Forum: Opinion
Topic: Bowe-From Soldier to Deserter to
started by: MADDOG

Posted by MADDOG on Jul. 16 2014,12:25 pm
Can't believe a topic on Bergdahl hadn't been started yet.  I would have thought that some veteran or current serving member of our armed forces would have come on here and laid out their two cents worth.  If nothing else, at least an ex-patriot could have exposed this deserter.  Which is the least thing he should be charged.

You don't just wander off a military base at night by accident carrying with you a compass, two knives and day's rations and leaving behind letters and notes by accident.  There is not a member of his platoon in Blackfoot Company who doesn't call him a deserter.  At least those who still can.  Several have been forced to sign nondisclosure to never discuss any of the details.

Now this yet to be charged deserter and possible traitor is being return to active duty behind a desk?  It appears that he couldn't get any more cozy with the Taliban than Hogan with Sgt. Schultz.

Posted by Self-Banished on Jul. 16 2014,4:46 pm
I was never in the military but I also would think that any soldier or ex soldier here would be lit up about this guy.

As far as Seargent Schutlz...

Posted by Expatriate on Jul. 16 2014,4:55 pm
The Army doesn’t seem to be in any hurry to charge Bergdahl, what’s your hurry?
Lots of people do lots of stupid things under the pressure of actual military combat. Bowe has an infantry MOS he wouldn’t be the first to crack, lots of kids do.

Looking at Bergdahl’s < Wiki page > it’s obvious he wasn’t psychologically fit for the infantry he’d already been discharged from one branch for psychological reasons.
I think if we’re going to punish anyone it should be the Recruiter they have the ethics of used car salesmen!

Posted by Self-Banished on Jul. 16 2014,5:37 pm
So what's thought of this subject in Wayne's World...

George, You came on my letter and started assassinating me. Why don’t you say something about the text of my letter. The text is the Republicans have already hung Sgt. Bergdahl. I said he has suffered enough and that the people that gave him a background check should be investagated. They sent him to the front lines after he was kicked out of the Coast Guard because he was mentally challenged. Why don’t don’t you comment on this? It’s just like back in December you blasted me first and didn’t like the way it got going so you wanted to talk about issues. Now how do you stand about Bergdahl? I know you have never heard about a background check on him. Not on Fox News or MSNBC or in any other news. I find it hard to believe that I am the only one that has thought about this. Wayne Thorson


Wow, stunning :laugh:

Posted by Expatriate on Jul. 16 2014,6:28 pm

Posted by pepi-lapew on Jul. 22 2014,12:13 pm
He should be put in the same cell with commie Jane Fonda
Posted by MADDOG on Jul. 31 2014,2:37 pm
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WASHINGTON—Just weeks after Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl’s release from captivity in Afghanistan, U.S. defense officials announced that the 28-year-old had been recaptured by Taliban forces Monday shortly after wandering off base in Texas. “It is with regret that we inform you that at approximately 1200 hours today, Sgt. Bergdahl left his post, was seized by insurgents outside San Antonio, and taken into Taliban custody,” said Pentagon spokesman John Herndon, explaining that, on his first day back on active duty, Bergdahl slipped out of Fort Sam Houston with only a backpack and a notebook, ventured for five miles on foot, and was shortly thereafter abducted by a group of militant jihadists, a sequence of events that was largely corroborated by Bergdahl himself in a Taliban propaganda video released this afternoon. “Based on emails he sent this morning, it appears that Sgt. Bergdahl may have grown disillusioned with his return to service and voluntarily ventured outside the base. We have reclassified him as ‘missing/captured,’ and the U.S. Army will do everything in its power to secure his release and repatriate him, once again, to the United States.” At press time, a spokesman for the Obama administration announced that the president was currently in negotiations to hand over five high-value Taliban prisoners in exchange for Bergdahl.


< news source >

Posted by MADDOG on Jul. 31 2014,2:37 pm
:D
Posted by Liberal on Jul. 31 2014,4:49 pm
The cowardly FOX news chickenhawks can't wait to bad mouth a soldier if it scores some political points.
Posted by MADDOG on Jul. 31 2014,6:35 pm
What's a humorous rant from the Onion got to do with Fox news?
Posted by Liberal on Jul. 31 2014,6:54 pm
I was referring to the topic in general, if I were responding to that post in particular I would have referenced it.
Posted by MADDOG on Aug. 01 2014,9:00 am
No doubt.  As far as Fox news, they already have him in chains before any charges or trials.  Just like some of the members from his unit.  That's likely why he hired attorney  Eugene Fidell.  Just look at this news article on Fax news.  Right wing biased bastages.

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WASHINGTON –  Bowe Bergdahl, the Army sergeant who spent nearly five years as a Taliban captive in Afghanistan, was returned to regular Army duty Monday and will be made available to Army investigators for questioning about his disappearance in 2009.

In a brief statement, the Army said Bergdahl is now assigned to U.S. Army North at Joint Base San Antonio-Fort Sam Houston in Texas, the same base where he has been decompressing from the effects of his lengthy captivity.

His exact duties were not immediately disclosed. The Army said that in his assignment to U.S. Army North he "can contribute to the mission," which is focused on homeland defense. It said the Army investigation into the circumstances of his disappearance and capture by the Taliban in eastern Afghanistan in June 2009 will continue.

