Forum: Current Events
Topic: Drug testing Medicare recipients
started by: Self-Banished

Posted by Self-Banished on May 25 2017,7:24 am
Gov Walker of Wisconsin wants to require drug screening for Medicare recipients, what a grand idea! He's also wanted screening for welfare too.

This needs to be done.

< https://www.usnews.com/news...licants >

Posted by was1 on May 25 2017,7:53 am
Agreed.  Anyone who receives any government benefits should be required to have random drug testing, if you test positive, you lose your benefits.
Posted by Expatriate on May 25 2017,8:00 am

(Self-Banished @ May 25 2017,7:24 am)
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Gov Walker of Wisconsin wants to require drug screening for Medicare recipients, what a grand idea! He's also wanted screening for welfare too.

This needs to be done.

< https://www.usnews.com/news...licants >

Medicare is a program you pay into your entire working life so when you reach the age of 65 you'll have insurance coverage that otherwise would be difficult to obtain..

Obviously you meant Medicaid, a program for the poor, the Trump administration is already cutting a trillion dollars from this program and Walker plans to waste what's left of it..

History is full of the let them eat cake examples of fallen Empires...Republican policy will be the demise of US..

Posted by Self-Banished on May 25 2017,8:41 am
^^ sorry, spell check BS

Well, if you're poor enough to be on Medicaid you shouldn't be spending your dough on drugs.

Are you defending drug use now?

Posted by Expatriate on May 26 2017,4:53 pm
You tards are opening a can of worms — The Trump administration today released a federal budget proposal that would cut more than a trillion dollars over 10 years from Medicaid, the nation’s largest source of health care coverage, which provides a lifeline for children and adults with disabilities and low-income seniors.  Under the president’s proposal, Medicaid would face a $600 billion decrease. That’s in addition to the more than $800 billion cut in the American Health Care Act (AHCA) passed this month by the House of Representatives.
The budget, released while President Trump was in the Middle East on his first foreign trip as president, also would shrink funding for the National Institutes of Health (NIH), the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), the Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP), Social Security disability, environmental protection, and housing and transportation assistance.
At the urging of the president’s daughter Ivanka Trump, the budget proposes spending $25 billion over the next 10 years on paid parental leave, a new initiative.
Members of both parties in the House and the Senate have strongly opposed trimming Medicaid in the past.
Many of the other cuts also face strong bipartisan opposition on Capitol Hill. For example, Rep. Tom Cole (R-Okla.), chairman of the House Appropriations Subcommittee on Labor, Health and Human Services, Education and Related Agencies, has sharply criticized the cuts earmarked for the NIH and CDC.
White House Budget Director Mick Mulvaney reiterated the administration’s view that the AHCA does not go far enough on Medicaid. “We go another half a step further and ratchet down some of the growth rates that are assumed into AHCA,” he said in a call with reporters on Monday.
During today’s press briefing, Mulvaney said that “we’re no longer going to measure compassion by the number of programs or the number of people on those programs, but by the number of people we help get off of those programs.”
AARP staked out a strong position against the president’s budget.
AARP “opposes the budget proposed today because it explicitly harms the very people we are counting on the President to protect,” said AARP Executive Vice President Nancy LeaMond in a statement. “Today’s budget proposes to cut Social Security benefits, as well as funding for critical health, hunger, housing and transportation assistance to low and middle income seniors.  The budget sends a powerful message to older Americans and their families that their health and financial security is at risk.”
AARP sounded a positive note on the administration’s parental leave initiative. “We do want to acknowledge the Administration’s paid leave proposal,” LeaMond said.  “Although it must be improved so that it addresses the workplace needs of family caregivers, we hope that it leads to a national conversation about ways to support family caregivers in the workplace.”
The budget assumes economic growth reaching 3 percent a year by 2021, a figure widely seen as unrealistic.
The budget also includes a dramatic decrease in the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP), also known as food stamps. “If you are on food stamps, we need you to go to work,” said Mulvaney. “If you are on disability and should not be, we need you to go back to work.”
The president’s budget is the first step in a lengthy process. Congress will set its own priorities as it develops its own budget resolution.

Posted by Self-Banished on May 26 2017,8:02 pm
That's 800 billion in reduced increases, not cuts. Never fails to amaze me when going from and 8% increase to a 5% increase is a major cut (these numbers are just for an example)

And of course AARP is sticking their nose in this, they're nothing more than a Nazi geriatric club. Who do you think was one of the major backers of Bustercare?

