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Posted by countryboy on Dec. 28 2008,8:19 am

< http://www.albertleatribune.com/news....aws-for >

Robert,
Can you share any insight on the market's in Southern MN?

Posted by Robert Hoffman on Dec. 28 2008,5:28 pm

(nice attacks on AL Trib .com, man some people)

I can share a lot. I've sold over 100 porperty sales in Southern MN since moving to Albert Lea from Mpls (102 since Feb of 2006)

The class they were writting about was a class that many Realtors in town were invited to attened and were asked to give the MHFA more insight on our smaller local markets. I was the only one out of our area who took the time to go.

My broker got a gift sent to him from MHFA because I scored better than the rest of the class on the test we took to earn continuing education credits (we need 15 a year-that class gave me 2).

Im easy to find 507-402-4692 (hint hint)

Posted by minnow on Dec. 28 2008,6:34 pm

When's the market hit bottom in housing?

Posted by Robert Hoffman on Dec. 28 2008,6:45 pm

I honestly dont think weve seen the bottom yet. I take care of Freddie Mac's foreclosures in the area and theres another wave coming in Jan. We've got a ways to go yet... BUT prices are GREAT now and Ive heard interest rates are unreal low now too!

Posted by Spock of Vulcan on Dec. 29 2008,1:04 am

Housing and other items will stop falling in price. when cost equals in relationship to the actual amount of dollars in circulation.

Posted by Spock of Vulcan on Dec. 29 2008,1:10 am

Where that point is?

A good starting place would be the comparative Analysis of money supply, now, and say the great depression of the 30's.

Posted by Spock of Vulcan on Dec. 29 2008,1:28 am

Here's an interesting article, that suggests stabalization will happen in about mid 2010. I'm guessing that's about right.

< http://www.leap2020.eu/GEAB-N-30-is-...his_a2567.html >

New tipping-point in March 2009: 'When the world becomes aware that this crisis is worse than the 1930s crisis'

Posted by Robert Hoffman on Dec. 29 2008,10:59 am

Spock, GREAT LINK! :notworthy:

A good point made in that artice is that though by 2010 we may see IMPROVEMNET that doent mean we will see GREAT GROWTH and that growth may note be noted until almost 2018.

FOR EXAMPLE; We just bought a house on Sheridan for about 30k in Sept. The people who owned it prior to us paid about 58k in 1997.

...ohh, we've got a ways to go! :popcorn:

Posted by scorenix on Dec. 29 2008,11:27 am

But our fabulous Tribune assured us a few months ago, verified by a real estate agent, that Albert Lea was immune from the mortgage crisis affecting the entire nation. The gist of the article was that we did not have the big run up in real estate prices like metro areas, so the decline would be marginal at best.

Real estate valuation is difficult, but it is a function of interest rates, income, property taxes and economic conditions.

What's the inventory of homes for sale in Albert Lea? Rising? And what's the average length of selling time? Is it getting longer?

Posted by Robert Hoffman on Dec. 29 2008,11:51 am

Theres about 200 homes for sale in Albert Lea right now and the average days on the market is close to 6 to 9 months. (thats "roofs" for sale, not lots or commercial listings)

Thats a little down for inventory, its been higher, but the days on market are getting to be much longer.

A problem sellers are seeing from potiential buyers, aside from buyers getting financing, is that there's just so much to look at that its a lot to take in for some buyers and their making themselves mad trying to decide-so they just don't, they decide not to buy.

I did however just sell a GREAT house on Crestivew that was perfectly priced by the other agent, a gal from Coldwell, and it sold in only a matter of days after being listed and was entertaining a few other offers. ...Nows not the time to try and be ballsy about pricing your home for a sale.

Posted by mrspock on Dec. 29 2008,1:22 pm

24-T3-96-000599 ALP 087687 HOFFMAN, ROBERT JOSEPH
08/25/1977 01/31/1996
Freeborn Non- Traffic Misdemeanor
Converted Closed THEFT
24-T4-97-005403 COM 975403 HOFFMAN, ROBERT JOSEPH
08/25/1977 09/23/1997
Freeborn Non- Traffic Misdemeanor
Converted Closed THEFT

The real Robert Hoffman

Posted by Elk Hunter on Dec. 29 2008,1:45 pm

mrspock -- let it go, will ya!!

Robert -- thanks for the info.

I believe that there are opportunities right now in owning rentals . . . less people buying means more renting. That entire new ordinance issue will actually be good for good landlords. Word gets around about who does not pass inspection. Also, if it turns out to be as bad as some are saying, the ordinance may entice some landlords to sell -- creating more opportunities for those willing to take care of their properties.

Posted by minnow on Dec. 29 2008,1:57 pm

Nobodies perfect Spock. Well, except perhaps you... :popcorn:

But I doubt it.

Rentals are only good if you can get these houses for the right price and from what i see, people are still listing their homes very high for the market.

Posted by Robert Hoffman on Dec. 29 2008,2:03 pm

Elk,

you're VERY right regarding rentals! There's not a single day that goes by at all that I don't have a call regarding Rentals. I only take care of buying and selling Real Estate and don't dabble in property mgmt but I can tell you theres a very high demand and quite a shortage of good rentals by how many calls I get asking to rent homes I have for sale because of the poor rental inventory.

Mrs Pock,

That was a bad screw up i did when i was in high school and it only happened once, i dont know why you put two charges up? But thanks for forgetting the College Degreess from Riverland and St Cloud State, the countless voulenteer organizations im now a part of and my almost 9 years in my profession with over 100 sales in this market in the last few years.

...you mean; this is the "Real Estate Agent Robert Hoffman"

I dont come to your job and tell you you're delivering the papers too slowly!

..hey, i don't hit it out of the park everytime and don't claim to be anyone special but for as much as Im trying to serve to public and for as little as Ive earned get off of the screw ups i did over a decade ago. My more recent screw up with my dui was a lot worse don't you think? and I think by all accounts thats been taken care aside from helping prevent any of my friends from ever doing the same. :soapbox:

Posted by MADDOG on Dec. 29 2008,4:09 pm

I gotta ask. What does a person say on an article about his self that gets deleted?

QUOTE

Posted by RobertHoffmanRealtor (anonymous) on December 29, 2008 at 2:43 p.m.

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Posted by RobertHoffmanRealtor (anonymous) on December 29, 2008 at 3:14 p.m.

(This comment was removed by the site staff.)

Posted by Robert Hoffman on Dec. 29 2008,4:50 pm

Mad; I HAVE NO IDEA? :dunno:

Min; 9from a few mosts above) you are absolutley right-the biggest problem is that houses are just plain listed too high...

Posted by Old Cracker on Dec. 29 2008,9:39 pm

1. Why would the fish wrap single this one guy out?
2. Who down at the fish wrap hates him this much?
3. Why doesn’t the fish wrap let the poor guy defend himself?
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Posted by countryboy on Dec. 29 2008,10:19 pm

Thanks for the input Robert, I appologize for the grave digger (that was not my intention with the post).

Posted by MADDOG on Dec. 30 2008,6:04 am

Some interesting reading on the Tribune site, though. Perhaps that's why all the comments were deleted?

< Minnesota Association of Realtors. >

QUOTE

Mad; I HAVE NO IDEA?

Still don't remember? Chances are you won't get censored here.

Posted by nosale on Dec. 30 2008,1:42 pm

QUOTE

Still don't remember? Chances are you won't get censored here.

The silence is deafening.

Posted by minnow on Dec. 30 2008,1:44 pm

crickets chirping...

Posted by Robert Hoffman on Dec. 30 2008,1:55 pm

sorry about the crickets... THANTS FUNNY!

...I was actually at a closing since 930 at Albert Lea Abstract with Dawn from Coldwell and Peg from Wells Fargo for 3hrs. (the guy was a first time home buyer too, poor guy had to sit for 3hrs-but it was just because they were really really busy)

I think they did it because they saw it as me advertising??? :dunno:

People are accusing me of not being in Real Estate anymore-thats just playing dirty. Thats fine.

...ahh well.

Posted by Robert Hoffman on Dec. 30 2008,2:15 pm

Trib disabled it now. Thats actually kinda nice.

...um WOW, did that just happen??

It actually did affect my business!

...ya know I am still human-sure ive learned to let it bounce. ...i know i know :violin:

Posted by mrspock on Dec. 30 2008,5:04 pm

Sorry Robert that was uncalled for. I forgot one... Hoffman, Robert Joseph
08/25/1977 04/15/2008
Freeborn Crim/Traf Mandatory
Under Court Jurisdiction Traffic - DWI - Operate Motor Vehicle Under Influence of Alcohol

Now putting people's lives in danger too.

Posted by Robert Hoffman on Dec. 30 2008,5:52 pm

Mrs Poke,

I honestly thought it was a DUI? :dunno:

(are they the same thing???)
Seriously-thats what I thought t was, I guess you check my records more than I do. Huh, thanks.

Happy New Years though and my best to you and yours in 2009!

"No man is ever a failure as long as he has friends (and family)" -A WONDERFUL LIFE

Posted by nphilbro on Dec. 31 2008,1:44 am

I was listening to the "Ed Schultz" show on the radio this afternoon and he had mortgage broker on. A question was posed to the guest "how do I know if I have a good real-estate agent?" The guest said - call many, ask if it's a good time to buy, if they say "sure! it's the best ever!" hang up and call again until one tells you the market hasn't bottomed out yet and offers to help you through the process.

Robert - I don't know you, but you've publicly stated the above. If I were to purchase in A.L. :rofl:

you would be the first I looked up.

I'm not sure where all the venom against you comes from, I'm just glad I'm not trying to make my living in Albert Lea. Many people really hate those that are newly successful.

Posted by minnow on Dec. 31 2008,3:05 am

Jealousy. It's why the guy who got busted with a lot of pot(allegedly) was disliked so much. Jealousy.

It seems more often than not, people get jealous if you're not working your arse off for paltry wages

It's all part of our well known Albert Lea losers mentality. If they can't have anything, neither should you.

Posted by Spock of Vulcan on Dec. 31 2008,6:18 am

Rentals are the way to go. If you can get renters that don't wreck your property, and who will pay the rent. That's the draw back, finding good renters.

There is a severe shortage of rental properties all over southern minnesota and northern iowa.

Posted by Spock of Vulcan on Dec. 31 2008,6:22 am

(minnow @ Dec. 31 2008,3:05 am)

QUOTE

Thats the story everywhere minnow.

