Forum: Current Events
Topic: Boston bomb
started by: Self-Banished

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 15 2013,3:43 pm
Apparently someone planted a bomb near the finish line of the Boston Marathon, couple people dead and a couple dozen injured.

Is this the start of a new terrorist's campaign?

What' will be the new "knee jerk" relation of our gov?

Back ground checks on garbage cans?

Posted by This is my real name on Apr. 15 2013,4:04 pm
There won't be a knee-jerk reaction, because that would take away from their War on Guns. They'll acknowledge this, but other than investigating the crime, this won't result in more laws. Unless, of course, it results in even more surveillance "for our own good".

That said, what a terrible tragedy.  :(

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 15 2013,5:32 pm
Yes, a terrible tragedy.

Don't kid yourself though, if the current administration can make hay out of it they will.

Posted by hairhertz on Apr. 15 2013,8:05 pm
Such a cowardly action.  Death penalty.
Posted by White Pride on Apr. 15 2013,9:56 pm
BAN RUNNING NOW!  :rofl:
Posted by grassman on Apr. 16 2013,6:03 am

(Self-Banished @ Apr. 15 2013,5:32 pm)
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Yes, a terrible tragedy.

Don't kid yourself though, if the current administration can make hay out of it they will.

The administration might take action like they did OSAMA. Killed him. If you will take note, we did not have these type of middle east like problems before George H Bush went oil " exploring" in Iraq.
Posted by MADDOG on Apr. 16 2013,6:14 am
I thought bombs were illegal?
Posted by nedkelly on Apr. 16 2013,6:57 am

(Self-Banished @ Apr. 15 2013,5:32 pm)
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Yes, a terrible tragedy.

Don't kid yourself though, if the current administration can make hay out of it they will.

Almost like the talk about WMD to enter Iraq by W and his private weasel Cheney.... :p

Posted by Rosalind_Swenson on Apr. 16 2013,7:38 am



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University of Mobile’s Cross Country Coach, who was near the finish line of the Boston Marathon when a series of explosions went off, said he thought it was odd there were bomb sniffing dogs at the start and finish lines.
 
"They kept making announcements to the participants do not worry, it's just a training exercise," Coach Ali Stevenson told Local 15.

< http://www.local15tv.com/news...EA.cspx >

The link has a couple of videos about it.

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 16 2013,8:21 am

(grassman @ Apr. 16 2013,6:03 am)
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(Self-Banished @ Apr. 15 2013,5:32 pm)
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Yes, a terrible tragedy.

Don't kid yourself though, if the current administration can make hay out of it they will.

The administration might take action like they did OSAMA. Killed him. If you will take note, we did not have these type of middle east like problems before George H Bush went oil " exploring" in Iraq.

Jeezus, you're a hack, we'll probably be seeing more of this crap in the years to come no matter who's manning the helm.
Posted by Expatriate on Apr. 16 2013,8:25 am
tax day in Boston this is obviously a Tea Party fruitcake.
Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 16 2013,9:21 am
^and another hack. :frusty:

Both you and Grassman should know it's not healthy to be drinking this early in the AM.

Posted by This is my real name on Apr. 16 2013,9:34 am

(Expatriate @ Apr. 16 2013,8:25 am)
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tax day in Boston this is obviously a Tea Party fruitcake.

Why would the Tea Partiers try to harm the marathoners? What do they have to do with anything?

I've heard the tax day/Boston Tea Party/Tea Partiers link before, but even on the off chance they were to do something, wouldn't they have bombed something having more to do with taxes or government than an event like the Boston Marathon? This didn't hurt the people they have an argument with. It hurt innocent participants and spectators.

Posted by Rosalind_Swenson on Apr. 16 2013,10:35 am
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Each year in mid-April, thousands of people flock to historic Lexington and Concord and Minute Man National Historical Park to celebrate Patriot's Day. Patriot's Day is a special Massachusetts State holiday commemorating the opening battle of the American Revolutionary War, April 19, 1775.

The holiday (Officially observed on Monday, April 15, 2013), and the entire weekend, is celebrated with parades, reenactments and commemorative ceremonies.

< http://www.nps.gov/mima/patriots-day.htm >


I think it will be discovered that it was a plot by an American extremist group of some sort, who had the demented mind-set they were kick starting a new Revolution.
It's going to make it even more difficult to talk to people about the problems with our government. People bringing up government problems and misdeeds will be labeled unpatriotic, extremists and terrorists.

