Forum: Current Events
Topic: Mayor Fjelsted ??
started by: Guest

Posted by Guest on Jan. 19 2004,2:32 pm
Question for Governer Fjelsted on freeborncounty.com

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Question:
Jeff, my question is this........
do u run prostitution through your bar in albert lea?

Jeff's Answer
What has this got to do with council business? No I don't. If I find that anyone working for me breaks any law, they are fired.


This guy won't let employees break the law but it's OK if he pays his bouncers cash and avoids paying workmens comp,  soc. sec. and all those other trivial costs?

Heck of a guy to work for.  Torree Nordstrom worked for him for 5 years as a bouncer and when he got jumped by 6 guys and couldn't work at his regular job he found out that not only did Fjelsted not have workmens comp on him he even denied that Nordstrom was ever an employee.  Nordstrom had to hire a lawyer just to make Fjelsted admit he was an employee.  

It's a good thing the employees don't break the law the owner breaks enough already.

Posted by minnow on Jan. 19 2004,2:40 pm
If ya can't beat em...join em.
Posted by ironmaiden on Jan. 19 2004,4:35 pm
minnow, keep up the averages...95% of what you say makes no sense at all.
Posted by Guest 2 on Jan. 20 2004,11:43 am
Not only that, he has 8 bartenders and gives out two (2) W-2's........I guess the rest volunteer to work there.
Posted by Drunk on Jan. 20 2004,12:03 pm
I'll work for drinks :p
Posted by distant lurker on Jan. 20 2004,1:19 pm
You ever think that maybe you should of asked him about his business tax practices instead of a stupid question about prostitution?  This area never ceases to amaze me.  I agree with another posters comment, the a-hole of Minnesota is Albert Lea.  A backwards city full of backwards people.
Posted by Gilligan on Jan. 20 2004,1:31 pm
During the IRS audit of the Aragon, Fjelstad drove his $50,000 Lincoln to Mankato and parked it a block away from the auditors office so they wouldn't see what he drove.

Then he was bragging about it at the Aragon one night, so I am told.

Posted by Guest on Jan. 20 2004,2:00 pm
Try to follow along lurker.  The question was posed to him on another website freeborncounty.com, I was just pointing out how stupid the answer was when so many people in town know about his business practices.

FYI he's a strip club owner and people have made accusations of the dancers engaging in prostitution for years and I'm sure that's why the question was asked.

Posted by minnow on Jan. 20 2004,2:31 pm
So...it was a stupid question. As if to imply a strip club owner may possibly approve of illicit sex. LOL :laugh:  Grow up.

I'm not about taking morality lessons from some backwoods small town hog kill hicks... :blush:

Posted by distant lurker on Jan. 20 2004,2:58 pm
Quote (Guest @ Jan. 20 2004,2:00:pm)
Try to follow along lurker.  

Don't use that tone with me you stupid screw :angry:
Posted by Sad state of AL on Jan. 20 2004,3:01 pm
Perhaps the staff around here should create a section on here for slandering people in the community & gossiping about nonsense.
And perhaps if the people of Albert Lea would quit worrying about everyone else & what everyone else is doing and what they are getting away with, they could focus on the future & growing the town into a livable city but what fun would that be.  Just wallow in your misery Albert Lea, and if you want to blame someone for the misery, look in the mirror & start there.

Posted by Liberal on Jan. 20 2004,7:34 pm
This wasn't a simple matter of Fjelsted getting away with something. He knowingly broke the law and because of it he caused his employee extreme hardship.

I'm good friends with Nordstrom (The bouncer) in fact I helped him find an attorney to get his money from Fjelsted. And I also saw a lot of the paperwork because Nordstrom had to use my phone to call his attorney because he couldn't afford a phone since he was injured and couldn't work at his regular job at Streaters

For nearly a year Nordstrom had to live with no income and had to depend on friends and family to help him out financially because Fjelsted wanted to save a few bucks and didn't care enough about the law to pay comp insurance.