Greed motivates most people for good or ill.

And everybody is jealous of everything all the time, pretty much.

But that's a natural human reaction, like looking at food and being hungry. Or becoming angry and violent when attacked, or weeping when we are sad.

Posted by minnow on Dec. 31 2008,8:07 am

Maybe we can criminalize that behavior as well. We have the jail space.

Posted by Common Citizen on Dec. 31 2008,10:04 am

I have to agree with Nphil and minnow about Albert Lea. It has been my experience that if you are successful in this community, people tend to watch and wait for you to make a mistake and then pounce on you. This is a sad representation of this community and I'm not proud of it. I know people who read the local fish wrap just to check out the convictions, divorces, foreclosures, etc... just to make themselves feel better and to use as gossip down at the coffee shop or church suppers or wherever else the "holier than thou's" hang out.

Robert, I have to give you creds for admitting your mistakes publicly but I'm not so sure it's the smart thing to do in this community from a business standpoint. People can be unforgiving in this town. e.g. mrspock...

I don't condone the mistakes, but the measure of a great man is how he can pick himself up and "get better" with his life after he's been knocked down a peg or two. imho.

I loathe people who attack someone for past indiscretions if its obvious the person acknowledges their mistakes and tries to fix their life. We are all human. For instance, I don't hold any hard feelings against libbies... they're just misguided people.

“For though a righteous man falls seven times, he rises again…” (Proverbs 24:16a, NIV).

Here's to 2009... :beer:

Posted by MADDOG on Dec. 31 2008,11:53 am

QUOTE

“For though a righteous man falls seven times, he rises again…” (Proverbs 24:16a

You might finish that wise saying out a little. :dunno:

24:24-25 Whoever says to the wicked, “You are in the right,” will be cursed by peoples, abhorred by nations,
but those who rebuke the wicked will have delight,
and a good blessing will come upon them.

Posted by This is my real name on Dec. 31 2008,12:08 pm

So, Robert - answer me this, if you will:

I am 4 years into a 30-year fixed, at 6%. Is it a good time to refinance (to save interest in the long run)?

I have no trouble making my mortgage payments, in fact, I make 2 extra payments a year (and I won't go to a bi-weekly, since that's essentially what I'm doing now without extra charges for "officially" doing it).

I have heard that you shouldn't refinance unless the rate drops at least two full percentage points (assuming you are keeping up with your mortgage).

What are rates looking like right now?

Posted by nosale on Dec. 31 2008,12:39 pm

(MADDOG @ Dec. 30 2008,6:04 am)

QUOTE

Some interesting reading on the Tribune site, though. Perhaps that's why all the comments were deleted?

< Minnesota Association of Realtors. >

QUOTE

Mad; I HAVE NO IDEA?

Still don't remember? Chances are you won't get censored here.

Robert,
I'm curious to the article the Maddog posted a link to the Minnesota Association of REALTORS®.

I read the article and it stated that you violated a code of ethics for the 2nd time in a 3 year period. It goes on to say that you were fined $2,000; 6 hours of real estate continuing education courses; and a 90 day suspension. If this is about you, what did you do to have this levied against you? :dunno:

I remember seeing your photo in rotation on the Century21 ad in the Albert Lea Tribune but it is no longer there. I went to the Century21 website and they don't even list you as an agent at their office. Do you work for a different Century21 now? :dunno:

Posted by nosale on Dec. 31 2008,1:13 pm

Robert,
Another question:
MEMBERS ON THE MOVE

NEW: Beth Djalali at Coldwell Banker Burnet. TRANSFER: Kelly Calvert, Duane Madson, Tom Meilander, Mike Hennes, Julie Andrews, John Mintz, Jarett Ruud, David Stevenson, Angela Clark, Tami Timbeross, Tyler Schultz, Mike Hart, Richard Hendrickson to Prudential Lovejoy Realty. DROP: Kraig Schwartz from Coldwell Banker Burnet; Laura Miles of Coffeehouse Real Estate, LLC.; Lisa Glomski from RE/MAX of Rochester. The MN Assn of REALTORS Board of Directors has terminated the REALTOR membership of Robert Hoffman, Century 21 O’Byrne Realty for three years.

< SEMAR >

Posted by MADDOG on Dec. 31 2008,1:27 pm

Looks like Robert joined Hugh's team in July 08. < robert hoffman joins century 21 >

QUOTE

I've sold over 100 porperty sales in Southern MN since moving to Albert Lea from Mpls (102 since Feb of 2006)

Who were you with previously?

Makes me wonder why the Tribune disabled comments on the article. Did it have anything to do with the postings or was it that perhaps Hugh requested the paper put a stop to it? :dunno:

Hugh is a good man. He's well known for his honest business. He helps where he can with the community even when the City fights him. Is this a case where he believed in second chances and came up short on the expectations?

Posted by White Pride on Dec. 31 2008,3:57 pm

As a person, Mr. Hoffman is a decent guy. As a realtor, in my experience, not so much. My experience rests on his representation of a buyer, who after searching a few homes that Mr. Hoffman assured was a good deal (they weren't), was encouraged by Mr. Hoffman to pay full price on a newly listed home. The buyer, as gullable as a new buyer can be, was never encouraged to make a lower offer, or negotiate terms what so ever. That, in my opinion, makes him a bad realtor for a buyer. Any time I worked with a realtor, they went the extra mile to ensure I was getting a fair price on a home, not just out to line their own pockets like Mr. Hoffman did. From what I have heard from other people's dealings with him, the story is very much similar.

Posted by corporatemisfitz on Dec. 31 2008,4:56 pm

It's unfortunate that this topic has been drawn into a public bitch session about a very positive influence in our community. Mr. Hoffman brings a tremendous amount to our community. It's his forward thinking, business oriented, community conscience that brings so much to our community. Keep up the good work Robert & don't let the haters get you down. :-)

Posted by Replicant on Dec. 31 2008,4:58 pm

Posted by jimhanson on Dec. 31 2008,5:15 pm

You would think that with all the venom and bile on this subject that he had done something SERIOUS--like run for President or Vice President on the Republican ticket or something! :sarcasm:

Posted by corporatemisfitz on Dec. 31 2008,5:29 pm

nice.

Posted by MAKER on Dec. 31 2008,9:22 pm

SO. . . . . . what I'm getting here is that its bigger news to talk trash about Hoffman than the whole "lets abuse the elders in town"?

Its like :deadhorse:

WE all make dumb choices!

I'd rather support a person who admits to mistakes than those who point them out!

Go Joey Go! :thumbsup:

Posted by hairhertz on Jan. 01 2009,2:07 am

It's always about the GOP, right, Jim?

Posted by Mamma on Jan. 01 2009,7:18 am

I'm wondering how all this crap about Robert Hoffman effects me? What is the big deal? It's his life and it has no bearing on anything in my life. Maybe it's just fun to try to make someone look bad . Seems to me that he is doing just fine.

Posted by minnow on Jan. 01 2009,7:57 am

Do you show everyone the same the consideration?

Posted by Mamma on Jan. 01 2009,5:55 pm

Well, geeze, I haven't said anything nasty about TTT for some time. Although, I think it would be interesting if he could come back and let us know how things are going for him. It would be interesting to see how the court system works.....or doesn't.

Posted by minnow on Jan. 02 2009,7:40 am

Mmmm, I guess not. :;):

"effects me? What is the big deal? It's his life and it has no bearing on anything in my life."

Ya, right...

Posted by Alfy Packer on Jan. 02 2009,9:08 am

Mmmm?

Posted by corporatemisfitz on Jan. 03 2009,11:58 am

Can't we all just get along?

Posted by MADDOG on Jan. 03 2009,1:40 pm

(Old Cracker @ Dec. 29 2008,9:39 pm)

QUOTE

5. Why hasn't Mr. Hoffman defended himself here?

I'm pretty sure he has been asked numerous questions without a direct (honest?) answer. I guess I had one I asked twice on page two of this topic. Why wouldn't Robert remember what he typed only two hours earlier?

I'd say that if Robert has changed, it is only since his difficulty with the Minnesota Association of REALTORS®. The problem is, Robert seems to still be running away from these "erors in judgement."

Sounds to me like he would be more suited for a position on local government. :sarcasm:

Posted by jimhanson on Jan. 04 2009,4:28 pm

Hairhertz--you must have forgotten the meaning of the Sarcasm sign. :sarcasm:

Posted by DexterDawg on Jan. 06 2009,9:52 am

Just an FYI, The MN Association of Realtors is not a court of law, they are a self regulatory body. They can only affect their members, and only civily, and even then only while someone is or wants to be a member. They also are broke with the current market conditions forcing many realtors to get out of the business or pull their association membership. That leaves them with only one way to get revenue to pay their high salaried employees. Fines.

If Robert did something so bad then don't you think the
MN Dept of Commerce or the justice department would get involved?

Just my .02

Posted by hairhertz on Jan. 06 2009,10:11 am

(jimhanson @ Jan. 04 2009,4:28 pm)

QUOTE

Hairhertz--you must have forgotten the meaning of the Sarcasm sign. :sarcasm:

Nope.

Posted by Joe The Plumber on Jan. 06 2009,1:08 pm

Robert Hoffman ,

Get off your knees and defend yourself. Stand up and fight for the truth. We need to hear your side of the stories.

Most people want to hear both sides of the story. :cool:

Posted by Robert Hoffman on Jan. 06 2009,3:37 pm

Joe, Ive been tring to let things settle on this topic (me). We need to talk about the sellers needs in AL, they're the ones really getting beat up. (i can take it, they have more to be concerned about)

Buyers, GREEEAT TIME TO BUY!! Period!

Sellers, I hope you bought smart or have "room to move" other wise dont try and be ballsy now if you HAVE to sell. If you WANT to sell make sure its the right idea right now...

Posted by Alfy Packer on Jan. 06 2009,6:08 pm

Boby, give it a rest! Your horn is stuck on yourself and it is time to disconnect it.

Posted by MADDOG on Jan. 07 2009,12:43 pm

(Alfy Packer @ Jan. 06 2009,6:08 pm)

QUOTE

Boby, give it a rest! Your horn is stuck on yourself and it is time to disconnect it.

Just figuring that out?

Rather than to defend himself on here (if he really needs to or not is yet to be determined), he PM'd me and said he's been doing it with others. :dunno:

Posted by Robert Hoffman on Jan. 07 2009,2:00 pm

Madd's right...and most of ya know, I have been just PMing everyone. I think it goes unsaid that I don't mind discussing..well, anything, in the open. I just figured most were gettin sick of the topic???

