Forum: Current Events
Topic: Hospital closing
started by: Liberal

Posted by Liberal on Jun. 12 2017,10:17 pm
Looks like we're losing the hospital. Before you start bitching about local government ask yourself how many times you ran it down, or asked to have your family member transferred to Rochester or Austin.

< http://m.albertleatribune.com/2017...-austin >

Posted by seulloup on Jun. 13 2017,6:07 am
Hospital isn't closing, just changing the types of patients that will be admitted there.  Typical medical surgical patients will take over the entire Austin campus and Albert Lea will become fully behavioral health oriented.  This may be a mix of psychiatric, chemical dependency or medical psychiatric care which would be patients with a primary medical diagnosis suffering from psychiatric complications that would make them not safe to care for in a general medical setting.  

It's frustrating all around since change is obviously difficult for staff and patients alike, and everyone has their own opinion of Mayo's motivations.  

I do actually believe the math and it checks out for people I am close to that 95% of what I need medical care for will still be right here in Albert Lea.

Posted by Expatriate on Jun. 13 2017,8:39 am
^^Death Knell for Albert Lea—we all eventually reach that point when we need hospitalization.. this is a big negative for our community
Posted by hymiebravo on Jun. 14 2017,8:51 am
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Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 14 2017,10:40 am

(hymiebravo @ Jun. 14 2017,8:51 am)
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3. Austin isn't really that far. Although never was that impressed with their facility there. But that could be an entire conversation in itself lol. But the commute between Rochester and Austin is a little less painful than the Albert lea to Rochester one is. And as of right now there is a bigger population there.

4. Rochester is overrated

Try to tell either of these two points to a heart attack or stoke victim.
Posted by Chamber Maid on Jun. 14 2017,1:03 pm
Just ask the parents of School Kids. Do they  trust what they were told by this same person?

Remember the wonderful School Calendar. Wasn't it slipped in even though it was voted down?

Do you suppose there will be a move from the mansion west of town closer to Mother Mayo(before property values drop?)

Hang on it's gonna be a bumpy ride.

2017 Job Loss
Fountain Industry 50 jobs
Streaters 70 Jobs
Hospital    ? jobs

Don't worry we can paint more streets with bike trails!!!

Posted by Whiskero on Jun. 14 2017,1:15 pm
This will not help Albert Lea bring in more jobs.
Posted by Expatriate on Jun. 14 2017,1:33 pm

(Whiskero @ Jun. 14 2017,1:15 pm)
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This will not help Albert Lea bring in more jobs.

or attract retirees...if I had known they were closing the hospital I never would have relocated to Albert lea...
Posted by Liberal on Jun. 14 2017,3:20 pm
With ICU closing on Oct. 1st. the press release is disingenuous at best. It leaves people with the impression that the hospital closing will take years and that employees will just transfer to Austin.
Posted by Liberal on Jun. 14 2017,3:24 pm

(seulloup @ Jun. 13 2017,6:07 am)
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Hospital isn't closing, just changing the types of patients that will be admitted there.

That's a ridiculous spin. Its no longer a hospital if you can't admit anyone but a psychiatric patient.
Posted by Expatriate on Jun. 14 2017,5:23 pm

(Liberal @ Jun. 14 2017,3:20 pm)
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With ICU closing on Oct. 1st. the press release is disingenuous at best. It leaves people with the impression that the hospital closing will take years and that employees will just transfer to Austin.

They just put the same spin on KIMT that no one would lose their job and that Mayo is Albert lea's biggest employer.
How do they accomplish that trick? They don't— they're cutting costs, that means cutting employees and Albert lea residents be damned..

There are communities in Minnesota with much smaller populations than Albert Lea's and still maintain hospital beds for their residents!

This is an outrageous move by Mayo, it's NOT about healthcare it's about more money..

< http://www.mnhospitals.org/mn-hospitals/find-a-hospital >

Posted by Liberal on Jun. 14 2017,8:11 pm
To be fair the Tribune has always reported by press release, apparently they've just been ahead of the times.
Posted by Botto 82 on Jun. 15 2017,8:33 am
Well, look at the bright side: You can enjoy our big, new HY-Vee when you're here.  :D
Posted by Expatriate on Jun. 15 2017,9:44 am
We have three major Nursing Homes in this community, what sense does it make to transport all those folks to Austin...

When you take your child to the clinic and the Doc says I think we should put in the hospital for observation, off to Austin the child goes.

What happens to health insurance rates in a community that doesn't have a hospital—insurance companies just going to eat that ambulance or air ambulance ride..rates will increase.

Now we have a legitimate use for the Wilson/Farmstead lot. we don't need a new city hall or fire-station, we need a community hospital/clinic.

@ Peggy Bennett, we need to hear more from you than "we'll get through this"..
You were pushing a bonding bill to relocate Front Street for lake front property for things we don't need, well a community hospital and clinic is something we need desperately for the well-being of our community.

@ the Mayor/city Councilmen and County Commissioners lets fight this all the way our future as a city and county are being threatened by corporate decisions made 60 miles away.  

If we put up a fight Mayo just might see the light...there's over thirty thousand of us here in Freeborn County we deserve a local Hospital or we become a competitor on both the hospital and clinic fronts.

Posted by Expatriate on Jun. 15 2017,10:50 am
This letter is from Paul Overgaard and worth the read—former member of the Minnesota Senate and the Minnesota House of Representatives

< http://www.albertleatribune.com/2017...etrayal >

Posted by Chamber Maid on Jun. 15 2017,2:00 pm
I  have just finished reading the Tribune article written by Paul Overgaard

This action he describes generates several emotions, anger, frustration, disappointment, but mostly a feeling of betrayal. I’m sure was part of a plan laid out for several years , one that included and involves  money of federal funds.

I am angry because is Paul was trusted by the taxpayers of our city . Each move he made moved us down an irreversible decline as a city trusting its government officials

I am frustrated and disappointed because he gave a bad name  to our  community as tax  dollars flowed  toward the building or apartment scandal he was involved with . Many others in our community felt the same way  as evidenced by his name on the wall of shame he brought to town . His name should not be there in the first place. In short, I feel we were used. Paul tried to  persuade us he was going to represent the people not try to get more money by pushing the envelope on the apartment scandal.   I believed you. Now I feel I was hoodwinked. To Paul, I say, “Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.”

Paul : Don't through stones if you live in a glass house! May be you don't have any windows??