A strip club owner with little regard for the law is not the person I would want representing the city.

(If anyone wants to know how the story ended. Fjelsteds dram shop insurance eventually paid the bouncer over $30K in lost wages after Fjelsted finally admitted that he was an employee.)

Posted by from far away on Jan. 20 2004,8:03 pm
thanks for the additional info liberal.  Was this every written about in the Trib?  how is this guy still a public servant?!?!?!?!?!

so guest, did you expect Mr. Fjelsted to reply to your question by saying 'Why yes, we sure do run prostitution out of my bar!'
I am not condoning Mr. Fjelsteds business practices but it bothers me that you baited him with that question & then posted it here refering to a differant topic all together (work comp issue)  :angry:

Posted by GEOKARJO on Jan. 20 2004,8:03 pm
Workmans Comp for a bar employee is high, however Gram shop covers a Bar against law suites that arise from customers getting injured in the bar or someone getting injured by someone who has been at the bar, or a drunk driving accident where someone is injured. Gram shop is very expensive as well.
Posted by Guest on Jan. 21 2004,10:55 am
George,

Its called "Dram Shop" insurance or third party liquor liability.

Posted by Liberal on Jan. 21 2004,11:34 am
For what it's worth, it's called "dram shop" because of the old english measurement "a dram" they used to call bars dram-shops in old England because you went there to buy liquor 1 dram at a time.

If minnow is right we might have "gram shop" insurance in the future though.

Posted by GEOKARJO on Jan. 21 2004,1:54 pm
This truely is a House Of Knowledge thank you for the correction.
Posted by minnow on Jan. 21 2004,2:02 pm
Only when you post Geo...----> It's a house of nowledge  :laugh:
Posted by GEOKARJO on Jan. 21 2004,2:13 pm
Minnow kiss this  
Posted by jimhanson on Jan. 21 2004,2:15 pm
Old joke--You know what the big red "N" at Nebraska football games stands for, don't you?  "Nowledge" :D
Posted by MADDOG on Jan. 21 2004,2:18 pm
Hey, I recognize me!   :p
Posted by Out of towner on Jan. 22 2004,2:32 pm
Why do you people put up with a guy like this.  Runs his mouth about all the changes he'll make and if he can't he will quit.  Now it comes out he is a white-collar crimminal.  You should run this guy for Mayor.  Albert Lea deserves him.
Posted by Guest on Jan. 22 2004,9:29 pm
We don't need no "out of towner" telling us which criminals we should elect to public office.  We have several to choose from.
Posted by LaLaLa on Jan. 22 2004,11:52 pm
Aint that the truth!!!
Posted by Mr. Bill on Jan. 23 2004,12:53 pm
With office holders like this guy I hope Mr. Sluggo doesn't move here and run for mayor. OHHHH NOOOOO!!!! :(
Posted by Guest on Jan. 25 2004,10:43 am
Seems that all the problems are with the commissioners here but you allow city officals that scoff at our laws to govern you.
Posted by 180 on Jan. 25 2004,10:58 am
They're all clowns and we're in the circus.
Posted by Out of towner on Jan. 26 2004,3:31 pm
So did the IRS wack this guy for paying cash wages with no work comp. or was he under reporting his sales?
Posted by Liberal on Jan. 26 2004,4:19 pm
I don't believe the IRS ever caught on and I doubt the bouncer is real anxious for the information to get to the IRS since he was probably breaking a few laws also.

I talked to the bouncer this weekend and he said that he heard through the grapevine that Fjelsted is really mad that this came out 4 years after the fact just when he was thinking about running for mayor. The bouncer also said he would gladly talk to any reporter that wanted to hear the story and would show them the all the proof they needed but all he really wants is for Fjelsted to allow him back into the bar.  I guess Fjelsted put him on the "banned for life" list for suing him and all he wants is for Fjelsted to acknowledge that he was wrong and take his name of the banned list.