Bergdahl walked away from his unit after expressing misgivings about the U.S. military's role — as well as his own — in Afghanistan. He was captured by Taliban members and held by the Haqqani network for five years. He was released May 31 as part of a deal in which the U.S. released five top Taliban commanders who had been imprisoned at the military detention center at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

Some former members of his unit have labeled him a deserter and said some were wounded or killed looking for him. The Army has not ruled out disciplinary action against Bergdahl.

Bergdahl, 28, whose family lives in Hailey, Idaho, arrived at the Brooke Army Medical Center at Fort Sam Houston on June 13 after nearly two weeks recuperating at a U.S. military hospital in Germany.

Army officials had said that in recent days Bergdahl was allowed to go, with supervision, to a grocery store, restaurants, shopping centers and a library as part of the process of getting him comfortable with being out in public.

Bergdahl has not commented publicly on the circumstances of his disappearance, and the Army has made no charges against him. The Army has said it is investigating Bergdahl's disappearance and capture, but that investigators will not interview him until those helping him recover say it is all right to do so.

As of last week, Bergdahl had not seen his parents since his return to the United States, according to a Pentagon official who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss a matter the Army has declined to discuss publicly.

Posted by MADDOG on Aug. 15 2014,1:04 pm
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< Publishers fear Bowe Bergdahl book by former platoon mates would hurt Obama >

The Washington Times - Wednesday, August 13, 2014


Six former platoon mates of Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl have hit roadblocks in shopping proposals for their book because some publishers are reportedly afraid it will discredit President Obama.

After five years in the Taliban’s capture, Sgt. Bergdahl was released in May as part of a U.S. prison exchange for five Taliban terrorists being detained at Guantanamo Bay. Some of the soldier’s platoon mates have come forward saying that Sgt. Bergdahl intentionally deserted his post in Afghanistan on June 30, 2009, putting other soldiers in danger.

A draft of their book proposal depicts Sgt. Bergdahl as a “premeditated” deserter who possibly aided the Taliban, but agents for the soldiers say the controversy over the prisoner swap has complicated the book’s chances at publication, Yahoo News reported.

“I’m not sure we can publish this book without the Right using it to their ends,” Sarah Durand, a senior editor at Atria Books, a division of Simon & Schuster, wrote in an email to one of the soldiers’ agents, Yahoo News reported.

“[T]he Conservatives are all over Bergdahl and using it against Obama,” she wrote, also comparing the book to Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, a veterans group that raised questions about John F. Kerry’s Vietnam record during his run for president in 2004.

Sgt. Bergdahl was questioned in two closed-door sessions last week with Maj. Gen. Kenneth R. Dahl, who is leading the Army’s investigation into his 2009 disappearance.

Two of the proposed book’s would-be authors, retired Sgts. Evan Buetow and Cody Full, are potential key witnesses and were recently questioned as part of the investigation.

The platoon mates insisted that the book would set the record straight on Sgt. Bergdahl.


Just as IE said in another thread.  Last time I checked, bambino can't run for president again unless he signs another executive order.  So if the publishers are worried it may offend him, in the words of Hillary; "What difference doesn't it make anyway?"

Posted by Chunk_Ofgold on Aug. 15 2014,1:12 pm
goyim drivel.. not you guys replying, the whole thing.. who cares
Posted by MADDOG on Oct. 15 2014,12:11 pm
< Well? >
Posted by Self-Banished on Oct. 15 2014,12:19 pm
Imagine that? The gov. Not going to release the verdict till after the election. :sarcasm:
Posted by MADDOG on Oct. 15 2014,12:38 pm
The likely reason for that is he < probably won't be charged or prosecuted >.

That will stir some real unrest in many.

Posted by MADDOG on Jan. 27 2015,9:23 am
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< Bergdahl Charged With Desertion, WH Wants It Kept Quiet >

Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl has been charged with desertion, but the White House is trying to keep the story under wraps

Posted by Liberal on Jan. 27 2015,11:20 am
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White House Deputy National Security Adviser Ben Rhodes is trying to keep the information from becoming public because it would embarrass President Barack Obama, said Lt. Col. Tony Schaffer.

Did he find that information in the Able Danger database?

Funny how not one credible news agency is reporting this.

Posted by Liberal on Jan. 27 2015,11:38 am
< http://www.armytimes.com/story...2396367 >

Wow, who didn't see that coming? :rofl:

Posted by alcitizens on Jan. 27 2015,2:17 pm

(Liberal @ Jan. 27 2015,11:38 am)
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< http://www.armytimes.com/story...2396367 >

Wow, who didn't see that coming? :rofl:

Why does Maddog prefer to read fiction and then post it as fact?

Doesn't he know that he loses all credibility?

Posted by Liberal on Jan. 27 2015,2:37 pm
I didn't think he had any left to lose.
Posted by MADDOG on Jan. 27 2015,6:27 pm
Fact or not, wht I find is that NBC is the news agency who seems to have broke the story.

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< Bowe Bergdahl to face desertion charges: NBC >

(Reuters) - U.S. Army Sergeant Bowe Bergdahl will be charged with desertion for disappearing from his base in Afghanistan in 2009, NBC News reported on Tuesday.