Good thing we have so many drones ready to fill the skies, good thing we have the NDAA indefinite detention for suspicious characters. With any luck we will have the Enemy Expatriation Act sped through congress and approved - Or another EO implemented, which would be quicker. Good thing that super-spy center in Utah is almost finished.

Posted by Liberal on Apr. 16 2013,10:52 am

Posted by Rosalind_Swenson on Apr. 16 2013,10:56 am

(Liberal @ Apr. 16 2013,10:52 am)
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Dude, just to clue you in. Tin foil hats were a disinfo tactic by the government. - All us smart kooks know that. It's Kookery 101. Tin foil hats work like putting tin foil on the rabbit ear antennae of TV's did back in our childhood. It strengthens the signals.

:sarcasm:

P.S.
How's the search going for all those news stories that informed us of the destruction of Iraq's water treatment facilities being the main cause of death of hundreds of thousands of people? How's the search going for all those news stories that rightfully brought to our attention the declassified documents showing how it was intentional and planned in advance?

Posted by MADDOG on Apr. 16 2013,11:02 am
Maybe the suspect is in Minnesota.  Al Franken has got to be hiding him in < Moorhead at MSUM. >  Al is trying to prove to Obama he's behind him on gun control.
Posted by Joink on Apr. 16 2013,2:09 pm
Remember, we ticked off the British over 200 years ago in Boston. :rofl:
Posted by pepi la pew on Apr. 16 2013,2:17 pm
I think we need an exec. order from BIMBO out lawing high pressure pots, also bombs. that way only terrorists would be allowed to have them. Because they dont follow the same rules of law that everyone else does! :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:
Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 17 2013,7:50 am

(Rosalind_Swenson @ Apr. 16 2013,10:56 am)
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(Liberal @ Apr. 16 2013,10:52 am)
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Dude, just to clue you in. Tin foil hats were a disinfo tactic by the government. - All us smart kooks know that. It's Kookery 101. Tin foil hats work like putting tin foil on the rabbit ear antennae of TV's did back in our childhood. It strengthens the signals.

:sarcasm:

P.S.
How's the search going for all those news stories that informed us of the destruction of Iraq's water treatment facilities being the main cause of death of hundreds of thousands of people? How's the search going for all those news stories that rightfully brought to our attention the declassified documents showing how it was intentional and planned in advance?

I prefer the term "aluminum foil deflector beanie" :D
Posted by hairhertz on Apr. 17 2013,11:36 am
AFDBs available here for only $375 each or two for $699.99
Posted by pantalonesverdes on Apr. 17 2013,1:03 pm
CNN initially was reporting a suspect in custody.  They now are saying no arrest made, but suspect ID'd  Yikes.  The big news networks are getting ridiculous.  They have a mindset that it's better to report anything regardless of accuracy rather than miss out in the ratings.
Posted by Common Citizen on Apr. 18 2013,12:20 pm

(nedkelly @ Apr. 16 2013,6:57 am)
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(Self-Banished @ Apr. 15 2013,5:32 pm)
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Yes, a terrible tragedy.

Don't kid yourself though, if the current administration can make hay out of it they will.

Almost like the talk about WMD to enter Iraq by W and his private weasel Cheney... :p

Here is a quote from Chris Kyle's book American Sniper.  You can take it for what it's worth but consider the source.  Just remember who the real puppet masters are.

“At another location, we found barrels of chemical material that was intended for use as biochemical weapons. Everyone talks about there being no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, but they seem to be referring to completed nuclear bombs, not the many deadly chemical weapons or precursors that Saddam had stockpiled.”

"Maybe the reason is that the writing on the barrels showed that the chemicals came from France and Germany, our supposed Western Allies."

"The thing I always wonder about is how much Saddam was able to hide before we actually invaded.  We'd given so much warning before we came in , that he surely had time to move and bury tons of material.  Where it went, where it will turn up, what it will poison--I think those are pretty good questions that have never been answered."

"One day we saw some things in the desert and thought they were buried IED's.  We called the bomb-disposal people and they came out.  Lo and behold, what they found wasn't a bomb -- it was an airplane."

"Saddam had buried a bunch of his fighters in the desert.  He had them covered with plastic and then tried to hide them.  Probably figured we'd come through like we did in Desert Storm, hit quick and then leave."


