Topic: More crossing
started by: Self-Banished
Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 09 2014,1:40 pm
< http://www.cnn.com/2014...n-moved >More and more criminal immigrants or in this case children crossing into our country without parents. Oh to be sure mummy and dada aren't far behind waiting for their chance.
Posted by pepi-lapew on Jun. 10 2014,10:42 am
I think they should bring 105&188 howitzers down there in the desert and let the army use it for a artillery range! That would stop the crossings?
Posted by twingroves on Jun. 10 2014,1:17 pm
just let the ranchers that live there do their thing 
Posted by Common Citizen on Jun. 10 2014,9:43 pm
Dereliction of duty by our POTUS. Unless he has adequately prepared our educational systems, health care systems, and CDC (among other things), for this onslaught of refugees (which he has not), he has an obligation and a duty to the legal citizens of this country to enforce our immigration laws.I realize that dereliction of duty is a crime that falls under the UCMJ but you get my drift.
...nuff said.
Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 11 2014,4:33 am
^^^pssst, he got a buddy in the legal department! keep it quiet 
Posted by grassman on Jun. 11 2014,6:39 am
(Common Citizen @ Jun. 10 2014,9:43 pm)
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Dereliction of duty by our POTUS. Unless he has adequately prepared our educational systems, health care systems, and CDC (among other things), for this onslaught of refugees (which he has not), he has an obligation and a duty to the legal citizens of this country to enforce our immigration laws.
I realize that dereliction of duty is a crime that falls under the UCMJ but you get my drift.
...nuff said.
I realize that dereliction of duty is a crime that falls under the UCMJ but you get my drift.
...nuff said.
You must be talking about Bush, right? Obama has deported way more illegals than Bush ever did.
Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 11 2014,7:09 am
^^^ good! Then he'll have no problem sending the current batch of brats back to the sh!t hole they came from.
Posted by pepi-lapew on Jun. 11 2014,7:35 am
He wont, the DEMARATS need the votes in a few years. All they say is keep the votes coming across the border. We will shaft the citizens of this great nation for all the votes we can get in later years.
Posted by irisheyes on Jun. 11 2014,10:00 am
Pepi and twingroves are talking about gunning them down. I suppose your ancestors were native Americans. 
(Common Citizen @ Jun. 10 2014,9:43 pm)
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Dereliction of duty by our POTUS.
You blame Obama, I'm shocked.
Democrats have pushed for immigration reform, not surprisingly, the response from Republicans has been "no".
Pepi
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All they say is keep the votes coming across the border.
They can't vote.
Posted by pepi-lapew on Jun. 11 2014,11:21 am
Thats why the DEMARATS wont tighten up absentee ballot voting. It should be done away with all togather. Ive voted since 1962 and never used absentee vote once. Not even when in the military.
Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 11 2014,12:01 pm
(irisheyes @ Jun. 11 2014,10:00 am)
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Democrats have pushed for immigration reform, not surprisingly, the response from Republicans has been "no".
Too many words,
I think the word you're looking for is amnesty.
Posted by MADDOG on Jun. 11 2014,12:54 pm
(grassman @ Jun. 11 2014,6:39 am)
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(Common Citizen @ Jun. 10 2014,9:43 pm)
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Dereliction of duty by our POTUS. Unless he has adequately prepared our educational systems, health care systems, and CDC (among other things), for this onslaught of refugees (which he has not), he has an obligation and a duty to the legal citizens of this country to enforce our immigration laws.
I realize that dereliction of duty is a crime that falls under the UCMJ but you get my drift.
...nuff said.
I realize that dereliction of duty is a crime that falls under the UCMJ but you get my drift.
...nuff said.
You must be talking about Bush, right? Obama has deported way more illegals than Bush ever did.
G-man, you're going to have to define "deport. Are you using the Bambino math method or the way all other administrations classified deportation?
Posted by grassman on Jun. 11 2014,7:00 pm
Maddog, you have your mind made up before you are even presented anything. So here take it for what it is worth. 
Obama is deporting immigrants faster than Bush. Republicans don’t think that’s enough.
By Suzy Khimm August 29, 2012
The GOP is toughening its stance on immigration in its 2012 party platform. But that's partly in response to Obama's own hawkish stance on immigration enforcement. In fact, both parties are now pushing different programs with the same goal: to increase enforcement of laws that target illegal immigration on the local level.
As of July, Obama deported 1.4 million illegal immigrants since the beginning of his administration — that's 1.5 times more immigrants on average than Bush deported every month, according to official numbers from the Department of Homeland Security*. But that's only part of Obama's deportation strategy: The administration's stated goal is to prioritize the deportation of criminal, dangerous illegal immigrants. And it's promised to make a new program called Secure Communities mandatory by 2013, which would force local law enforcement to share fingerprints of those arrested with the Department of Homeland Security, which has immigration records, through the FBI.
The GOP platform, however, accuses the Obama administration of having "undermined the rule of law at every turn" and "failed to enforce the legal means for workers or employers who want to operate within the law," according to a draft version that Politico obtained. The platform doubles down on Obama's own promise to prioritize the deportation of immigrants with a criminal history. The GOP is calling to "expedite expulsion of criminal aliens" — and wants to expand the list of deportable offenses to include "gang membership," though it's unclear how that would be defined.
Moreover, Republicans want to revive a program called 287(g). Under this program, local communities can opt to have law enforcement officials trained by federal agents to arrest and detain suspects because of immigration status. The program peaked under Bush, but Obama has scaled it back with the intention of phasing it out altogether. The Obama administration revoked part of its 287(g) agreements with Arizona in June, citing the Justice Department's lawsuit allegations of racial profiling and civil rights abuses by local law enforcement, including Maricopa County's infamous Sheriff Joe Arpaio.
There is also evidence that 287(g) hasn't been meeting the Obama administration's stated goal of targeting dangerous, criminal immigrants for deportation: According to a study from the independent Migration Policy Institute, half of those detained under 287(g) were people who had committed misdemeanors or traffic offenses. What's more, MPI found that "state and local officials operate 287(g) programs according to priorities shaped largely by political pressures." That's another reason why the Obama administration wants to transition to Secure Communities, which would shift more enforcement authority to the federal government. "It takes those decisions out of the hands of local police officers," says Mary Giovagnoli, director of the Immigration Policy Center.
So both parties want local law enforcement to participate vigorously in immigration enforcement. The major difference is that Republicans want to give more power and discretion to local law enforcement to enforce immigration laws, while Obama wants local authorities to use a federal biometric database to inform decisions about immigration enforcement.
Pro-immigration and civil liberties advocates aren't thrilled with either option: They argue that Secure Communities is also prone to abuse. A October 2011 report from UC-Berkeley law school points out that a much higher number of those arrested through the program are placed in federal detention than usual, for instance. Others worry that Secure Communities program could still encourage racial profiling if local law enforcement knows that those arrested will be screened for their immigration status. "It sounds great on paper, but in practice, a lot of people are picked up and arrested who might not be otherwise," says Giovagnoli.
