Forum: Current Events
Topic: Congress hurts Students and Teachers
started by: TheTruth

Posted by TheTruth on Oct. 02 2006,11:40 am
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Washington, D.C. - Congress is about to stampede out of town before the November election, but schoolteachers and parents of college students may be left behind in the dust.

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The "extenders," as they are known, apply to such breaks as a $250 tax deduction that teachers can take for buying school supplies for their classrooms. An estimated 3.4 million teachers take the deduction, the IRS says.

Another break that expired Dec. 31 is a tax deduction of up to $4,000 for college tuition and fees that can be used by parents of college students, the students themselves or spouses. Some 4.7 million Americans take that deduction, the IRS says.


Welcome to America.
Tax breaks for the rich.
Higher taxes for students and teachers.

Posted by scorenix on Oct. 02 2006,1:07 pm
And now we have Guteneckt running scared, advertising about how Walz wants to raise taxes.

Gutey wants you to believe this election is not about Iraq, not about a sluggish economy for six years, not about education cuts (think locally - Benda), not about a federal budget deficit, but about the possibilty of raising taxes.

And the Republicans have done such a good thing about reducing spending?  :p

Current polls now show the Democrats winning the Senate.  Get out the broom Jimmy, its looks like a clean sweep.

Posted by TameThaTane on Oct. 02 2006,1:09 pm
Want college paid for? Either be a immigrant or have poor parents... or rich parents. Everyone else has to serve in Iraq first.  :;):
Posted by scorenix on Oct. 02 2006,1:24 pm
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Want college paid for? Either be a immigrant or have poor parents... or rich parents. Everyone else has to serve in Iraq first.  :;):

And here we have a local candidate, Benda, who says he wants to "help" education, but is not interested in fully funding education.

College tuition in Minnesota has climbed what, 50% over the past four years?  And K-12 funding has declined 22% over the past four years?

Posted by TameThaTane on Oct. 02 2006,2:29 pm
College tuition goes up according to how much the government will pay or loan students. Restricting this amount  puts pressure on schools to hold the line on tuition.
Posted by I was born in a small town on Oct. 02 2006,4:01 pm
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And K-12 funding has declined 22% over the past four years?

Per ADM (average daily membership) Albert Lea had $7125 in 02 and projected to have $8673 in 07.  And this does not include Q comp.

< http://education.state.mn.us/mde....ex.html >

open district revenue 02 to over and then enter 241 in the sheet.


The "cuts" that we hear so much about are fuzzy math, and I support the referendum and not voting for T-Paw.

22% where do you get the number?
Posted by Common Citizen on Oct. 02 2006,9:55 pm
First of all, why is it that people should be getting any government funding at all for post-secondary education.  Half the people in college don't belong their anyway.  

Over 80% of the people graduating don't even work in their field of study.

You guys all have it backwards.

Scorenix,  Are you one of those typical libbies that believe the only way you can "help" something is by throwing more money after it.  Don't you realize that k-12 education is the largest expenditure in the state with over 42% of our tax revenue going to this cause.  I kind of like the fact that someone(Benda) is stating they'll help out education in ways that doesn't require $$$$$$$.

Now I would like specifics from these politician.

Posted by scorenix on Oct. 02 2006,10:26 pm
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Half the people in college don't belong their anyway.

Now I would like specifics from these politician.


Maybe if the politicians had thrown more money to your school, you might have had more grammar classes. :rofl:

Now I'm just kidding, I understand this is an internet forum, and we are a bit relaxed.

Scorenix,  Are you one of those typical libbies that believe the only way you can "help" something is by throwing more money after it.  

Well, you obviously don't know me.  I'm quite conservative on economic issues.  The problem though, is that the reverse is not true either: taking money away wouldn't help the situation.

I believe in education.  I believe education should be available to everyone.  And the cutbacks being made at the state and federal level are preventing people from getting a quality education.

My "problem" with Benda goes much further than education.  The man believes if government spends it, it therefore follows it must be bad.

So if Benda will "help" education by further cuts in funding, how does he intend to increase the quality of education (and PLEASE do not use vouchers as your sole solution).

Posted by I was born in a small town on Oct. 02 2006,10:31 pm
again with the cuts.  Where are they?  "We did not get as much of an increase as we planned for does not sound like a cut to me.
Posted by Common Citizen on Oct. 02 2006,10:45 pm
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Well, you obviously don't know me.  I'm quite conservative on economic issues.  The problem though, is that the reverse is not true either: taking money away wouldn't help the situation.


No, I don't know you, but I guess from your posts I don't see where Benda said he is going to cut funding.  I think that he is just not going to keep increasing the budget for it without looking at alternatives.

Posted by jimhanson on Oct. 03 2006,9:54 am
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And here we have a local candidate, Benda, who says he wants to "help" education, but is not interested in fully funding education.


Hard to tell from that language--"fully funding education".  What IS "fully funding"?  As much education as anybody wants? :dunno:

It's incredible that HALF THE MONEY THAT GOES TO THE STATE IN TAXES is spent on education, AND THE LIBBIES DON'T THINK THAT'S ENOUGH? :p  :p  :p

MORE than roads, more than welfare, more than all the state salaries, and libbies think that "the public" should fund MORE free schooling?  How about if we hold down spending, and those that want to go to school will have money to pay for it, without sending it to St. Paul and then begging to get it back? :p  :sarcasm:

Posted by TheTruth on Oct. 03 2006,10:24 am
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You guys all have it backwards.

Congress is going to spend $448 billion on war why they increase taxes for students and teachers.

and you say we have it backwards?

Posted by jimhanson on Oct. 03 2006,12:18 pm
You don't seem to think that defense is important.

How many students and teachers would the Imams allow in a Moslem U.S.? :dunno:

Posted by TheTruth on Oct. 04 2006,1:36 pm
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You don't seem to think that defense is important.

What about education? Isn't that important?

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