Do you still think it was just talk between Bush and Cheney and all those Intel agencies were wrong?  Why do you think anyone who speaks out about this is shut up?

Posted by grassman on Apr. 18 2013,12:27 pm

(pantalonesverdes @ Apr. 17 2013,1:03 pm)
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CNN initially was reporting a suspect in custody.  They now are saying no arrest made, but suspect ID'd  Yikes.  The big news networks are getting ridiculous.  They have a mindset that it's better to report anything regardless of accuracy rather than miss out in the ratings.

That's why Jon Stewart has a good following. Entertainment and the news figured out.
Posted by Common Citizen on Apr. 19 2013,6:44 am
A lot of developing stories overnight.  One suspect dead and the other still on the run.  They definitely do not look like white rednecks who are members of the Tea Party.  

That will probably disappoint the producers and pundits on MSNBC and other beltway libs in DC.

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 19 2013,7:25 am

(Expatriate @ Apr. 16 2013,8:25 am)
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tax day in Boston this is obviously a Tea Party fruitcake.

Yep, I heard the names this am, not even gonna try to spell them but they sure don't sound like a right wing "nut job" name.

Kind of quick on the assumption Expat, must be terrifying for you.

Posted by Common Citizen on Apr. 19 2013,7:55 am
Question...why did we change the name of booby-trap to IED?  Are they different?
Posted by MADDOG on Apr. 19 2013,8:34 am
I suspect Homeland Security has this one covered?

< Failed policy >

Posted by MADDOG on Apr. 19 2013,8:38 am
I almost forgot, it's < Bush's fault. >
Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 19 2013,9:18 am

(Common Citizen @ Apr. 19 2013,7:55 am)
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Question...why did we change the name of booby-trap to IED?  Are they different?

Sexest

When Clinton was president it terrified him. :D

Posted by Rosalind_Swenson on Apr. 19 2013,3:05 pm
SB:
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I prefer the term "aluminum foil deflector beanie" :D


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Sexest

When Clinton was president it terrified him. :D


:rofl:

SB:
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Yep, I heard the names this am, not even gonna try to spell them but they sure don't sound like a right wing "nut job" name.


I must say I was quite surprised. I really thought they'd blame an American "Patriot" group for this.

How did the other brother escape all the police and SWAT? Seriously, how did he get away from all of those people after the shoot-out in a shot up Mercedes SUV? They just let him drive away? Now the whole city of Boston and suburbs is in total lock-down with thousands of military looking police/agents swarming the entire Boston area. A million people in lock-down, all businesses in lock-down, everything in lock-down. Evacuating everyone and going through everyone's houses? Crazy. It's like a really bad movie.

CC:
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Do you still think it was just talk between Bush and Cheney and all those Intel agencies were wrong?  Why do you think anyone who speaks out about this is shut up?


And don't forget:

US supplied Saddam with chemical and biological weapons.
The newspaper says a review of a large tranche of government documents reveals that the administrations of President Reagan and the first President Bush both authorized providing Iraq with intelligence and logistical support, and okayed the sale of dual use items — those with military and civilian applications — that included chemicals and germs, even anthrax and bubonic plague.
Congressional investigations after the Gulf War revealed that the Commerce Department had licensed sales of biological agents, including anthrax, and insecticides, which could be used in chemical weapons, to Iraq.
A 1995 affidavit by former National Security Agency official Howard Teicher, obtained by the Post, claimed that the U.S. "actively supported the Iraqi war effort by supplying the Iraqis with billions of dollars of credits, by providing military intelligence and advice to the Iraqis, and by closely monitoring third country arms sales to Iraq to make sure Iraq had the military weaponry required."

When Iraq used chemical weapons against the Kurds in 1987, there was anger in Congress and the White House. But a memo in 1988 from Assistant Secretary of State Richard W. Murphy stated that "The U.S.-Iraqi relationship is … important to our long-term political and economic objectives."
< http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/12/31/world/main534798.shtml >

Posted by grassman on Apr. 21 2013,8:48 am

(Self-Banished @ Apr. 16 2013,8:21 am)
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(grassman @ Apr. 16 2013,6:03 am)
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(Self-Banished @ Apr. 15 2013,5:32 pm)
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Yes, a terrible tragedy.

Don't kid yourself though, if the current administration can make hay out of it they will.

The administration might take action like they did OSAMA. Killed him. If you will take note, we did not have these type of middle east like problems before George H Bush went oil " exploring" in Iraq.