Im the last guy to try and hide something, I wear my heart on my sleve-eveybody knows that and Ive hardly got a problem "speaking in front of anybody"

I really have no worries-ohh Im no angel sometimes sure but its those that pretend to always be perfect that you need to really worry about!

Thanks all, take care! -Bobby (as Alfy calls me!)

...anyone do the ART SPACE SURVEY yet?
(there a post)

Posted by 58Chevy on Jan. 08 2009,3:33 pm

Robert,
If you are "the last guy to try and hide something"
Please tell everyone why you are no longer working for the Leland's....

Posted by Robert Hoffman on Jan. 08 2009,5:18 pm

I think the discusion has been more than had, dont you? June 15 08 I was with them, June 16 I was no longer with them.

I was also the one that said "I'm no Angel all the time & those who pretend like they are are the ones you should really worry about" Look into it...

I sold 90 property sales for them and learned a lot from them, good people, then I moved on and just had the best sales in December I've ever had getting a chance to work for great people.

So what ever your crush is on me move on. I did. Are you the last one to figure out I can man up to my faults and have. These petty attacks never turn out to be fruitful. Think yer tough, wanna dance? You have such a crush on me you signed up on AL.com to be somebody... Hey, welcome to the club-we've got jackets.

Anyway, get over yourself. If your going to be a coward and hide behind a chat room thats what ya got then. Man up and approach me and discuss something if you need.

Robert Joseph Hoffman, Real Estate Professional
507-402-4692

Posted by Joe The Plumber on Jan. 08 2009,5:32 pm

(58Chevy @ Jan. 08 2009,3:33 pm)

QUOTE

Robert,
If you are "the last guy to try and hide something"
Please tell everyone why you are no longer working for the Leland's....

Robert Hoffman,

What I don't understand is how Leland Reality can let someone go for a DUI or DWI ? As long as the employee can get a tempory driving permit , they could still do there job.

I remember Ken's son had some kind of public problem like this also.

Posted by minnow on Jan. 08 2009,6:04 pm

What does Hoffman's personal life have to do with anything? I usually seperate a man from his career. Most people have many careers in a life time.

Drinking and driving? hell yes I've done it hundreds and hundreds of times. Got popped in 1985 and was dismissed. Never got popped again. You'd be amazed at what I've got away with. :angel:

So what?

All life revolves around money anyhow. Just follow the money and almost any mystery can be solved. Here's what my dad told me about money when I was a boy.

He said, "Money isn't real minnow. It doesn't matter. It only seems like it does. When you're up it's never really as good as it seems and when you're bust, you never think you're gonna be up again, but life goes on Minnow. Never forget that."

"

Posted by AnEngrsWife on Jan. 08 2009,6:20 pm

(Joe The Plumber @ Jan. 08 2009,5:32 pm)

QUOTE

Robert Hoffman,

What I don't understand is how Leland Reality can let someone go for a DUI or DWI ?

I didn't see anything that said he was fired from Leland's because of his DWI or that he was fired from Leland's at all.
IF he were fired, I could imagine that it would have to do with his inability to return phone calls, or his inability to work with people unless they had tons of money OR....... well, I just don't know. I can only speak from my personal experience with him.
All I know is that you, Mr. Hoffman, make it seem like you are an exceptional guy, but, forging signatures of clients and claiming to be in organizations that you are not, are NOT characteristics of an "EXCEPTIONAL" person.
This is of course, just my opinion. If anyone thinks differently, more power to you; you know a side of Mr. Hoffman that I do not know and will never know because I choose to not associate with him anymore. And I certainly would NOT suggest him to anyone who is currently in the market for a new home.
Again, just my opinion.

Posted by hymiebravo on Jan. 08 2009,7:44 pm

If Mother Theresa of Calcutta were alive today.

She would be in Albert Lea, Minnesota selling houses.

Posted by Joe The Plumber on Jan. 08 2009,8:17 pm

Hymiebravo,

:rofl:

AMEN TO THAT. :rofl:

Posted by 58Chevy on Jan. 08 2009,9:09 pm

Wow. Robert , you have some obvious issues. I ask a question regarding your former employer and from that you think a person has a crush on you?!@#@@# That's creepy. I must have struck a nerve. From that response you just don't sound like the "Mary Poppins" or "heart on your sleeve" heck of nice guy that you work so hard to portray yourself as.
You need to get over yourself little fella, there's not much of a market for a balding, heartless, no-good sack of ****.

Instead of taking classes on real estate, your time might be better spent in therapy...just a thought.

And I have no idea what bumper sticker you are talking about. As a matter of fact, I could hardly follow anything you wrote....very bizzare....
Fired for a DUI?, hmmmm.....DOUBTFUL

Posted by Spock of Vulcan on Jan. 08 2009,11:31 pm

(minnow @ Jan. 08 2009,6:04 pm)

QUOTE

What does Hoffman's personal life have to do with anything?

Member those jealous AL losers?

Dat's why...

Posted by Spock of Vulcan on Jan. 08 2009,11:33 pm

(minnow @ Jan. 08 2009,6:04 pm)

QUOTE

He said, "Money isn't real minnow.

Good point! I'd agree...

Posted by Joe The Plumber on Jan. 09 2009,2:38 pm

Robert Hoffman,

Thanks for the info in the PM. Things make more sence when you get both sides of a story. KEEP FIGHTING and remember this is Albert Lea, DOG EAT DOG TOWN. :frusty:

Posted by MADDOG on Jan. 09 2009,4:16 pm

So, he's Pm'd you his reasoning too?

Makes it pretty apparent he does not want to take the chance that someone or certain people might see his version. :dunno:

QUOTE

Please tell everyone why you are no longer working for the Leland's....

QUOTE

I think the dui discusion has been more than had, dont you

No answer to the question there.

Posted by 58Chevy on Jan. 10 2009,11:23 am

Robert,
So are you sticking with the story that drunk driving is what led to your separation from Leland's. You've quoted that you don't mind discussing things in the open so it's weird that you've just been pm'ing people....
javascript:emoticon(' :dunno:

Posted by Elk Hunter on Jan. 10 2009,1:06 pm

Robert can get into the details if he wants too, but it really is nobody else's business. I anticipate that some others on her have been let go from jobs and/or quit. Do you want to share your names? employers names? reason for separation? I doubt it. As for me, even if I felt my employer was totally wrong, I would not publicize it if I was going to remain in the community. Why burn that bridge and/or give the former employer a reason to speak negatively of you?

Actually, there are often two versions for why there is a seperation -- the employer's and the employee's. In fact, a stated reason may be different from the real reason due to confidentiality issues or legal concerns. If there is any type of a serverance package, confidentiality is almost always required. I am not saying that this is the case here, as I have no idea. However, there may be reasons that Robert may not want to discuss this further other than "he wants to hide something".

Posted by jimhanson on Jan. 10 2009,1:25 pm

Excellent post, Elk Hunter! :thumbsup:

Robert has been more forthright on issues than anyone else--by addressing the issues and answering questions--by using his real name--and by PM'ing people.

Posted by 58Chevy on Jan. 10 2009,3:42 pm

It IS everyone's business when he has devastated the lives of multiple families here in this fine town by grossly misrepresenting homes and forging signatures during those transactions. This has left people THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS of dollars in debt because of his lies. Once a house is sold, he runs off with the money, never to be heard from again. The poor home owners are left to deal with the path of destruction created by this "exceptional and forthright" guy....yeah right, I cannot believe that so many of you are still clueless about this man. How many more red flags do you need here?

I just would like to warn people about doing business with him. I would hate to see anymore nice families go through such horrible ordeals. The last thing that Albert Lea needs is another shady character.
Minnow, I never brought up a DUI, Robert did. I agree (for the most part) that one's work life and personal life be separate...however when one's personal life and work life are consistant in rule breaking. It makes one wonder this man's morales....And as far as him being let go for getting a DUI, that is a damn lie!....That's why "Mr. Joe the Plumber", you won't see Robert standing up for the "truth" or hearing a whole lot about "his side of the story". Even a talented liar (and when I say talented liar I mean he is one of the best, most well versed LIARs in the world) like himself knows to keep quiet once in a while for fear of incriminating himself. And Mr. Dexter Dawg, I can almost guarantee you that The MN Dept of Commerce IS involved....these things take time. We just need to be patient.
So Robert I wouldn't be slamming me by telling me to "wash your car " or asked me how the "paper route" is going....because when everything catches up with you those might be YOUR only options...and thats if your lucky. Besides I have much more respect for ANYBODY who makes an honest living vs someone who makes
money by being crooked and taking advantage of people...

Posted by minnow on Jan. 10 2009,4:22 pm

It's called caveat emptor. You must do your own "due diligence".

Never trust or even pay attention to any realtor or car saleman's opinion. It isn't worth anything. These guys aren't product pros or anything. I know more about homes than he does. He's no inspector, no contractor. They're BS'rs. Where have you been? This is the way the games been played for 100 years.

Posted by Robert Hoffman on Jan. 10 2009,4:53 pm

Chev,

Use your real name and I'll sell you all the rights to my book, you seem to know half the chapters already...

Seriously? Why would you spend so much time on my life, thats a lil much don't cha think.

(...jealous huh) :cheer:

Something you did turned into my fault somehow...Sorry 'bout that!

Hey Chev, 4 posts on AL.com so far and each one about me, nice! :crazy:

Posted by AnEngrsWife on Jan. 10 2009,5:12 pm

You call him a sissy for knowing that you forged names on papers for clients? And took money from them?? That should be public frickin knowledge so that people stay away from your greedy a$$. As a customer whose had her name forged on paperwork in a (automotive) deal, I know how people feel to have their names forged. As far as i'm concerned, you should be in jail and BARRED from having any ties to careers where you can potentially pull this crap again. You seem to think people shouldn't be ticked at you for stuff that you do. Let me tell you, you are not GOD and you have no right to pull this $hit on anyone. I hope someone does it to you Mr. Hoffman.

Posted by mrspock on Jan. 10 2009,5:27 pm

Robert has been a thief his whole life. He has pissed many people off. He has stolen from me, and cheated me out of money as well. His whole life theft and lying has followed him around.

