Topic: Net Neutrality
started by: Common Citizen
Posted by Common Citizen on Feb. 25 2015,1:16 pm
Do we really need more change? Do we really need another government solution to problem that doesn't exist? Could someone please lay out the case for the FCC to regulate the Internet like a utility?QUOTE
The FCC is scheduled to vote Thursday, February 26 on Wheeler's plan.
Pai explains his opposition to Title II reclassifcation to Reason's Nick Gillespie. Citing independent studies of American competitiveness and booming investment in telecommunications infrastructure compared to Europe, Pai argues that consumers are thriving and the market is doing its job.
Regulating the internet like a utility company, says Pai, will threaten the kind of innovation we've taken for granted over the past 20 years. "Do you trust the federal government to make the Internet ecosystem more vibrant than it is today?" Pai asks. "Can you think of any regulated utility like the electric company or water company that is as innovative as the Internet?"
Pai explains his opposition to Title II reclassifcation to Reason's Nick Gillespie. Citing independent studies of American competitiveness and booming investment in telecommunications infrastructure compared to Europe, Pai argues that consumers are thriving and the market is doing its job.
Regulating the internet like a utility company, says Pai, will threaten the kind of innovation we've taken for granted over the past 20 years. "Do you trust the federal government to make the Internet ecosystem more vibrant than it is today?" Pai asks. "Can you think of any regulated utility like the electric company or water company that is as innovative as the Internet?"
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Posted by Self-Banished on Feb. 25 2015,1:25 pm
I've been following this for awhile, looks like we get it, like it or not😢
Posted by Liberal on Feb. 25 2015,3:16 pm
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Posted by Common Citizen on Feb. 25 2015,4:24 pm
Interesting. They don't give real life stories of how people are currently being harmed. Has anyone here experienced anything negative?
Posted by nzeroesc on Feb. 25 2015,4:58 pm
Easy. Because ISPs are not considered a utility, they do not need to provide right of way access to infrastructure. Thats why whatever company services an area holds a near complete monopoly over the service area for whatever technology they use (Charter for cable, Centurylink for phone). Smaller companies like WCTA that are trying to expand have no right to use existing poles, vaults, cable bores or whatever, and must build from the ground up each and every time, but the catch is, if Charter got there first and put in poles, you can't easily pound in your own. You are harmed by the lack of choice, price controls due to lack of competition, and your provider knows it, and bandwidth and speed caps due to lack of regulation. You are at the mercy of your provider instead of them existing to serve your needs.
Posted by Self-Banished on Feb. 25 2015,6:23 pm
Why do I get the feeling that...Service will suffer
I'll have to pay more
The gov. Will appoint some "internet czar" who will just screw up everything.
Hmmm
Posted by Liberal on Feb. 25 2015,7:07 pm
What part of what he posted makes you think price will go up?
Posted by Liberal on Feb. 25 2015,10:45 pm
(Common Citizen @ Feb. 25 2015,4:24 pm)
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Interesting. They don't give real life stories of how people are currently being harmed.
Has anyone here experienced anything negative?
Has anyone here experienced anything negative?
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Posted by Self-Banished on Feb. 25 2015,11:52 pm
(Liberal @ Feb. 25 2015,7:07 pm)
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What part of what he posted makes you think price will go up?
The gov. getting involved.
Posted by nzeroesc on Feb. 26 2015,7:42 am
As opposed to the price for Charter going up every few months with artificial fees and taxes, or decreasingly short promotional periods that existing customers need to threaten a virgin sacrifice to get, only to find repeated billing errors? Or you have the option to sign up for CenturyLink DSL and go through the same song and dance for a different service with its own limitations. Of course there is always satellite "broadband" which is really only an option if you don't have any other options. It isn't very many peoples first choice, and still you suffer from rate increases, short promotional periods and mystery fees.
Please tell me how you aren't getting bent over and screwed already. Are you threatening to cancel? I think most ISPs have learned in this day and age a larger and larger majority of people simply can't function without an internet connection, whether it be for business or pleasure.
Posted by Self-Banished on Feb. 26 2015,8:34 am
So what you're saying is that Internet is a right?
Posted by nzeroesc on Feb. 26 2015,12:33 pm
I firmly believe in todays modern society, that it should indeed be treated in the same vein as any other consumable utility that is more or less necessary to live in a modern civilized society (eg: A utility) Not necessarily a right to have it, but a right to access it fairly and freely. THe underlying problem with this is that the core laws that allow the current situation to happen are because the laws were written 80 years ago when phones were just getting to be more commonplace by the 1934 Telecommunications Act. I am sure no one at the time even conceived the amount of depth and breadth of our connected lives at that point in time.
Why can the power company put up poles, the phone company come along and string wire, the cable company come along and string coax, and now any new Internet providers are locked out because the phone company is protected as a teleco, and the cable company is protected for providing TV, but both compete for the unregulated and unprotected Internet access. Since Internet is not a utility by definition yet, none of the other three need to allow a new company access to their right-of-way.
Posted by Liberal on Feb. 26 2015,4:23 pm
To get the right wing kooks to understand you'll have to have Rush Limbaugh, or Billo the clown explain it to them
Posted by Self-Banished on Feb. 26 2015,4:46 pm
^^^I see, that's why they kept 322 pages secret so us conservatives wouldn't get scared 
Posted by Liberal on Feb. 27 2015,2:12 pm
Secret? Try google.