Jeezus, you're a hack, we'll probably be seeing more of this crap in the years to come no matter who's manning the helm.

Really. Jihad once again raises it's ugly head. :popcorn:

Posted by Rosalind_Swenson on Apr. 22 2013,11:08 am
It doesn't make sense that the younger brother escaped after the shoot-out. And then to decide to wait until morning to search for him using a complete police-state scenario.

Watertown Police Chief Edward Deveaux:

They were tracking the cell phone of the owner of the SUV that was carjacked. Track it to Watertown.
They had bragged to the owner of the SUV that they were the bombers and had killed an MIT officer.
Even though both of the brothers had been in the SUV, now they are in two different vehicles.
They had been told it was the bombers, were tracking the SUV, but for some reason only one officer initially confronts them?
Two off duty officers show up to help first officer.
Six officers altogether show up.
Older brother walks down street to get closer to officers. Gets 10 feet away and runs out of ammunition.
One of the officers tackles him. 2 or 3 officers are handcuffing older brother, younger brother drives SUV into his brother to get away.
Officers from surrounding communities  join the chase, they all chase him 2 or 3 blocks, he jumps out of the car and "runs into the darkness of the streets". - That's how they lose him.
The chase starts around 12 midnight, they lose him at 1. Boston has thousands of National Guard, FBI agents, DHS agents, ATF agents and God only knows how many other agency people swarming all over the place, helicopters all over the place,  10 miles away from the police chase and shoot-out.
< http://situationroom.blogs.cnn.com/ >

Sunday article:
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A police SUV came down Laurel Street, hearing west toward Dexter Avenue, crashing into some trash cans on the sidewalk and into a parked car. Aske said he then saw a black Mercedes SUV drive up, also heading west toward Dexter Avenue. Then he heard two or three loud explosions, one of them large enough to shake the house. In an instant, the street “was crawling with police,” he said.


< http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro...ry.html >

What do you guys think about all the video and photos coming out showing how the Boston area looks deserted during the lock-down, evacuations and home invasions with all the heavily militarized people and military vehicles?

I can only find police scanner audio from after the shoot-out. Some of the officers keep saying that it was a state police SUV that was stolen.

Posted by Liberal on Apr. 22 2013,5:27 pm
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And then to decide to wait until morning to search for him using a complete police-state scenario.

^ :crazy:

Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 22 2013,6:25 pm
^most likely from fascist cows :p
Posted by Rosalind_Swenson on Apr. 22 2013,9:42 pm
Well of course none of this bothers you and you think others are overreacting. It doesn't bother you that our government planned in advance the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent people. Doesn't bother you that they lied their butts off to start wars in a couple of countries. Doesn't bother you that reporters/journalists get threatened, fired and arrested for trying to cover news that the government doesn't want covered.  You think people are overreacting when they have a problem with the government giving themselves the power to strip citizens of their rights and detain them for however long they see fit.  (Because they will never use it.  :crazy: )
So of course the ridiculous story of one of the brothers being able to escape after the shoot-out which led to military style searches of houses and the complete shut-down of a major US city wouldn't bother you.
Maybe if the FBI hadn't pretended to be clueless about the suspects for so long they would have gotten them easily days before.

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Apr. 22 2013,10:13 pm

(Liberal @ Apr. 22 2013,5:27 pm)
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And then to decide to wait until morning to search for him using a complete police-state scenario.

^ :crazy:

LOL.
How nice.  One guy on the run, and it throws an area into lock-down.
:rofl:

Also makes you wonder how many Boston liberals, spent the night cowering in their homes, wishing they had an AR-15 with a standard capacity magazine!

Posted by Rosalind_Swenson on Apr. 23 2013,3:07 pm
Great picture GD.



Little well dressed lady ABC producer walking around with her camera "Cops swarmed me with guns drawn and forced me to the ground. They told me they were suspicious of my backpack, and thought I might be the suspect."
< http://gma.yahoo.com/video/boston-lockdown-shootout-113633559.html >
< https://www.facebook.com/PoliceStateUSA >


And our laws and our interpretation of the Constitution, I think, have to change.”