Posted by Old Cracker on Jan. 10 2009,5:36 pm

(58Chevy @ Jan. 10 2009,3:42 pm)

QUOTE

It IS everyone's business when he has devastated the lives of multiple families here in this fine town by grossly misrepresenting homes and forging signatures during those transactions.

The forging signatures during home sales would explain why people/customers are so mad at him.

Posted by MAKER on Jan. 10 2009,9:23 pm

I cannot agree with signing other's names or other unethical ploys to make money . . .

. . . but i could really careless what 58 Chevy or AnEngrsWife have to say unless you are honest also on why you have such a passion for Hoffman. Give all your personal details on why! I think you need to tell us exactly what house you got screwed on and tell us your name. . . .

. . . can't do it? Then shut your pie hole!!!!! You are no better then the one you attack!

Gonna step up to the plate?

Anyone taking bets?

Posted by AnEngrsWife on Jan. 10 2009,10:23 pm

(MAKER @ Jan. 10 2009,9:23 pm)

QUOTE

I have no idea who you are, but I don't owe you my f*ckin name. I also didn't buy a house from this loser. I am friends with a few real estate people and have talked to people that he has forged their names on documents.
I wouldn't have to have a personal experience in something to be passionate about it either. So, why don't you shut your "PIE HOLE" as you so delicately put it. You don't have to take my opinion if you don't want to, I force nothing on anyone. This is a discussion board and if you don't like, then f**k off!!

Posted by 58Chevy on Jan. 10 2009,10:42 pm

"Maker"
Not that I need to explain anything to you...but if you had any business sense at all you might realize that there are still many impending legalities regarding the transactions of these homes. By handing out mine or any of the victim's names would not be beneficial to them...not only that, Robert has a criminal background and it wouldn't be below him to harass these families or cause some other type of damage. (Rumor has it that since Robert has "left" Leland Realty, there has been damage to their property)....

There, I have given you my reason for why I can not disclose my identity. Now, why don't you tell everyone who you are, big-talker.

This is an open forum, I will discuss what I want. If you have a problem with my comments, ignore them. You're getting involved in a discussion that is obviously way over your head and does not pertain to you. Anyone that uses the term "pie hole" shows monumental ignorance. I can only presume that you are a close friend of Robert's....same mentality.

Again, I am just looking out for those that are in the process of buying or selling homes or plan to in the near future....There are many qualified realtors out there, Minnow, you can't stereotype them all because of those that are unethical like Robert....

~ 58 Chev (AKA 78 Pinto, wiener, sissy)...I have to admit I'm still laughing... I don't believe I have ever been called a wiener :clap:

Posted by minnow on Jan. 10 2009,11:24 pm

No, no, no...

You're missing the point. Realtors do not know their product. They only play show and tell.
In the same way the car sellers are not mechanics. Do not assume any realtor knows anything about the home. 99% of the time they don't and the other 1% constitutes rudimentary and basic things. They show you a home from a list. A list that you selected from homes you wanted to see.

Posted by Spock of Vulcan on Jan. 11 2009,6:15 am

Well, sure you're afraid to give a name...

Because if you did, Hoffman could probably sue you for slander, if what you say isn't totally accurate.

Posted by Spock of Vulcan on Jan. 11 2009,6:17 am

You should remember, your dealing with REAL people here that are probably pretty close by.

Saying things that aren't true, or that incriminate one. May just come back to burn you...

Posted by Spock of Vulcan on Jan. 11 2009,6:22 am

If you want to give your real name, or incidents that you have actually witnessed yourself. Come forward, and that will probably carry a lot of weight. It should also insulate you from an repercusssions.

If not, I'd watch where I was treading...

(That's just some good legal advice, you can take it for what you think it's worth)

Posted by Old Cracker on Jan. 11 2009,7:55 am

(Spock of Vulcan @ Jan. 11 2009,6:17 am)

QUOTE

You should remember, your dealing with REAL people here that are probably pretty close by.

Saying things that aren't true, or that incriminate one. May just come back to burn you...

Burning down forum members homes is arson. It might also get you banned from the forum for violating forum rules.

Posted by DexterDawg on Jan. 11 2009,8:19 am

(58Chevy @ Jan. 10 2009,3:42 pm)

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And Mr. Dexter Dawg, I can almost guarantee you that The MN Dept of Commerce IS involved....these things take time. We just need to be patient.

No they aren't and won't.

Posted by DexterDawg on Jan. 11 2009,8:37 am

OK Well I'm new to this forum, but not sure if I will stay. I don't know if I can handle all the negativity. After reading some of the senseless posts regarding this topic, and the way they back it up. Example: anengrswife saying she knows what she is talking about because she is friends with some real estate agents. How in the world would that qualify them to be privy to closed door private discussions? Just because I mop the floors in the pentagon doesn't mean I know the nuclear launch codes. One thing I've learned in my time in this town is everyone thinks they know the real story about someones private life and 90% of the time they are wrong. Rember playing telephone as a kid? Albert Lea is like a really big game of telephone. No one likes the outsiders or the young professionals, then they complain about why this town doesn't grow!? If everyone spent an equal amount of time trying to figure out something good to do in our town as they do complaining about people that don't affect them on here imagine how things could be. I just want to know what is so wrong in your own life (58Chevy, AnEngrsWife, mrspock, MADDOG) that you have to complain and spread garbage about others. Most psychologists say that you project your own problems. Grow up kids, and take a look in the mirror before you start throwing stones.

Posted by 58Chevy on Jan. 11 2009,8:48 am

Mr spock of vulcan, so you're an attorney?......cause you're handing out legal advice.......
It surprises me that you didn't catch on to my last paragraph explaining why giving out personal information right now would not be beneficial to those involved.

I am not a malicious person. What I say is the truth. So I am hardly concerned about "slander"

So are you threatening me that something bad will happen to myself since "People are close-by"

wow...this town is really going to hell isn't it. It's too bad people have become so violent.

Posted by Robert Hoffman on Jan. 11 2009,12:32 pm

FIRST THINGS FIRST; thanks gang for the support or the positive comments. We're dealing with the lowest common denomonator I guess with a few of these members...why we've spent this much time???

How's everybodys Sunday goin? I see we've been busy.

The best points made here are that NOTHING you say while hiding behind a fake name and without backing up anything you say with details has anything but malious intent toward hurting someone. WHOS THE REAL BAD GUYS THEN?

Did someone say I sold a car??? What in the world is your bored butt talking about? ...and all this discussion of these thousands of dollars of harm Ive caused? What?

Youre not mad at me youre mad at yourself.

Im nice enough not to call you out old buddy-Im man enough to use MY real name; Im also man enough not to post yours. You shouldnt have to go through what youre trying to put me thru. It hurts and I am actually human so your doing what you set out to. Makes you a bigger man than. And as for that gal, "Angers-Wife"...I dunno about you???

Just do this. Say all the nasty things you can with all the proof you claim to have and stop just hurting me and actually take me out with all this knowledge you posess about me.

Until then, you talk about "forgery" well, what are you doin? I think saying nasty things about a guy with no backing or cause other than harm... Nice people, Thats right up there with obeying all the traffic laws, and giving to the united way-you seem like greeaat people.

nobodys going to lie and act like all this doesnt hurt, but i have so many great people in my life and amazing people that I get to work for that...I already forgot about the jerks

Posted by Robert Hoffman on Jan. 11 2009,12:39 pm

BACK TO WORK...

...did ya notice the ONLY real estate professional who had 4 open houses this weekeend? they were actually busy too. ive got another in 15 mins.

as for the ney-sayers;

I just sold a home in AL to a couple from Rochester. I wont say who now, its NOT public knowledge until the closing, thoug they did give me permission.

They are married with one son and a new baby on the way. She works for Mayo and he owns his own business. They bought a home that was sitting vaccant.

lets look at this for a second;

we just took a vacant home and filled it with (soon) 4 new Albert Leans. not to ention his biz and their tax base and money into our community.

Oh and PS, its less than a 150k but its the most expensive home currently pending in Freeborn Cty.

Theres only about 12 pending right now and a few are my sales...

Im doing all i can to help ALL OF US, so far so good huh!

and PS they are VERY happy clients!!

thanks all, Have a great weekend. Ive got anotherOpen House come say hi, i advertise in the Trib!

See ya, love ya, hoffa!

Posted by minnow on Jan. 11 2009,1:57 pm

^Are you bragging or complaining? I'm confused.

Posted by Robert Hoffman on Jan. 11 2009,4:02 pm

Min,

Bragging mainly buddy. I only had 10 mins in between opens and 13 cups of coffee so it just may be a bit tough to follow. i get a lil animated sometimes...

I was just sayin that a new young couple with kids is moving into a vacant house in AL from Roch. i thinkl its an overall success story compared to the other shiz being slang about me and Real Estate in general.

We've got a vacant house filled, a new Mayo employee, a small buisness owner that emoployes another person from AL and their two kids.

Okay so mainly just braggin

...not a bad weeks work and I work 7 days a week, lets see what next week brings bud?

See everybody at Mike, Larry and Ellens first Council Meeting on Moday nite! :peaceout:

Posted by AnEngrsWife on Jan. 11 2009,4:18 pm

(Robert Hoffman @ Jan. 11 2009,12:32 pm)

QUOTE

I think you need to learn how to read Robert. I didn't say you sold me a car, I said I know how people feel that have had their names forged as it happened to me when making a deal on a car.
If you're such a stand up guy, why don't you explain to us all why you felt it necessary to forge names on paperwork not once but TWICE.
I have no reason to lie to anyone. But I certainly will not put my name out there for someone else to make up lies about me. I can see it now, I give my side of the story, which is the truth, then you come back and say, whatever lies you feel necessary to say.
I thought you were a nice guy when I first met you, then I found out very quickly that you were only out for yourself and didn't care who you stepped on to get where you are now.
As far as where I get my information, I won't share that because I don't believe in smearing GOOD people! I will say however that these people have not lied to me yet and I don't believe they will. I've also met quite a few people over the last few months and when people are involved in bad situations, they share their stories so hopefully someone else can avoid their misfortunes.
Anyway, I don't feel that I have to defend myself and my experiences to anyone. I have no reason to lie or act like someone i'm not.
Oh, one more thing, as far as hurting you, Robert, If the truth hurts, maybe you should contemplate the consequences of your actions before you carry them out. If you did that, you wouldn't be hurt by the truth when it comes out.

Just a thought.

