Topic: Health insurance increase
started by: Self-Banished
Posted by Self-Banished on Oct. 04 2016,11:05 am
Health insurance in MN is supposed to rise by an average of 60%. It's reported the system in this state is near collapse.What happened to Buster's promise of lower rates?
< http://www.bloomberg.com/news...by-half >
< http://m.startribune.com/choices...5737781 >
Posted by hymiebravo on Oct. 04 2016,1:21 pm
Ahh the bad news addict strikes again. Yep the world is going to collapse if we don't elect a the party you like.
You just want to complain. You will hunt down and find something.
I prefer idea people.
Creative sorts.
Your game reminds me of when I watch the debates on You Tube. There is this blurry barrage of comments that go whizzing by. As if that really will impact anything.
Posted by Self-Banished on Oct. 04 2016,2:01 pm
Well I was just curious, years ago there were several on here that sang the praises of Buster care.Where you one of them?
Posted by hymiebravo on Oct. 05 2016,8:16 pm
Something had to be done. It was a start after how many decades of talking about it?
Anything of that magnitude is going to have to be changed and tweaked over time.
By creative idea people.
Not bad news addicts like yourself.
Posted by hymiebravo on Oct. 05 2016,8:19 pm
Now lets move onto to tax codes maybe? Another thing that eternally gets talked about.
Tax preparing people probably aren't interested in simplified streamlined payments systems tho.
Posted by Self-Banished on Oct. 06 2016,12:14 am
(hymiebravo @ Oct. 05 2016,8:19 pm)
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Now lets move onto to tax codes maybe?
Another thing that eternally gets talked about.
Tax preparing people probably aren't interested in simplified streamlined payments systems tho.
Another thing that eternally gets talked about.
Tax preparing people probably aren't interested in simplified streamlined payments systems tho.
This I would have to agree with, I pay an accountant more money than you see in a year for tax prep.
But this thread is about health insurance and the impending collapse of bustercare, pay attention.
This guy gets it
< https://youtu.be/qPTx5CCKsB8 >
Posted by hymiebravo on Oct. 06 2016,11:42 pm
(Self-Banished @ Oct. 06 2016,12:14 am)
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(hymiebravo @ Oct. 05 2016,8:19 pm)
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Now lets move onto to tax codes maybe?
Another thing that eternally gets talked about.
Tax preparing people probably aren't interested in simplified streamlined payments systems tho.
Another thing that eternally gets talked about.
Tax preparing people probably aren't interested in simplified streamlined payments systems tho.
This I would have to agree with, I pay an accountant more money than you see in a year for tax prep.
But this thread is about health insurance and the impending collapse of bustercare, pay attention.
This guy gets it
< https://youtu.be/qPTx5CCKsB8 >
You are not worth paying attention to. IMO
On any level.
Posted by Self-Banished on Oct. 07 2016,4:57 am
^^ hmmm, but keeps responding to my posts Kinda a bitch when you can't find the answer
Posted by irisheyes on Oct. 08 2016,4:21 pm
(Self-Banished @ Oct. 06 2016,12:14 am)
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This guy gets it
< https://youtu.be/qPTx5CCKsB8 >
< https://youtu.be/qPTx5CCKsB8 >
So you're in favor of a Medicare-for all system? That's what your clip suggested is the answer.
Posted by Self-Banished on Oct. 09 2016,3:07 am
My take is on the first part of the clip, I have small business friends that are making "house payment " size premiums thanks to bustercare. Yeah, it's affordable alright 
Billy puts it exactly right, low lifes get the bennys, small business pays.
Posted by Self-Banished on Oct. 13 2016,5:15 am
Well look at this, Gov Mumbles believes the cost of obumblercare is too high< http://conservativeangle.com/belated...amacare >
Just fricken' brilliant
Posted by Expatriate on Oct. 13 2016,6:06 am
it's not Obama care costs that are out of control, but a for profit healthcare system that's sucking the life out of our nation!
Posted by Self-Banished on Oct. 13 2016,6:31 am
^^yeah, I seem to remember you and a few others here trying to shovel that crap "obamacare will fix everything" well it hasn't, it's made it worse. Insurance companies are businesses, they're there to make a profit, not be some cow you can milk for welfare till they're bankrupt.This is the socialist way, from those who produce, to those who consume (to paraphrase Marx) screw your profit, you must bow to the will of the gov so we can continue to be voted in. If it doesn't work, throw more money at it.