Mr. Bloomberg, who has come under fire for the N.Y.P.D.’s monitoring of Muslim communities and other aggressive tactics, said the rest of the country needs to learn from the attacks.
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But our obligation first and foremost is to keep our kids safe in the schools; first and foremost, to keep you safe if you go to a sporting event; first and foremost is to keep you safe if you walk down the streets or go into our parks,” he said. “We cannot let the terrorists put us in a situation where we can’t do those things. And the ways to do that is to provide what we think is an appropriate level of protection.”
< http://politicker.com/2013...-change >

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on Apr. 23 2013,8:48 pm
:rofl:
Posted by Marneman on Apr. 23 2013,11:09 pm
Frankly I'm become concerned about the news out of Boston about what the surviving bomber is saying.  He seems to be sticking to his story about them not being conected to any organization, that they did it all on their own(and frankly the news media seems to be pushing this story too).  But my gut tells me that if I were in his situation i would lie to help cover my fellow conspirotors.  Hopefully the police and feds will be thorough and really investigate so we know the whole truth about this!
Posted by Self-Banished on Apr. 23 2013,11:48 pm

(Grinning_Dragon @ Apr. 23 2013,8:48 pm)
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:rofl:

I have seen this device before, in my childhood, OMG! MY MOM WAS A TERRORIST!
Posted by Rosalind_Swenson on Apr. 24 2013,8:42 am

Posted by Rosalind_Swenson on Apr. 24 2013,10:22 am
Just a couple of days ago the FBI said the older Tsarnaev brothers' name was misspelled for his flight to Russia and that's why there was no knowledge of his six months there. now Janet Napolitano has come out and said that even though his name was misspelled it still set off a ping, but they closed the investigation of him shortly after he left on his trip to Russia and there was no need to investigate him further.

It's very difficult to find out the truth of every big thing that happens. It's non-stop inconsistencies from every agency and on every mainstream news site. I find it amusing that the government was trying to pass legislation to make it legal to use propaganda on US citizens. As if the idea of it being illegal has ever stopped them before!
At least if propaganda on US citizens is legal, they can all stop pretending to be incompetent and/or blaming everything on confusion and memory lapses.

Posted by Liberal on Apr. 24 2013,10:34 am
Defending a fellow kook?
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Tamerlan Tsarnaev Believed in Basically Every Conspiracy Theory

By David Weigel
Posted Tuesday, April 23, 2013, at 5:09 PM

The AP keeps digging into the dead bombing suspect's past and finds him endorsing, at some point, not just a cocktail but a Long Island Iced Tea of conspiracy theories. His inspiration, the mysterious "Misha," reportedly turned him onto radical Islam that was disconnected from the larger, more strategic terror organizations that the U.S. considers itself at war with.

   Tsarnaev became an ardent reader of jihadist websites and extremist propaganda, two U.S. officials said. He read Inspire magazine, an English-language online publication produced by al-Qaida's Yemen affiliate...Tamerlan took an interest in Infowars, a conspiracy theory website. Khozhugov said Tamerlan was interested in finding a copy of the book "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion," the classic anti-Semitic hoax, first published in Russia in 1903, that claims a Jewish plot to take over the world.

InfoWars is Alex Jones' megasite (supported pretty frequently by Drudge Report links); InfoWars, ironically enough, had a reporter at the early Boston press conferences, asking authorities to prove that the bombing wasn't a "false flag" attack. But the InfoWars version of history is totally at odds with the radical Islamist version. If Jones is right, the greatest "successes" of Islamists were actually operations planned by a brilliantly devious CIA.

< http://www.slate.com/blogs...ry.html >

Posted by Rosalind_Swenson on Apr. 24 2013,11:02 am
:rofl:
It's so funny. You're always complaining about people posting Alex Jones stuff in here, and YOU are the only one that does it! lol
The whole time I've been on this forum I've only noticed one person one time posting anything from Alex Jones- and that story turned out to be true. The infowars story just got the jump about it before any other news people did.
By the way, how does Alex Jones fit in with anything I've said? I don't even listen to the guy. I didn't even bother to listen to those two videos you posted awhile back about Alex Jones.- Since Alex Jones has nothing to do with pretty much anything any of us are talking about! Hardly anyone here posts anything from alternative news, but it seems many of us are starting to get information from them, but using mainstream and government info to back the information up.
Goodgod, you are so annoying that even when I mentioned the ridiculousness story of the younger brother getting away (which, it IS too ridiculous to believe) I even checked infowars specifically to see if they had written anything about the screwball story escape. And they had never mentioned it! Thank God.
But I guess to you, anyone who points out anything that goes against the "official" narrative, that person must just be a gullible kook who believes anything they read in kook sites.

haha, I just checked infowars and this is what good ole Alex has to say about your article:
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The insinuations and accusations here are manifest; that Infowars propagates anti-semitic and anti-American material that appeals to extremists and terrorists.