Posted by MAKER on Jan. 11 2009,4:24 pm

AnEngrsWife - So. . . . . you are willing to slander someone who didnt harm you? Whats that make you . . . an angel? :crazy:

(oh and if you dont like what i have to say you can take your own advice -

"I force nothing on anyone. This is a discussion board and if you don't like, then f**k off!!" words from the great AnEngrsWife

PS By the way you talk you had to have really been worked over some how by Hoffman. Did he promise you a double wide and only deliver a single?

58 Chevy - Its not over my head. If you truely cannot tell more because you are involved in impending legalities well I guess that stinks and wish you the best. I do hope you elaborate more then when this is finished.

I'm glad your response wasnt filled with as much harsh language as Mrs. Potty Mouth.

I do have to admit that I like "78 Pinto" - but I just hope you dont ever get rear-ended!

Posted by AnEngrsWife on Jan. 11 2009,4:31 pm

Gotta love that ignore function.

Posted by Robert Hoffman on Jan. 11 2009,5:50 pm

I worked 7 days this week, spoke to God and said "THANKS," voulenteered my time in numerous capasities, told people I loved them, took care of my girlfriend and spent time with my family...

You sat around making up things while hiding behind your computer...

Nobody cares about this string of post anymore; Im even going to retire from it.

Take care all. I'll talk to you soon.
(maybe even in person and using my real name and actual facts and details???)

-Robert Hoffman, Real Estate Professional
507-402-4692 :thumbsup:

Posted by AnEngrsWife on Jan. 11 2009,6:02 pm

Make all the jokes you want about it Robert. At least I don't have to lie about anything and I haven't screwed anyone over. Thanks though, you are starting to show that you aren't the guy you pretend to be ;)
I wonder how the people whose homes you list would feel about you telling buyers not to purchase certain homes because of who lives next door or because of the amount of work that needs to be done to the homes.......

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Jan. 11 2009,9:13 pm

QUOTE

I wonder how the people whose homes you list would feel about you telling buyers not to purchase certain homes because of who lives next door or because of the amount of work that needs to be done to the homes.......

Now wait a minute, if I were looking at a house I would want full disclosure on the property that I am about plunk down some hard earned cash. I would fully expect the Realtor to be honest with me. To do so other-wise would be subject to a lawsuit filed by me.

I don't know Mr. Robert so I cannot judge him, his past is just that, his and its the past, as the only Hoffman that I know is Scott and he was quite the character back in the day.

Posted by Spock of Vulcan on Jan. 12 2009,5:15 am

AnEngrsWife,Jan. 11 2009,4:18 pm[quote]

I think you need to learn how to read Robert. I didn't say you sold me a car, I said I know how people feel that have had their names forged as it happened to me when making a deal on a car.
If you're such a stand up guy, why don't you explain to us all why you felt it necessary to forge names on paperwork not once but TWICE.

Where are you getting this information from?

I have no reason to lie to anyone. But I certainly will not put my name out there for someone else to make up lies about me.

Oh, you mean like Hoffman has?

I can see it now, I give my side of the story, which is the truth, then you come back and say, whatever lies you feel necessary to say.

Sounds just like what your doing, doesn't it?

I thought you were a nice guy when I first met you, then I found out very quickly that you were only out for yourself and didn't care who you stepped on to get where you are now.

It sounds more like you use to date hoffman or something

As far as where I get my information, I won't share that because I don't believe in smearing GOOD people!

You don't appear to mind doing it to Hoffman though

I will say however that these people have not lied to me yet and I don't believe they will.

You should stirve for facts not faith

I've also met quite a few people over the last few months and when people are involved in bad situations, they share their stories so hopefully someone else can avoid their misfortunes.
Anyway, I don't feel that I have to defend myself and my experiences to anyone. I have no reason to lie or act like someone i'm not.

I'm sure Hoffman would probably say the same thing

Oh, one more thing, as far as hurting you, Robert, If the truth hurts, maybe you should contemplate the consequences of your actions before you carry them out. If you did that, you wouldn't be hurt by the truth when it comes out.

Just a thought.

Yeah you definetly sound like you guys use to date

Posted by Old Cracker on Jan. 12 2009,7:50 am

(AnEngrsWife @ Jan. 10 2009,10:23 pm)

QUOTE

It's probably not fair to bash this guy over and over with no facts or names to back it up. Next time try this:

Minnesota Association of REALTORS

Repeat Code of Ethics Violators

October, 2008
ROBERT HOFFMAN was found in violation of the Code of Ethics. This was a second violation in a three year period.
Article Violated: 16
Disciplinary Action: 3 Year Letter of Reprimand; $2,000 fine; six hours of real estate continuing education courses; 90 day suspension.

Posted by Elk Hunter on Jan. 12 2009,10:35 am

I don't know Hoffman, but I do believe in innocent until proven guilty. I also believe in allowing the accused to be able to face his accuser (i.e. cross-examination). Those are two foundations of our entire criminal system -- and you what you people are alleging are crimes.

If he really did all of these terrible things, then go to law enforcement with it. Guess what though -- law enforcement will need facts and details. Maybe even names!!! Without those things, law enforcement will call "B.S." -- which is what everyone on this board should do . . . until and unless there is proof.

As things now stand, there are all sorts of rumors and some guy (Hoffman) is on here saying much more than I ever would. If I knew Hoffman, I'd call him up and give him 10 good reasons why he should not play this little game. He has nothing to gain. He is dealing with anonymous and vague allegations. If they are false, he CAN fight it on here . . . but those accusing him are not going to change their opinions of him anyway or believe his side of the story no matter what he says. By posting, he is just feeding the flames. The accusers have obvious axes to grind.

If they are true, he also has nothing to gain on here. Even IF he confessed on this website (I don't have any idea if a confession is even in line), it is doubtful that his accusers would accept it. IF the allegations are true, he should just shut up and let law enforcement and his attorney (if he has one) sort it out.

If I were to be introduced to Hoffman today, I'd disragard almost everything I've heard about him on this website. Most of it means absolutely nothing.

As for the professional board issue . . . that does tell me something, but not nearly as much as actual evidence does. The info provided apparently shows some type of findings and a penalty. I don't know the facts, who filed the complaint (a disgruntled girlfriend or a legitimate former client), whether it was contested, what the "burdon of proof" was, whether there was an appeal, etc. Heck, in some professions, if you accidentaly miss a continueing ed. program you get a reprimand. It does not mean you do a bad job or are dishonest . . . it means you missed an Ed. program.

This is the garbage that gives this site a bad name . . . and leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Hoffman's innocense or guilt has nothing to do with it -- this is just not (in my opinion) the appropriate way to handle issues like this.

Frankly, I understand why those bringing the attacks will not share their names. I'd have very little respect for them given how they have attacked this guy without facts. Their refusals to provide specifics about there allegations casts serious doubt on what they are saying. Now, IF criminal charges were actually brought, and IF there was a conviction, then SOME of my respect for them would be restored . . . but not all of it. (They still would have handled this forum dialog wrong.)

Posted by ICU812 on Jan. 12 2009,10:48 am

QUOTE

Frankly

Now there's a name you rarely hear.

Posted by Elk Hunter on Jan. 12 2009,10:57 am

"Surely you are mistaken."

"Don't call me Shirley!!"

Posted by Old Cracker on Jan. 12 2009,1:01 pm

(Elk Hunter @ Jan. 12 2009,10:35 am)

QUOTE

If I knew Hoffman, I'd call him up and give him 10 good reasons why he should not play this little game. He has nothing to gain. He is dealing with anonymous and vague allegations. If they are false, he CAN fight it on here . . . but those accusing him are not going to change their opinions of him anyway or believe his side of the story no matter what he says. By posting, he is just feeding the flames. The accusers have obvious axes to grind.

This a post that all of us that use the net should live by. :clap:

If you ever see something about yourself on the web, true or false, don't respond to it. Pretend your out of the country till it fades away into the sunset. 99% of the time you can't win.

Posted by hymiebravo on Jan. 12 2009,2:10 pm

(ICU812 @ Jan. 12 2009,10:48 am)

QUOTE

Frankly

Now there's a name you rarely hear.

That's our "new" United States Senator.

Frankly.

Posted by AnEngrsWife on Jan. 12 2009,2:13 pm

For this being an ANONYMOUS discussion board, we sure do catch hell for trying to remain anonymous. It seems that if we want to express opinions or concerns on a topic, we are looked at as the bad people. If we don't reveal our identities then we are still bad people and no one wants to believe the things we are saying are true.
I have not used any names here because I feel that even though these people have some issues with Robert, they don't deserve their names strung thru the mud for not having done anything wrong.
Now, given the above, My name is Melissa. I met Mr. Hoffman when I went to look at a house and Mr. Leland wasn't available to show it, so he sent Robert instead. We ended up looking at a couple of different places that day. The second one we looked at needed a bit of work but it was workable. Even though the work could be done, Robert gave me all sorts of reasons why I didn't want the house, including that the City Manager lived not far away from the house.
Within the next few days, I contacted Robert about another house and he said he'd see what he could do about me renting the home to start with since he knew the guy who owned it and it had been on the market for quite some time. I never heard back from Robert and since then he has never returned a call that i've made to him.
As far as knowing about the forged signatures, I had the opportunity to meet the couple that he did this to. Quite some time after meeting them, I talked to a few other real estate professionals that I am friends with, who told me what had happened as well.
So, there you go. You have my name and my story. Do with it whatever you want. I have never dated Robert nor would I ever, considering i'm married and all. Now, if someone wants to hold anything against me, go ahead. This is a discussion board and I can just as easily delete my "membership" to it. This does not in any way affect my personal life.

Posted by hymiebravo on Jan. 12 2009,2:28 pm

(Old Cracker @ Jan. 12 2009,1:01 pm)

QUOTE

(Elk Hunter @ Jan. 12 2009,10:35 am)

QUOTE

This a post that all of us that use the net should live by. :clap:

If you ever see something about yourself on the web, true or false, don't respond to it. Pretend your out of the country till it fades away into the sunset. 99% of the time you can't win.

People should be allowed to say what's on their mind here.

If you want to be stifled or reprimanded, go back to back to grade school/jr high/high school etc.

Or an Albert Lea City Council meeting.

I find it laughable how people have a tendency to get all indignant about what others say here. Make claims about some sort of high fallutin discourse and what-not.

When their real gripe is mostly because they disagree or don't like what somebody says.

If you say something they LIKE. Then they will give you lots more leeway.