Posted by Out of towner on Jan. 26 2004,10:15 pm
Thank you for your reply.  I guess if I ran a strip club for 20 years there would be things in my past I would not be proud of telling folks.  So fess up Jeff if you want to have a chance to be mayor. ???
Posted by hellraiser on Jan. 26 2004,11:23 pm
Just what Albert Lea needs, a crooked strip club owner running for mayor.
You know, when you think about it, he'd probably fit right in.
It is no wonder this town is going down the toilet!

Posted by Quotable Quotes on Jan. 27 2004,10:37 am
Fjelstad says business sense is his strength

By Peter Cox, Tribune staff writer
Trib August 2002

Fjelstad feels that his experience in the business world will easily transfer to a successful experience in the political forum. "A city is a lot like a business," he said.

With his know-how, Fjelstad said he can work with many people and do things quickly. "I tend to make up my mind on things very fast," he said. "It's just part of being a businessman. I think that I'm a friendly enough guy to work with anyone."

Posted by Guest on Jan. 27 2004,11:11 am
Felstad would probably say "If I don't know the answer,  how about I make one up".   You dummies won't know anyway. :D
Posted by fed up on Feb. 04 2004,11:07 am
i heard county attorney nelson likes to frequent the darkside of the aragon? isn't he married?
Posted by taking a stand on Feb. 04 2004,11:13 am
i wonder how many other married county officials attend the aragon and recieve favors from mr.fjelstead?
Posted by Frustrated on Feb. 04 2004,11:24 am
fed up - What has going to a titty bar got to do with being married?  

Also, I don't see how Felstad can realistically compare running the Aragon with running Albert Lea - Certainly not much business expertise needed to run the only titty bar in town - but then again, perhaps enough to realize this is not the time to be building a new library.

Posted by tort on Feb. 04 2004,11:36 am
its what u do outside the bar with strippers? that matters maybe hypothetically?
Posted by ? on Feb. 04 2004,11:41 am
is it true there is a house right down the street from the aragon where the strippers stay? what goes on in that house i wonder, anything illegal, drugs,prostitution,etc?
Posted by guest on Feb. 04 2004,11:44 am
talk about your trash rumors.  But then again, with the education level and mentality level of most people in Albert Lea (99% of you losers) this kind of rubbish should be expected.
Posted by Tort on Feb. 04 2004,11:44 am
Give your husband everything he wants at home and he won't have reason to look elsewhere!
Posted by ? on Feb. 04 2004,11:48 am
so there isn't a stripper house? that is just a rumor?
Posted by up your butt joboo! on Feb. 04 2004,11:53 am
i think from now on in albert lea, there should be no remodeling of anything, pass a law that only new buildings should be built, don't save anymoney, spend,spend,spend, have the property taxes so high, that only people making triple figures can live there along with the -$15,000 income bracket that is the employees of the tripple incomers.control everything, big brother is watching?fart just kidding albert lea and freeborncounty leadership is horse crap!
Posted by MADDOG on Feb. 04 2004,11:58 am
I've stayed out of this thread long enough.  Jeff runs a good legal establishment.  He is one of the few places that has always been in compliance with local law officials during their sting operations.  If a dancer is found to be breaking the law in the bar, they are immediately fired.  He does not tolerate drugs or prostitution.

Secondly, County Attorney Nelson does not go to the Aragon.  (I can't believe I just defended him  :D )  Their is only 1 commissioner who requents Fjelstad's bar......

This thread has been nothing but trash.  Quit posting in it and just let it die of unuse.