Regardless of the fact that Infowars has NEVER disseminated anything even approaching such material, and is for the most part a news aggregator, like The Drudge Report, and despite the fact that Alex Jones is routinely attacked for refusing to overtly criticize Israel and/or the Jewish faith, beyond expressing disdain for the state’s military aggressiveness, the fix was in for the mainstream media repeaters.

Salon, the publication that in the hours after the attack was willing and praying the bomber to turn out to be a white American, published a smear piece simply entitled “Tamerlan Tsarnaev was an Alex Jones fan”.
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In April 2009, several media outlets were forced to issue retractions following claims they made attempting to assign blame to Alex Jones for being an influence in the tragic shooting of three Pittsburgh police officers by one Richard Poplawski.

Even the New York Times parroted the claims, before it emerged that Poplawski had openly criticized Jones’ anti-racist political viewpoint.
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Is it possible that Tamerlan Tsarnaev read stories on Infowars? Yes. Infowars receives millions of visitors per day. At the height of the bombing news coverage, the website was receiving over 100,000 individual visitors per minute and at one point over seven million people were on Infowars.com.

Combined with the millions that tune in to Jones’ daily radio show, Infowars completely dwarves many mainstream media news outlets on a global scale.

Does this mean there are millions of terrorists intent on killing innocent people with pressure cooker bombs? No. Does this mean that there are millions of people who are interested in reading “The Protocols of the Elders of Zion”? No. Why the hell would it?
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The leap of logic here is patently ridiculous. It is akin to claiming that Warner Brothers are responsible for internment camps in North Korea, because former leader Kim Jong Il was a fan of the Daffy Duck cartoon.

The information that Infowars continues to publish regarding the incident in Boston is the reason why millions of people are returning to the website.
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Infowars is one of the only media sources that in the wake of this event has presented concise evidence that the FBI engages in provocateuring patsy terrorists ALL THE TIME. EVEN THE NEW YORK TIMES HAS COVERED THIS in the past. When there have been over 20 attempted major terrorist attacks since 9/11, and the vast majority of them have turned out to be operations directly run by the FBI, why should we suddenly stop questioning the FBI’s involvement when an attack is pulled off? ESPECIALLY GIVEN THAT THE FBI HAS ATTEMPTED TO PLAY DUMB ON ITS PREVIOUS CONNECTIONS WITH THE SUSPECTS!

We have documented that throughout the history of humans on this planet, false flag is a favored form of statecraft for governments and rulers. What has changed? Are we suddenly supposed to ignore history?

Alex Jones will be closely monitoring how this situation unfolds in the coming hours and days and will take action with regards to the accusations being thrown at him accordingly.


Oh man, you crack me up lib.

And just to save you the time, here's the link to the NY Times article that says the FBI has set up over half of the "terrorism" suspects.
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The judge’s statement was unusual, but Mr. Cromitie’s characteristics were not. His incompetence and ambivalence could be found among other aspiring terrorists whose grandiose plans were nurtured by law enforcement. They included men who wanted to attack fuel lines at Kennedy International Airport; destroy the Sears Tower (now Willis Tower) in Chicago; carry out a suicide bombing near Tampa Bay, Fla., and bomb subways in New York and Washington. Of the 22 most frightening plans for attacks since 9/11 on American soil, 14 were developed in sting operations.

< http://www.nytimes.com/2012...ll&_r=0 >

So funny. I can't defend Alex Jones on anything that Slate article says. : I don't listen to Alex Jones. I find him annoying. I find it hilarious that you accuse people of being Alex Jones kooks, since you are the only person who puts Alex Jones info in here.

Hey, isn't Slate an "alternative" news kook site?  :rofl:

Were you a kook back in 2005 when you were saying how the media is "strangely silent" on Israel/Palestine conflicts? Or when you said you would turn in any soldier using white phosphorous as a weapon on enemy combatants? And when you said those people were just defending their country from what you considered an illegal invasion?

But now you defend the intentional killing of hundreds of thousands of innocent people= not even enemy combatants. Innocent civilians. And somehow you think the invasion of their country was legitimate.

Odd.