Pauls good friend  In 1995 he pleaded guilty to charges of misuse of public funds with Paul's help

< http://articles.latimes.com/1993-04...nberger >

Its people like Paul that have hurt our community and when things go wrong he is the first one to blame someone else like Mayo.

Mayo didn't cause our taxes to be high which causes lack of growth which lowers our population.
If we were thriving Mayo wouldn't think twice about staying or expanding.
Splash pads downtown wide sidewalks bike trails dredged lakes are nice but we also need jobs.
Which seem to be leaving more than ever this year!!!

Posted by Expatriate on Jun. 15 2017,2:35 pm
^^what can you expect of Overgaard,  he's a Republican after all..
but I do agree with him on this issue; Mayo betrayed US..
Our Mayor is an employee of Mayo so I don't see local government as much help either...

Posted by Expatriate on Jun. 16 2017,8:11 am
Letter to the editor~Joe Ferguson

< http://www.albertleatribune.com/2017...-winner >

Posted by hymiebravo on Jun. 16 2017,3:33 pm
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Posted by hymiebravo on Jun. 16 2017,3:38 pm
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Posted by Liberal on Jun. 16 2017,9:26 pm
Do you think Ciotti will become more hated than Keith Barnes, and will he eventually decide to leave town too?
Posted by Expatriate on Jun. 17 2017,6:16 am
Keith Barnes may have took the blame on the Wilson/Farmstead failure but it was actually LTV that sunk the ship...

As for Ciota, he's been in-charge of Austin and Albert lea since 2012, but I'm sure his marching orders come from Rochester.
Surely his masters will sweeten his compensation package, I see a large bonus in his future for selling out Albert Lea/Freeborn County!

What we are going to see here is a redundancy in staff, we'll see hours cut, positions eliminated, or hours cut to the point they'll look elsewhere..how many will drive to Austin for a .5 or less—Add to that Austin already has a fully staffed hospital!

We'll see hundreds lose employment and medical benefits in the name of capital resources, E.g. more money for Mayo's other interests.

The impact of this move is yet to felt, not only by loyal Mayo employees who are being shafted—but our entire city and county population who will see a decline in local healthcare that will be reflected in mortality!

Shame on Mayo..  

edit: for those of you who are inexperience with a Doctor/Hospital relationship—If an Albert Lea Doctor admits you to the Hospital, said Doctor will now have to travel to Austin to do his/her Hospital rounds, meaning more time on the road less time in the Clinic!

The other option—your Primary Care Physician who you know and trust hands you off to a unknown third party in Austin.

Hence not only are we losing our hospital, the clinic will also see a decline in healthcare quality,..I'd think any qualified Physician wouldn't even consider taking a position in Albert Lea.  

 
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– DO NOT FORWARD OUTSIDE OF MAYO CLINIC

This message is being sent to all Albert Lea and Austin staff on behalf of Dr. Bobbie Gostout and Dr. Mark Ciota.
Colleagues,
After many months of careful data gathering, analysis and review of our services in Albert Lea and Austin, we’re now at a point to be able to share plans for the future state on both campuses at Mayo Clinic Health System in Albert Lea and Austin. These plans have been vetted and approved throughout the Southeast Minnesota region and Mayo Clinic Health System governing bodies. The changes to the Albert Lea and Austin campuses will take place over time, probably several years, as further planning and remodeling will be needed.  Project details will continue to be developed throughout 2017, and changes to services will gradually occur during the remainder of 2017 and will likely continue through 2020.
As we’ve mentioned several times over the last year, both campuses will continue to function as top-tier medical centers. Through careful analysis, it has been determined that more than 95% of our services are delivered on an outpatient basis. These are the things that people think of when they say they want to receive care locally: primary care; pediatrics and pregnancy care; specialty care; emergency room; pharmacy; radiology and laboratory services. The most commonly used services will continue to be available in both Albert Lea and Austin.
Fewer than 5% of our services are delivered in an inpatient setting:  hospitalization for serious illness or injury; ICU; childbirth services; major surgeries requiring hospitalization. Thankfully, most people may only need these services a few times over the course of a lifetime. We are focusing our efforts to keep these services available within 30 minutes for most of our patients.
To make the best use of our resources and to be able to continue to provide safe, high-quality care for our patients, the 5% of care we deliver in the inpatient (hospital) setting will be located on our Austin campus. This includes medical, surgical and pediatric hospital care, labor and delivery, Intensive Care Unit (ICU), and inpatient surgeries. Keeping most inpatient care on the Austin campus will allow us to offer higher levels of care and testing options to patients and make the best use of capital resources by staffing single, larger units and avoiding duplication of expensive equipment and technology.
A detailed facilities analysis showed that the Austin campus offered the best layout for the expansion of hospital rooms, a larger Intensive Care Unit (ICU) and room for additional growth, making it the right choice for housing all of these services in one location. Albert Lea’s campus will continue to offer primary and specialty care, emergency care, pregnancy care, radiology, lab, pharmacy and other frequently used services. In addition, the Albert Lea hospital will house our inpatient behavioral health (PSU) and addiction services.
Making the best use of staff and capital resources is particularly important in today’s competitive health care environment. By adjusting our services across both campuses, we’ll be able to offer higher levels of care to patients in larger, state-of-the-art units. We’ll be able to invest more in the latest technology and equipment because we won’t be staffing and equipping two identical units in neighboring communities. We anticipate higher staff satisfaction and greater opportunities to recruit and retain physicians, nurse practitioners and physician assistants, and nurses due to less call coverage and more staff to share the workload.
The changes to the Albert Lea and Austin campuses will take place over time, probably several years, as remodeling will be needed. The first phase will involve moving all Intensive Care Unit (ICU) services to the Austin campus in October of 2017, and consolidating most inpatient surgeries on the Austin campus in early 2018. Also in 2018, work will continue to expand ICU services in Austin and to remodel the Albert Lea campus to accommodate inpatient behavioral health and addiction services. Throughout 2018 and 2019, remodeling projects will create more space for medical/surgical/pediatric services and childbirth services on the Austin campus.
Changes in staffing models will need to occur on both campuses. Flexibility will be needed, and some staff may have to consider changes in their primary location or roles. We value each and every one of you and are grateful for the commitment you’ve shown to each other and to our patients. We will do all we can to make the transitions as smooth as possible.
We know that change is hard, and we are asking our staff, patients and communities to adjust to a new way of delivering and receiving care. I-90 leaders will be meeting with government leaders and key community groups and organizations to openly discuss these changes over the next few weeks and months to ensure our communities understand what is changing and why. Mayo Clinic Health System is building a viable and affordable system of care with the future of our patients in mind. This will require change for our staff, patients and community partners.
Our leadership team will be available for staff listening sessions where you are welcome to ask questions about any of these changes on the following dates and times:

Date

Time

Locations

Wednesday, June 14

7 a.m.