To be sure, the GOP platform includes a host of other immigration measures that go well beyond what Obama and the Democrats support — prohibiting in-state tuition for college students who are undocumented, opposing amnesty of any kind, and reiterating the GOP's 2008 platform proposal to force employers to check their workers' immigration status through E-Verify.
But on local immigration enforcement, Obama and Republicans are effectively competing to see whose policies are tougher.
*Clarification: Bush deported 2 million immigrants over the course of two terms. That's more than the 1.4 million that Obama has deported to date during his first term. But Obama is deporting them in higher numbers every month than Bush did—1.5 times more. Sorry for any earlier confusion.
The Obama administration has also used what a 2010 Post story deemed to be "unusual methods" to increase deportations, including the extension of a repatriation program that counted for 6,500 deportations to Mexico in 2010, although it denies that it was "cooking the books" to raise its numbers. The House Judiciary Committee also says it's unearthed new evidence that the White House was inflating its deportation numbers. I've contacted the White House and outside experts to clarify, and I'll likely write a separate post on the issue when I hear back.
Posted by Common Citizen on Jun. 11 2014,7:33 pm
(grassman @ Jun. 11 2014,6:39 am)
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(Common Citizen @ Jun. 10 2014,9:43 pm)
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Dereliction of duty by our POTUS. Unless he has adequately prepared our educational systems, health care systems, and CDC (among other things), for this onslaught of refugees (which he has not), he has an obligation and a duty to the legal citizens of this country to enforce our immigration laws.
I realize that dereliction of duty is a crime that falls under the UCMJ but you get my drift.
...nuff said.
I realize that dereliction of duty is a crime that falls under the UCMJ but you get my drift.
...nuff said.
You must be talking about Bush, right? Obama has deported way more illegals than Bush ever did.
What year are we in? Who is in charge? I realize Obummer has you fooled into thinking he never knows what is going on in his own administration but using the Blame Bush makes know sense half way through Obama's second term.
Besides, I'm talking about the influx of illegals that are flowing across now, today. I'm certainly not referring to deportations unless you're referring to the five terrorist he sent home last week.
I know, I know...what difference does it make.
Posted by Common Citizen on Jun. 11 2014,7:36 pm
(grassman @ Jun. 11 2014,7:00 pm)
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Maddog, you have your mind made up before you are even presented anything. So here take it for what it is worth.
Obama is deporting immigrants faster than Bush. Republicans don’t think that’s enough.
By Suzy Khimm August 29, 2012
The GOP is toughening its stance on immigration in its 2012 party platform. But that's partly in response to Obama's own hawkish stance on immigration enforcement. In fact, both parties are now pushing different programs with the same goal: to increase enforcement of laws that target illegal immigration on the local level.
As of July, Obama deported 1.4 million illegal immigrants since the beginning of his administration — that's 1.5 times more immigrants on average than Bush deported every month, according to official numbers from the Department of Homeland Security*. But that's only part of Obama's deportation strategy: The administration's stated goal is to prioritize the deportation of criminal, dangerous illegal immigrants. And it's promised to make a new program called Secure Communities mandatory by 2013, which would force local law enforcement to share fingerprints of those arrested with the Department of Homeland Security, which has immigration records, through the FBI.
The GOP platform, however, accuses the Obama administration of having "undermined the rule of law at every turn" and "failed to enforce the legal means for workers or employers who want to operate within the law," according to a draft version that Politico obtained. The platform doubles down on Obama's own promise to prioritize the deportation of immigrants with a criminal history. The GOP is calling to "expedite expulsion of criminal aliens" — and wants to expand the list of deportable offenses to include "gang membership," though it's unclear how that would be defined.
Moreover, Republicans want to revive a program called 287(g). Under this program, local communities can opt to have law enforcement officials trained by federal agents to arrest and detain suspects because of immigration status. The program peaked under Bush, but Obama has scaled it back with the intention of phasing it out altogether. The Obama administration revoked part of its 287(g) agreements with Arizona in June, citing the Justice Department's lawsuit allegations of racial profiling and civil rights abuses by local law enforcement, including Maricopa County's infamous Sheriff Joe Arpaio.
There is also evidence that 287(g) hasn't been meeting the Obama administration's stated goal of targeting dangerous, criminal immigrants for deportation: According to a study from the independent Migration Policy Institute, half of those detained under 287(g) were people who had committed misdemeanors or traffic offenses. What's more, MPI found that "state and local officials operate 287(g) programs according to priorities shaped largely by political pressures." That's another reason why the Obama administration wants to transition to Secure Communities, which would shift more enforcement authority to the federal government. "It takes those decisions out of the hands of local police officers," says Mary Giovagnoli, director of the Immigration Policy Center.
So both parties want local law enforcement to participate vigorously in immigration enforcement. The major difference is that Republicans want to give more power and discretion to local law enforcement to enforce immigration laws, while Obama wants local authorities to use a federal biometric database to inform decisions about immigration enforcement.
Pro-immigration and civil liberties advocates aren't thrilled with either option: They argue that Secure Communities is also prone to abuse. A October 2011 report from UC-Berkeley law school points out that a much higher number of those arrested through the program are placed in federal detention than usual, for instance. Others worry that Secure Communities program could still encourage racial profiling if local law enforcement knows that those arrested will be screened for their immigration status. "It sounds great on paper, but in practice, a lot of people are picked up and arrested who might not be otherwise," says Giovagnoli.
To be sure, the GOP platform includes a host of other immigration measures that go well beyond what Obama and the Democrats support — prohibiting in-state tuition for college students who are undocumented, opposing amnesty of any kind, and reiterating the GOP's 2008 platform proposal to force employers to check their workers' immigration status through E-Verify.
But on local immigration enforcement, Obama and Republicans are effectively competing to see whose policies are tougher.
*Clarification: Bush deported 2 million immigrants over the course of two terms. That's more than the 1.4 million that Obama has deported to date during his first term. But Obama is deporting them in higher numbers every month than Bush did—1.5 times more. Sorry for any earlier confusion.
The Obama administration has also used what a 2010 Post story deemed to be "unusual methods" to increase deportations, including the extension of a repatriation program that counted for 6,500 deportations to Mexico in 2010, although it denies that it was "cooking the books" to raise its numbers. The House Judiciary Committee also says it's unearthed new evidence that the White House was inflating its deportation numbers. I've contacted the White House and outside experts to clarify, and I'll likely write a separate post on the issue when I hear back.
Obama is deporting immigrants faster than Bush. Republicans don’t think that’s enough.
By Suzy Khimm August 29, 2012
The GOP is toughening its stance on immigration in its 2012 party platform. But that's partly in response to Obama's own hawkish stance on immigration enforcement. In fact, both parties are now pushing different programs with the same goal: to increase enforcement of laws that target illegal immigration on the local level.