For example, if you rip on liberals here. You aren't going to be scrutinized that greatly, by the "usual suspects". lol

BUT, try to play fast and loose the other way. Say something bad about the Republicans or Bush. Or not even fast and loose. . . and watch the reign of terror ensue. lol

I personally find the "raw" nature of this forum to be part of it's appeal.

Posted by Elk Hunter on Jan. 12 2009,6:54 pm

True -- people can say pretty much whatever they want on here. Whether others choose to believe what is said is entirely different. I've seen a couple of pretty good people get basically ruined by rumors . . . and I choose not to believe allegations of this nature without proof. Everyone else can make up their own minds. I've "spoken" mine.

As to the "conservative vs. liberal" angle above, I really have no clue as to what its relationship to the Hoffman situation is. Are you saying that some people are defending Hoffman because he is conservative? or that some of the blind accusers are being critiqued because they are liberal?

Now that I think about it, due process for the accused is seen often as a liberal cause. If you think asking for proof of allegations is a conservative tendancy, that is fine with me.

Frankly, this has nothing to do with politics. Surely, you must understand!!

Posted by 58Chevy on Jan. 12 2009,9:20 pm

First of all, I admire AnEngersWife for coming out and handing over her identity to you people. It is sad that many of you just wouldn't take her for her word. Like her, I do not have anything to lie about( you just can't make this stuff up)...nothing to gain, nothing to lose.
I just want to WARN people about Robert. I will not list anymore things that I know, since some of you feel "its not fair". You can find that out for yourself....hopefully NOT THE HARDWAY. Robert certainly does not play fair and if you can't yet get that through your thick skulls from the validated information that IS out there on Robert then that is your own problem.
Start by researching the MN Realtors Association. Is Robert even a member at all anymore or did they REMOVE him?
Hey, Robert Do you get to use MLS listings anymore?
Robert, Where's your key to the infamous locked boxes outside of homes that are up for sale? Do you still have those privileges? Hmmm, do ya?
Robert is a wolf in sheep's clothing. He speaks with a forked tongue. A con man through and through. But don't believe me, look up the supporting facts....His Herberger's theft, his code of ethics violations, shall I go on?

jimhansons signature pretty much sums up what drew me into this discussion in the first place...Nothing angers this conservative more than reading the revolting lies of that twisted narcissistic puke. He has such grandiose ideations about himself. I could no longer sit back and watch him brag to all of you about how wondrous he thinks he is when I know he is so terribly false.
Robert is his own worst enemy....Things WILL catch up with him.

Posted by hymiebravo on Jan. 12 2009,9:22 pm

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True -- people can say pretty much whatever they want on here

I like that. You don't apparently.

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Whether others choose to believe what is said is entirely different.

Gee thanks for clearing that one up for us.

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I've seen a couple of pretty good people get basically ruined by rumors

Got any facts or proof, to back THAT up? I mean I'm just holding you to your own criteria.

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As to the "conservative vs. liberal" angle above, I really have no clue as to what its relationship to the Hoffman situation

I was addressing the issue of how others want to place restrictions on what people say here. I really couldn't care less about the subject of this paticular thread.

To me it's just another Alan Kneelsen thread as far as I'm concerned. Translate that to mean, this forum when it's not at its best.

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Now that I think about it, due process for the accused is seen often as a liberal cause. If you think asking for proof of allegations is a conservative tendancy, that is fine with me

Well if you're intimating/inferring/suggesting that conservatives ( you know the people who won't say that they are republican)are scum who want to just railroad people, when it comes to their due process.

That's fine with me as well.

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Frankly, this has nothing to do with politics. Surely, you must understand!!

I'm not really certain as to what you're saying, there.

I think you may have watched Police Academy one too many times though. :rofl:

Posted by howie on Jan. 12 2009,11:59 pm

(hymiebravo @ Jan. 12 2009,9:22 pm)

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True -- people can say pretty much whatever they want on here

I like that. You don't apparently.

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Whether others choose to believe what is said is entirely different.

Gee thanks for clearing that one up for us.

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I've seen a couple of pretty good people get basically ruined by rumors

Got any facts or proof, to back THAT up? I mean I'm just holding you to your own criteria.

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As to the "conservative vs. liberal" angle above, I really have no clue as to what its relationship to the Hoffman situation

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Now that I think about it, due process for the accused is seen often as a liberal cause. If you think asking for proof of allegations is a conservative tendancy, that is fine with me

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Frankly, this has nothing to do with politics. Surely, you must understand!!

I'm not really certain as to what you're saying, there.

I think you may have watched Police Academy one too many times though. :rofl:

I think the point Elk Hunter is trying to make is that this site could be more, but it won't be because sooner or later most threads degrade into little more than name calling.

Posted by irisheyes on Jan. 13 2009,5:46 am

(58Chevy @ Jan. 12 2009,9:20 pm)

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First of all, I admire AnEngersWife for coming out and handing over her identity to you people.

She didn't actually hand over her identity. How many Melissa's do you think we have in the Albert Lea area? Even narrowing it down to the ones who are married, I'd say at least 30 or 40. So unless Robert remembers, that doesn't really help anyone who cares to know.

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It is sad that many of you just wouldn't take her for her word. Like her, I do not have anything to lie about

If you expect everyone to automatically believe you or her, you came to the wrong place. The word of a stranger isn't worth all that much. Anything else seems gullible to me.

I'm not saying I'll automatically not believe either of you though, cause I don't know. I don't even care really, I just wanted to respond that I disagree with those statements.

As for this thread, it's getting old. You keep rehashing the same rumors over and over again. Nothing new happening. Just what your friends have told you. And EngrsWife, you had what you consider a bad house showing, but that's it. Most people complain cause a salesman was too pushy. He tries to talk you out of it, and you're displeased with him for it?

Oh, and I should probably write a disclaimer here. I haven't met, or even talked to any of the parties involved in this. :thumbsup:

Posted by Alfy Packer on Jan. 13 2009,6:50 am

One needs to understand that a Realtor gets paid by the seller for getting him the best price for the sale of his property. If you are just a looker, the realtor has no obligation to you. Bobby here needs to be in the hunt for the money. It costs him time and money to take people around and if they are not buying why would he do it? If you have been past down to from one realtor to another in the same office, then you switched from a buyer to a renter just before the phone went dead, I think it would be safe to assume those realtor's no longer feel that you will get them to their payday. Understanding what everyone gets out of a transaction will help you to get a fair deal.

Posted by Elk Hunter on Jan. 13 2009,2:53 pm

Melissa -- Angers Wife --

Did you have a written agreement with Robert or his office? (There are situations where the agent represents just the buyer; and other situations where the agent represents just the seller; and still other situations where the agent represents both.)

If you had a written agreement with Robert, it should spell out the duties that he owed to you. If you had not actually "hired" him (i.e. no signed agreement), I don't think that he owed you any duties -- other than to not committing fraud. If the agent did not represent you, I believe that his only duty would be to the seller -- if it was a house that he had listed. MLS often plays into this somehow, but I don't know for sure how.

Possibly a relator could clarify these issues.

Also, if the seller has an agent and a buyer has an agent, do they typically end up splitting the fee? Or is there a seperate fee that the buyer's agent gets above and beyond the fee provided for in the seller's listing agreement with his agent?

The way relators work, it is actually surprising that they don't get more ethics complaints against them. Just think of all of the conflicts of interest a relator has in some scenerios -- e.g. Agent "Larry" has numerous houses in the market. A new family comes to town and asks Larry to show him around town and find possible houses for the family to buy. New family wants the best house at the lowest price . . . but Larry's seller-clients want to maximize the sale price.

How does Larry do a good job of representing everyone? Simply put, he can't.

Another example -- Say the new family says, "we like this house and we'd like you to present an offer of $125,000, but we'd be willing to go to $140,000 if push comes to shove." Larry has the listing and calls the Seller, and the Seller, who says "no" to $125,000 but would sell it for something more than that, and he asks Larry what he thinks the counter-offer should be. Both parties want Larry to get the best deal possible for them. Ethically, he is stuck. Would he withdraw from the deal and tell the two sides that each side needs its own agent? Doubtful.

Add one more twist -- what if the New Family says, "we like both of these houses -- we'll pay $140,000 for #1, but we'll only go to $120,000 for #2." Larry has the listing on both houses -- but with different commission rates.

The conflicts of interest that relators deal with must come up almost weekly. Lessons to be learned -- 1) make sure you know who the relator represents; and 2 take what "your" relator says with a grain of salt. Is he looking out for you? for the seller? or for his own commission?

Robert - how do you deal with these types of situations?

Everyone else -- Why does the public use relators so often? Selling or buying a house is not rocket science. Even if you are not "mechanical", you can hire an inspector to do an inspection (his duty will be owed to you). You can also hire an attorney to draft a purchase agreement and any other documents. (That certainly costs less that the big commission fee that the agent gets . . . and the attorney owes his fiduciary duties to you as his client.)

Sorry for the off topic post . . . this just got me thinking . . and my pre-emtive apologies to Minnow for not knowing all of the answers out of the gate.

Posted by Elk Hunter on Jan. 13 2009,3:03 pm

Clarification -- my preceding "rant" is not a commentary on Robert individually or any other individual agent. My commentary relates to the real estate agent "industry" in general. Basically -- should they be able to represent multiple parties in one transaction -- ie. is everything fine the way it is? or should more be done do "disclose" who the agent actualy represents? or should dual representation be prohibited?

Posted by ICU812 on Jan. 13 2009,3:07 pm

(Elk Hunter @ Jan. 12 2009,6:54 pm)

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Frankly, this has nothing to do with politics. Surely, you must understand!!

Shirley I understand. Over Macho Grande? No I'll never be over Macho Grande.

