 22 years and eight months and a minimum of 12 years in state prison after the same jury convicted him last week of the 2006 robbery. He initially spent about two years in county jail awaiting trial and has been in a residential drug treatment program ever since.
The jury's verdict in the sanity phase of the trial Tuesday means Binkley could be treated for the disorder in a state hospital or as an outpatient. He was taken into custody Tuesday to be evaluated.
Learn more at Military.com's PTSD Center.
"What this case means is that the jury stood behind a Soldier," said Charles J. Smith, one of his attorneys. "We strongly believe that Soldiers should get preferential treatment if they come back with problems after their service to our country."
Binkley and his father, Edward, burst into tears when the verdict was announced.
"There was no reason this case should have ever gone to trial," Edward Binkley said, adding that his son turned himself in after committing a second robbery in San Carlos, Calif.
The prosecutor who tried the case, Deborah Medved, and a spokeswoman for the DA's office could not immediately be reached for comment.
Binkley graduated from West Point and served in Bosnia and Honduras before he received a general discharge in 2003. His defense attorneys argued that he became traumatized by two events - guarding a mass grave in Bosnia and shooting a teenager in a Honduran drug raid.
His father said he became addicted to morphine-based painkillers after dislocating his hip while running away from an alcohol-fueled fight in Honduras over a woman.
© Copyright 2009 San Jose Mercury News
If this guy had ever been in battle he might of took out a High School.
Posted by minnow on Jan. 14 2009,10:46 am
It was OK to kill the teenager as long as it's a drug raid? And what are our soldiers doing conducting drug raids in foreign countries. They can't even do that here.
Posted by GEOKARJO on Jan. 14 2009,10:48 am
It said he shot him not killed him. The teenager could had been armed with IED or rocket launcher If he was a threat he deserved to be shot.
Posted by minnow on Jan. 14 2009,10:50 am
Why does the last part lead you to change your feelings about his case?
Posted by GEOKARJO on Jan. 14 2009,10:55 am
I don't see the trauma in the examples provided. If he had been in battle for days on end and suffer his drug addiction as a result of the wounds he received in the battle I would understand PSTD much easier.QUOTE
he became addicted to morphine-based painkillers after dislocating his hip while running away from an alcohol-fueled fight in Honduras over a woman
Only time someone runs away from a fight is when you are getting your arse kicked.
Posted by Botto 82 on Jan. 14 2009,12:23 pm
(minnow @ Jan. 14 2009,10:46 am)
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It was OK to kill the teenager as long as it's a drug raid?
And what are our soldiers doing conducting drug raids in foreign countries. They can't even do that here.
And what are our soldiers doing conducting drug raids in foreign countries. They can't even do that here.
I hate that John Bunnel idiot as much as the next guy, but do you have to have some Pavlovian response every time the word 'drug' appears in a thread?
Posted by hymiebravo on Jan. 14 2009,12:42 pm
I had my own palovian response reading that. When I saw Honduras mentioned.I started thinking about bananas at Kwik Trip.
Posted by bianca on Jan. 15 2009,9:03 am
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I started thinking about bananas at Kwik Trip.
Posted by Alfy Packer on Jan. 16 2009,6:34 pm
Minnow has Post Drug Stress Disorder. PDSD for short. People who suffer from it have the need to garden excessively.
Posted by minnow on Jan. 16 2009,7:22 pm
Oh, yer real funny. Now you're a comedienne. 
Posted by nphilbro on Jan. 16 2009,9:57 pm
(Botto 82 @ Jan. 14 2009,10:23 am)
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(minnow @ Jan. 14 2009,10:46 am)
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It was OK to kill the teenager as long as it's a drug raid?
And what are our soldiers doing conducting drug raids in foreign countries. They can't even do that here.
And what are our soldiers doing conducting drug raids in foreign countries. They can't even do that here.
I hate that John Bunnel idiot as much as the next guy, but do you have to have some Pavlovian response every time the word 'drug' appears in a thread?
Nice Pavlov reference- I'd thought the same for so long but those dogs are now salivating at a new post to drool on just for the chance to use the rest of the board as a hydrant.
Posted by Common Citizen on Mar. 06 2015,1:24 pm
PTSD has always been a mystery me. So many soldiers have been diagnosed with it yet it was rarely if ever diagnosed for the veterans coming back from WWII. Not that it didn't exist but because they didn't have a label for it. My suspicions always arouse as to who's legit and who isn't especially with the whole "stolen valor" issue. I've concluded that it's really not for me to judge nor is it really any of my business.I came across a story about an old friend that was in my platoon many years ago and she recently shared her story of the time she was a police officer and who unfortunately had to kill a man in the line of duty. I was surprised at how emotional I got when I read it and have a new found respect for what our police officers go through above the respect I already had for them.
This is her story from buzzfeed.com
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Posted by MADDOG on Mar. 06 2015,1:52 pm
(Common Citizen @ Mar. 06 2015,1:24 pm)
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PTSD has always been a mystery me. So many soldiers have been diagnosed with it yet it was rarely if ever diagnosed for the veterans coming back from WWII. Not that it didn't exist but because they didn't have a label for it. My suspicions always arouse as to who's legit and who isn't especially with the whole "stolen valor" issue. I've concluded that it's really not for me to judge nor is it really any of my business.
It's been my thoughts as well. It seems to me the high number of those coming back from specifically Iraq were claiming PTSD yet most of my friends who were in 'Nam don't exhibit any problems at least now.
Here's one article, < Is Shell Shock the Same as PTSD. >
Posted by alcitizens on Mar. 06 2015,3:12 pm
22 veterans commit suicide each day< http://time.com/3694053/veteran-suicide/ >
Posted by Common Citizen on Mar. 06 2015,3:22 pm
^ That's a shame. It would be interesting to know if the per capita suicide rate was any higher, the same, or lower with WWII vets?
Posted by Marneman on Mar. 11 2015,1:28 am
in World War I it was called Shell Shock. In World War II and Korea it was Battle Fatigue. In the post Vietnam era it became PTSD. All pretty much the same, just we've learned to understand and treat it better. Still it's a hugh problem. As to whether WWII vets didn't seem to suffer from it as much is a little misleading. I think that generation was more stoic about it, not really wanting to talk about it as much. Interesting story about Audie Murphy (our most decorated soldier in WWII). He never had a problem with his war experiances until he filmed his bio-pic "To Hell and Back" in the 1950s. the act of recreating and reliving all he had gone trough in WWII actually triggered his PTSD which he dealth with till his death in 1972.