As of July, Obama deported 1.4 million illegal immigrants since the beginning of his administration — that's 1.5 times more immigrants on average than Bush deported every month, according to official numbers from the Department of Homeland Security*. But that's only part of Obama's deportation strategy: The administration's stated goal is to prioritize the deportation of criminal, dangerous illegal immigrants. And it's promised to make a new program called Secure Communities mandatory by 2013, which would force local law enforcement to share fingerprints of those arrested with the Department of Homeland Security, which has immigration records, through the FBI.
The GOP platform, however, accuses the Obama administration of having "undermined the rule of law at every turn" and "failed to enforce the legal means for workers or employers who want to operate within the law," according to a draft version that Politico obtained. The platform doubles down on Obama's own promise to prioritize the deportation of immigrants with a criminal history. The GOP is calling to "expedite expulsion of criminal aliens" — and wants to expand the list of deportable offenses to include "gang membership," though it's unclear how that would be defined.
Moreover, Republicans want to revive a program called 287(g). Under this program, local communities can opt to have law enforcement officials trained by federal agents to arrest and detain suspects because of immigration status. The program peaked under Bush, but Obama has scaled it back with the intention of phasing it out altogether. The Obama administration revoked part of its 287(g) agreements with Arizona in June, citing the Justice Department's lawsuit allegations of racial profiling and civil rights abuses by local law enforcement, including Maricopa County's infamous Sheriff Joe Arpaio.
There is also evidence that 287(g) hasn't been meeting the Obama administration's stated goal of targeting dangerous, criminal immigrants for deportation: According to a study from the independent Migration Policy Institute, half of those detained under 287(g) were people who had committed misdemeanors or traffic offenses. What's more, MPI found that "state and local officials operate 287(g) programs according to priorities shaped largely by political pressures." That's another reason why the Obama administration wants to transition to Secure Communities, which would shift more enforcement authority to the federal government. "It takes those decisions out of the hands of local police officers," says Mary Giovagnoli, director of the Immigration Policy Center.
So both parties want local law enforcement to participate vigorously in immigration enforcement. The major difference is that Republicans want to give more power and discretion to local law enforcement to enforce immigration laws, while Obama wants local authorities to use a federal biometric database to inform decisions about immigration enforcement.
Pro-immigration and civil liberties advocates aren't thrilled with either option: They argue that Secure Communities is also prone to abuse. A October 2011 report from UC-Berkeley law school points out that a much higher number of those arrested through the program are placed in federal detention than usual, for instance. Others worry that Secure Communities program could still encourage racial profiling if local law enforcement knows that those arrested will be screened for their immigration status. "It sounds great on paper, but in practice, a lot of people are picked up and arrested who might not be otherwise," says Giovagnoli.
To be sure, the GOP platform includes a host of other immigration measures that go well beyond what Obama and the Democrats support — prohibiting in-state tuition for college students who are undocumented, opposing amnesty of any kind, and reiterating the GOP's 2008 platform proposal to force employers to check their workers' immigration status through E-Verify.
But on local immigration enforcement, Obama and Republicans are effectively competing to see whose policies are tougher.
*Clarification: Bush deported 2 million immigrants over the course of two terms. That's more than the 1.4 million that Obama has deported to date during his first term. But Obama is deporting them in higher numbers every month than Bush did—1.5 times more. Sorry for any earlier confusion.
The Obama administration has also used what a 2010 Post story deemed to be "unusual methods" to increase deportations, including the extension of a repatriation program that counted for 6,500 deportations to Mexico in 2010, although it denies that it was "cooking the books" to raise its numbers. The House Judiciary Committee also says it's unearthed new evidence that the White House was inflating its deportation numbers. I've contacted the White House and outside experts to clarify, and I'll likely write a separate post on the issue when I hear back.
Easy to do when they are flowing over the boarder in greater numbers. Besides, you're trying to change the subject.
We're talking about illegal immigration, not Obama's deportations.
Posted by Common Citizen on Jun. 11 2014,7:42 pm
(irisheyes @ Jun. 11 2014,10:00 am)
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(Common Citizen @ Jun. 10 2014,9:43 pm)
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Dereliction of duty by our POTUS.
You blame Obama, I'm shocked.
Who's in charge? I realize it's hard for a liberal to find fault and irresponsibility in the person they have invested so much time, energy, and devotion to.
I mean, it reminds me of an abused spouse who can't stop loving their abuser no matter how bad it gets.
Posted by grassman on Jun. 11 2014,8:27 pm
You fail to recognize abuse in it's whole. We been taken all along.
Posted by MADDOG on Jun. 12 2014,9:32 am
You're right, G-man. I do already have my mind made up. The federal government has a Constitutional obligation to protect our borders. They have failed to properly do this for years. It has been exacerbated by the Lord of Lies.QUOTE
< The Deportation Lie >
Removals generated by ICE’s Enforcement and Removals division, which is responsible for interior immigration enforcement, have decreased nearly 50 percent since June 2011. Vaughan says the administration has been inflating its deportation statistics by including a greater number of U.S. Border Patrol cases — illegal immigrants picked up at the border and subsequently referred to ICE — as part of its annual statistics. Border Patrol cases accounted for 56 percent of removals reported in fiscal year 2013, up from 33 percent in 2008. Typically, an individual apprehended at the southern border is simply returned to Mexico without being processed as a deportation by ICE.
Removals generated by ICE’s Enforcement and Removals division, which is responsible for interior immigration enforcement, have decreased nearly 50 percent since June 2011. Vaughan says the administration has been inflating its deportation statistics by including a greater number of U.S. Border Patrol cases — illegal immigrants picked up at the border and subsequently referred to ICE — as part of its annual statistics. Border Patrol cases accounted for 56 percent of removals reported in fiscal year 2013, up from 33 percent in 2008. Typically, an individual apprehended at the southern border is simply returned to Mexico without being processed as a deportation by ICE.
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< It Depends on What the Meaning of
‘Deportations’ Is >
First, a little necessary background: The people who count in the “removals” numbers (which is what administration flacks mean when they boast of “deportations”) are legal immigrants who’ve committed crimes or illegal aliens caught inside the country. (The immigration statistics yearbook says, “Removals are the compulsory and confirmed movement of an inadmissible or deportable alien out of the United States based on an order of removal. An alien who is removed has administrative or criminal consequences placed on subsequent reentry owing to the fact of the removal.”) Those numbers do not include “returns,” who are Mexicans caught sneaking in by the Border Patrol and dumped back across. (The yearbook again: “Returns are the confirmed movement of an inadmissible or deportable alien out of the United States not based on an order of removal. Most of the voluntary returns are of Mexican nationals who have been apprehended by the U.S. Border Patrol and are returned to Mexico.”)