Albert Lea – Foundation Board Room
Austin – Knowlton Board Room

Thursday, June 15

7 a.m.

Albert Lea – Foundation Board Room
Austin – Knowlton Board Room

Friday, June 16

7 a.m.

Albert Lea – Foundation Board Room
Austin – Classroom 3

Friday, June 16

Noon

Albert Lea – Foundation Board Room
Austin – Classroom 3

Resources are available on the Albert Lea and Austin intranet regarding these changes, including Key Messages and Frequently Asked Questions to help you prepare to discuss these changes with patients, family and friends. Please remember these documents are Business Confidential and should NOT be shared outside of Mayo Clinic.
We all have a personal stake in ensuring that the future of health care remains viable in both the Albert Lea and Austin communities, now and well into the future. Our family and friends depend on us to be there for them, and the proactive changes we are making will ensure we can fulfill that commitment. It’s been a difficult and time-consuming process to get to this point and we cannot thank you enough for your continued support during this time and in the coming months.
With many thanks,

Bobbie Gostout, M.D., Vice President, Mayo Clinic
Mark Koch, Chair of Administration, Mayo Clinic Health System
Mark Ciota, M.D., CEO, Albert Lea and Austin
Sumit Bhagra, M.D., Medical Director, Albert Lea and Austin
Kris Johnson, Associate Administrator, Albert Lea and Austin
Lori Routh, R.N., Nurse Administrator, Albert Lea and Austin
Tricia Dahl, Operations Administrator, Albert Lea and Austin

Posted by Liberal on Jun. 17 2017,11:05 am
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The first phase will involve moving all Intensive Care Unit (ICU) services to the Austin campus in October of 2017, and consolidating most inpatient surgeries on the Austin campus in early 2018.


Apparently the talk of this taking years was another lie.

Posted by Expatriate on Jun. 17 2017,2:42 pm
Can't see how this works out, I hope Ciota can come through with the spin he put out to the news outlets.(no one loses their job)

But when compared the patient nurse ratio of ICU or Med/Surg floor to a treatment center or even Psychiatry/Psychology Treatment Center the numbers just aren't there.
Austin might be able to pickup a few nurses but my guess the auxiliary jobs are gone.
When you add all the auxiliary jobs and departments it takes to keep the Hospital running those jobs are already filled at Austin, and won't be needed in a behavioral/alcohol/drug treatment center.

Mayo already runs a Psychiatry/PsychologyTreatment Center in Rochester with the Republican heath bill eliminating 24 million Americans running two similar units only 60 miles apart may be a losing proposition.

Not even sure the new Republican bill  mandates for mental heath or substance abuse..It hasn't been that long ago most insurance companies didn't pay for those issues.

Posted by Chamber Maid on Jun. 18 2017,5:26 pm
But the Blue Zones will save us.

And now we get to go downtown and eat outside on wide sidewalks which are seldom full.

And ride our bikes to the frisbee golf course!!!!!
Which is seldom used.

Don't worry
Everything will be fine once they suck the crap out of the lake that they said they would do this August.(2017)
Opps now its  next August.(2018)

Guess they misspoke again

Just like Ciota

Posted by Liberal on Jun. 20 2017,10:07 pm
This guy is a complete fricken coward. He needs to decide if he's the mayor of Albert Lea or a Mayo employee.
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Albert Lea Mayor Vern Rasmussen said he was disappointed with the hospital’s decision and declined further comment. He is employed as a physical therapist at the HealthReach campus of Mayo Clinic Health System in Albert Lea.

Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 21 2017,5:32 am
^^I would imagine Mayo butters his muffin a bit more than being mayor of AL.
Posted by Glad I Left on Jun. 21 2017,7:58 am
Been out of state the last month plus, trying to catch up on this.
Seems incredible..
A.L. is now officially a town people go to die, a retirement community with no hospital... Sad.  Get out while the gettins' good I'd say.

Posted by Whiskero on Jun. 21 2017,8:44 am
Mrs. Jerry's helped out Wedgewood Cove, maybe she'll influence a hospital.
Posted by Expatriate on Jun. 21 2017,9:56 am
Vogt may have a little power locally but the only people that could turn this around are the Mayo Board of trustees, and they already gave Mayo Management the go ahead.

If you search the Mayo Board of Trustees you'll find the names of some ( management ) that also hold seats on the board of Trustees..

this decision wasn't made yesterday..

< http://www.mayoclinic.org/about-mayo-clinic/governance/trustees >

< http://www.mayoclinic.org/about-mayo-clinic/governance/leadership >

Posted by Whiskero on Jun. 21 2017,2:21 pm
Well, if I was one of the donors that contributed mega dollars, I would demand my money back or sue.
Posted by Expatriate on Jun. 21 2017,3:33 pm
Letter to Editor Don Sorenson—well I've finally found one of Mr. Sorenson's letters worth reading!

< http://www.albertleatribune.com/2017...ert-lea >

The Second letter to the Editor is from Gretchen Claussen

< http://www.albertleatribune.com/2017...ospital >

Gretchen wants a local group of doctors to buy the old Farmstead lot and build a Hospital/Clinic, I'd go few steps farther, I'd say we give that piece of land to any group of doctors willing to help. I'm sure starting a hospital and getting accreditation is no easy task. The City, (this means US) should hold the controlling interest in this venture so down the road we don't see a repeat of how Mayo pulled the wool over our eyes.
Our Board of Directors should be comprised of locals, who care about the welfare/heath of our city and it's citizens.  

When I was a young man most of the Albert Lea's Doctors were in the Freeborn National bank building downtown. the upper floors were known as the Medical Arts Building, The city also owns that building, lets turn that building into a temporary clinic while we raise funds to help these Doctors build the new clinic/hospital on the Farmstead site.

This is the type of thing that we need help from our local and state representatives for bonding, this will be an expensive venture.