Bergdahl, who was released from captivity last year in a controversial Taliban prisoner swap, could be charged within a week, the television network said, quoting senior defense officials who were not identified by name.

However, senior Army and defense officials contacted by Reuters could not confirm the report.


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Bowe Bergdahl Likely to Be Charged With Desertion, Officials Say

Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, who was held captive by enemy forces in Afghanistan for five years, will likely be charged with desertion, senior defense officials tell NBC News.

The officials point out that Bergdahl will likely face a lesser charge of desertion described in the Uniform Code of Military Justice as leaving a post to avoid duty or shirk an important assignment, based on his actions when he left a remote outpost in June 2009.

< NBC NEWS >

 I'd say they are about the farthest left of the three broadcast networks.

Senior officials are clearly between a rock and a hard place of what ruling comes down.  They will either look bad to military servicemen who have served if they let this probable traitor walk away or will get hung out to dry by the WH if they charge him.  Afterall, The Bambino traded him for five high level terrorists.  

I suppose the Army could string this out until the chosen one is no longer CIC?  

This will likely go into the Bambino F# ups thread when it's all said and done.

Posted by Liberal on Jan. 27 2015,7:29 pm
Nice try, Schaffer via FOX said Bergdahl's lawyer had received a charge sheet and the Army Times says there is no charge sheet.  So once again you kooks fell for Anthony Schaffer's BS. :rofl:

Also Schaffer's BS charge sheet story is what you quoted, NBC makes no mention of charges already being brought like your original story claimed. :dunce:

Like I said, you have no credibility left and since you got caught posting BS you'll do what you always do and not post for awhile hoping we all forget you posted another bs story.  :blush:

Posted by Rosalind_Swenson on Jan. 27 2015,10:58 pm
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 The system is wrong. I am ashamed to be an american. And the title of US soldier is just the lie of fools." The soldiers he actually admired were planning on leaving: "The US army is the biggest joke the world has to laugh at. It is the army of liars, backstabbers, fools, and bullies. The few good SGTs are getting out as soon as they can, and they are telling us privates to do the same."

In the second-to-last paragraph of the e-mail, Bowe wrote about his broader disgust with America's approach to the war – an effort, on the ground, that seemed to represent the exact opposite of the kind of concerted campaign to win the "hearts and minds" of average Afghans envisioned by counterinsurgency strategists. "I am sorry for everything here," Bowe told his parents. "These people need help, yet what they get is the most conceited country in the world telling them that they are nothing and that they are stupid, that they have no idea how to live." He then referred to what his parents believe may have been a formative, possibly traumatic event: seeing an Afghan child run over by an MRAP. "We don't even care when we hear each other talk about running their children down in the dirt streets with our armored trucks... We make fun of them in front of their faces, and laugh at them for not understanding we are insulting them."

Bowe concluded his e-mail with what, in another context, might read as a suicide note. "I am sorry for everything," he wrote. "The horror that is america is disgusting." Then he signed off with a final message to his mother and father. "There are a few more boxes coming to you guys," he said, referring to his uniform and books, which he had already packed up and shipped off. "Feel free to open them, and use them."

On June 27th, at 10:43 p.m., Bob Bergdahl responded to his son's final message not long after he received it. His subject line was titled: OBEY YOUR CONSCIENCE!

"Dear Bowe," he wrote. "In matters of life and death, and especially at war, it is never safe to ignore ones' conscience. Ethics demands obedience to our conscience. It is best to also have a systematic oral defense of what our conscience demands. Stand with like minded men when possible." He signed it simply "dad."

Ordinary soldiers, especially raw recruits facing combat for the first time, respond to the horror of war in all sorts of ways. Some take their own lives: After years of seemingly endless war and repeat deployments, active­duty soldiers in the U.S. Army are currently committing suicide at a record rate, 25 percent higher than the civilian population. Other soldiers lash out with unauthorized acts of violence: the staff sergeant charged with murdering 17 Afghan civilians in their homes last March; the notorious "Kill Team" of U.S. soldiers who went on a shooting spree in 2010, murdering civilians for sport and taking parts of their corpses for trophies. Many come home permanently traumatized, unable to block out the nightmares.

Bowe Bergdahl had a different response. He decided to walk away



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Posted by alcitizens on Jan. 28 2015,3:23 am

(Liberal @ Jan. 27 2015,7:29 pm)
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Like I said, you have no credibility left and since you got caught posting BS you'll do what you always do and not post for awhile hoping we all forget you posted another bs story.  :blush:

I will never forget the BS posted by Maddog..

The only thing working for Republicans is blowing smoke up naive American butt cracks..

Bowe Bergdahl is a deserter, not a hero.. He will pay for it the rest of his life..

Posted by Self-Banished on Jan. 28 2015,4:58 am

(alcitizens @ Jan. 28 2015,3:23 am)
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Bowe Bergdahl is a deserter, not a hero.. He will pay for it the rest of his life..

It should be a very short life in front of a firing squad or at the end of a rope but it'll never happen.
Buster wants this to go away because he made an extremely bad trade. all this might have gone away but someone f#*ked up.