The reason this matters is that, as Representative Smith determined, the administration has started counting certain “returns” as “removals” in order to artificially inflate the numbers and create a “record level” of deportations. Specifically, those illegals caught by the Border Patrol who are shuttled to a different town along the border before they’re returned are being dishonestly counted as deportations. The point of this Alien Transfer Exit Program (ATEP) is to disrupt smuggling networks and make it harder to just keep crossing until you get through. But they’re still just returns, without any “administrative or criminal consequences placed on subsequent reentry.” This has falsely increased the number of total removals by more than 100,000 in the past two years. Smith noted, “When the numbers from this Border Patrol program are removed from this year’s deportation data, it shows that removals are actually down nearly 20% from 2009.”
This is not just a case of spin or fudging or “political lying,” as VDH describes it below. This is pure fabrication. And, naturally, the MSM fall for it.
‘Deportations’ Is >
First, a little necessary background: The people who count in the “removals” numbers (which is what administration flacks mean when they boast of “deportations”) are legal immigrants who’ve committed crimes or illegal aliens caught inside the country. (The immigration statistics yearbook says, “Removals are the compulsory and confirmed movement of an inadmissible or deportable alien out of the United States based on an order of removal. An alien who is removed has administrative or criminal consequences placed on subsequent reentry owing to the fact of the removal.”) Those numbers do not include “returns,” who are Mexicans caught sneaking in by the Border Patrol and dumped back across. (The yearbook again: “Returns are the confirmed movement of an inadmissible or deportable alien out of the United States not based on an order of removal. Most of the voluntary returns are of Mexican nationals who have been apprehended by the U.S. Border Patrol and are returned to Mexico.”)
The reason this matters is that, as Representative Smith determined, the administration has started counting certain “returns” as “removals” in order to artificially inflate the numbers and create a “record level” of deportations. Specifically, those illegals caught by the Border Patrol who are shuttled to a different town along the border before they’re returned are being dishonestly counted as deportations. The point of this Alien Transfer Exit Program (ATEP) is to disrupt smuggling networks and make it harder to just keep crossing until you get through. But they’re still just returns, without any “administrative or criminal consequences placed on subsequent reentry.” This has falsely increased the number of total removals by more than 100,000 in the past two years. Smith noted, “When the numbers from this Border Patrol program are removed from this year’s deportation data, it shows that removals are actually down nearly 20% from 2009.”
This is not just a case of spin or fudging or “political lying,” as VDH describes it below. This is pure fabrication. And, naturally, the MSM fall for it.
Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 12 2014,4:44 pm
I see there's some immigrant heritage month add on the top of the page.How ironic.
Posted by Common Citizen on Jun. 12 2014,10:09 pm
Strange. My ad shows 1000 single Asian women. Which border are they crossing?
Posted by irisheyes on Jun. 19 2014,8:59 am
(Self-Banished @ Jun. 11 2014,12:01 pm)
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Too many words,
I think the word you're looking for is amnesty.
I think the word you're looking for is amnesty.
All immigration reforms include some path to citizenship. You've defended Reagan on here repeatedly, you know what he did with immigration? Yep, amnesty.
CC:
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Who's in charge? I realize it's hard for a liberal to find fault and irresponsibility in the person they have invested so much time, energy, and devotion to.
If you blame Obama on everything than your opinion won't be that valid on the subject. You're wrong about me not finding fault with him, his stance on many civil liberties has been just as bad as Bush's, sometimes worse. My main problem is the targeted killings, especially of a U.S. citizen. The drug war on both a federal and local level is unchanged, many states have legalized pot, but the use of civil asset forfeiture isn't going anywhere. People are having their homes, cars, and other property stolen regardless of conviction or adherence to the 4th and 5th Amendments. The Patriot Act is still there, only slightly changed, but domestic wiretapping without warrant is still there. That's my rant for now, and the Democrats certainly aren't helping with those things, at least the Democrats in power aren't.
But back to the topic, I defend reform plans like this because they're built on compromise. Have you seen that film with George H.W. Bush that he did about his life? In talking about his time in Congress he said, "we weren't renegades or bomb throwers, we got things done." The likes of Reagan or George H.W. would never pass the muster of the current Republican party.
Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 19 2014,10:39 am
(irisheyes @ Jun. 19 2014,8:59 am)
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(Self-Banished @ Jun. 11 2014,12:01 pm)
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Too many words,
I think the word you're looking for is amnesty.
I think the word you're looking for is amnesty.
All immigration reforms include some path to citizenship. You've defended Reagan on here repeatedly, you know what he did with immigration? Yep, amnesty.
Reagan wasn't perfect, and that amnesty was a disaster.
So let's try it again and expect a different result ??
Posted by Marneman on Jun. 23 2014,2:24 am
It's true that Reagan singed a law granting amensty to 3 million illeagals, but that was a bill passed by the then democratic controled house and senate(remember when the president could work with congress even when it was controlled by the other party, but I degress). The bill also contained provisions to strenghten border security and stop employment of illeagals thats one of the reasons that Reagan aggreed to sign it. It was to be the end of the issue. Unfortuatly congress progressifly gutted those security and employment measures (and it was BOTH parties that did the gutting) till we are where we are today. We are being invaded like a body gets invaded by the Ebola virus(a virus that causes you to bleed out). I lived down on the border so I know that until our government takes this problem seriously it won't get fixed. I always said we missed an oppertunaty when the two Germany's were reunited after the cold war, we could have gotten walls, fencing, land mines, sensors, and guard towers cheap! If we want to stop the flow of illeagals we need to secure our borders(security) and have monetary fines on busuness that really hurt, like millons of dollars instead of mere single digit thousands that can be brush off as the cost of doing business!(employment measures). 
Posted by MADDOG on Jun. 23 2014,8:25 am
(Marneman @ Jun. 23 2014,2:24 am)
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We are being invaded like a body gets invaded by the Ebola virus(a virus that causes you to bleed out). I lived down on the border so I know that until our government takes this problem seriously it won't get fixed. I always said we missed an oppertunaty when the two Germany's were reunited after the cold war, we could have gotten walls, fencing, land mines, sensors, and guard towers cheap! If we want to stop the flow of illeagals we need to secure our borders(security) and have monetary fines on busuness that really hurt, like millons of dollars instead of mere single digit thousands that can be brush off as the cost of doing business!(employment measures).
Posted by pepi-lapew on Jun. 24 2014,7:03 am
I think that since the border agents are union, they should go on strike for more pay. they are doing jobs that are not in the job description. Be a cold day in hell I start changing diapers for an illegal brat let them die in the desert. If they make it, send them back the same day!
Posted by irisheyes on Jun. 24 2014,4:54 pm
(pepi-lapew @ Jun. 24 2014,7:03 am)
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Be a cold day in hell I start changing diapers for an illegal brat let them die in the desert.
Your answer on most things involves letting people die. You either have to introduce bran and whole grains in your diet, or you're just a really bad person.
Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 24 2014,6:59 pm
(irisheyes @ Jun. 24 2014,4:54 pm)
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(pepi-lapew @ Jun. 24 2014,7:03 am)
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Be a cold day in hell I start changing diapers for an illegal brat let them die in the desert.
