Forum: Current Events
Topic: HyVee Looking to Austin for a Main Hub?
started by: alcitizens

Posted by alcitizens on Sep. 17 2017,2:01 am
HyVee considering Austin for a main supply hub because of easy access to the interstate and a workforce..

Why not Albert Lea? We are located at the I-35 and I-90 intersection and also have a workforce friendly area..

Does ALEDA have any balls or are they a bunch of pussy's?

< https://growalbertlea.com/business-incubator-albdc/ >

Posted by Self-Banished on Sep. 17 2017,8:25 am

(alcitizens @ Sep. 17 2017,2:01 am)
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HyVee considering Austin for a main supply hub because of easy access to the interstate and a workforce..

Why not Albert Lea?

Because after 40 plus years of weak leadership AL has turned into a sh!thole.
Posted by hymiebravo on Sep. 17 2017,12:45 pm
At least Albert Lea's drivers staring at their phones are only going 30. Instead of 75 like they are on various clogged freeways in the so called "Twin Cities" area. hahahaha

Or the older ones looking at their phones driving 30 onto the freeways.

Gotta luv you truckers there. . . who drift over the lines. . . as well.

What pros.

Posted by hymiebravo on Sep. 17 2017,1:00 pm
Arguing against the local economic entities and their personnel  usually involve somewhat of a going around in circles affair.

The cheerleaders tell you: There are already 800 or something unfilled jobs in Albert Lea. ALEDA pays $300,000 a year or something in taxes. . . They cost tax payers absolutely nothing.

Those are a few that I can vaguely remember.

So. . . if you go by that. There isn't really a workforce in Albert Lea. Plus look at the population difference between Austin and Albert Lea. Austin has like 2-3 Blue Earths more of population.

So it will never be ALEDAS fault for anything ever.

See how that works?

In some ways that position reminds me of some far off military installation that is so remote it will never really see serious battle.

But the canons are finely polished and they always get an attah boy good job.

*Hyperbole laden

Posted by Self-Banished on Sep. 17 2017,3:38 pm
^^ I love when the let Otis out  :D
Posted by alcitizens on Sep. 18 2017,2:15 am
Hy-Vee distribution center to be built in Austin

Albert Lea ends up as runner-up

< http://www.albertleatribune.com/2017...-austin >

Posted by Self-Banished on Sep. 18 2017,4:45 am
Well, the city has its new firehouse to look forward to

< http://www.albertleatribune.com/2017...e-built >

Building where, Moron park?

Posted by Glad I Left on Sep. 18 2017,9:37 am
shiny new school, shiny new courthouse, shiny new firehouse and city garage on the way,  not to mention tiger hills I and II...
Build it and they will come...

Posted by Self-Banished on Sep. 18 2017,11:30 am
^^ Ray Liotta going to visit??

But I suppose more accurately, tax the sh!t out of them and they will leave.

Posted by Glad I Left on Sep. 18 2017,11:58 am
the younger ones will leave but most of the elderly can't afford to leave.  It's a dying town with no real prospects that I can see.
Get out while the gettings good I say.

Posted by Self-Banished on Sep. 19 2017,7:21 am
AL real estate will probably hit a nasty level then some enterprising  folks (maybe LeFarvre) will start buying it up, turn AL into a bedroom community.
Posted by hymiebravo on Sep. 20 2017,1:30 pm

(Glad I Left @ Sep. 18 2017,9:37 am)
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shiny new school, shiny new courthouse, shiny new firehouse and city garage on the way,  not to mention tiger hills I and II...
Build it and they will come...

I doubt that those government sponsored building qualify as being new anymore. heh

What is it after 8 years for residential housing, not considered 'new' any more?

Posted by hymiebravo on Sep. 20 2017,2:08 pm
The far west side of Austin where the proposed facility is going is pretty darn close to Albert Lea.

It's almost in Freeborn County.

And out of the hard stink perimeter of the plant. ( I think so anyway lol)

Posted by Self-Banished on Sep. 27 2017,4:30 am
Looks like AL couldn't have afforded HyVee

< http://www.albertleatribune.com/2017...-hy-vee >

On the bright side maybe AL could be absorbed as a suburb.

Posted by Liberal on Sep. 29 2017,2:02 am
We offered them 10' s of millions and it didn't work? Did we explain we had a full time fire department, new school, and courthouse?
Posted by hymiebravo on Oct. 02 2017,3:43 pm
I saw a thing on the local PBS TV station a while back involving some Minnesota statehouse committee meeting involving economic development.

There were some folks in areas up north where they said they were committing all their funds to tourism.

Albert Lea has lake clean up funds and hotel taxes for that.

But still. You look at the outlay for staffing the local economic entity over the past. . . I dunno how long has it been?

Just that alone probably winds up being a pretty significant amount

Perhaps that could have been used to buy more access on Albert lea lake. Enhance the fishing access around all lakes.

I see people fishing on the spot between Main and Bridge. It's a shambles along there.

Why hasn't anybody ever fixed that up?

Would it ruin the vibe? heh

Posted by hymiebravo on Oct. 02 2017,3:49 pm

(Self-Banished @ Sep. 27 2017,4:30 am)
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Looks like AL couldn't have afforded HyVee

< http://www.albertleatribune.com/2017...-hy-vee >

On the bright side maybe AL could be absorbed as a suburb.

Yeah don't say anything bad on social media. They've had decades to perfect their little stories that they put out to the local paper.

It seems just as crass as anything to be crying about all the millions you offered. . .

Show us some maps of all the great I-35 and I-90 access points you have instead maybe.