QUOTE

Simon: Gentleman, I'd like you to meet our new captain.
Clarence Oveur: Gentlemen, welcome aboard.
Simon: Captain, your navigator, Mr. Unger, and your first officer Mr. Dunn.
Clarence Oveur: Unger.
Unger: Oveur.
Dunn: Oveur.
Clarence Oveur: Dunn. Gentlemen, let's get to work.
Simon: Unger, didn't you serve Oveur in the Air Force?
Unger: Not directly. Technically, Dunn was under Oveur and I was under Dunn.
Dunn: Yep.
Simon: So, Dunn you were under Oveur and over Unger.
Unger: Yep.
Clarence Oveur: That's right. Dunn was over Unger, and I was over Dunn.
Unger: So you see, both Dunn and I were under Oveur, even though I was under Dunn.
Clarence Oveur: Dunn was over Unger, and I was over Dunn.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Witness: Striker was the squadron leader. He brought us in real low. But he couldn't handle it.
Prosecutor: Buddy couldn't handle it. Was Buddy one of your crew?
Witness: Right. Buddy was the bombardier. But it was Striker who couldn't handle it, and he went to pieces.
Procesutor: Andy went to pieces?
Witness: No. Andy was the navigator. He was all right. Buddy went to pieces. It was awful how he came unglued.
Prosecutor: Howie came unglued?
Witness: Oh, no. Howie was a rock, the best tailgunner in the outfit. Buddy came unglued.
Prosecutor: And he bailed out?
Witness: No. Andy hung tough. Buddy bailed out. How he survived, it was a miracle.
Prosecutor: Then Howie survived?
Witness: No, 'fraid not. We lost Howie the next day.
Prosecutor: Over Macho Grande?
Witness: No. I don't think I'll ever get over Macho Grande.

Posted by This is my real name on Jan. 13 2009,6:29 pm

Do we have the clearance, Clarence?
Roger, Roger. What's the vector, Victor?

Posted by AnEngrsWife on Jan. 13 2009,7:25 pm

I know how dual representation and all that works, thanks for the lesson. You're missing the point and that would be that Mr. Leland was supposed to show us the properties and had something come up so he sent Robert. Robert tried to talk us out of buying the home because he thought we didn't want to live in the same neighborhood as someone who works for the city.

Actually, I'm not going to explain myself further. You took my opinion and my experience and turned this topic to be about me. I guess I have learned not to share my experiences or opinions anymore. Thanks for the wonderful experience.

Posted by Alfy Packer on Jan. 13 2009,8:36 pm

Ya, life is tough. And what does your experiance tell you about who you were dealing with. Learn from it, possibly share it with people you are close to, and don't post it on line. P.S. I think you were on to something but if you are mad about how you were treated, you should expand your focus above the named person in your posts.

Posted by aAa on Jan. 13 2009,9:20 pm

Why is is that those that brag about everything end up having nothing -- or those that say they have had all the girls are still a virgin, and son and so forth.

I feel sorry for AnEngersWife for getting involved, but perhaps it is a lesson learned.

Bottom line is that Mr. Hoffman will get his in the end. I'm sure his current employers would not be to happy with his Realtor's behavior, professionally and personally.

People always get what they deserve -- Amen to this sorry tale! :violin:

Posted by Common Citizen on Jan. 14 2009,11:19 am

(AnEngrsWife @ Jan. 13 2009,7:25 pm)

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You took my opinion and my experience and turned this topic to be about me. I guess I have learned not to share my experiences or opinions anymore. Thanks for the wonderful experience.

Welcome to the forum...

I wouldn't let the runts of the litter run you off...i.e. minnow. Keep speaking up...many of us like what you have to say.

Maybe you just need to start using the :finger:

a little more often.... :laugh:

Posted by Botto 82 on Jan. 14 2009,11:51 am

(AnEngrsWife @ Jan. 13 2009,7:25 pm)

QUOTE

Actually, I'm not going to explain myself further. You took my opinion and my experience and turned this topic to be about me. I guess I have learned not to share my experiences or opinions anymore. Thanks for the wonderful experience.

My people have a name for this: Thin-skinned.

Posted by nosale on Jan. 17 2009,5:59 am

(nosale @ Dec. 31 2008,12:39 pm)

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Robert,
Century21 still does not have you listed as an agent on their web site?
Have you asked them to correct it?

< CENTURY21_VIEW ALL AGENTS >

Posted by Robert Hoffman on Jan. 17 2009,1:54 pm

No Sale,

Were no longer on the Trib site at all and as for the Current C21 site My designation is that of a Real Estate Professional NOT a Realtor.

The only difference in the two is that Realtor is copy-righted and i am not paying to use the word. Thats it. Its just a word.

Tom Leland, Greg Jensen, Brad Haggen in Wells and almost all small town Real Estate Professionals chose not to pay to use the word Realtor-its just a word. No different than me, we ARE all LICENSED by the STATE OF MN DEPT of COMMERECE just as anyone who sells real estate is but have chose not to pay the extra amount to use the National Assn of Realtors copy written word for our advertising...

...you know who I am, you know I dont need it for my advertising and since it costs extra to use the word who do you think gets the cost passed on to???

Thats why my info isnt currently on the C21 site. Our office Is a member of the Nat’l Assn but I am not. Nor do I need to be in order to sell real estate. I am licensed by the States Dept of commerce. I was a member but am not anymore-still licensed by the Dept of Commerce (I just showed 8 houses since 11 this morn! and have n open house tomorrow)

Those morons that say nasty things about me not being able to work in Real Estate are just lie'n, for example I never met this chick Melissa unless Brad aka 78 Pinto is her husband. I'm not positive but have a pretty good idea. But she says she has friends in real estate, why in the world would you call me then? Those weren’t any of my listings you were describing? She made no sense at all. At least they feel better now that thyeve had a chance to bash me.

Anyway, if anyone needs any help in buying or selling a home just call 507-402-4692.

...and if you listen to all the negativity about if you should list with me or not...imagine if Im NOT working for you how bad Im going to beat your price up when I AM working for the buyers! You want me on your side...

dont be afraid of the guy who can make you disappear; be afraid of the guy who can but chooses not to-he's got more in store for you! -some old movie

take care guys! -hoffer

Posted by scorenix on Jan. 17 2009,2:21 pm

(Robert Hoffman @ Jan. 17 2009,1:54 pm)

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POINT 1: ...you know who I am, you know I dont need it for my advertising and since it costs extra to use the word who do you think gets the cost passed on to???

POINT 2: dont be afraid of the guy who can make you disappear; be afraid of the guy who can but chooses not to-he's got more in store for you! -some old movie

Two points I'd like to make:

Point 1. How exactly would you pass this cost onto the customer? Aren't you paid on a percentage? Could not the designation, since it apparently is an issue that needs to be defended, actually give more credibility, creating added sales and thus the added expense becoming accretive to your income?

Point 2: You're not a "don" a "capo" or even a street soldier, so don't come out with a line that really is quite stupid on the surface (sorry, but it really is).

Posted by minnow on Jan. 17 2009,2:38 pm

Ya, How exactly would you pass this cost onto the customer?

LOL :rofl:

Got a feeling he's not gonna have an answer for that! Haha.

Robert, you sound like a young blow hard ...a punk. A BS'r. This is no market to suffer fools. How could you pass any cost along without stealing?

Anyhow, you're an amature. Here's a real pro, check him out.

Posted by MADDOG on Jan. 17 2009,3:00 pm

You know, I was going to leave this thread alone, but I gotsta come back and say way to go Robert.

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(I just showed 8 houses since 11 this morn!

Eight houses in 2 hours and 54 minutes.

I showed a car today that took me nearly 25 minutes and I didn't have more than one "room" to show. That was before the test drive.

I have to agree with scorenix on this though.

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Point 1. How exactly would you pass this cost onto the customer? Aren't you paid on a percentage? Could not the designation, since it apparently is an issue that needs to be defended, actually give more credibility, creating added sales and thus the added expense becoming accretive to your income?

I too carry a professional title (if you like), but continue to attend classes to keep up to remain certified. These cost money that is not passed on to my customers. Whether it carrys any weight or not is up to the individual customer.

Brian Bashans
Chrysler certified sales professional

Posted by Febreze on Jan. 17 2009,4:04 pm

BAM just when you thought it was over, this topic starts up again.

Posted by minnow on Jan. 17 2009,4:15 pm

Then the fabric refresher shows up and adds nada... :clap:

Posted by Alfy Packer on Jan. 17 2009,4:17 pm

Slap Chop. Hows it work on the bud? No more popping seeds. I can see why you'd like it. Do you have a use for the cheese thing?

Posted by minnow on Jan. 17 2009,4:41 pm

Why would cannabis ever have seeds?

C'mon, show me you have half a brain even...

Posted by AnEngrsWife on Jan. 17 2009,5:08 pm

(Robert Hoffman @ Jan. 17 2009,1:54 pm)

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You are such a pathetic frickin liar Robert.
Why did I call you?? I didn't. Mr. Leland had an emergency come up and ended up sending YOU to show us these houses.
As far as why I didn't call my real estate friends, because i didn't know them at the time I had to deal with your lying ass. Now that I do know them, I recommend them to anyone over you any day. To me, you are a loser. Your girlfriend even left you because you supposedly worked so much she couldn't stand being alone.
LMAO you chose not to be associated with the National Association, that's funny because when I met you, you were a member of theirs. I guess the legal issues you're having change a lot of things huh. YOu should just admit you were kicked out of the association instead of continuing to lie. ;) You'll see me again in person one day and realize that you do in fact know me. No, my husband's name is not Brad. But it will all come around one day, trust me.

Posted by Febreze on Jan. 17 2009,5:51 pm

(minnow @ Jan. 17 2009,4:15 pm)

QUOTE

Then the fabric refresher shows up and adds nada... :clap:

Wow you haven't added anything for months on this forum. OH wait the drug arrest was pretty funny!!

Posted by minnow on Jan. 17 2009,8:03 pm

Go dry some laundry.

Posted by 58Chevy on Jan. 17 2009,9:13 pm

(Robert Hoffman @ Jan. 17 2009,1:54 pm)

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...and if you listen to all the negativity about if you should list with me or not...imagine if Im NOT working for you how bad Im going to beat your price up when I AM working for the buyers! You want me on your side...

take care guys! -hoffer

OMG Robert,

I see you are now THREATENING people to use you as a realtor.... (a hmm...I mean "real estate unprofessional")....

Wow, what kind of puke has to RESORT to SCARE TACTICS to make a living? Great strategy....Let's see if it works for ya......javascript:emoticon(' :sarcasm:

')
smilie

Just tell the truth FOR ONCE. The MN Realtors Association did not even give you the opportunity to pay their fines (after the 3rd violation) to maintain your membership with them...They kicked your sorry ass to the curb....
But you just keep on making up excuses, Robert. Who knows, there might actually be a few dumbas*es left out there that believe your tall tales!