Hey Lib, I like your new "pet" :rofl:

Posted by alcitizens on Jan. 28 2015,5:26 am
Obama doesn't care what anyone thinks.. He was the only person with the power to bring home a son to their family alive..

Thousands that lost their loved ones in Afghanistan wish they would have had the same opportunity..

Posted by Self-Banished on Jan. 28 2015,5:52 am

(alcitizens @ Jan. 28 2015,5:26 am)
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Obama doesn't care what anyone thinks.. He was the only person with the power to bring home a son to their family alive..

Thousands that lost their loved ones in Afghanistan wish they would have had the same opportunity..

Yes, we know, Buster doesn't give a rats ass about anyone except himself.

There are families that wish their sons had come home to them except they were killed looking for that POS deserter.

< http://time.com/2809352/bowe-bergdahl-deserter-army-taliban/ >

Posted by MADDOG on Jan. 28 2015,9:27 am

(Liberal @ Jan. 27 2015,7:29 pm)
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Nice try, Schaffer via FOX said Bergdahl's lawyer had received a charge sheet and the Army Times says there is no charge sheet.  So once again you kooks fell for Anthony Schaffer's BS. :rofl:

Also Schaffer's BS charge sheet story is what you quoted, NBC makes no mention of charges already being brought like your original story claimed. :dunce:

Like I said, you have no credibility left and since you got caught posting BS you'll do what you always do and not post for awhile hoping we all forget you posted another bs story.  :blush:

At least I'm not desperately hanging on to a piece of driftwood, hoping it will float for another two years.  When I see that familiar peacock on the news story, I tend to think it's NBC.

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Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, who was held captive by enemy forces in Afghanistan for five years, will likely be charged with desertion, senior defense officials tell NBC News.

The officials point out that Bergdahl will likely face a lesser charge of desertion described in the Uniform Code of Military Justice as leaving a post to avoid duty or shirk an important assignment, based on his actions when he left a remote outpost in June 2009.

Those charges carry a maximum sentence of 5 years in prison upon conviction, but sources tell NBC News the Army is considering crediting Bergdahl for the 5 years he spent in captivity and be given the opportunity to avoid prosecution by leaving the Army with a "less than honorable discharge."



QUOTE
the “post turtle”


While suturing a cut on the hand of a 75 year old Texas
rancher, whose hand was caught in a gate while working
cattle, the doctor struck up a conversation with the old
man. Eventually the topic got around to Obama and his bid to
be president.
The old rancher said, "Well, ya know, Obama is a
"post turtle".
Not being familiar with the term, the doctor asked him what
a "post turtle" was. The old rancher said,
"When you're driving down a country road and you
come across a fence post with a turtle balanced on top,
that's a "post turtle".
The old rancher saw a puzzled look on the doctor's
face, so he continued to explain. You know he didn't get
up there by himself, he doesn't belong up there, he
doesn't know what to do while he is up there, and you
just wonder what kind of a dumb ass put him up there in the
first place.

Posted by alcitizens on Jan. 28 2015,9:59 am

(Self-Banished @ Jan. 28 2015,5:52 am)
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(alcitizens @ Jan. 28 2015,5:26 am)
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Obama doesn't care what anyone thinks.. He was the only person with the power to bring home a son to their family alive..

Thousands that lost their loved ones in Afghanistan wish they would have had the same opportunity..

Yes, we know, Buster doesn't give a rats ass about anyone except himself.

There are families that wish their sons had come home to them except they were killed looking for that POS deserter.

< http://time.com/2809352/bowe-bergdahl-deserter-army-taliban/ >

War is a bitch.. A close cousin of mine, a Marine, did two deployments to Iraq and it totally flucked up his mind. Good kid..

Bergdahl should have shot himself in the head for those that died looking for him.. Many more died because of the intelligence that he gave up to the Taliban while being held captive..

Obama brought him home to his future hell.. The same hell my cousin lives in everyday.. :doh:

Posted by Self-Banished on Jan. 28 2015,10:07 am
^^ so mental illness DOES run in your family.
Posted by alcitizens on Jan. 28 2015,10:29 am

(Self-Banished @ Jan. 28 2015,10:07 am)
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^^ so mental illness DOES run in your family.

Don't compare me to him.. He killed many of the enemy in Iraq and watched many of his buddy's die horrific deaths..

I turned out the way I am because of the battles I've endured with kooks..

War is a bitch..

Posted by Self-Banished on Jan. 28 2015,10:40 am

(alcitizens @ Jan. 28 2015,10:29 am)
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I turned out the way I am because of the battles I've endured with kooks..

War is a bitch..

I think you might want to start looking for a white flag :rofl:
Posted by MADDOG on Jan. 28 2015,11:45 am

(alcitizens @ Jan. 28 2015,10:29 am)
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I turned out the way I am because of the battles I've endured with kooks..

You sure it doesn't have anything to do with all the times your brothers locked you in the closet?   :D
Posted by Self-Banished on Jan. 28 2015,11:48 am

(MADDOG @ Jan. 28 2015,11:45 am)
QUOTE

(alcitizens @ Jan. 28 2015,10:29 am)
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I turned out the way I am because of the battles I've endured with kooks..