Posted by minnow on Feb. 04 2004,12:01 pm
"He does not tolerate drugs" ---->Absolute straight up lie!  :angry:

He's a drug salesmen for crying out loud!  :laugh:

And please....don't give me that rediculous nonsense about how alcohol isn't a drug. It is and both you and I know it. You sir are lying out your arse!  :blues:

Posted by Guest on Feb. 04 2004,12:50 pm
Nice post maddog.  So as long as he doesn't sell to minors as you say he passed the stings.  But its ok to pay your employees cash wages, carry no work comp on them, and under-report your actual sales.  Yeah leave him alone and he will pay off any city or county debt we have. Or is that a different cartel I am thinking of.
Posted by Tiger on Feb. 04 2004,12:55 pm
Back to the stripper house for a minute.  I too have heard there is a house on court st. that the dancers stay at while working at the bar.  I have also heard no men are allowed in the house and some nights the dancers are escorted to the house by bouncers.  I don't think it is a whore house that promotes prostitution.  (I have no facts to back this up, it is only what I have heard.  I think most posts on here are mostly heresay though.)
Posted by MADDOG on Feb. 04 2004,1:10 pm
I deserve this, I stay out of this thread, make a post, and now I'm sucked in.  :O  
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But its ok to pay your employees cash wages, carry no work comp on them, and under-report your actual sales.
 I doubt there isn't a bar only that doesn't under report.

Guest, notice I didn't defend him on that.  That's not my business, and yes Tory Nordstrom is a friend of mine, also.

Tiger, you are correct on your entire previous post.  I believe the address is.....

Posted by BIG horny stud on Feb. 04 2004,1:12 pm
can you give me the house number on Court Street plz?
Posted by BIG horny stud on Feb. 04 2004,1:14 pm
Quote (MADDOG @ Feb. 04 2004,1:10:pm)
 I believe the address is 315 Court.?

aaghhhhhhhhh, thanks dog.  
Mr. One-eye Winky appreciates it.

Posted by woody on Feb. 04 2004,4:19 pm
of course there is a stripper house.  you don't really think the girls working at aragon live in albert lea?  lol, now that is a good one.  the girls are just here to grab a few bucks from the old local drunk farmers and stupid meatpackers then they go home and spend their earnings.


the women in albert lea are not good looking enough to hold one of aragons strippers g-string.    :blues:

Posted by minna on Feb. 04 2004,5:31 pm
Yep, spend it on their non working, bad boy biking boyfriends....the rest goes for a little caine and pot. Anything left over goes to her 3 year old son.
Posted by minna fan on Feb. 04 2004,6:00 pm
you crack me up minnow
:laugh:   :laugh:   :laugh:   :laugh:

Posted by Not Da Minner on Feb. 04 2004,11:56 pm
What's it like geting a lap dance from a 300 lb. hottie.
Posted by JHC on Feb. 05 2004,12:02 am
Quote (Guest @ Feb. 04 2004,11:56:pm)
What's it like geting a lap dance from a 300 lb. hottie.

drive around town, albert lea is full of 300lb trailer trash, sure one will give you a lap for a buck.  town is full of em
Posted by minnow on Feb. 05 2004,12:36 pm
It's no problem...just roll her around in flour to find the wet spot.
Posted by bangbus.com on Feb. 05 2004,3:02 pm
They must sell A LOT of flour in Albert Lea.
Posted by Cletus on Feb. 08 2004,9:50 am
Question asked of Fjelsted on freeborncounty.com
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Jeff, my question is this........

Are you planning on running for Mayor, I really think you would make a good Mayor.

Jeff's Answer

I would like to see who would be running for mayor this time. If I feel at the time of filing that their is nobody with enough of the leadership qualities I would demand of myself I will consider it. Thank you for your support.


I wonder if he means leadership qualities like honesty and integrity?  I would bank on our currrent mayor having twice the integrity that the SOB owner does.  