Posted by Botto 82 on Oct. 03 2017,11:32 pm
Albert Lea's leadership is replete with useless idiots. Austin's leadership is replete with slightly less useless idiots. That was enough to make a difference, I guess.

Austin's last two attempts at bitchfest discussion forums died off when Facebook came to town. Albert Lea's rolls on. People notice that sort of thing.

The Tribune publishes every conviction from jaywalking to speeding. Plus you have frequent visits to the Wayne and Paul Wingnut Show. The Herald reserves column inches for mostly upbeat pro-Austin/Hormel/Mayo junk, with a smattering of felon-in-possession-of-a-firearm-related stories. Kind of odd, the very different editorial styles of two newspapers that are owned by the same outfit. Nevertheless, people notice that, too.

In short, lousy leadership, and a bad image.

Posted by Self-Banished on Oct. 04 2017,4:45 am
^^ spot on :thumbsup:

Wayne and Paul wing nut show :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:

Posted by Expatriate on Oct. 04 2017,6:03 am
^pendejo

There's a lot of factors involved in locating warehousing for perishable goods, shelf-life on fresh meat is short, Hormel's location had more to do with HyVee's decision than any local Government.

The close proximity to the Hormel plant cuts transportation cost and increases shelf-life.

Austin has some say in their Utility costs, SMMPA may have cut a deal that Freeborn/Mower couldn't match. who knows..

It does irk me that we have to give Corporations large gift packages to get them to locate locally.
It's similar to the pro-sports teams that extort new stadiums from the taxpayer.

Posted by Self-Banished on Oct. 07 2017,8:01 am

(Expatriate @ Oct. 04 2017,6:03 am)
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^pendejo

There's a lot of factors involved in locating warehousing for perishable goods, shelf-life on fresh meat is short, Hormel's location had more to do with HyVee's decision than any local Government.

The close proximity to the Hormel plant cuts transportation cost and increases shelf-life.

Austin has some say in their Utility costs, SMMPA may have cut a deal that Freeborn/Mower couldn't match. who knows..

It does irk me that we have to give Corporations large gift packages to get them to locate locally.
It's similar to the pro-sports teams that extort new stadiums from the taxpayer.

Your understanding of logistics and warehouse management is staggering, (see idiota)  :dunce:

The amount of products Hormel produces at the Austin plant is insignificant when compared to the products an average grocery store carries and especially where a distribution center like HyVee is concerned.

Also, though electricity is a major cost consideration, warehouse utilities have become extremely efficient where building new facilities is concerned. LED lighting, in floor heating, the list goes on. Labor costs are dramatically decreased too ( I wonder if there will be a union)

Posted by Expatriate on Oct. 08 2017,4:56 am
Idiots use the same idioms...
Posted by Self-Banished on Oct. 08 2017,7:28 pm
^^

Must be a fan.

Posted by hymiebravo on Oct. 12 2017,9:17 am
HyVee sure did a lot for that old mall area in Austin.

That was a multi-acre wasteland till they built that new store.

Albert Lea was never able to get a real good makeover at their store it seemed because they had to stay open and build on.

Didn't have the luxury of just starting from scratch.

Seemed that way to me anyway.

Still find it hard to gripe about the distribution thing.

Better news than when the wind turbine people pretended to be considering building in both Albert Lea and Austin.

That yielded a big fat nothing.

Posted by hymiebravo on Oct. 12 2017,10:17 am

(Botto 82 @ Oct. 03 2017,11:32 pm)
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Albert Lea's leadership is replete with useless idiots. Austin's leadership is replete with slightly less useless idiots. That was enough to make a difference, I guess.

Austin's last two attempts at bitchfest discussion forums died off when Facebook came to town. Albert Lea's rolls on. People notice that sort of thing.

The Tribune publishes every conviction from jaywalking to speeding. Plus you have frequent visits to the Wayne and Paul Wingnut Show. The Herald reserves column inches for mostly upbeat pro-Austin/Hormel/Mayo junk, with a smattering of felon-in-possession-of-a-firearm-related stories. Kind of odd, the very different editorial styles of two newspapers that are owned by the same outfit. Nevertheless, people notice that, too.

In short, lousy leadership, and a bad image.

I don't really see that big of a difference in papers or leadership in either town.

The old Austin Forums were great. Lots of interesting people. I remember one time in the Mach 1 version there was a pimp on there trying to advertise his employees. It was funny to read.

There was really a wealth of archives as well.

I'm glad this forum is still around. I have gotten a lot better perspective on the Mayo hospital situation than I would have  otherwise. Thanks to some good contributors here.

I wouldn't argue that perhaps Albert Lea has suffered reputation-wise.

But if you actually look around. Their have been vast improvements and there are people who do what they can with what they have to work with.

For example - The downtown looks better than it has in forever. Maybe not back to the glory days of the Skinner's Dept store era. But way better than what many claim was a better era.

Lots of improvements all over the place in trails, parks water access. Lots of towns would luvv to have the trails alone in Albert Lea.

You had that Larson doors/windows guy open a facility.

Those are just a few off the top of my head. I don't focus on these things that much so. . . It is a limited list.

Point is. . . some of the people saying that it is such a crap hole. should really have a look around.

And there are still improvements being made.

Not everyone likes traffic jams and smog.

Funny thing is I know people who think Albert Lea is too big of a place to raise a family. heh

Posted by hymiebravo on Oct. 12 2017,10:19 am
Oh. . . and Albert Lea doesn't smell like an NYC sized hog confinement facility.
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