Lets NOT Let Mayo steamroll us folks from Albert Lea!!

Mayo owns 33 taxable properties in our city and county, I suggest we raise the tax on these "Rochester Med City" folks at the soonest opportunity so they can help pay for our new hospital/clinic.

Posted by Chamber Maid on Jun. 22 2017,2:16 am
Mayo R  Vern

Taking the easy way out with No comment?
Give me a break

Don't he and his wife both work for Mayo?

And he just found out about this?

In 1776 they called them turncoats.

Say it ain't so Mayo R

Posted by Expatriate on Jun. 22 2017,6:50 am
^^MayoR Vern Rasmussen and Jason Howland, Third Ward Councilor, are both Mayo Employees and should automatically be disqualified from office for conflict of interest.

The Mayor is paid $12,000. the Councilman $8,000. plus pension accrual, these monies should be stopped immediately and redirected to a seed money fund for a new hospital!

Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 22 2017,8:24 am

(Expatriate @ Jun. 22 2017,6:50 am)
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^^MayoR Vern Rasmussen and Jason Howland, Third Ward Councilor, are both Mayo Employees and should automatically be disqualified from office for conflict of interest.

The Mayor is paid $12,000. the Councilman $8,000. plus pension accrual, these monies should be stopped immediately and redirected to a seed money fund for a new hospital!

Disqualified from office because of their job? Paid $8 to $12k a year?
Everybody has an interest or a bias, who are you to judge?

You probably should be thankful you live so close to world class healthcare.

Posted by Glad I Left on Jun. 22 2017,8:36 am
I haven't been to or through Austin in probably 10 years but I always considered it an equally dismal city as Albert Lea.  Is Austin that much better than AL that justifies the hospital be there?
I get that they have Hormel, and that Hormel basically keeps the town afloat but still...

Posted by Expatriate on Jun. 22 2017,8:37 am
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Disqualified from office because of their job? Paid $8 to $12k a year?
Everybody has an interest or a bias, who are you to judge?

^^Mr. Rasmussen and Mr. Howland are Albert Lea's elected officials, they're in an impossible situation, their career interests are impeding their civic duties to our citizens.

This conflict of interest should be concerning to any LOCAL citizen.

Maybe they'll prove me wrong and turnout leaders against Mayo's move to cripple our city..so far we've seen little from our city leadership!

If you actually lived in our community you'd be concerned.

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You probably should be thankful you live so close to world class healthcare.

that high quality healthcare is on the decline locally, and it's not going to stop with the hospital.

Posted by Expatriate on Jun. 22 2017,9:24 am

(Glad I Left @ Jun. 22 2017,8:36 am)
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I haven't been to or through Austin in probably 10 years but I always considered it an equally dismal city as Albert Lea.  Is Austin that much better than AL that justifies the hospital be there?
I get that they have Hormel, and that Hormel basically keeps the town afloat but still...

Hormel employee healthcare benefits aren't what they once were but you still have a large number of folks with basic insurance from an employer+ quality pork or whatever they call it. aka Hormel.

When you add to that the Hormel Institute (Medical Research Money)
Hormel Cooperate Headquarters—you have a number of wealthy influential people that have connections to the Mayo Foundation.

Albert Lea/Freeborn County has a large sector of the population who are dependent on Medical Assistance or MinnesotaCare, these folks are at risk of losing insurance under the new Republican Heathcare Bill..

Edit
Comparing Mower County poverty rates to Freeborn County Mower is the winner again...they've got more folks on the dole, so that's not why we're losing our hospital.

Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 22 2017,9:46 am

(Expatriate @ Jun. 22 2017,8:37 am)
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If you actually lived in our community you'd be concerned.


that high quality healthcare is on the decline locally, and it's not going to stop with the hospital.

I grew up there, it sucked then and probably sucks more now. I improved my lot by moving.

The quality health care I refer to is Mayo Rochester, relatively close at 70 miles, Austin at 20 miles. Albert Lea is not losing emergency room service as I understand it.

< http://www.mayoclinic.org/about-mayo-clinic/quality/rankings >

Posted by Chamber Maid on Jun. 22 2017,11:41 am
Mayo Clinic, Wabasha confirm long-rumored divorce

< http://www.postbulletin.com/news...6a.html >

Posted by Liberal on Jun. 23 2017,12:50 am
I doubt we can expect any help from Mayo lackeys like Vern Rasmussen, so maybe everyone we should contact Franken, Walz, and Klobuchar.

< http://walz.house.gov >

< https://www.franken.senate.gov/?p=contact >


< https://www.klobuchar.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/email-amy >

Posted by Expatriate on Jun. 23 2017,7:43 am
The Tribune is running a poll on the Hospital closing issue, so far the votes are overwhelmingly against Mayo's decision.

The new Republican Healthcare bill leaves substance abuse and mental issues up-to State Legislatures—the only thing standing in the way of Minnesota losing insurance coverage on these issues is Governor Mark Dayton. if this thing passes and most likely will sooner or later there goes the treatment behavioral heath center...

More Letters to the Editor.   

< http://www.albertleatribune.com/2017...-l-s-er >

< http://www.albertleatribune.com/2017...er-time >

< http://www.albertleatribune.com/2017...-graves >

< http://www.albertleatribune.com/2017...-choice >

Posted by Expatriate on Jun. 23 2017,9:27 am
Looking for Albert Lea Mayo operating margins ran across this rural hospital Top Preforming Hospital list! Austin didn't make the grade, but Albert Lea did, there's an epidemic of under preforming rural hospitals closing but apparently Albert Lea's hospital is doing an OUTSTANDING job. Top 100 rural Hospitals — Albert Lea — Mayo you got some splainin to do!!

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There is no better illustration of the value that rural facilities provide to their communities than the annual identification and recognition of the top performing rural facilities. Each year, the rural hospitals are analyzed through the lens of the Hospital Strength INDEX, the industry’s most comprehensive and objective assessment of rural hospital performance in the US.

Amidst uncertainty, transition and strain, these top performers are excelling in managing risk, achieving higher quality, securing better outcomes, increasing patient satisfaction, and operating at a lower cost than their peers. These groups serve as a benchmark for other rural facilities as they strive to achieve similar results and provide a blueprint for successfully navigating the uncertainty of the new healthcare.