Your answer on most things involves letting people die. You either have to introduce bran and whole grains in your diet, or you're just a really bad person.
I eat oatmeal every day,
Let'em die in the desert
Posted by MADDOG on Jun. 25 2014,8:33 am
Use active duty military to turn them back BEFORE they even set foot on U.S. soil.
Posted by grassman on Jun. 25 2014,9:46 am
One thing that really upsets me is that is not that difficult. Bring officials of Mexico to the border, hand them over. It is now their problem. The move of bringing them further inland is ridiculous. Out of sight, out of mind. Pretty soon they are just mingling with everyone else. Diseases and all. 
Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 25 2014,11:23 am
^^^yep, that's your choice of president that's doing that. By doing nothing about it or even encouraging the law breaking thousands of children are endangered by this bullsh!t. Yep, Obama really cares about children.
Posted by irisheyes on Jun. 25 2014,4:57 pm
(Self-Banished @ Jun. 24 2014,6:59 pm)
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Let'em die in the desert
Pepi:
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Be a cold day in hell I start changing diapers for an illegal brat let them die in the desert.
Hopefully social darwinism won't be as popular when you guys need your diapers changed.
Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 25 2014,5:23 pm
(irisheyes @ Jun. 25 2014,4:57 pm)
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(Self-Banished @ Jun. 24 2014,6:59 pm)
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Let'em die in the desert
Pepi:
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Be a cold day in hell I start changing diapers for an illegal brat let them die in the desert.
Hopefully social darwinism won't be as popular when you guys need your diapers changed.
How very snide of you
Posted by grassman on Jun. 26 2014,6:40 am
Remember, never trust a fart after 50.... 
Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 26 2014,8:39 am
^^^Sage advice.
Posted by pepi-lapew on Jul. 01 2014,7:41 am
Do you think you would get the same treatment in Mexico that these Illegal rats get in America? HELL NO So get off your soap box. 
Posted by Self-Banished on Jul. 02 2014,10:30 am
Seem to be quite a few malcontents < http://ktla.com/2014...igrants >
That's not very nice.
Posted by Self-Banished on Jul. 03 2014,5:57 am
And then there's this< http://www.foxnews.com/opinion...-arrest >
Posted by MADDOG on Jul. 03 2014,8:34 am
This doesn't sound quite like Hippa laws.QUOTE
“There were several of us who wanted to talk about the camps, but the agents made it clear we would be arrested,” a psychiatric counselor told me. “We were under orders not to say anything.”
The sources said workers were guarded by a security force from the BCFS, which the Department of Health and Human Services hired to run the Lackland Camp.
The sources say security forces called themselves the “Brown Shirts.”
“It was a very submissive atmosphere,” the counselor said. “Once you stepped onto the grounds, you abided by their laws – the Brown Shirt laws.”
She said the workers were stripped of their cellphones and other communication devices. Anyone caught with a phone was immediately fired.
“Everyone was paranoid,” she said. “The children had more rights than the workers.”
She said children in the camp had measles, scabies, chicken pox and strep throat as well as mental and emotional issues.
“It was not a good atmosphere in terms of health,” she said. “I would be talking to children and lice would just be climbing down their hair.”
A former nurse at the camp told me she was horrified by what she saw.
The sources said workers were guarded by a security force from the BCFS, which the Department of Health and Human Services hired to run the Lackland Camp.
The sources say security forces called themselves the “Brown Shirts.”
“It was a very submissive atmosphere,” the counselor said. “Once you stepped onto the grounds, you abided by their laws – the Brown Shirt laws.”
She said the workers were stripped of their cellphones and other communication devices. Anyone caught with a phone was immediately fired.
“Everyone was paranoid,” she said. “The children had more rights than the workers.”
She said children in the camp had measles, scabies, chicken pox and strep throat as well as mental and emotional issues.
“It was not a good atmosphere in terms of health,” she said. “I would be talking to children and lice would just be climbing down their hair.”
A former nurse at the camp told me she was horrified by what she saw.
For those of you that don't know, "Brown shirts" are spelled Sturmabteilung or SA for short.
Posted by Self-Banished on Jul. 03 2014,12:18 pm
Do they have snazzy emblems on their uniforms like this???
Posted by MADDOG on Jul. 03 2014,1:02 pm
Looking for a job?QUOTE
BCFS Harlingen
Company: BCFS HHS
Position: Case Manager III
Assignment: ICS Harlingen
Reports to: Lead Case Manager
Status: Exempt
Pay Grade: 10 ($36,000.00 annually)
Education:
Master’s degree in the Behavioral Science, Human Services, or Social Services fields and at least three years of progressive employment experience in the aforementioned fields that demonstrates supervisory and case management experience. Or Bachelor’s degree in Behavioral Science, Human Services, or Social Services fields and three to five years of progressive employment experience in the aforementioned fields that demonstrates supervisory and case management experience preferred.
Experience:
Professional license in Behavioral Science, Human Services or Social Services strongly preferred. Child welfare experience strongly preferred.
Supervises: As assigned by Supervisor
Critical Action Items:
1.Coordinate with United States Border Patrol agent placement of the Unaccompanied Alien Children (UAC’s)
2.Complete Case Management Tracking for each assigned UAC.
3.Contact prospective sponsor to discuss role of BCFS and reunification process.
4.Ensure sponsor information is included in family reunification packet.
5.Attend weekly case staffing meeting with Division of Unaccompanied Children’s Services (DUCS) field coordinator and follow-up with DFC recommendations.
6.Meet with each assigned UAC weekly and additional meeting as requested by UAC.
7.Review completed family reunification packets for accuracy.
8.Follow up with sponsor to discuss any issue identified in review of family reunification packet.
9.Complete Release Request Worksheet, Case History (if applicable) and Verification of Release Forms. Submit to DFC along with copy of Family Reunification Packet.
10.Receive approved Interim Verification Release Form. Review with child and obtain his/her signature.
11.Prepare Sponsors for successful completion of Changes of Address, Changes of Venue form. Obtain necessary signatures. Forward original document to Executive Office of Immigration Review (EOIR) and forward copy to DHS (Department of Homeland Security).
12.Complete and submit notice to EOIR form when Office of Refugee Resettlement (ORR) issues approved release for child.
13.Assist children during departure, as needed.
14.Prepare, compile, submit, and maintain accurate records, files, forms, statistics, and additional relevant information in accord with agency policy, licensing and/or funding requirements.
15.Review and sign off on client records in accordance with licensing, and contract standards.
16.Participate in planning, coordinating, implementing, and evaluating designated social service program(s).
17.Participate in workshops, seminars, education programs and other activities that promote professional growth and development.
18.Serve as Liaison with Consulates of UAC in care
Other Responsibilities:
1.Driving and some travel required.
2.Member of IMT. Attends all mandated trainings for IMT and reports for active duty when required.
3.Other job duties as assigned.
Requirements:
1.Possess excellent interpersonal skills, as well as, organizational and planning skills.