So what's next, confiscating farmers crops, no business is allowed to profit more than a certain percentage, if at all?
Let it go back to the free market, strike down some regulations and it will take care of itself.
Posted by hymiebravo on Oct. 13 2016,8:33 pm
(Self-Banished @ Oct. 13 2016,6:31 am)
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^^yeah, I seem to remember you and a few others here trying to shovel that crap "obamacare will fix everything" well it hasn't, it's made it worse. Insurance companies are businesses, they're there to make a profit, not be some cow you can milk for welfare till they're bankrupt.
This is the socialist way, from those who produce, to those who consume (to paraphrase Marx) screw your profit, you must bow to the will of the gov so we can continue to be voted in. If it doesn't work, throw more money at it.
So what's next, confiscating farmers crops, no business is allowed to profit more than a certain percentage, if at all?
Let it go back to the free market, strike down some regulations and it will take care of itself.
This is the socialist way, from those who produce, to those who consume (to paraphrase Marx) screw your profit, you must bow to the will of the gov so we can continue to be voted in. If it doesn't work, throw more money at it.
So what's next, confiscating farmers crops, no business is allowed to profit more than a certain percentage, if at all?
Let it go back to the free market, strike down some regulations and it will take care of itself.
Whatever the solutions are they're not going to come from you prattling phone granny.
You're dismissed. Now run along and find some more bad news.
Or Copy paste some more pictures.
You're great at recycling internet drivel!
If that's what you want. . . Then you're definitely the go-to girl.
Outside of that a complete waste of time to read anything you type.
Posted by Self-Banished on Oct. 14 2016,4:29 am
(hymiebravo @ Oct. 13 2016,8:33 pm)
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Whatever the solutions are they're not going to come from you prattling phone granny.
You're dismissed. Now run along and find some more bad news.
Or Copy paste some more pictures.
You're great at recycling internet drivel!
If that's what you want. . . Then you're definitely the go-to girl.
Outside of that a complete waste of time to read anything you type.
You're dismissed. Now run along and find some more bad news.
Or Copy paste some more pictures.
You're great at recycling internet drivel!
If that's what you want. . . Then you're definitely the go-to girl.
Outside of that a complete waste of time to read anything you type.
I provided some questions in my post, questions I and many more would like answers to. If you're not able to come up with any hopefully others will. As far as bad news? The new sign period starts Nov 1, just a few days away and as stated in several news sources premiums are going up 50 to over 60% and if you don't pay te gov will fine you, a family of four up to 2K for the year.
I do consider this bad new for a lot of people but I suppose if one is like you and you run through life with your head up your ass, hay, who am I to interfere with your fun.
Dismissed? go f#%k yourself pal
Oops! Almost forgot your picture
Posted by Expatriate on Oct. 15 2016,6:58 am
(Self-Banished @ Oct. 13 2016,6:31 am)
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^^yeah, I seem to remember you and a few others here trying to shovel that crap "obamacare will fix everything" well it hasn't, it's made it worse. Insurance companies are businesses, they're there to make a profit, not be some cow you can milk for welfare till they're bankrupt.
This is the socialist way, from those who produce, to those who consume (to paraphrase Marx) screw your profit, you must bow to the will of the gov so we can continue to be voted in. If it doesn't work, throw more money at it.
So what's next, confiscating farmers crops, no business is allowed to profit more than a certain percentage, if at all?
Let it go back to the free market, strike down some regulations and it will take care of itself.
This is the socialist way, from those who produce, to those who consume (to paraphrase Marx) screw your profit, you must bow to the will of the gov so we can continue to be voted in. If it doesn't work, throw more money at it.
So what's next, confiscating farmers crops, no business is allowed to profit more than a certain percentage, if at all?
Let it go back to the free market, strike down some regulations and it will take care of itself.
Free Market what an idgit...
Government has provided business with private gain at public expense though Government subsidies, supports, and deficit spending with an increasingly corporate biased tax system. From farmers to casino owners, from hedge funds to bankers, from aerospace to defense contractors, from the small businessman to the big box store there prevails a welfare for the rich at the expense of the people..yet you have audacity to preach the virtues of self-reliance and the “Free Market”..