< http://www.ivantageindex.com/top-performing-hospitals/ >

< http://www.ivantageindex.com/wp-cont...ist.pdf >

Albert Lea's Hospital Ranks in the top 4 rural Hospitals in Minnesota and the top 100 rural Hospitals Nationally!

Posted by pepi-lapew on Jun. 23 2017,9:31 am
Just think how much money could be saved by not giving a dime to all these ILLEAGLE RATS. They should be able stand on there own and not get any type of welfare.
Posted by locknload on Jun. 23 2017,1:58 pm
Yea good luck with that , theres too many feel sorry for you everyone gets a trophy in this world!
Posted by Whiskero on Jun. 23 2017,2:50 pm
Another questionable aspect is the distance from Austin to Rochester and Albert Lea to Rochester.  Wouldn't you think that the hospital that is closest to Rochester would be closing?  The people of Austin would not have as far to drive as A. Lea people.  I looked at that list of rural hospitals.  That would be another question to ask at the Thursday night meeting.
Posted by Liberal on Jun. 23 2017,3:19 pm
Mayo put out a press release in Feb. that said Austin and Albert Lea both made the list?

< http://m.austindailyherald.com/2017...spitals >

Posted by Liberal on Jun. 23 2017,3:29 pm
The list of hospitals in Minnesota.

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Minnesota
District One Hospital (Faribault)

Lake Region Healthcare (Fergus Falls)

Mayo Clinic Health System – Albert Lea (Minn.)

Winona (Minn.) Health Services


< http://www.beckershospitalreview.com/ranking...ls.html >

Posted by Whiskero on Jun. 23 2017,5:04 pm
Wonder what list they were looking at?
Posted by Liberal on Jun. 23 2017,5:24 pm
If Austin was really included on the list then it's actually a list of 101 hospitals?

I sent an email to the company asking them to verify the information in the article and if Austin isn't on the list I'll ask both papers to correct the story.

Posted by hymiebravo on Jun. 24 2017,9:49 am
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Posted by Expatriate on Jun. 25 2017,6:59 am
Missed this Editorial in the Tribune, our local community newspaper is doing good work on this issue. thank you...



Editorial: Albert Lea
community deserves more explanation

By Editorial Board

Email the author

Published 10:00 pm Tuesday, June 20, 2017

It has been more than a week since Mayo Clinic Health System in Albert Lea and Austin officials announced plans to consolidate most inpatient services to the organization’s Austin campus. With that comes moving the intensive care unit, major surgeries that require overnight hospitalization and childbirth. The change is expected to take place over the next three years.

The behavioral services unit will also move from the Austin campus to the Albert Lea campus, and the changes will require a $25 million investment in total at both locations, much of which will be in Austin.

We at the Tribune were as shocked as the rest of the community to hear the news and arrived at the media briefing June 13 with a page full of questions we hoped to have answered. We had a handful of our questions answered, but unfortunately left the briefing that day with many more. That list continues to grow as time goes on.

Mayo Clinic Health System officials have cited a nationwide physician shortage, rising costs and declining reimbursements as reasons for their announced changes. At some level, anyone who manages their home finances or a business understands that you can’t operate at a loss. Something has to give. If this is the case, we ask that the health system provide detailed financial reports to the community to show why this is needed. Was the organization operating at a loss or close to it? Did the Austin campus have better profitability than the Albert Lea campus? What is expected to be saved by moving forward with this decision?

Aside from the business end of the announcement, we had some concerns with a few of the specific changes. While we think having scheduled surgeries in Austin will be a relatively easy transition for most residents, we have questions about other overnight hospital stays that will require transporting patients to Austin.

Elderly patients who fall are often required to be held over for observation. Moving these patients to Rochester seems like an unnecessary expense for both the patient and the hospital. We are also concerned with moving The Baby Place from Albert Lea and the risk this may have for mothers in labor.

Although officials have stated emergency room services will be maintained, we believe that times are about to get riskier for the high-risk patients. Will surgeons be on hand for patients who need emergency surgery, or will these patients need to be transported to Austin for this to take place? Sometimes a few minutes can mean the difference in life and death.

These and many additional questions we and others would like to get answered. We ask hospital officials to put yourselves in the shoes of your patients and be transparent in the discussions about these changes.

Consider having a community meeting to allow concerned residents to voice their opinions and questions while giving Mayo officials the opportunity to respond all in one setting.

Posted by Expatriate on Jun. 25 2017,7:22 am
Meeting planned for next Thursday to discuss Mayo transition

ALBERT LEA — A public meeting is planned next Thursday in the Albert Lea High School auditorium to discuss the recent announcement by Mayo Clinic Health System in Albert Lea and Austin to transition most inpatient services to its Austin campus.

Albert Lea City Manager Chad Adams said during a council study session Thursday that he expects local Mayo public relations staff to attend the event, and Mayo Clinic officials in Rochester have also been invited.

A time for the meeting has not been announced. The possibility of Mayo Clinic officials submitting written answers to constituents if they are not able to attend the meeting was also discussed Thursday by the council.

Posted by Expatriate on Jun. 25 2017,7:48 am
Thought this interesting, Polls from both Albert Lea's and Austin's papers, it seems residents of both communities are against Mayo's move to consolidate.
Posted by Botto 82 on Jun. 25 2017,2:59 pm
Mayo has been acquiring and demolishing houses in one of the most picturesque neighborhoods in Austin, ostensibly for a new mental health center. I guess plans changed recently.

I don't get it - if there's such a doctor shortage, why doesn't Mayo invest in more doctors? They certainly have the resources. The only other thing they seem to do with the oodles of leftover cash is knock nice houses down.

Posted by Expatriate on Jun. 26 2017,10:10 am
Mayo earnings hit by Medicaid, labor costs

Mayo posted $475 million in net income on $11 billion in revenue, down about 10 percent from 2015 net income of $526.4 million, according to the clinic's latest financial report.

< http://www.startribune.com/mayo-ea...4764003 >



Mission Vision and Value Statements Mayo Clinic

Mission
To inspire hope, and contribute to health and well-being by providing the best care to every patient through integrated clinical practice, education and research.
Vision
Mayo Clinic will provide an unparalleled experience as the most trusted partner for health care.
Value
The needs of the patient come first.


yep, we can strike that..

Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 26 2017,12:30 pm
This is just a question but does Mayo owe anything to the city? Contractual? Tax breaks on property (s) ? Etc?
Posted by Chamber Maid on Jun. 26 2017,4:31 pm
Medical Tourism

< https://www.bostonglobe.com/lifesty...ry.html >

Posted by Liberal on Jun. 26 2017,7:08 pm
< https://www.fastcompany.com/3041355...an-city >

It's supposed to be a destination for foreigners, not people from southern mn.

The map of Mn hospitals makes it obvious they intend for everyone in S.E. MN to get treated at a Mayo hospital in Rochester.

< http://www.stratishealth.org/pubs/qualityupdate/f14/numbers.html >

Posted by Liberal on Jun. 26 2017,7:38 pm
The Tribune says we cant call anyone a douchebag at Thursday's forum, even if they are a douchebag.  :cool:

< http://m.albertleatribune.com/2017...ctfully >

Posted by Expatriate on Jun. 27 2017,8:58 am
When you have a Medical Organization bring in about a half billion yearly in profit yet they're closing a hospital and consolidating with another community it does question motive.

Bean counter's can paint any type picture they desire if given enough time, and they've had time to paint this one..

The State of Minnesota keeps records— Health Care Cost Information System (HCCIS) Data, they have Institution and Hospital Margin Data 2012 to 2015, if I've ever seen fuzzy math it's in these spreadsheets, they're fairly basic, it's impossible to tell where the money is going! prior years are available upon request.

< http://www.health.state.mn.us/divs/hpsc/dap/hccis/stndrdrpts.htm >

XLSX files, takes Microsoft Office Excel 2007 or newer to open
or Openoffice Calc 4.1.2

We'll hear the song and dance routine about these unsustainable losses Thursday.

Not every entity of every corporation is profitable all the time. If what we see in these spreadsheets was actual losses heads would have rolled long ago.

Remember Mayo is pulling a half billion in net income yearly, they also just got a half billion in tax dollars!

Is the Mission Statement of Mayo healthcare or more money?

Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 27 2017,10:23 am
So no answer to my question?
Posted by Liberal on Jun. 28 2017,12:35 am
Sorry, you're far too simple to understand any answers we give you. So if you could please submit that question in writing to our PR people, and local government lackeys, we'll get back to you at Thursday's meeting.
Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 28 2017,4:27 am
^^ :rofl:
Posted by Expatriate on Jun. 28 2017,7:40 am
Looks like you'll have to submit that question to Randy Kehr (Chamber of Commerce) who will be moderating a panel discussion between Mark Ciota,  Bobbie Gostout, vice president of Mayo Clinic and Chris Shoff, Freeborn County District 4 commissioner; and Chad Adams, Albert Lea city manager.

The County is talking legal action against Mayo,  all the fluff about nobody losing their job has disappeared, we're talking 500 jobs now, these are some of Albert Lea's best paying jobs, how many bankruptcies will we see, our school district will see this hit down the road...more lost jobs..

< http://www.albertleatribune.com/2017...-clinic >

Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 28 2017,8:08 am
The question still is, does Mayo owe the city anything, tax breaks, loans etc. if they don't the county and the city haven't a leg to stand on.
Posted by Botto 82 on Jun. 28 2017,8:37 am

(Liberal @ Jun. 28 2017,12:35 am)
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Sorry, you're far too simple to understand any answers we give you. So if you could please submit that question in writing to our PR people, and local government lackeys, we'll get back to you at Thursday's meeting.

Ahh, I see Paul Sparks is alive and well...  :rofl:
Posted by Liberal on Jun. 28 2017,2:46 pm
If you don't allow one side to speak it's not really a meeting.
Posted by Expatriate on Jun. 28 2017,4:04 pm
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A public meeting featuring a question-and-answer session to discuss the transition with Mayo officials and government leaders is planned for 7 p.m. Thursday in the Albert Lea High School auditorium.

Randy Kehr, executive director of the Albert Lea-Freeborn County Chamber of Commerce, will moderate a panel discussion with Mark Ciota, CEO of Mayo Clinic Health System in Albert Lea and Austin; Bobbie Gostout, vice president of Mayo Clinic and leader of Mayo Clinic Health System; Chris Shoff, Freeborn County District 4 commissioner; and Chad Adams, Albert Lea city manager.


It's difficult to tell by the way it's worded but I believe the audience will also be able to question the panel...if not there would be an uproar..

Posted by hymiebravo on Jun. 29 2017,8:10 am
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Posted by Glad I Left on Jun. 30 2017,7:16 am
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Albert lea divesting themselves of Mayo and looking for something else seems like a good idea. imo

Not sure how that could be done tho.

My parents came up to watch my youngest play some baseball last night and I was talking to them about this.
I was saying that Allina or Sanford could be possibilities to move it but my mom seems to think that Mayo owns the hospital building. Unlikely they'd sell or lease to a competitor.
Wonder if the city has any leverage for any TIF or bonding for all the remodeling done in recent years to the building?

Posted by Liberal on Jun. 30 2017,8:27 am
We'd apparently use eminent domain to take the hospital from Mayo.
Posted by Expatriate on Jun. 30 2017,8:29 am
We have a city that hasn't blinked twice about putting together a 50 million dollar package to relocate city hall to lake front property on the old Farmstead lot. Lets change the priority of the Blazing Star Landing project to the rebirth of Naeve Hospital/Albert Lea Clinic.
There are plenty of unaffiliated small town Hospital/Clinics operating profitably..  

Mayo claimed revenue losses as the reasoning for closing the hospital, they blamed Medicare and Medicaid, are we to believe the same market forces that effect revenues at the hospital wouldn't be the same for the Clinic...it's only a matter of time before they consolidate Clinic operations.

My opinion, Mayo is extremely top heavy, it's board of trustees is made up of extremely wealthy Corporate Executives, they're on some Med City Destination Craze and us rural rubes can suck hind tit.

Austin, they're taking Albert Lea out first, but you guy's have more Medicaid and Medicare folks, combine that with ours and you guys will hear the same song and dance routine from Mayo down the road as they funnel us all to the Med City, if you've got the money...

When Mayo Clinic’s chief executive made this announcement they showed their hand: "The Rochester-based health system will give preference to patients with private insurance over those with lower-paying Medicaid or Medicare coverage, if they seek care at the same time and have comparable conditions."

Mark Ciota is the Kieth Barnes of this deal, this stuff is going on way above his pay-grade.. Ciota was actually involved with the Naeve Health Care Foundation, their mission statement—Ensuring the Future Of Local Quality Heath Care..there are a number of other local folks on the board..we should follow through on Foundations Mission Statement.