2.Possess sensitivity to the service population’s cultural and socio-economic characteristics.
3.Must possess a valid driver’s license and have an excellent driving record.
4.Must be bilingual English/Spanish
5.Pass a criminal background check
6.The ability to work effectively within a faith based agency, namely BCFS.
Posted by Self-Banished on Jul. 03 2014,1:22 pm
^^^$36K? Wow, Expat will work for that, he thinks that's a fortune! 
Posted by grassman on Jul. 04 2014,6:57 am
(Self-Banished @ Jul. 03 2014,1:22 pm)
QUOTE
^^^$36K? Wow, Expat will work for that, he thinks that's a fortune!
...psst, your arrogance is showing.
To a lot of people, 36 K IS A FORTUNE! People, out of your social stature of course.
Posted by Self-Banished on Jul. 04 2014,7:05 am
^^^no, just kinda of fun to tweet Expat's nose now and then, he likes to think truck drivers only make 30-40 K a year.In this country, least for the time being, income is only limited to the amount of ambition one has.
Posted by Marneman on Jul. 06 2014,1:37 am
At the ceremony at the White House on Friday,where a number of imagrants became full fledged citizens(all of them in the military), the president took the opportunity to again make a pitch for imagration reform. WHY!!! If we enforced the laws already in place it wouldn't be a problem! What this comes down to is that the President and others want another big amnesty program and their upset that a lot of us "racist" citizens don't want it. He stated during his speech that we are a country of imagrants, but failed to mention that it was legal imagrants that came to this country not people disobeying the law and coming here illegally!! I've heard that one of the reasons we are getting this big influx of illegal minors from Central America is that someone has been spreading the message down there for them to send them up here and "someone" will fix it for them to all stay!! I also watch the story on ABC news where they talked to some woman who along with her 2 children was apprehended in Texas, but her deportation hearing was scheduled in Baltimore, MD. She and her children were given bus tickets to Baltimore, but SUPRISE she failed to show up. We americans are really beginning to get fed up with the situation as it is now being handled and we are going to see more situations like the one in California where people will come out and openly protest against further coddling of illegal imagrants.
Posted by Botto 82 on Jul. 06 2014,11:34 am
Whiteys be all up in arms over illegals, Native Americans be all STFU...
Posted by Self-Banished on Jul. 06 2014,5:09 pm
^^^hmmmm, didn't recognize them without their hats
Posted by Common Citizen on Jul. 15 2014,10:03 pm
(MADDOG @ Jul. 03 2014,1:02 pm)
QUOTE
Looking for a job?
BCFS Harlingen
Company: BCFS HHS
Position: Case Manager III
Assignment: ICS Harlingen
Reports to: Lead Case Manager
Status: Exempt
Pay Grade: 10 ($36,000.00 annually)
Education:
Master’s degree in the Behavioral Science, Human Services, or Social Services fields and at least three years of progressive employment experience in the aforementioned fields that demonstrates supervisory and case management experience. Or Bachelor’s degree in Behavioral Science, Human Services, or Social Services fields and three to five years of progressive employment experience in the aforementioned fields that demonstrates supervisory and case management experience preferred.
Experience:
Professional license in Behavioral Science, Human Services or Social Services strongly preferred. Child welfare experience strongly preferred.
Supervises: As assigned by Supervisor
Critical Action Items:
1.Coordinate with United States Border Patrol agent placement of the Unaccompanied Alien Children (UAC’s)
2.Complete Case Management Tracking for each assigned UAC.
3.Contact prospective sponsor to discuss role of BCFS and reunification process.
4.Ensure sponsor information is included in family reunification packet.
5.Attend weekly case staffing meeting with Division of Unaccompanied Children’s Services (DUCS) field coordinator and follow-up with DFC recommendations.
6.Meet with each assigned UAC weekly and additional meeting as requested by UAC.
7.Review completed family reunification packets for accuracy.
8.Follow up with sponsor to discuss any issue identified in review of family reunification packet.
9.Complete Release Request Worksheet, Case History (if applicable) and Verification of Release Forms. Submit to DFC along with copy of Family Reunification Packet.
10.Receive approved Interim Verification Release Form. Review with child and obtain his/her signature.
11.Prepare Sponsors for successful completion of Changes of Address, Changes of Venue form. Obtain necessary signatures. Forward original document to Executive Office of Immigration Review (EOIR) and forward copy to DHS (Department of Homeland Security).
12.Complete and submit notice to EOIR form when Office of Refugee Resettlement (ORR) issues approved release for child.
13.Assist children during departure, as needed.
14.Prepare, compile, submit, and maintain accurate records, files, forms, statistics, and additional relevant information in accord with agency policy, licensing and/or funding requirements.
15.Review and sign off on client records in accordance with licensing, and contract standards.
16.Participate in planning, coordinating, implementing, and evaluating designated social service program(s).
17.Participate in workshops, seminars, education programs and other activities that promote professional growth and development.
18.Serve as Liaison with Consulates of UAC in care
Other Responsibilities:
1.Driving and some travel required.
2.Member of IMT. Attends all mandated trainings for IMT and reports for active duty when required.
3.Other job duties as assigned.
Requirements:
1.Possess excellent interpersonal skills, as well as, organizational and planning skills.
2.Possess sensitivity to the service population’s cultural and socio-economic characteristics.
3.Must possess a valid driver’s license and have an excellent driving record.
4.Must be bilingual English/Spanish
5.Pass a criminal background check
6.The ability to work effectively within a faith based agency, namely BCFS.
QUOTE
BCFS Harlingen
Company: BCFS HHS
Position: Case Manager III
Assignment: ICS Harlingen
Reports to: Lead Case Manager
Status: Exempt
Pay Grade: 10 ($36,000.00 annually)
Education:
Master’s degree in the Behavioral Science, Human Services, or Social Services fields and at least three years of progressive employment experience in the aforementioned fields that demonstrates supervisory and case management experience. Or Bachelor’s degree in Behavioral Science, Human Services, or Social Services fields and three to five years of progressive employment experience in the aforementioned fields that demonstrates supervisory and case management experience preferred.
Experience:
Professional license in Behavioral Science, Human Services or Social Services strongly preferred. Child welfare experience strongly preferred.
Supervises: As assigned by Supervisor
Critical Action Items:
1.Coordinate with United States Border Patrol agent placement of the Unaccompanied Alien Children (UAC’s)
2.Complete Case Management Tracking for each assigned UAC.
3.Contact prospective sponsor to discuss role of BCFS and reunification process.
4.Ensure sponsor information is included in family reunification packet.
5.Attend weekly case staffing meeting with Division of Unaccompanied Children’s Services (DUCS) field coordinator and follow-up with DFC recommendations.
6.Meet with each assigned UAC weekly and additional meeting as requested by UAC.
7.Review completed family reunification packets for accuracy.
8.Follow up with sponsor to discuss any issue identified in review of family reunification packet.