You sure it doesn't have anything to do with all the times your brothers locked you in the closet?   :D

If he WAS locked in a closet that mean he has COME OUT of the closet.😂
Posted by Liberal on Jan. 28 2015,12:00 pm

(MADDOG @ Jan. 28 2015,9:27 am)
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(Liberal @ Jan. 27 2015,7:29 pm)
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Nice try, Schaffer via FOX said Bergdahl's lawyer had received a charge sheet and the Army Times says there is no charge sheet.  So once again you kooks fell for Anthony Schaffer's BS. :rofl:

Also Schaffer's BS charge sheet story is what you quoted, NBC makes no mention of charges already being brought like your original story claimed. :dunce:

Like I said, you have no credibility left and since you got caught posting BS you'll do what you always do and not post for awhile hoping we all forget you posted another bs story.  :blush:

At least I'm not desperately hanging on to a piece of driftwood, hoping it will float for another two years.  When I see that familiar peacock on the news story, I tend to think it's NBC.

QUOTE
Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, who was held captive by enemy forces in Afghanistan for five years, will likely be charged with desertion, senior defense officials tell NBC News.

The officials point out that Bergdahl will likely face a lesser charge of desertion described in the Uniform Code of Military Justice as leaving a post to avoid duty or shirk an important assignment, based on his actions when he left a remote outpost in June 2009.

Those charges carry a maximum sentence of 5 years in prison upon conviction, but sources tell NBC News the Army is considering crediting Bergdahl for the 5 years he spent in captivity and be given the opportunity to avoid prosecution by leaving the Army with a "less than honorable discharge."



QUOTE
the “post turtle”


While suturing a cut on the hand of a 75 year old Texas
rancher, whose hand was caught in a gate while working
cattle, the doctor struck up a conversation with the old
man. Eventually the topic got around to Obama and his bid to
be president.
The old rancher said, "Well, ya know, Obama is a
"post turtle".
Not being familiar with the term, the doctor asked him what
a "post turtle" was. The old rancher said,
"When you're driving down a country road and you
come across a fence post with a turtle balanced on top,
that's a "post turtle".
The old rancher saw a puzzled look on the doctor's
face, so he continued to explain. You know he didn't get
up there by himself, he doesn't belong up there, he
doesn't know what to do while he is up there, and you
just wonder what kind of a dumb ass put him up there in the
first place.

I know your slow so I'll try to use small words. The post turtle joke was funny but not very original, it was posted years ago about Bush and you changed the name. How original.

As far as Fox new/ Tony Schaffer bs you posted originally said he was charged already  and his lawyer had the charge sheet. NBC said anonymous sources said he will likely be charged at some point in the future. Do you understand the difference or should I try to explain it again using smaller words?

Posted by MADDOG on Jan. 28 2015,12:40 pm
Actually all you have to do is click on Bush or Obama.  Both have the honor on the internet.  

Oh, by golly.  It looks like it was attached to Clinton before Bush according to your < wiki. >

Posted by alcitizens on Jan. 28 2015,12:57 pm

(MADDOG @ Jan. 28 2015,11:45 am)
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(alcitizens @ Jan. 28 2015,10:29 am)
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I turned out the way I am because of the battles I've endured with kooks..

You sure it doesn't have anything to do with all the times your brothers locked you in the closet?   :D

My brothers always feared the wrath of their big brother Alki.. Then they grew up.. :D  

We have always respected each other.. Sometimes more than other times.. :D

Posted by MADDOG on Jan. 28 2015,1:04 pm

(Liberal @ Jan. 28 2015,12:00 pm)
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As far as Fox new/ Tony Schaffer bs you posted originally said he was charged already  and his lawyer had the charge sheet. NBC said anonymous sources said he will likely be charged at some point in the future. Do you understand the difference or should I try to explain it again using smaller words?

I don't believe I posted any Fox News stories this month on Bergdahl?

Posted by Liberal on Jan. 28 2015,1:10 pm
It's only in the first line of the story you linked to. :dunce:  Have you thought about my suggestion that you get checked for early onset dementia?
Posted by MADDOG on Mar. 25 2015,2:04 pm
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Bowe Bergdahl to be charged

Last Updated Mar 25, 2015 2:27 PM EDT

Bowe Bergdahl, the U.S. Army sergeant controversially traded for five Taliban prisoners last year, will be hit with two charges from military prosecutors, his attorney told CBS News.

Bergdahl is going to be charged on one count of desertion and one count of "misbehavior before the enemy."

His attorney, Gene Fidell says he hasn't seen the charges yet for himself, but Bergdahl had passed along the information earlier Wednesday. The Pentagon is expected to make an official announcement about the charges shortly.


That really makes bambino's decision to free five head terrorists all worth it doesn't it?  They ought to take out the CinC and air drop him in Mosul.  ISIS could make him a general.

Posted by Botto 82 on Mar. 25 2015,3:35 pm
I don't what's more hilarious - the antics of Obumbler, or the die-hard devotees with their noses so far up his rectum they can tell what he had for lunch last week. I'm guessing a lot of these kool-aid drinkers had a past life in the Schutzstaffel.
Posted by Liberal on Mar. 25 2015,4:11 pm
Head terrorists. :rofl:
Posted by MADDOG on Mar. 25 2015,4:14 pm
Schutzstaffel?  I just don't know how anyone could make a comparison like that.  :D


< View on YouTube >

Posted by MADDOG on Mar. 25 2015,4:16 pm

(Liberal @ Mar. 25 2015,4:11 pm)
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Head terrorists. :rofl:

As in turban heads.