Posted by Liberal on Apr. 24 2013,11:21 am
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Hey, isn't Slate an "alternative" news kook site?  :rofl:


:crazy:
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Slate is a United-States-based English language online current affairs and culture magazine created in 1996 by former New Republic editor Michael Kinsley, initially under the ownership of Microsoft as part of MSN. On 21 December 2004 it was purchased by the Washington Post Company. Since 4 June 2008 Slate has been managed by The Slate Group, an online publishing entity created by the Washington Post Company to develop and manage web-only magazines.[2]

< https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slate_%28magazine%29 >

Posted by Rosalind_Swenson on Apr. 24 2013,11:36 am

(Liberal @ Apr. 24 2013,11:21 am)
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Hey, isn't Slate an "alternative" news kook site?  :rofl:


:crazy:
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Slate is a United-States-based English language online current affairs and culture magazine created in 1996 by former New Republic editor Michael Kinsley, initially under the ownership of Microsoft as part of MSN. On 21 December 2004 it was purchased by the Washington Post Company. Since 4 June 2008 Slate has been managed by The Slate Group, an online publishing entity created by the Washington Post Company to develop and manage web-only magazines.[2]

< https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slate_%28magazine%29 >

Oooh, you finally got to use an icon legitimately. You must be thrilled!

Quite funny though how that one sentence is the ONLY thing out of my post that you comment on.

You're pathetic lib.

Posted by Rosalind_Swenson on Apr. 24 2013,1:07 pm
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The ongoing intelligence search for a evidence as to how the Boston bombing suspects may have been radicalized has uncovered earth shattering new evidence.

Authorities now believe that they have unquestionable evidence linking the bombings to Spider-Man.

As reported by the New York Times today, investigators trawling through Dzhokhar Tsarnaev’s social media accounts have found “There are lots of references to musicians like Chris Brown, Jay-Z and Michael Jackson; television shows like “Breaking Bad” and “Game of Thrones,” and movies like “Spider-Man” and “Finding Nemo.”

Spiderman was not immediately available for comment, but is thought to have strenuously denied the allegations, with a spidy spokesperson stating “The FBI has a long history of radicalizing and provocateuring would be terrorists, simply google the term “NY Times: ‘FBI Staged Terror Attacks’”.

New Yorkers also doubt the webbed hero’s involvement, pointing instead to Doctor Octopus, with some saying they witnessed private security working for The Green Goblin at the scene of the attack.

The Times adds that Dzhokhar Tsarnaev is also believed to have been a fan of “Nutella and Frosted Flakes.”

The media has since implied that Frosted Flakes have long been involved in disseminating anti-American views, and that Nutella is a known snack of the Elders of Zion.


< http://www.infowars.com/alert-spider-man-linked-with-boston-bombers/ >

:rofl:

Posted by Common Citizen on Apr. 26 2013,8:28 am

(Marneman @ Apr. 23 2013,11:09 pm)
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Frankly I'm become concerned about the news out of Boston about what the surviving bomber is saying.  He seems to be sticking to his story about them not being conected to any organization, that they did it all on their own(and frankly the news media seems to be pushing this story too).  But my gut tells me that if I were in his situation i would lie to help cover my fellow conspirotors.  Hopefully the police and feds will be thorough and really investigate so we know the whole truth about this!

I bet family members of the victims would like to bring back water boarding.

Drones are not as effective in gathering intelligence as the Obama administration would like you to believe.

nuff said...

Posted by Expatriate on Apr. 26 2013,9:06 am
- :dunce:
Posted by Common Citizen on Apr. 27 2013,2:11 pm
Am I lying?
Posted by MADDOG on Apr. 29 2013,1:46 pm
< Why Has Abdulrahman Ali Alharbi Been Visiting the White House? >  A Saudi national here on a visa to attend college in Ohio who was put on the watch list.  Yet he admitted under a “special advisory option,” generally reserved for visiting politicians and diplomats.  No media sources have done any investigating and no one knows his whereabouts since his visit by Freulien Obama.  could the White House have helped Abdul Rahman exit this country?  He has a long list of members of his clan tied to terrorism including a list of the Ministry of Interior of Saudi.  < (need translator) >  Many linked to Al Qaeda fighters:

Badr Saud Uwaid Al-Awufi Al-Harbi
Muhammad Atiq Uwaid Al-Awufi Al-Harbi
Khalid Salim Uwaid Al-Lahibi Al-Harbi
Raed Abdullah Salem Al-Thahiri Al-Harbi
Abdullah Abdul Rahman Muhammad Al-Harbi (leader)
Fayez Ghuneim Humeid Al-Hijri Al-Harbi

Fighter currently detained at Gitmo:

Salim Salman Awadallah Al-Sai’di Al-Harbi
Majid Abdullah Hussein Al-Harbi
Muhammad Abdullah Saqr Al-Alawi Al-Harbi
Ghanem Abdul Rahman Ghanem Al-Harbi
Muhammad Atiq Uwaid Al-Awfi Al-Harbi

Of course with the Administration either not talking or changing their stories and the lame stream media doing no investigating...