The adults are in charge now, they're pointing out that at current pace we can't continue giving away the farm. Just look at commiefornia, they're pushing for single payer in their state, trouble is, they don't have the $$ to back it so they'll just come knocking on the Feds door. Guess what? The cupboard's bare.

Posted by Expatriate on May 27 2017,6:56 am
You live in a world of alternative facts—these are cuts Trump said wouldn't happen! He's financing tax cuts for oligarchs at the expense of the poor and elderly...    

< https://www.nytimes.com/interac...ml?_r=0 >

Posted by Self-Banished on May 27 2017,9:04 am
^^ alternate facts and you link The NY Times??

You had a heaping bowl of stupid this morning. :dunce:

Posted by Expatriate on May 27 2017,2:21 pm
More lies from the Donald..
Posted by Self-Banished on May 28 2017,5:08 am
Well look at this, from CNBC no less.

< http://www.cnbc.com/2017...ry.html >

Posted by alcitizens on May 29 2017,3:22 am
It doesn't make sense to kick people off medicaid for drug addiction..  Takeaway a little chump change a person gets will only force them to take more drastic actions to feed their kids and themselves..

$10 thousand in medicaid versus $40,000 to house them in a prison per year is only good business.. Its purely stupid to lockup addicts and the poor to save the little bit they get from medicaid..

Americans spend too much money locking up people for minor crimes and when they get out of prison are more dangerous to society than when they went in.... Kinda difficult for a felon to get work....

Republicans are stupid...

Posted by Self-Banished on May 29 2017,6:09 am
^^ I agree, putting someone in jail for drug abuse is stupid, let's legalize drug use. Just don't expect any help till you clean up your act and become a productive citizen

I also agree that republicans are stupid...

...and democrats are morons :dunce:

Posted by Liberal on May 29 2017,10:52 pm
Why do some people think any commentary is a credible source of information?
Posted by Self-Banished on May 30 2017,5:23 am

(Liberal @ May 29 2017,10:52 pm)
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Why do some people think any commentary is a credible source of information?

Yes, why do they :blush:
Posted by pepi-lapew on Jun. 13 2017,10:08 am
I agree anybody who belongs to AARP are dumda$$ NAZI?
Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 13 2017,1:53 pm

(pepi-lapew @ Jun. 13 2017,10:08 am)
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I agree anybody who belongs to AARP are dumda$$ NAZI?

Where'd that come from?

Yes, AARP members are a bunch of sheep.

Try AMAC.

Posted by Expatriate on Jun. 14 2017,7:52 am

(Self-Banished @ Jun. 13 2017,1:53 pm)
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Try AMAC.

@SB, are you a member of AMAC...I didn't think so!
AMAC actually supports raising the retirement age and reducing benefits! This organization is just a shill for the Republicans.

I doubt you'll believe me when I tell you AMAC has few members, (as evidence) both AMAC and AARP run forums similar to this one—AMAC's is deader than a doornail, AARP has hundreds of posts daily!

Posted by hymiebravo on Jun. 14 2017,8:05 am
Drug test presidential candidates, sitting presidents and all politicians.
Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 14 2017,8:26 am

(Expatriate @ Jun. 14 2017,7:52 am)
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I didn't think

This much we can agree on. :thumbsup:
Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 14 2017,8:27 am

(hymiebravo @ Jun. 14 2017,8:05 am)
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Drug test presidential candidates, sitting presidents and all politicians.

We could probably throw you into the testing pool :crazy:

Posted by hymiebravo on Jun. 14 2017,9:02 am

(Self-Banished @ Jun. 14 2017,8:27 am)
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(hymiebravo @ Jun. 14 2017,8:05 am)
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Drug test presidential candidates, sitting presidents and all politicians.

We could probably throw you into the testing pool :crazy:

Riveting rebuttal and commentary as usual.
Posted by Self-Banished on Jun. 14 2017,9:08 am

(hymiebravo @ Jun. 14 2017,9:02 am)
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(Self-Banished @ Jun. 14 2017,8:27 am)
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(hymiebravo @ Jun. 14 2017,8:05 am)
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Drug test presidential candidates, sitting presidents and all politicians.

We could probably throw you into the testing pool :crazy:

Riveting rebuttal and commentary as usual.

As yours :dunce:

You seem come and go, probably as to your supply of mind altering substances

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