When Government steps in and puts rules to protect the people, “obamacare” insure that their premiums are spent on health-care to take care of the sick and not pocketed by the robber barons, suddenly that becomes an unsustainable burden on the private sector..
Posted by Self-Banished on Oct. 15 2016,8:25 am
^^ Free enterprise is what built this country, not gov, not some bullsh!t Union.We'll see how bad the increases are after next week, should be howls of pain.
Posted by irisheyes on Oct. 16 2016,8:02 am
(Self-Banished @ Oct. 15 2016,8:25 am)
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^^ Free enterprise is what built this country, not gov, not some bullsh!t Union.
This coming from the guy who used government grants to go to college, become a truck driver, and spend decades operating his business entirely on government property.
Yep, you're a regular Milton Friedman now that the
Posted by Self-Banished on Oct. 16 2016,8:44 am
^^about $1400 in loans that I paid back? And I pay dearly for the roads I use.But go ahead, make them all toll roads.
Try again.
Posted by Self-Banished on Oct. 24 2016,6:48 am
I had a conversation with my son this weekend, he's recently struck out on his own, free enterprise 
. The subject of health insurance came up, he was quoted $5000 for a year, wow, this kid is 27, in perfect health, doesn't smoke and he's quoted 5K?He has friends that are in the same boat, he's choosing the follow suite with them, take the penalty, in his bracket he's looking $2600 or so. If he gets hurt or sick? Quick get a bustercare policy, he can't be refused for a pre existing.
It sounds as if quite a few young ones are doing this, all things considered the fine is a bargain compared to the premium.
Posted by irisheyes on Oct. 25 2016,3:31 am
(Self-Banished @ Oct. 13 2016,6:31 am)
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I seem to remember you and a few others here trying to shovel that crap "obamacare will fix everything"
You should quote the post where someone on here said "Obamacare will fix everything". I don't remember anyone saying that, but I sure hear a lot of Republicans claim they heard it or saw it someplace.
I do remember some of us didn't like seeing our friends and relatives getting turned down for pre-existing conditions, especially young people.
SB:
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about $1400 in loans that I paid back?
No, I meant grants. Hence why I used the word "grants", those aren't paid back.
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And I pay dearly for the roads I use.
Truckers don't pay nearly enough for the roads. That's why they keep raising the cost for the rest of us at the DMV every year.
Posted by Self-Banished on Oct. 25 2016,4:22 am
(irisheyes @ Oct. 25 2016,3:31 am)
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(Self-Banished @ Oct. 13 2016,6:31 am)
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I seem to remember you and a few others here trying to shovel that crap "obamacare will fix everything"
You should quote the post where someone on here said "Obamacare will fix everything". I don't remember anyone saying that, but I sure hear a lot of Republicans claim they heard it or saw it someplace.
I do remember some of us didn't like seeing our friends and relatives getting turned down for pre-existing conditions, especially young people.
SB:
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about $1400 in loans that I paid back?
No, I meant grants. Hence why I used the word "grants", those aren't paid back.
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And I pay dearly for the roads I use.
Truckers don't pay nearly enough for the roads. That's why they keep raising the cost for the rest of us at the DMV every year.
1.Fix everything? no, how about "we have to pass it to find out what's in it", ring a bell?
2.Wow, I said loans, paid back loans, grants didn't amount to squat.
3.One truck last year paid about 12k in taxes, but if you don't think it's enough, by all means raise it. I love it when dish!ts think taxes aren't past along.
Posted by Expatriate on Oct. 25 2016,7:20 am
(Self-Banished @ Oct. 24 2016,6:48 am)
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I had a conversation with my son this weekend, he's recently struck out on his own, free enterprise . The subject of health insurance came up, he was quoted $5000 for a year, wow, this kid is 27, in perfect health, doesn't smoke and he's quoted 5K?
He has friends that are in the same boat, he's choosing the follow suite with them, take the penalty, in his bracket he's looking $2600 or so. If he gets hurt or sick? Quick get a bustercare policy, he can't be refused for a pre existing.
It sounds as if quite a few young ones are doing this, all things considered the fine is a bargain compared to the premium.
