Topic: smoking ban
started by: twingroves
Posted by twingroves on Apr. 15 2015,7:18 pm
if they ban smoking in parks what next I cant smoke in my back yard because the guy next door don't smoke 
Posted by Botto 82 on Apr. 15 2015,7:53 pm
(twingroves @ Apr. 15 2015,7:18 pm)
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if they ban smoking in parks what next I cant smoke in my back yard because the guy next door don't smoke
You may have noticed all the fossil fuel burning devices they use to maintain said parks. I'm sure you're free to inhale all the toxic crap those things produce.
In other words, outdoor smoking bans are moronic things thought up by morons, ones that think they're somehow doing something good for their moronic kids, who will grow up to be morons, too.
Posted by stardust14 on Apr. 15 2015,11:19 pm
Soak the parks with pesticides/herbicides next to toxic lakes while munching on Doritos and waving a sign "No Smoking". AL evangelists.
Posted by Counterfeit Fake on Apr. 16 2015,6:55 am
I'm perfectly okay with them banning smoking in public parks. One smokers stinks up a huge area and too many just use the world as their garbage dump and throw their cigs everywhere. My parents smoked and I never noticed it. Now that I haven't been around any smokers for a few years I can smell the stuff from cars that drive by and realize just how nasty it is.Next thing I would like them to ban is dogs in the parks if people can't be responsible and pick up their dogs crap.
Posted by Botto 82 on Apr. 16 2015,7:22 am
I knew someone would roll out the smoking litter argument, sooner or later. This is a really good time of the year to go out and look at what comprises the bulk of park litter. If that's the primary concern, you'd better add fast food, soft drinks and beer to the list.
Posted by This is my real name on Apr. 16 2015,7:34 am
(Botto 82 @ Apr. 16 2015,7:22 am)
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I knew someone would roll out the smoking litter argument, sooner or later. This is a really good time of the year to go out and look at what comprises the bulk of park litter. If that's the primary concern, you'd better add fast food, soft drinks and beer to the list.
We could combat cigarette butt litter by making the butts biodegradable, yet still able to withstand the heat. I used to smoke about 15 years ago and thought this was a good idea even then.
If Minnesota put a deposit on soft drinks, you wouldn't see as many of those, either. Some people would still be pricks and toss their can or bottle, but pickers would come and get them.
I don't have a solution for fast food litter.
That said, I agree that outdoor smoking bans are ridiculous feel-good measures that give the impression someone is "doing something about it."
Posted by Expatriate on Apr. 16 2015,8:06 am
It’s an obnoxious habit, you people stink, you should be confined to smoking rooms with no ventilation so you can enjoy your nicotine buzz to it’s max!Go wheeze in your own little cubicals idiots!
Posted by Glad I Left on Apr. 16 2015,8:32 am
(This is my real name @ Apr. 16 2015,7:34 am)
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(Botto 82 @ Apr. 16 2015,7:22 am)
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I knew someone would roll out the smoking litter argument, sooner or later. This is a really good time of the year to go out and look at what comprises the bulk of park litter. If that's the primary concern, you'd better add fast food, soft drinks and beer to the list.
We could combat cigarette butt litter by making the butts biodegradable, yet still able to withstand the heat. I used to smoke about 15 years ago and thought this was a good idea even then.
If Minnesota put a deposit on soft drinks, you wouldn't see as many of those, either. Some people would still be pricks and toss their can or bottle, but pickers would come and get them.
I don't have a solution for fast food litter.
That said, I agree that outdoor smoking bans are ridiculous feel-good measures that give the impression someone is "doing something about it."
Interesting about the deposit idea, I've always wondered how effective it was...
Then I found this..
< Redemtion percentage of deposit drinks >
Posted by Botto 82 on Apr. 16 2015,8:46 am
Remember when the word "disposable" was a selling point? It seemed so much better than "returnable," which implied inconvenience. Yeah. Those chickens have come home to roost.The other day while biking, I saw two used disposable diapers laying next to the road. Who the fùck does that?
Posted by MADDOG on Apr. 16 2015,10:30 am
I think you answered your own question earlier.QUOTE
In other words, outdoor smoking bans are moronic things thought up by morons, ones that think they're somehow doing something good for their moronic kids, who will grow up to be morons, too.
Posted by This is my real name on Apr. 16 2015,11:45 am
(Botto 82 @ Apr. 16 2015,8:46 am)
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Remember when the word "disposable" was a selling point? It seemed so much better than "returnable," which implied inconvenience. Yeah. Those chickens have come home to roost.
The other day while biking, I saw two used disposable diapers laying next to the road. Who the fùck does that?
The other day while biking, I saw two used disposable diapers laying next to the road. Who the fùck does that?
I've seen them at the Blazing Star Trail.
I guess they're also common enough in Walmart parking lots to have made it onto the Walmart Bingo card.