I wonder if he will take care of his business problems before filing to run for mayor.  It would probably be best since he pi$$ed off half the town when he handed Sparks the golden parachute. I really don't doubt that someone will call the IRS tipline and the media if he does file to run for mayor. Because the last thing this town needs is an indictable mayor.  :angry:

Posted by minnow on Feb. 08 2004,11:07 am
He's simply the local titty bar owner and booze peddler and can never be more than that.
Posted by Pleasure on Feb. 08 2004,12:15 pm
Before Jeff Owned the Aragon,He was the General Manager of the former Wallaces Dept Store in Downtown Albert Lea.
Now when I was the Manager of a store in downtown,I also paid my employes in cash also,I deducted for Fed.and State tax and Social Security.Thats the way a lot of business's operate.
For Many years All Retail Business operated that way.
at the end of the month you reported this to the Fed. and State,and paid this in.
I don't know how many of you Dumminies can't figure that out.
I had special Payroll Envelopes for this with itemized for each amount taken out.and then a final total for which the employee was paid.

Posted by Liberal on Feb. 09 2004,10:47 am
Who are you calling Dumminies?

I doubt anyone except the IRS cares about the payroll tax thing.  What was really low was not paying workmens comp and then telling the comp company that he wasn't an employee after he was beat up and got his face and shoulder busted protecting Fjelsted's bar. Also the fact that he forced the bouncer to get a lawyer to prove he was an employee.

Do you realize how little integrity a person that would do something like that has?

Don't try to feed us Dumminies some BS about a payroll envelope either because if that were the case you would still send your employee a W2 at the end of the year and the bouncer never received a W2 and or even a 1099 in the 5 years he worked there.

Posted by Pleasure on Feb. 09 2004,2:56 pm
The Bouncers work on a contract,they pay there own soc.sec,and fed and state taxes.
I use to work on a Contract,but received no benifets,I paid my own taxes,health ins.ect.I know a lot of people who work on a contract. :p

Posted by minnow on Feb. 09 2004,3:12 pm
Then why did the bouncer recieve a settlement from the bar?
Posted by farouk on Feb. 09 2004,4:53 pm
Geo stated the settlement was paid by the dram shop policy.  If that was the case the bouncer was paid a settlement because he was injured as a result of a peril that policy covered.  The same thing would pertain to workers who are employed by a temperary service company.  They work for the payrolling company doing services at other places of employment.  If injured at those other places of employment they do not have benefits from that place of business, but have to go back to the payrolling company.
Posted by minnow on Feb. 09 2004,5:24 pm
OK then--->why did he have to fight the titty bar owner for 2 years to get the benefits of said insurance?
Posted by Liberal on Feb. 09 2004,5:27 pm
I know about this story first hand since I've actually read all the legal documents and Nordstrom was not contract labor or temporary help. He worked as a bouncer for 5 years and never received a W2 or a 1099 in all the years he worked there. And when he was injured at work Fjelsted hung him out to dry to save his own neck.

I'd like to hear what Fjelsted has to say about any of this, but, I'm pretty sure he'd just lie unless you hired a lawyer and forced him to tell the truth.

Posted by minnow on Feb. 09 2004,5:34 pm
The prosecution rests your honor...
Posted by farouk on Feb. 09 2004,5:49 pm
Hip pocket transaction, ay.
Posted by Liberal on Mar. 19 2004,3:57 pm
I talked to Nordstrom this afternoon and told him what Fjelsted had to say about him on freeborncounty.com
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All my employees are covered under Workers Comp. as this employee was. I could let fly with all the mud on him, but I choose not to get in the gutter with you.


He said he'll drop off all the legal documents first part of next week so I can scan them and put them online and then people can make up their own mind about who's lying. After I get them maybe I should forward a copy to the state and to the IRS then we'll see how anxious the SOB owner is to start slinging mud.