< Who are they? >

Posted by MADDOG on Mar. 25 2015,4:21 pm

(Botto 82 @ Mar. 25 2015,3:35 pm)
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the die-hard devotees with their noses so far up his rectum they can tell what he had for lunch last week. I'm guessing a lot of these kool-aid drinkers had a past life in the Schutzstaffel.

I think you offended a recent poster Botto.  :rofl:
Posted by Liberal on Mar. 25 2015,4:28 pm

(Botto 82 @ Mar. 25 2015,3:35 pm)
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I don't what's more hilarious - the antics of Obumbler, or the die-hard devotees with their noses so far up his rectum they can tell what he had for lunch last week. I'm guessing a lot of these kool-aid drinkers had a past life in the Schutzstaffel.

Same crap you said about Bush supporters for 8 years. Honestly do you think anyone that reads these topics has ever thought, "That Uncle Nutsy sure is intelligent" or do you think it's more likely that people think you either don't vote or you vote for someone you know will lose so you can later pretend to be so much smarter than the people that actually voted and made a difference.

Now shouldn't you be on the kook sites talking about HAARP, chemtrails, 9-11 or whatever the conspiracy of the day is?

Posted by Liberal on Mar. 25 2015,4:51 pm

(MADDOG @ Mar. 25 2015,4:16 pm)
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(Liberal @ Mar. 25 2015,4:11 pm)
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Head terrorists. :rofl:

As in turban heads.

< Who are they? >

Did you actually read what you posted, or were there too many big words in the story. Not one of the Taliban detainees had anything to do with terrorism.

Don't you ever get tired of looking ignorant?

Posted by MADDOG on Mar. 26 2015,9:37 am

(Liberal @ Mar. 25 2015,4:51 pm)
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(MADDOG @ Mar. 25 2015,4:16 pm)
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(Liberal @ Mar. 25 2015,4:11 pm)
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Head terrorists. :rofl:

As in turban heads.

< Who are they? >

Did you actually read what you posted, or were there too many big words in the story. Not one of the Taliban detainees had anything to do with terrorism.

Don't you ever get tired of looking ignorant?

What should we call them then?  Misunderstood underpaid poppy farmers?  Maybe a couple years free admission at NYU could help them live more production lives.  :sarcasm:
Posted by MADDOG on Apr. 01 2015,12:14 pm
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Posted by irisheyes on Apr. 02 2015,4:37 am
It sounds like they're blaming every death in that battalion in a two month period on Bergdahl.

I watched the video above wondering if they had some proof for the casualties and wounded they're blaming on Bergdahl.  They cited a Facebook post from the guy's wife saying Bergdahl was "directly responsible".  A Facebook post from a grieving wife is not exactly the proof I was expecting.   ???

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 03 2015,9:40 am

(irisheyes @ Apr. 02 2015,4:37 am)
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It sounds like they're blaming every death in that battalion in a two month period on Bergdahl.

I watched the video above wondering if they had some proof for the casualties and wounded they're blaming on Bergdahl.  They cited a Facebook post from the guy's wife saying Bergdahl was "directly responsible".  A Facebook post from a grieving wife is not exactly the proof I was expecting.   ???

If even one guy died for this POS shouldn't he have to pay dearly?
Posted by MADDOG on Apr. 03 2015,10:50 am

(irisheyes @ Apr. 02 2015,4:37 am)
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It sounds like they're blaming every death in that battalion in a two month period on Bergdahl.

I watched the video above wondering if they had some proof for the casualties and wounded they're blaming on Bergdahl.

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Interviews with soldiers familiar with the specific missions in which the six died suggest the charge is complicated -- but not without merit given how much the 501st Parachute Infantry Regiment became focused on "PR" -- personnel recovery -- after Bergdahl vanished from his guard post on June 30, 2009.

"The fact of the matter is, when those soldiers were killed, they would not have been where they were at if Bergdahl had not have left," said former Sgt. Evan Buetow, Bergdahl's former team leader. "Bergdahl leaving changed the mission."

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Posted by grassman on Apr. 10 2015,7:02 am

(Self-Banished @ Apr. 03 2015,9:40 am)
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(irisheyes @ Apr. 02 2015,4:37 am)
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It sounds like they're blaming every death in that battalion in a two month period on Bergdahl.

I watched the video above wondering if they had some proof for the casualties and wounded they're blaming on Bergdahl.  They cited a Facebook post from the guy's wife saying Bergdahl was "directly responsible".  A Facebook post from a grieving wife is not exactly the proof I was expecting.   ???

If even one guy died for this POS shouldn't he have to pay dearly?

Keep that thought...
Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 10 2015,7:14 am
^^... And our current president is innocent? :rofl:
Posted by MADDOG on Jul. 24 2015,9:17 am
Interesting choice of what to do on your < authorized leave. >

Perhaps it reminded him of the poppy fields in Afghanistan?