Posted by grassman on Apr. 16 2015,12:35 pm
I seen on the news lastnight, a smoker threw his cigarette out the window of his car. It came back in and started his car on fire. He went off the road and started a grass fire. I wish that would happen to all of them that throw them out their window!!except he starting of the grass fire of coarse. 
Posted by alcitizens on Apr. 16 2015,9:56 pm
Unlike the suspect or quasi-suspect classifications of race, alienage, nationalorigin, or gender, we conclude that smokers do not share some immutable
characteristic beyond their control and they do not require special protection by
the courts because of vast discrimination against smokers or their political
powerlessness.
< http://cehdclass.gmu.edu/jkozlows/lawarts/03MAR13.pdf >
Discrimination against cigarette smokers is legal as long as they were not born with a cigarette, cigar or a tobacco pipe in their mouth..
This woman was born with these so you can't discriminate against her choice of swimming apparel..
Posted by Blaze on Apr. 18 2015,6:20 pm
When I first heard that the City Council was going to vote on banning cigarette smoking outside, I thought it was a joke. But, I guess not. I hope, if you ban smoking, you will also ban mosquito spray that people tend to spray all over, not just on themselves. and perfume (which I am allergic to). Now that medical marijuana is legal, will we be able to smoke that outside?
Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 19 2015,12:39 am
(Expatriate @ Apr. 16 2015,8:06 am)
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It’s an obnoxious habit, you people stink, you should be confined to smoking rooms with no ventilation so you can enjoy your nicotine buzz to it’s max!
Go wheeze in your own little cubicals idiots!
Go wheeze in your own little cubicals idiots!
Wow, aren't you just a ray of sunshine.
Posted by Expatriate on Apr. 19 2015,6:46 am
^^^COPD, Emphysema are just a couple side effects of smoking, not to mention lung cancer! Once you’ve puffed your way into disease you’re an expense for those of US who are smart enough to have maintained our health by clean living.
I have no interest in breathing your second hand smoke or anyone else’s, like I said, it’s an obnoxious nasty habit that invades my space.
I’m no tree hugger, I’ve spent most of my life in coal burning Power Plants filled with asbestos, my lungs are in superb condition but my coworker’s who smoked are all victims of emphysema/cancer.
Your champion Ayn Rand the polemical author who defends political conservatism spent her life puffing in a cloud of obnoxious tobacco smoke. She denounced the medical wisdom of the day on smoking as hogwash only to develop lung cancer, she quickly enrolled in Medicare and we paid the bill for her stupidity!
Posted by Common Citizen on Apr. 19 2015,8:07 am
(Expatriate @ Apr. 19 2015,6:46 am)
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Once you’ve puffed your way into disease you’re an expense for those of US who are smart enough to have maintained our health by clean living
Your champion Ayn Rand the polemical author who defends political conservatism spent her life puffing in a cloud of obnoxious tobacco smoke. She denounced the medical wisdom of the day on smoking as hogwash only to develop lung cancer, she quickly enrolled in Medicare and we paid the bill for her stupidity!
Your champion Ayn Rand the polemical author who defends political conservatism spent her life puffing in a cloud of obnoxious tobacco smoke. She denounced the medical wisdom of the day on smoking as hogwash only to develop lung cancer, she quickly enrolled in Medicare and we paid the bill for her stupidity!
Huh? You don't want your hard earned money going to others that make poor choices? You're starting to sound like a conservative.
I bet Obamacare, social security, and all the other welfare programs piss you off.
Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 19 2015,8:44 am
(Common Citizen @ Apr. 19 2015,8:07 am)
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(Expatriate @ Apr. 19 2015,6:46 am)
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Once you’ve puffed your way into disease you’re an expense for those of US who are smart enough to have maintained our health by clean living
Your champion Ayn Rand the polemical author who defends political conservatism spent her life puffing in a cloud of obnoxious tobacco smoke. She denounced the medical wisdom of the day on smoking as hogwash only to develop lung cancer, she quickly enrolled in Medicare and we paid the bill for her stupidity!
Your champion Ayn Rand the polemical author who defends political conservatism spent her life puffing in a cloud of obnoxious tobacco smoke. She denounced the medical wisdom of the day on smoking as hogwash only to develop lung cancer, she quickly enrolled in Medicare and we paid the bill for her stupidity!
Huh? You don't want your hard earned money going to others that make poor choices? You're starting to sound like a conservative.
I bet Obamacare, social security, and all the other welfare programs piss you off.
Mighty nice burn
The rants that Expat spews might make him want to investigate something like this further.
< http://www.fasebj.org/content/4/9/2587.short >
Posted by Expatriate on Apr. 19 2015,9:58 am
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Mighty nice burn
There’s far less in the way of pollutants coming form my stacks than yours, take another deep breath of that
diesel, it’s good for you!
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Huh? You don't want your hard earned money going to others that make poor choices? You're starting to sound like a conservative.
As I’ve told you before I’m a liberal conservative, there are no conservatives in the republican party only corporate
owned representatives who’s true interest represent few citizens, the rest of you cuckoos fall under the guns, god and gays fringe!(teabaggers)
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I bet Obamacare, social security, and all the other welfare programs piss you off.