Posted by Zoolander on Mar. 19 2004,4:26 pm
I just wish I could get a transcript of Boss Hog at the farm family award breakfast telling an account rep that he was F'n the former weather gal of KAAL who’s selling spots for KATE.... Jeff Jeff Jeff.... One day you’ll learn to speak quietly while you carry your alleged big stick...
Posted by The Advocate on Mar. 19 2004,5:36 pm
I find this entire thread insulting and tasteless, have a little respect for some of us older people here.  No sense to this at all.  If you people are going to comment on Mr Fjelstad then by George, stick to his politics.  If you cannot do that go find a low life site that welcomes you and your insults.
Posted by Liberal on Mar. 19 2004,6:38 pm
Hmmm, I wonder where I could find a low life site that welcomes me and my facts. ???

Everything I've posted on this thread has something to do with his politics and will have even more to do with it as we get closer to the mayoral race.  He wants to run for mayor he should make amends for what he did to Nordstrom instead of calling him a liar. If he wants to continue to tell people that Nordstrom is a liar and was covered by workmens comp I'll make sure everyone knows who the liar is by supplying the legal documents.

You'd think a real advocate would defend the average guy that got screwed over by his boss.

Posted by minnow fan on Mar. 19 2004,7:52 pm
Quote (The Advocate @ Mar. 19 2004,5:36:pm)
go find a low life site that welcomes you and your insults.

< Low life site - click here >

Posted by MrTarzan on Mar. 19 2004,11:29 pm
That is funny minnow fan.  I went to your link.  LOL.  I generally like Jeff F., but I disagree with Advocate.  If you choose to go into politics, something no one has to do, then you open your life to a higher order of scrutiny, period.  Tawdry and sordid affairs are fair game.  Ask Gary Hart, Bill Clinton and others.  It will just happen and that is the way it is.  What I believe America is looking for is strong leaders that will say, "Yeah, I did her, she was hot, SO" instead of lying, and covering up.  Then America will say, o.k. cool.  Yeah she is hot, I would have too.
Posted by Liberal on Mar. 20 2004,12:19 am
I could care less about who is sleeping with who, but I won't allow Fjelsted to bad mouth Nordstrom any longer. Nordstrom was doing his job and when he was injured on the job he found out his employeer didn't carry workmens comp on him.

Think about what this guy went through, he nearly lost his house, he had no phone, he had to borrow money from friends and family just to eat and buy gas to get to and from physical therapy. All this while he's trying to heal from surgery from being beat up by 6 guys and getting his face and shoulder broken. And he went through most of that because Fjelsted was breaking the law and didn't carry workmens comp on him.

Like I said I'll post the legal papers next week after Nordstrom drops them off and we'll see who is lying, but, I certainly wouldn't make something like this up would I?  Besides, there are obviously many people in this town that knows about this, it's not a big secret.

Posted by MrTarzan on Mar. 20 2004,2:52 pm
Go get them Liberal.  Albert Lea owes you a debt for exposing so much junk here.  This local government has lost its moral compass, and by their overt blatant disregard for civil rights and law, I would say their ever loving minds too.
Posted by Angel on Mar. 22 2004,10:31 am
Liberal if your friend wasn't getting a W2 doesn't that mean he wasn't paying taxes either? I don't think what Jeff did was right but your friend chose to work there for cash. That isn't ethical either.
Posted by Liberal on Mar. 27 2004,12:40 pm
Nordstrom just stopped by for a second time since he dropped of his documents on Monday. It's an unbelievable amount of documentation, it's probably 100-150 documents that I have to to go over.  Seems he saved every document he ever received. He gave me everything from the police reports,medical reports, letters from Craig Nelson, depositions,  and transcripts of all the court proceedings(criminal and civil).  It will take me a long time to go over everything but one document sums it up pretty good.

< Letter From Nordstroms attorney to The Special Compensation Fund >

As far as which one of the two (Nordstrom or Fjelstad) is lying or unethical  I guess that's just something people will have to decide for themselves.

Posted by GEOKARJO on Mar. 27 2004,12:59 pm
I considered running for a political office but I would half to write a book to list all my past discressions, it is alright for a politition to lie that is how they got the office in the first place false promises and false hope.
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