Posted by Alfy Packer on Jun. 30 2017,10:49 am
Last night I found out that I was reliable.  Back when Mayo wanted the community to help fund putting additional floors on the new clinic building, I listened to the lies and went out with those lies and retold them to help raise money for the expansion.  "By having the expanded facilities, Albert Lea was going to be able to attract the medical staff needed to sustain services in our community."  Well last night I couldn't keep claiming that those statements I was retelling were apple butter.  It looked like apple butter, but I must conclude it was deodorize Mayo sh-t!  Well I retold that lie and retold it until I became totally RELIABLE.  For this I am truly sorry!
Posted by Alfy Packer on Jun. 30 2017,11:40 am
In addition to being in the Albert Lea High School Auditorium last night, I have just read the Tribune to see if what I thought was said had been heard by the media.  After Dr. Ciota stated the two hospitals had a $4.6 million loss in 2015 and an $8 million loss in 2016, he was asked which hospital generated the loss.  Dr. Ciota response was that they had merged the two hospitals together and there was no way to tell what caused the loss or where it was generated.  What type of a CEO is he to not be drilling down on these losses as they occur.  There must be an endless supply of Mayo Apple butter.
Posted by Chamber Maid on Jul. 01 2017,6:18 pm
"Dr. Gostout has a passion for our local communities
and recognizes the mutual reliance between our community
practices and destination medical centers,”
says John Noseworthy, M.D., president and CEO, Mayo Clinic.

“She has demonstrated her skill in guiding the integration
of clinical practices and is gifted in bringing groups together

to work through tough issues and solve problems.(like getting ice cream for their meetings)

This made her an ideal choice to lead our important work within Mayo’s community practice in the Midwest.”

Posted by Expatriate on Jul. 01 2017,10:48 pm
6.5 Billion Dollar Plan to make the rural Rubes suck hind tit...

< https://www.fastcompany.com/3041355...an-city >



< View on YouTube >

Posted by Alfy Packer on Jul. 02 2017,1:29 pm
Dr. Dairy Queen Gostout has a new flavor being offered to the public.  I think she calls it "Snake Oil."  Well worth driving 30 miles for.  It is one of Dr. Noseworthy's favorites and a staple of supporters of DESTINATION MEDICAL CENTER.  Well worth the 6.5 billion dollar and a few local health care centers it will cost.
Posted by alcitizens on Jul. 08 2017,4:06 am
Nothing will change at the Hospital... The Mayo CEO that said help the patients that can pay and let the others wait for an opening is now trying to break the Union, the same Union workers that were Pickiting at Albert Lea Medical Center the same day Mayo announced a fake change..

Non-Profit my Ass... Mayo is an illegal Monopoly....

Posted by Liberal on Jul. 08 2017,8:12 am
The rumors of the hospital closing have been floating around for over a year.
Posted by alcitizens on Jul. 09 2017,1:00 pm
My connection said that 30-40 positions of the 800+ in Albert Lea will go to Austin.. It's more of a threat than a fact in a major baby boomer retirement community..

The CEO of Mayo is more about profits than he is about care.. Mayo should lose their Non-Profit status, they are a perfect picture of an illegal Monopoly..

Posted by Botto 82 on Jul. 09 2017,8:01 pm
Maybe it's time for a change of the artwork, too...
Posted by Liberal on Jul. 10 2017,7:09 am
30 or 40 positions? There's that many in ICU alone that loses their jobs Oct. 1, and Med Surg has more than ICU. You should find a better source.
Posted by Expatriate on Jul. 11 2017,6:33 am

(Alfy Packer @ Jun. 30 2017,11:40 am)
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 After Dr. Ciota stated the two hospitals had a $4.6 million loss in 2015 and an $8 million loss in 2016, he was asked which hospital generated the loss.  Dr. Ciota response was that they had merged the two hospitals together and there was no way to tell what caused the loss or where it was generated.  What type of a CEO is he to not be drilling down on these losses as they occur.

If you followed the yellow brick road to the Emerald City (aka Med City) you'd find one of those shimmering towers with floor after floor dedicated to every aspect of centralized corporate Mayo finance.  
Ciota may have a billing department, even a rudimentary accounting department but his statement here leads me to believe the data may be entered in Albert Lea or Austin but their spread sheets come from the creative accounting department in the Med City..

Dr. Bobbie G.
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65 percent of patients the organization takes care of are on Medicare or Medicaid. Medicare reimburses the hospital 33 percent on the dollar, while Medicaid reimburses 22 cents on the dollar.

This statement (if true) would be the same for every hospital operating in Minnesota, why is it most Hospitals even in smaller towns are operating in the black but if you're a Mayo satellite hospital you're in the red.
Medical billing has a sticker price similar to buying a new car, nobody pays the asking price as it's artificially set high to be negotiated to a more realistic number.
My point here, are these real losses or artificially inflated medical pricing from Mayo's creative accounting department.

Posted by Liberal on Jul. 11 2017,10:31 am
It's obvious where the local GOP stands.

< http://m.albertleatribune.com/2017...or-both >

Posted by Expatriate on Jul. 12 2017,12:42 pm
the part about the hospital is in the first half of the meeting..scroll forward to 18:20



Posted by Expatriate on Jul. 12 2017,2:00 pm
< https://www.facebook.com/groups/122756741653247/ >
Posted by alcitizens on Jul. 13 2017,12:54 pm
Jun 30, 2017

Ciota said reports that 500 people would be laid off is completely false. He said about 1,000 people work at both campuses, and he expects less than 25 jobs would shift to the Austin campus. The hope is that in the long-term, the consolidation will lead to more jobs.

< http://www.postbulletin.com/news...5a.html >

Posted by Liberal on Jul. 13 2017,1:20 pm
He's a liar, why would anyone believe anything he says?
Posted by Expatriate on Jul. 18 2017,8:54 am
< http://www.startribune.com/albert-...5067473 >
Posted by hymiebravo on Jul. 18 2017,2:59 pm
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Posted by Expatriate on Jul. 18 2017,3:46 pm
^^The numbers from the Star Trib. may be coming from Mayo.
2014 is the last year the State has separate data on Austin and Albert Lea, the spreadsheets are a little fuzzy, as in fuzzy math.

Albert Lea has 77 licensed beds of which they're only using 67 for whatever reason maybe staffing or Mayo manipulation of the numbers. 