Posted by MADDOG on Jul. 24 2015,9:23 am
Our fearful leader in DC hasn't been able to free four hostages in Iran, but the boy who ran away got five top Taliban freed.  Now the army has to go pick him up again.  At least no one died this time.  

I wonder why an army personnel facing desertion charges is given authorized leave to visit a pot farm?

Interesting choice of what to do on your < authorized leave. >

Perhaps it reminded him of the poppy fields in Afghanistan?

Posted by MADDOG on Sep. 09 2015,3:17 pm
So the army is going to hang another charge on him?  For what, to get him to plea to a lesser charge?  Likely.  :(
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Military prosecutors have reached into a section of military law seldom used since World War II in the politically fraught case against Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, the soldier held prisoner for years by the Taliban after leaving his post in Afghanistan..

Observers wondered for months if Bergdahl would be charged with desertion after the deal brokered by the U.S. to bring him home. He was — but he was also < charged with misbehavior before the enemy >, a much rarer offense that carries a stiffer potential penalty in this case.

"I've never seen it charged," Walter Huffman, a retired major general who served as the Army's top lawyer, said of the misbehavior charge. "It's not something you find in common everyday practice in the military."

Bergdahl could face a life sentence if convicted of the charge, which accuses him of endangering fellow soldiers when he "left without authority; and wrongfully caused search and recovery operations."


I think I heard someone say, "If I had a son, he would be just like this young man."  :rofl:

Posted by Glad I Left on Dec. 23 2015,9:30 am
I see Bowe has been formally charged.

< Bowe Bergdahl arraigned on military charges, mulls options >

Makes you wonder how Obama's decision to release 5 detainees plays out.
I will be honest, I don't know anything about the 5 that were released, whether they were anyone of any significance or not.

But the reality, for me, is how this president places himself into these situations before vetting them out.
Between Bergdahl, Clock Boy, Trayvon, Michael Brown and others.
They all had suspicious circumstances surrounding them and yet he still goes out on a limb an interjects himself into the story.

Posted by Self-Banished on Dec. 23 2015,11:02 am
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Etc, etc, etc...   Who knows? :(

Posted by Expatriate on Dec. 24 2015,5:31 am
Prisoner exchange is nothing new or special to this situation.
We must try to repatriate our captured troops whenever possible, these soldiers must know they have our Military, President, and Country's support, no matter the situation.

This exchange was planned and worked out by the Military/CIA at levels far below the President, don't you think this five for one exchange was analyzed to maximize the benefit for US. To politicize this situation to attack Obama shows partisanship.

Our Military men and woman should be treated with the utmost respect, they should be our most beloved sons and daughters not an expendable commodity to be used as cannon fodder for profit or political advantage.

As for Sargent Bergdahl, he's entitled to a fair trial, his ranking peers will determine his guilt, innocence, fate..
If he survived five years in enemy hands without the benefit of the Geneva Convention rules he's been punished enough..

Posted by Self-Banished on Dec. 24 2015,6:29 am
^^ yes indeed, the beloved sons and daughters, what about the sons and daughters that died looking for the "Jason Bourne" wannabe?

It'll be a farewell slap when Buster pardons this POS.

Posted by Expatriate on Dec. 25 2015,6:20 am
Now you worry about the lives of our beloved sons and daughters of the Military, where was that concern when the Bush Administration rushed US into Afghanistan, a war with questionable legitimacy, and for Iraq, the legitimacy of our involvement there can't be justified..
So what of all the Casualties of this needless reckless venture, we will never have this venture paid-for during our lives, it will be the burden of our grandchildren, the Republican misadventure has essentially bankrupt US, yet we hear the same war-drums from the Republican Candidates!

I was asked how I could support Sanders because of my own veterans status, Bernie Sanders was one of the few Politicians with the insight to see the futility of our involvement in these quagmires. Sanders had the respect for military not to needlessly sacrifice our blood and treasure on useless ventures that can't be defined as defense of our Nation.  

Bernie Sanders has also supported our returning Veterans, Sanders has received the highest Award the VFW and the American Legion can bestow on a member of Congress..

Posted by Self-Banished on Dec. 25 2015,6:23 am
Stow it Gomer
It's Christmas!

Posted by Expatriate on Dec. 25 2015,6:25 am
^Maybe you should think long and hard about that!
Posted by Self-Banished on Dec. 25 2015,6:31 am
^^ oh that's right, you don't believe, my mistake. :blush:
Posted by Botto 82 on Dec. 25 2015,10:29 am
404 - Comeback not found. Christmas error. Please contact your IT professional.
Posted by Expatriate on Dec. 27 2015,6:19 am
408 - Request timeout ...Dumbo skunked again...
Posted by Self-Banished on Dec. 27 2015,7:42 am
Ah, once again the "I served so I'm better" syndrome

Keep at it Gomer. :D

Posted by Glad I Left on Dec. 28 2015,12:42 pm

(Expatriate @ Dec. 24 2015,5:31 am)
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Prisoner exchange is nothing new or special to this situation.
We must try to repatriate our captured troops whenever possible, these soldiers must know they have our Military, President, and Country's support, no matter the situation.

This exchange was planned and worked out by the Military/CIA at levels far below the President, don't you think this five for one exchange was analyzed to maximize the benefit for US. To politicize this situation to attack Obama shows partisanship.