As for ACA it’s a private insurance company mandate, I would have went for the one payer system, until we can control
excessive costs, this starts with the pharmaceutical industry’s over priced drugs, the medical industry’s service the insurance companies excessive premiums! And those executives of these three entities who justify their multimillion dollar compensation at the expense of our healthcare!
Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 19 2015,10:43 am
^^there's no such animal as a liberal conservative 
Posted by Botto 82 on Apr. 19 2015,11:03 am
So the Democrat pendulum is swinging the other way again? I mean, the Fourteenth Amendment was bad news for Democrats back in the day, not Republicans. Eh, but what does it matter? Both parties have sold out to the robber barons and international bankers, all while dangling that "you could be rich someday, too" carrot in front of the self-loathing masses. (That's never going to happen, but dolts watch TV and buy into it anyway.)
We have to work even harder and for less pay than our parents. This isn't a "suck it up, buttercup" moment. It's a "fùck you, I want my country back" moment. And while we're busy arguing over what some crooked candidate thinks about gay marriage, the crooks are running off with our savings.
So I really don't give a rip about political labels anymore, because trotting out one of those tired monikers only says, "I'm too lazy and stupid to change things, and besides, there's too much money to be made leaving things as they are, and now we should diss on the poor a little more."
Posted by Expatriate on Apr. 19 2015,12:15 pm
While I agree big money and corporations hold too much power, I still see a huge difference in who the two parties represent! Posted by Blaze on Apr. 19 2015,12:33 pm
I agree that sitting in a restaurant next to a table of smokers is not pleasant. And I used to be a smoker. But, smoking outside in the fresh air is totally different. Although, if I owned a restaurant or a bar, and wanted to allow smoking, that would be up to me. If people chose not to patronize it, that would be my problem. Someway as working there. If a person chose not to work where smoking was allowed, no one is forcing them to work there.
We are losing more and more the right to make our own choices.
Posted by twingroves on Apr. 19 2015,2:23 pm
right on the more you whine the more you get your way heres to the whiners 
Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 19 2015,2:37 pm
(Expatriate @ Apr. 19 2015,12:15 pm)
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While I agree big money and corporations hold too much power, I still see a huge difference in who the two parties represent!
Yeah, unhuh, this is just another common criminal.
< http://www.ijreview.com/2015...e-taxes >
Posted by Expatriate on Apr. 19 2015,3:39 pm
The truth hurts doesn't it Dumbo, your party has a platform full of cuckoo ideas!
Posted by Expatriate on Apr. 19 2015,6:27 pm
So Dumbo you've been shot down Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 19 2015,7:57 pm
(Expatriate @ Apr. 19 2015,3:39 pm)
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The truth hurts doesn't it Dumbo, your party has a platform full of cuckoo ideas!
My party??
I didn't know I had one
Have you been tapping into Alky's Black Velvet again?
And if you'll notice, Perry is one of the screaming libs like you
I'm betting it sucks big time to be as clueless as you.
Posted by Expatriate on Apr. 20 2015,6:18 am
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My party??
I didn't know I had one
I didn't know I had one
I'm not a Republican
Dumbo is in denial!
Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 20 2015,8:06 am
(Expatriate @ Apr. 20 2015,6:18 am)
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My party??
I didn't know I had one
I didn't know I had one
I'm not a Republican
Dumbo is in denial!Well excuse me, I didn't know you were assigning political affiliations
How did this thread go from smoking bans to this?
Posted by MADDOG on Apr. 20 2015,9:24 am
(Self-Banished @ Apr. 20 2015,8:06 am)
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How did this thread go from smoking bans to this?
It's the liberal conservatism in him.
Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 20 2015,9:39 am
^^
Posted by twingroves on May 12 2015,2:30 pm
well I hope all you WHINNY non smoking people are happy now they are going to ban smoking in all the parks
Posted by Botto 82 on May 12 2015,4:09 pm
Now, if they'd just ban hipster longboarders...
Posted by grassman on May 13 2015,7:17 am
As Eddy Albert said, "Fresh air"!
Posted by MADDOG on May 13 2015,10:21 am
(grassman @ May 13 2015,7:17 am)
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As Eddy Albert said, "Fresh air"!
Coming from a guy who burns buffalo dung for heat.
Posted by grassman on May 13 2015,10:43 am
Burn one buffalo chip... 
Seriously, I used to smoke. I thought they smelled good. They have done something to the tobacco of today that makes it smell toxic.
Posted by Self-Banished on May 13 2015,11:48 am
(grassman @ May 13 2015,10:43 am)
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Burn one buffalo chip...
Seriously, I used to smoke. I thought they smelled good. They have done something to the tobacco of today that makes it smell toxic.
Seriously, I used to smoke. I thought they smelled good. They have done something to the tobacco of today that makes it smell toxic.
Isn't it amazing how crappy they smell after you quit??