9.Complete Release Request Worksheet, Case History (if applicable) and Verification of Release Forms. Submit to DFC along with copy of Family Reunification Packet.
10.Receive approved Interim Verification Release Form. Review with child and obtain his/her signature.
11.Prepare Sponsors for successful completion of Changes of Address, Changes of Venue form. Obtain necessary signatures. Forward original document to Executive Office of Immigration Review (EOIR) and forward copy to DHS (Department of Homeland Security).
12.Complete and submit notice to EOIR form when Office of Refugee Resettlement (ORR) issues approved release for child.
13.Assist children during departure, as needed.
14.Prepare, compile, submit, and maintain accurate records, files, forms, statistics, and additional relevant information in accord with agency policy, licensing and/or funding requirements.
15.Review and sign off on client records in accordance with licensing, and contract standards.
16.Participate in planning, coordinating, implementing, and evaluating designated social service program(s).
17.Participate in workshops, seminars, education programs and other activities that promote professional growth and development.
18.Serve as Liaison with Consulates of UAC in care
Other Responsibilities:
1.Driving and some travel required.
2.Member of IMT. Attends all mandated trainings for IMT and reports for active duty when required.
3.Other job duties as assigned.
Requirements:
1.Possess excellent interpersonal skills, as well as, organizational and planning skills.
2.Possess sensitivity to the service population’s cultural and socio-economic characteristics.
3.Must possess a valid driver’s license and have an excellent driving record.
4.Must be bilingual English/Spanish
5.Pass a criminal background check
6.The ability to work effectively within a faith based agency, namely BCFS.
So the average cost of getting a Master's degree runs anywhere from $80k - $120k. Add that to $100k you spent getting your bachelor's degree and you're into your education for about $200k at this point.
This job is paying $36k.
I'm thinking a degree in economics should also be required for the idiot posting the requirements for this job.
Posted by Self-Banished on Jul. 16 2014,4:51 pm
Harry Reid has pronounced the border secure, I feel so much safer He must be under a lot of stress
Poor guy
< http://p.washingtontimes.com/news...-agains >
Posted by Expatriate on Jul. 21 2014,10:44 am
It’s hard to blame just one Party or President for this problem it’s obvious they don’t want to deal with the problem they’ve beencorrupted by big money influences.
This has been happening since the 1960’s when our legal immigration quota was increased to over a million a year an unsustainable
number by itself. When Reagan declared amnesty for the illegals in the 80’s the problem escalated.
So why are these people coming here, because Corporate America wants them here, these people come here to escape the low wage no wage poverty of the own country’s REPUBLICAN style Governments to come here work illegally for our corrupt Corporate slave masters!
Money has far too large a role in politics, we should all make the effort to get big money out of our Government
QUOTE
Wolf PAC is an American political action committee formed in 2011 with the goal of "ending corporate personhood and publicly financing all elections in our country", to include the restriction of large monetary donations to political candidates, parties, and groups
Its strategy is to add a 28th amendment to the Constitution, thereby overturning multiple Supreme Court cases including Citizens United v. FEC and Buckley v. Valeo, which cumulatively have made it impossible to achieve Wolf PAC's campaign finance goals through simple legislation. Wolf PAC believes that Congress is too corrupt to pass such an amendment itself, and therefore advocates a convention of the States, which is a procedure outlined in Article V of the Constitution. As of June 2014, two out of the necessary thirty-four states have passed resolutions calling for such a convention.
Its strategy is to add a 28th amendment to the Constitution, thereby overturning multiple Supreme Court cases including Citizens United v. FEC and Buckley v. Valeo, which cumulatively have made it impossible to achieve Wolf PAC's campaign finance goals through simple legislation. Wolf PAC believes that Congress is too corrupt to pass such an amendment itself, and therefore advocates a convention of the States, which is a procedure outlined in Article V of the Constitution. As of June 2014, two out of the necessary thirty-four states have passed resolutions calling for such a convention.
Posted by Self-Banished on Jul. 21 2014,10:51 am
(Expatriate @ Jul. 21 2014,10:44 am)
QUOTE
. When Reagan declared amnesty for the illegals in the 80’s the problem escalated.
Let's not forget Reagan had the cooperation of a Demarat congress for this.
Posted by MADDOG on Jul. 25 2014,8:51 am
QUOTE
July 24, 2014
The Honorable Barack Obama
President of the United States
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
Washington, DC 20500
Dear President Obama:
We write to express our deep concerns about the immigration crisis created by the inability of the federal government to secure the Southwest Border. Like many Iowans, we find the lack of transparency from your Administration with State and local leaders and the public on this important issue troubling.
At a recent National Governors Association meeting, Secretary Sylvia Burwell pledged to notify State leaders before any illegal immigrant children would be placed in our State. However, earlier this week, our office first learned from a news reporter that 122 illegal immigrant children had been placed with sponsors in the State of Iowa during the first six months of the year.
The following day, another reporter indicated that 17 additional individuals had been placed in Iowa during the first 18 days of July. On July 22, senior Federal officials communicated that State or local leaders will only be notified about facility placements and will not be notified when individuals are placed with sponsors in their jurisdiction.
Federal officials have not been able to communicate how many of the 139 individuals placed in Iowa remain in the State. Further, Federal officials indicated that sponsors are not being asked about their legal status, which further erodes public confidence in your Administration’s approach, particularly when there is no accountability to ensure that unaccompanied alien children and sponsors will indeed appear at any scheduled immigration hearings.
We respectfully request that your Administration begin sharing individual-level data on all placements in Iowa with the Iowa Department of Human Services. Additionally, it is important for States to be kept informed of departure information for unaccompanied alien children. This transparency is critically important on a real-time basis so State and local leaders are empowered with the information needed to make sound decisions and ensure the health, safety and well-being of their citizens.
We are deeply empathetic for the unaccompanied alien children who are coming to the United States for a better life. However, the lack of a secure border and sound immigration policy is sending a signal of false hope to the unaccompanied alien children.
Should clandestine placements continue, we request written certification from Secretary Burwell that the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (USHHS) takes full responsibility for ensuring the unaccompanied alien children are educated and in healthy and safe environments complying with the laws of the State of Iowa.
Iowa is a welcoming State with a history of opening its arms to legal immigrants from around the world. Legal immigrants are an important part of our nation’s and Iowa’s history and will continue to be an important part of our future growth, innovation and culture. However, the policies of your Administration jeopardize the lives of unaccompanied alien children who are currently making a very dangerous journey from Central America.
Further, the clandestine placement of unaccompanied alien children into communities across the country erodes public trust and puts a strain on already scarce State and Federal resources. Respectfully, your Administration’s policies and actions created this crisis and are perpetuating the problems for unaccompanied alien children while ignoring the true costs these actions are imposing on local, State and federal taxpayers.
Therefore, it is incumbent upon your Administration and Congress to find a solution to this crisis and not just push the issue upon the States.Thank you for your time and we look forward to your response.