Austin has 82 licensed beds, they utilizing 81 which would give them a statistical advantage from the get-go..

edit

There's some unethical accounting or manipulation going on here, in years past Naeve Hospital would get so full they'd have to hire outside Agency Nurses just to cover the staff, our county population hasn't changed that much.

Mayo has stated the Hospital is only 5% of their Albert Lea services, if Mayo can't continue to carry that measly 5% for the health and welfare of the community, well, they don't have our community's best interests in their long-term goals.  

As for Mayo's books, a forensic audit is beyond the scope of most locals, the Minnesota Attorney General should become involved.

At the least we have a discrimination case, Mayo has already incriminated itself in statements made against Medicare and Medicaid patients.    

< http://www.health.state.mn.us/divs/hpsc/dap/hccis/stndrdrpts.htm >

primum non nocere  ~ "first do no harm".

Posted by hymiebravo on Jul. 20 2017,7:22 pm
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Posted by alcitizens on Jul. 21 2017,9:58 am
The radical right running Mayo would love to break the Union.. Nurses will lose seniority if transferred to Austin because Austin has a different Union.. Mayo needs to go.. If they are losing money in Albert Lea and Austin, they only need to fire the CEO's that caused the over staffing and get real number crunching CEO's.. Its done that way in most businesses.. :dunce:

Inpatient will be available in the Emergency Room for big bucks.. Expensive babies will be delivered in Albert Lea and Mayo will make a killing.. Shady Mayo doesn't operate like a non-profit and should be stripped of that status..

This video says 2016 but they were out there about the same time this year wanting a contract with Mayo.. Talking to Mayo is like talking to the wall.. SEIU


< View on YouTube >

Posted by hymiebravo on Jul. 26 2017,10:23 am
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Posted by Self-Banished on Jul. 28 2017,5:18 pm
SEIU, what a bunch of clowns😝
Posted by Liberal on Jul. 29 2017,12:05 pm
< http://www.albertleatribune.com/2017...unfolds >

My wife was one of the three, and the severance pay is 1 week of pay for each year up to 12, with a minimum of 2 weeks. She was notified of 2 available part time jobs with no benefits that pay considerably less.

Posted by Liberal on Jul. 29 2017,11:47 pm
Now that the clinic administrator was let go, do you still believe only part of Albert Lea's services will move to Austin?
Posted by Expatriate on Jul. 30 2017,6:35 am
Mayo's statements/press releases about they didn't anticipate any job losses seemed fictitious from the start, now the truth is out!
We can't trust Mayo at it's word, it's not even October and they're whittling away jobs at the hospital...

Posted by seulloup on Jul. 31 2017,12:04 am

(Liberal @ Jul. 29 2017,11:47 pm)
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Now that the clinic administrator was let go, do you still believe only part of Albert Lea's services will move to Austin?

Be interested to know just which administrator you claim was let go.
Posted by alcitizens on Aug. 08 2017,4:20 pm
I heard that it is difficult to keep surgeons in Albert Lea because of the big bucks they can make in Rochester at the Mayo Clinic/St. Mary's..
Posted by binanca on Aug. 24 2017,8:29 pm
It'll be interesting to see what entities actually stay and which others they'll bail on from Mayo in order to achieve their Destination Medical Center.
200 nurses just lost their Mayo Health Solutions job.
Didn't they say they were having a hard time filling positions? I believe they said something like 100 nursing positions had gone unfilled for a year (?)
They also claim that they can't get providers to come here.
They waste/spend so much money on recruitment that if they put that money towards incentives, they would have nurses and doctors wanting to work for them.
What a terrible shame that they ever came to our town. This was not the Mayo brothers vision on how you treat patients. I used to be very proud of training and working over at Mayo-Rochester. Now it's almost embarrassing. Although it wasn't us nurses that caused this, I really DID believe that upper management meant well when they drilled into our heads that "the NEEDS of the patient comes FIRST."
What a crock that's turned out to be. Money, and only money, is what matters to Noseworthy and Company.

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Posted by Expatriate on Sep. 28 2017,6:07 am
You are likely aware of Mayo Clinic's decision to restructure and reduce hospital services in Albert Lea, MN, including the elimination of ICU and inpatient services. At the end of the day, the loss of these services will have a negative impact on Minnesotans who will face longer travel times and distances to access the healthcare they need.

Also troubling is that Mayo Clinic seems not to have genuinely engaged with and listened to the community in an effort to truly understand the impact of this decision.

If Mayo Clinic is unwilling to hold further conversations with YOU about this decision, now it the time for you to express your concerns by attending The Rally for Rural Healthcare. Join Save Our Hospital on Saturday, September 30th at 1:00pm in Albert Lea to unite with and support Albert Lea and other rural communities facing reductions in healthcare services.

What: The Rally for Rural Health Care
When: Saturday, September 30th at 1:00 p.m.
Where: Central Park in Albert Lea, MN
Why: To support rural communities facing reductions in healthcare services


The challenges that older adults and all Minnesotans in rural counties face when it comes to accessing vital healthcare services are immense. It may be Albert Lea today, but which Greater Minnesota community is next? Show your support by attending the rally Saturday!

Sincerely,
AARP Minnesota

Posted by Liberal on Sep. 28 2017,10:42 pm
Reading Al Franken's response to the hospital closing made me ill especially after seeing Al compare himself to Paul Wellstone a couple weeks ago. What a joke Al turned out to be.
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Posted by Whiskero on Oct. 09 2017,12:29 pm
Somebody was just saying to me that part of the hospital is mayo and part of it is naeve.  Is that true? and if so, what parts?
Posted by seulloup on Oct. 10 2017,1:43 am
Nothing is Naeve anymore as far as business or licensing purposes go.  My guess is someone is thinking about the Naeve Healthcare Foundation which still exists along with the Auxiliary that runs the gift shop and coffee shop and manages donations.  The original building is still occasionally referred to as Naeve hospital but in name only.
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Posted by Expatriate on Nov. 18 2017,5:59 am
< https://www.politico.com/story...-244955 >
Posted by ALAngst on Nov. 21 2017,12:06 pm
"It's the kind of place where a county commissioner turns down an interview with a reporter because he says he has to do some urgent farming."

That's nice.

Posted by Self-Banished on Nov. 21 2017,12:26 pm
^^ and who would that commissioner be?
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