Our Military men and woman should be treated with the utmost respect, they should be our most beloved sons and daughters not an expendable commodity to be used as cannon fodder for profit or political advantage.

As for Sargent Bergdahl, he's entitled to a fair trial, his ranking peers will determine his guilt, innocence, fate..
If he survived five years in enemy hands without the benefit of the Geneva Convention rules he's been punished enough..

I'm not necessarily trying to show partisanship against Obama with this.  I know this was discussed well below his level, but surely he had to give the go ahead on the exchange?

While I concur Bowe is due his day in court and a fair trial, I find it odd that this president continues to insert himself in these situations before all the facts come out.  That is all I really meant by my last statement.

As for Bergdahl being punished enough, I was not in the military, (a decision I have admittedly regretted) but I'm not so sure I would agree. He allegedly deserted his post, knowingly going to an enemy that he surely knows does not honer the Geneva convention (again, allegedly).  When you desert your fellow soldiers, you get what you ask for.  You leave your fellow soldiers unprotected when they are counting on you.

Unless other facts come out that I am not aware of, I will keep my opinions of Bowe the way the are.  Once his day in court has been had, we all shall know what really happened once and for all.

Posted by Expatriate on Dec. 29 2015,7:08 am
As for Obama inserting himself, one of the first things a military recruit learns is the chain of command, at the top of this chain is the Commander in Chief (that's the President) so he's not really inserting himself..
If you're referring to Bergdahl status, that's actually of little concern to the military or the CINC, they aren't convicting without a trial, they just want him repatriated.

As for the Geneva Convention, the Afghanistan government had never signed, that's common knowledge, but we had, the Bush Administration made a mockery of the Geneva Convention with their prisoner torture...a true embarrassment to US.

As to Bergdahl himself, the Coast Guard gave him the boot after a month, the French Foreign Legion turned him down flat, yet the Army took him, gave him an Infantry MOS, life can get fairly spartan under the best of conditions in these units..

Bergdahl is home schooled with a Christian background, I often wondered how these essentially sheltered children fair when they hit the real world.
Like I said earlier in this thread, people crack, some try to kill themselves, some go AWOL, some try to kill their peers, they're not in their right-mind something has snapped. For this kid to think he could just walk away shows in-itself he's not thinking logically..

   

Posted by alcitizens on Apr. 19 2016,1:08 pm

(Expatriate @ Dec. 29 2015,7:08 am)
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As for Obama inserting himself, one of the first things a military recruit learns is the chain of command, at the top of this chain is the Commander in Chief (that's the President) so he's not really inserting himself..
If you're referring to Bergdahl status, that's actually of little concern to the military or the CINC, they aren't convicting without a trial, they just want him repatriated.

As for the Geneva Convention, the Afghanistan government had never signed, that's common knowledge, but we had, the Bush Administration made a mockery of the Geneva Convention with their prisoner torture...a true embarrassment to US.

As to Bergdahl himself, the Coast Guard gave him the boot after a month, the French Foreign Legion turned him down flat, yet the Army took him, gave him an Infantry MOS, life can get fairly spartan under the best of conditions in these units..

Bergdahl is home schooled with a Christian background, I often wondered how these essentially sheltered children fair when they hit the real world.
Like I said earlier in this thread, people crack, some try to kill themselves, some go AWOL, some try to kill their peers, they're not in their right-mind something has snapped. For this kid to think he could just walk away shows in-itself he's not thinking logically..

   

I agree 100% BUT his actions are directly responsible for the killing of many Americans, how many we will never know..

What he did is comparable to a mass killing spree of his peers..

He needs to be locked up for at least a couple decades..  

Just my opinion..  :lalala:

Posted by Expatriate on Apr. 20 2016,8:25 am

(alcitizens @ Apr. 19 2016,1:08 pm)
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I agree 100% BUT his actions are directly responsible for the killing of many Americans, how many we will never know..

Maybe, but we don't know that the search for this kid didn't disrupt an offense that would have cost more lives..

to quote ~Donald Rumsfeld: There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know we don't know.

Posted by pepi-lapew on May 19 2016,7:13 pm
All deserters should be shot No questions asked,
Posted by Expatriate on May 20 2016,7:48 pm
^The truth is I have little respect for an NG of the 60's or early 70's, it was merely a haven for chickenSh!ts like yourself...

if you want shoot deserters stick your pistol in your mouth NG and pull the trigger!

Posted by Self-Banished on May 21 2016,5:38 am
^^Rambo speaks :rofl:

Batsh!t avoided service., you should maybe go to the VA and get that metal plate in your head replaced with a plastic one.

Posted by Expatriate on May 21 2016,6:25 am
I may have been a little harsh on lapew but your claim is off the wall, you 4F fat boy idgit..

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Posted by Self-Banished on May 21 2016,8:28 am
4F? No, as I graduated (that means I completed it, just helping you dumbass) I was being courted by the Air Force. I declined, a highly restrictive environment just wasn't for me. Do I regret it? Nope. Do I have disdain for people that choose it? Nope, except for the ones that think that because the went in they're better than others.

Batsh!t most likely went CO because he knew he would be put into combat, a chicken sh!t loser that he is.
It's funny as hell to watch you back him :rofl:

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