Sincerely,
Terry E. Branstad Kim Reynolds
Governor of Iowa Lt. Governor of Iowa
cc: Hon. Joseph Biden, Vice President Hon. Sylvia Burwell, Secretary, USHHS, Hon. Jeh Johnson, Secretary, U.S. Department of Homeland Security, Hon. Eric Holder, Attorney General, U.S. Department of Justice
The Honorable Barack Obama
President of the United States
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
Washington, DC 20500
Dear President Obama:
We write to express our deep concerns about the immigration crisis created by the inability of the federal government to secure the Southwest Border. Like many Iowans, we find the lack of transparency from your Administration with State and local leaders and the public on this important issue troubling.
At a recent National Governors Association meeting, Secretary Sylvia Burwell pledged to notify State leaders before any illegal immigrant children would be placed in our State. However, earlier this week, our office first learned from a news reporter that 122 illegal immigrant children had been placed with sponsors in the State of Iowa during the first six months of the year.
The following day, another reporter indicated that 17 additional individuals had been placed in Iowa during the first 18 days of July. On July 22, senior Federal officials communicated that State or local leaders will only be notified about facility placements and will not be notified when individuals are placed with sponsors in their jurisdiction.
Federal officials have not been able to communicate how many of the 139 individuals placed in Iowa remain in the State. Further, Federal officials indicated that sponsors are not being asked about their legal status, which further erodes public confidence in your Administration’s approach, particularly when there is no accountability to ensure that unaccompanied alien children and sponsors will indeed appear at any scheduled immigration hearings.
We respectfully request that your Administration begin sharing individual-level data on all placements in Iowa with the Iowa Department of Human Services. Additionally, it is important for States to be kept informed of departure information for unaccompanied alien children. This transparency is critically important on a real-time basis so State and local leaders are empowered with the information needed to make sound decisions and ensure the health, safety and well-being of their citizens.
We are deeply empathetic for the unaccompanied alien children who are coming to the United States for a better life. However, the lack of a secure border and sound immigration policy is sending a signal of false hope to the unaccompanied alien children.
Should clandestine placements continue, we request written certification from Secretary Burwell that the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (USHHS) takes full responsibility for ensuring the unaccompanied alien children are educated and in healthy and safe environments complying with the laws of the State of Iowa.
Iowa is a welcoming State with a history of opening its arms to legal immigrants from around the world. Legal immigrants are an important part of our nation’s and Iowa’s history and will continue to be an important part of our future growth, innovation and culture. However, the policies of your Administration jeopardize the lives of unaccompanied alien children who are currently making a very dangerous journey from Central America.
Further, the clandestine placement of unaccompanied alien children into communities across the country erodes public trust and puts a strain on already scarce State and Federal resources. Respectfully, your Administration’s policies and actions created this crisis and are perpetuating the problems for unaccompanied alien children while ignoring the true costs these actions are imposing on local, State and federal taxpayers.
Therefore, it is incumbent upon your Administration and Congress to find a solution to this crisis and not just push the issue upon the States.Thank you for your time and we look forward to your response.
Sincerely,
Terry E. Branstad Kim Reynolds
Governor of Iowa Lt. Governor of Iowa
cc: Hon. Joseph Biden, Vice President Hon. Sylvia Burwell, Secretary, USHHS, Hon. Jeh Johnson, Secretary, U.S. Department of Homeland Security, Hon. Eric Holder, Attorney General, U.S. Department of Justice
Posted by Self-Banished on Jul. 27 2014,5:06 am
Question is...Has governor spineless allowed or encouraged the Feds to let them come here?
Oops, should have looked first,
< http://www.kare11.com/story...3136851 >
Of course, Rep. Ellison, that POS.
Posted by Self-Banished on Jul. 29 2014,7:40 am
Yet another reason to secure our borders< http://www.usatoday.com/story...3267909 >
Posted by MADDOG on Jul. 29 2014,10:25 am
QUOTE
< Tennessee Gov. Haslam slams White House for secret dump of illegals in his state >
Gov. Bill Haslam said he only learned of the White House’s dumping of 760 illegal immigrants in Tennessee after seeing a notification on the Health and Human Services website — and that’s even after he had asked the Obama administration to give him advance notice of any illegals who were on their way to his state.
Mr. Haslam said he and several other governors “met with Health and Human Services Secretary Sylvia Burwell [and] emphasized to Secretary Burwell the need to be informed of any children being relocated to our states,” Breitbart reported.
He then said 700 illegal minor-aged immigrants were recently sent to Tennessee, but he received no notification at all.
“It is unacceptable that we become aware via a posting on the HHS website that 760 unaccompanied children have been released by the Office of Refugee Resettlement to sponsors in Tennessee without my administration’s knowledge,” he said in a letter to President Obama and Ms. Burwell, Breitbart reported.
“Not only was our state not informed prior to any of the children being brought here, I still have not been contacted and have no information about these individuals or their sponsors other than what was posted on the HHS website and subsequently reported by media,” he wrote in the letter.
He also said that the dumping of the illegals in his state — and in other states — could severely impact the financial coffers, Breitbart reported.
“The start of school is approaching for many districts across the state, and the federal government’s actions have caused great uncertainty around this issue,” Mr. Haslam said, Breitbart reported.
HHS said late last week that 30,340 illegal minor-aged immigrants have been placed in states around the nation since the start of this year.
Gov. Bill Haslam said he only learned of the White House’s dumping of 760 illegal immigrants in Tennessee after seeing a notification on the Health and Human Services website — and that’s even after he had asked the Obama administration to give him advance notice of any illegals who were on their way to his state.
Mr. Haslam said he and several other governors “met with Health and Human Services Secretary Sylvia Burwell [and] emphasized to Secretary Burwell the need to be informed of any children being relocated to our states,” Breitbart reported.
He then said 700 illegal minor-aged immigrants were recently sent to Tennessee, but he received no notification at all.
“It is unacceptable that we become aware via a posting on the HHS website that 760 unaccompanied children have been released by the Office of Refugee Resettlement to sponsors in Tennessee without my administration’s knowledge,” he said in a letter to President Obama and Ms. Burwell, Breitbart reported.
“Not only was our state not informed prior to any of the children being brought here, I still have not been contacted and have no information about these individuals or their sponsors other than what was posted on the HHS website and subsequently reported by media,” he wrote in the letter.
He also said that the dumping of the illegals in his state — and in other states — could severely impact the financial coffers, Breitbart reported.
“The start of school is approaching for many districts across the state, and the federal government’s actions have caused great uncertainty around this issue,” Mr. Haslam said, Breitbart reported.
HHS said late last week that 30,340 illegal minor-aged immigrants have been placed in states around the nation since the start of this year.
That doesn't take into account any or all the parents who accompanied these illegal minors or any illegal vermin who claim to be over 18.
The lion Bamino family has ramped up the decimation of our democracy while Reid plays the slide to the tune of Mother's Little Helper.