. The subject of health insurance came up, he was quoted $5000 for a year, wow, this kid is 27, in perfect health, doesn't smoke and he's quoted 5K?He has friends that are in the same boat, he's choosing the follow suite with them, take the penalty, in his bracket he's looking $2600 or so. If he gets hurt or sick? Quick get a bustercare policy, he can't be refused for a pre existing.
It sounds as if quite a few young ones are doing this, all things considered the fine is a bargain compared to the premium.
Well that's part of what's wrong with ACA, sick people sign up, those that are healthy avoid paying premiums causing the cost of said premiums to increase..on the flip-side we see gouging by the pharmaceutical and healthcare robber barons.
Your son may find himself in a bind, I'm no expert on the ACA but since he's missed his open enrollment by choice he might have blew his chance at getting picked up immediately should he have medical issues...he may have to wait for the next enrollment dates..
Not to worry, the Military provides medical coverage to all inductees, The chicken hawk Trump plans to field an Army, has threatened to fire the top Generals says he knows more about the Military, and replace those Generals with political yes men who have never held field commands...I'm sure Ted Nugent will be instantly promoted to Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff...
I seriously doubt we'll have anyone under the age of 30 left alive...
here's your hero the chicken hawk playing Army, I wonder if one of those phony little ribbons on his chest is for grabbing pussies..
Posted by Self-Banished on Oct. 25 2016,8:51 am
^^ this went from healthcare premiums going through the roof to Trump fielding an army?
Posted by hymiebravo on Oct. 26 2016,8:17 pm
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I had a conversation with my son this weekend, he's recently struck out on his own, free enterprise . The subject of health insurance came up, he was quoted $5000 for a year, wow, this kid is 27, in perfect health, doesn't smoke and he's quoted 5K?
. The subject of health insurance came up, he was quoted $5000 for a year, wow, this kid is 27, in perfect health, doesn't smoke and he's quoted 5K?Tell him to latch on to his wife's union job benefits like you did.
Posted by Self-Banished on Oct. 27 2016,4:29 am
(hymiebravo @ Oct. 26 2016,8:17 pm)
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I had a conversation with my son this weekend, he's recently struck out on his own, free enterprise . The subject of health insurance came up, he was quoted $5000 for a year, wow, this kid is 27, in perfect health, doesn't smoke and he's quoted 5K?
. The subject of health insurance came up, he was quoted $5000 for a year, wow, this kid is 27, in perfect health, doesn't smoke and he's quoted 5K?Tell him to latch on to his wife's union job benefits like you did.
Mrs. SB's not union, far too much integrity. Before she had benefits I wrote the check for healthcare.
What happened to "ignore "? I know, I am adorable.
Posted by Self-Banished on Nov. 03 2016,2:36 pm
< http://kstp.com/news...4307642 >Yep, here we go again.
Posted by Common Citizen on Nov. 04 2016,8:58 pm
Family of 6. Two in college and two in grade school. They adopted two kids from a third world country and this is the kick in the nuts they get. Bro: Do you know how much my health insurance premiums are increasing by next year?
Me: i know what's coming No. What?
Bro: From $750 to $1700 per month.
Bro: Guess who I'm voting for!?!
Now the lobs here can try and reason all you want but you're a fool to ever try and justify this health care insurance scam. I wouldn't expect less from those supporting a candidate who has committed worse crimes than Nixon. nuff said
Posted by Self-Banished on Nov. 05 2016,4:23 am
20K a year?
Posted by Glad I Left on Nov. 07 2016,8:44 am
Just got our annual renewal for my corporate insurance for next year. We've been Aetna for medicial for about 5 years now and UnitedHealth for dental.Aetna initial proposal was they wanted a 40% increase. Our company went back and asked them for 20% they came back at 25%. We informed them that the national average was only 12-15% increase in premiums so we countered with 10%. In the end we settled on a 9% increase. Which thankfully my company said they'd pay the difference this year and not pass on the increase.
As for dental... United wanted to do 300% increase. We told them to go pound sand and swtiched our dental over to Aetna as well and they matched last years dental premiums so no change there. This is the first year in about 7 that I haven't seen my premiums go up. I will take that, although I am still shelling out about 1500/month for family medical/dental and eye care. (this includes my STD/LTD and some small life insurance policies.)