Robert, are you under the impression that there are only a few people out there that despise you? Tell everyone why J.W. left C21? Anyways, you might want to recount...
You're a crook and a thief. Word about you has spread like wildfire in this town. Don't thank me or anyone else on this silly forum. YOUR PAST HAS CAUGHT UP WITH YOU. You have no one to blame but yourself. Take some accountability for Christ's sake. You are your own worst enemy!!! End of Story.

Posted by MAKER on Jan. 17 2009,9:18 pm

Oh AnEngrsWife give it a rest. We all understand you dont like him and thats fine. WE GET IT!

Here is what I dont understand . . .

Are you trying to scare him by saying . . . "You'll see me again in person one day and realize that you do in fact know me. No, my husband's name is not Brad. But it will all come around one day, trust me." :rofl:

RUN ROBERT RUN!

What are you going to do when you see him? Call him naughty names as if you were in elementary school again. :dunce:

And as for your real estate friends I'll bet they have ALL disapointed a client or two before. (I'm just guessing they are all trying to stay on your good side after seeing the love and passion you have for Robert)

. . . and then to say, "Your girlfriend even left you because you supposedly worked so much she couldn't stand being alone." - well I'm willing to bet that your hubby has got to be getting jealous that Robert gets you all hot and bothered more than he does! :flame:

Be careful you dont end up alone too. Especially with that award winning attitude!

:popcorn:

Posted by Spock of Vulcan on Jan. 18 2009,5:48 am

So, how was anyone injured by Hoffman?

Did you lose some money, did he slander you?

Did he rough you up?

Oh, wait, he supposedly signed some papers with someone elses name. Anddddddd.....and what?

So, where is the injury?

Posted by Spock of Vulcan on Jan. 18 2009,5:51 am

He's such a hard worker his girlfriend left him

Sounds more like an endorsement.

Posted by Spock of Vulcan on Jan. 18 2009,5:55 am

Bottom line, if Hoffman had actually stolen from someone etc. They would go to the police. And Hoffman would be charged with something.

But he isn't, dosen't make sense does it?

Posted by DexterDawg on Jan. 18 2009,7:59 am

So why does this topic keep coming back up? :deadhorse:

Bottom line: If he did something illegal he would not have a license to sell real estate.

Posted by AnEngrsWife on Jan. 18 2009,10:55 am

.............................................

Posted by Robert Hoffman on Jan. 18 2009,11:22 am

Eng's Wife, if yer ever out and about stop by any of my open houses anytime and say "hi!" I hope ya have a great week, take care kiddo! -Robert

Posted by Botto 82 on Jan. 18 2009,11:35 am

(minnow @ Jan. 17 2009,2:38 pm)

QUOTE

Anyhow, you're an amature.

It's amateur, amateur.

And schwag has lots of seeds. Ask your Mexican friends.

Double Prizes!

Posted by minnow on Jan. 18 2009,12:00 pm

Why would I ever have Mexican schwag big guy?

Posted by ICU812 on Jan. 18 2009,12:09 pm

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Posted by Robert Hoffman on Jan. 18 2009,2:56 pm

(58Chevy @ Jan. 17 2009,9:13 pm)

QUOTE

(Robert Hoffman @ Jan. 17 2009,1:54 pm)

QUOTE

So Brad, you're saying Jay Waltman left Century 21 because I came over and was working at the same office as him? You think an experienced agent got up and left his office of years because i came over? You're in way over your head goof ball!

...thats a pretty tall claim that anyone could just call Jay and ask him about don't ya think?

I hardly think he's ever even thought twice about me.

..you should think about how easy your dumping all this info thats only prevy to Realtors and how you've now pointed out exactly whos feeding you all this info that you so think is any of you biz!

He, as an agent, can get into a lot of trouble. Think twice, your going to just hurt a freind of yours for you wanting soo bad to be somebody!

You think I havent learned the ins and outs of all this by now bud?

...its you that is going to end up hurting people! Your buddies and their agency. Shut up and mind your own business. You have a wife and family to take care of-soebd time with them, leave me alone stalker!

Posted by familyguy on Jan. 18 2009,3:07 pm

Boy Maker, sounds like you are getting all hot and bothered while others chip away at Robert. Last time I read, Robert was still speaking.....for himself. So others have issues with Robert, butt out and shut up! Maybe since you two are so close, he could find a home for you, have you sign the purchase agreement, then take it and amend it to his desire. You would have already signed it and all......then Robert dashes away and lets everyone suffer because he has swindled them out of money. Get a clue people, Spock of Vulcan are you really this ignorant? Obviously Robert has caused some chaos, he can bail his sorry ass out .....by himself Haha, probably not though, the big boys will get his ass when he goes to prison, he'll probably love that. :rofl:

Let's not forgot what a despicable person Robert is. Remember....he was fired from Herberger's for STEALING, yes, it's been a long time, spare me the excuses..... Don't forget he has a restraining order on him from a previous relationship cause he is psycho. Good thing you got your bro as a jailer, saving you extra PBJ's.... and Starbucks, and let go from Leland's. And you are all still defending him??!!! Wow! You people are as monumentally ignorant as you portray. Let the people of this forum keep running their mouths....it's pretty humorous really.

Oh, and let us not go without knowing that Robert pm'd 58 Chevy begging to him to remove previous posts and pleading with him to leave his girlfriend out of this. Clearly Robert, no one brought her into this. She just saves your sorry ass by removing the comments at the Trib site, huh huh huh!! :rofl:

Your day is coming and then all these idiots will see how you really are. :rockon:

Posted by Joink on Jan. 18 2009,3:55 pm

Excuse me.....anyone here seen Hooiser? I still think he owes Mike Murtaugh an apology.

Posted by MAKER on Jan. 18 2009,8:21 pm

FAMILYGUY . . . . . I'll just sit and be quiet so you can voice your opinion. Let me know when its okay to talk again. :rofl:

Posted by minnow on Jan. 18 2009,9:26 pm

His(the hoffster) brother is a what?!

Posted by Wolfie on Jan. 19 2009,2:26 am

When you work to provide a service to the general public, no matter how well you do the job, there always will be someone that cannot be satisfied, regardless of the effort. What is currently going on to Robert Hoffman, is exactly why I never reveal my true persona. With all the third hand information being preached like it was the gospel that has been posted. I wouldn't be surprised if a subpoena for data would be forth coming and a lawsuit for slander and libel brought forth. Lots of charges being thrown around but no concrete evidence to back them up. Stand strong You can't please em all. Piece of advice "Never underestimate the stupidity of the general public".

Posted by minnow on Jan. 19 2009,2:44 am

Ya, I remember you pulling the same chit Wolfie so I know what your talking about. Only you made criminal accusations. Care to recant?

Posted by Robert Hoffman on Jan. 19 2009,9:38 am

58 Chev's gotta new name. Welcome "family guy!" Do you want us to change the name on your memebership card? ...Way to repeat your whole story over and over and over again. Thats not getting old. :deadhorse:

Ive gotta duck out from commenting anymore though. Theres another agent/agency feeding the monkies here and we've had to "seek assistance."

-hoffer

Posted by minnow on Jan. 19 2009,12:57 pm

You can't afford to pay a lawyer for something that ain't gonna get you anything but a big legal bill. Go ahead...empty as an empty threat can be.

This is the point that I'd seize the oppurtunity and go in for the kill, but the hoffster isn't my prey.

Posted by hymiebravo on Jan. 19 2009,3:48 pm

This thread is really fascinating.

It's like a strange modern advertising campaign.

It's like this amalgam. Consisting of a television drama that you might see on some network like MTV. Jerry Springer. And a telephone number on a truck-stop bathroom wall.

Posted by hymiebravo on Jan. 19 2009,3:58 pm

QUOTE

Piece of advice "Never underestimate the stupidity of the general public".

Are you bragging or complaining?

Seems like that could work for you, just as easily as against you.

Paticularly in any type of sales.

Posted by nosale on Jan. 22 2009,8:27 am

(Robert Hoffman @ Jan. 17 2009,1:54 pm)

QUOTE

The only difference in the two is that Realtor is copy-righted and i am not paying to use the word. Thats it. Its just a word.

Really? It's not what Century21 has posted on it's website.

QUOTE

When is a Real Estate Agent a REALTOR®?

When they are a member of the NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF REALTORS®, The Voice for Real Estate® -- the world's largest professional association. The term REALTOR® is a registered collective membership mark that identifies a real estate professional who is a member of the NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF REALTORS® and subscribes to its strict Code of Ethics.

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< CENTURY21 >

Posted by DexterDawg on Jan. 22 2009,10:46 am

(nosale @ Jan. 22 2009,8:27 am)

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Really? It's not what Century21 has posted on it's website.

Really nosale? it appears to me what you cut and pasted is EXACTALLY what Robert said. Notice the little registered trademark symbols ALL OVER the page? Wow.

Posted by nosale on Aug. 19 2009,10:34 am

I heard Robert Hoffman left Century21.

Robert, are you there?

Is this true?

Posted by jazzy jeff on Aug. 19 2009,2:35 pm

There is a nice house for sale on the corner of Foothills Circle and Fairlane Terrace with a Century 21 sign on it. It also says Robert Hoffman agent! That went on the market within the past week or so. I am guessing Mr. Hoffman is still selling houses for Century 21. Gosh Robert, you are getting valuable advertising here and it costs you nothing! Only in America my brotha!! Jazzy

Posted by justmealmn on Aug. 19 2009,3:09 pm

Sooo Robert when is the BIG wedding day coming up? Well we all get an invitation for the BIG event? Will her dad do the ceremony?

Posted by This is my real name on Aug. 19 2009,3:18 pm

(justmealmn @ Aug. 19 2009,3:09 pm)

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Sooo Robert when is the BIG wedding day coming up? Well we all get an invitation for the BIG event? Will her dad do the ceremony?

I think it already happened. He lives a few blocks from me, and some vehicle with a HOFF II plate was all marked up "Just Married" a few weeks ago.

I think the announcement was in the paper too, come to think of it.

Posted by nosale on Aug. 20 2009,8:21 am

(jazzy jeff @ Aug. 19 2009,2:35 pm)

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Robert has been removed again from the C21 agents on it's website.

Robert, what's up? :dunno:

< Century 21 Agents >

Posted by Whiskero on Aug. 20 2009,8:41 am

Maybe he's still on his honeymoon. Give the guy a break! Ha Ha

Posted by MAKER on Aug. 20 2009,7:11 pm

Well in the paper he doesnt claim to be an agent if you look at an add with a house for sale.... just says hosted by Mr. Hoffman