Posted by Liberal on Apr. 30 2013,11:03 pm
^:crazy:
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As reported by The Right Scoop blog, the White House visitor log available online shows that an Abdulrahman A. Alharbi visited Dec. 8, 2009.

The visit was listed as a group tour, however, and at that time, the Abdul Rahman Ali Issa Al-Salimi Al-Harbi who was questioned by authorities for two hours after the April 15 bombings was 16 years old.

There are two entries on Oct. 14, 2011, for an Abdulrahman Alharbi with a different middle initial, S. The entries are also associated with a group tour.

According to The Blaze, which has reported Alharbi was on a federal watch list, the Saudi national entered the U.S. last August on a student visa.

< http://kleinonline.wnd.com/2013...nterest >

Posted by MADDOG on May 01 2013,2:54 pm
Of course with the Administration either not talking or changing their stories and the lame stream media doing no investigating...

As your link purports, it goes on to claim
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Last week, KleinOnline was first to report Alharbi shares the same last name as a major Saudi clan that includes scores of al-Qaida operatives. Some in the clan are senior al-Qaida members while others are reportedly being held by the U.S. in the Guantanamo Bay detention camp in Cuba.

DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano has insisted that authorities absolved Alharbi of anything to do with the Boston bombings. But The Blaze has reported the U.S. Customs and Border Protection’s National Targeting Center issued an event file for the Saudi calling for his deportation under Section 212 (a)(3)(B) of the Immigration and Nationality Act, which makes a foreigner inadmissible to the U.S. because of terrorism or related activity.

In addition, The Blaze said, emails that are automatically triggered when anyone alters an event file of that kind indicated someone removed the deportation reference.

Later, someone tried to destroy both the original event file and an amended version, The Blaze said.

In a hearing last week, Napolitano angrily dismissed an inquiry by a congressman about Alharbi as “not worthy of an answer,” but she admitted in a Senate hearing this week the Saudi was on a terror watch list.

However, Napolitano still has not responded to a request by the lawmaker she indignantly brushed off last week, Rep. Jeff Duncan, R-S.C., for a classified briefing on Alharbi.
 I suppose when the BBC reports that one of the Alharbi clan was married to the daughter of the #2 Al-Qaeda, Ayman al-Zawahri, thoose 'Limeys are  :crazy:  Or the fact that the State Department placed another clansman of Alharbis, Abdel Alharbi on the wanted list offering a multi-million dollar reward for him.

Sure, you will tell me that it isn't Abdulrahman A. Alharbi.  You can't judge a person because of their relatives and I agree...but this is a clan.  < Arabic tribes >.    

First Napolitano insists that Al-Harbi is an innocent bystander.  Then she admits he was "pinged" as a person of interest but absolved.  Next she's forced into testifying in front of the Senate Judiciary Committee and has to admit he was placed on the terrorist list but only after Al-Harbi was whisked out of the country on what the State Department calls a 212 3B designation.



I'm not wreaking on just Napolitano because Bush also got some Saudis out of the country quickly after 9-11.  But...

Let's face it.  If this administration isn't lying about the Boston bombing, gun-runners or Bengazi, they're in bed sleeping.  (Whoops, they were in bed sleeing during Bengazi  :blush: ) I've never seen so many politicians get so uninformed about things the whole country has been hearing about than Obama and his team of misfits.  They have more coverups in their bed than shots missed on a basketball court by Bo Bo the Clown.

Posted by Liberal on May 01 2013,5:57 pm
So in your mind if you come up with a goofy conspiracy theory and the media, and government ignores your delusional ramblings then they must be hiding something?

Did you eat a lot of paint chips as a child?

Posted by MADDOG on May 03 2013,8:46 am
Yep.  But this is the way it really happened.  Abdulrahman A. Alharbi was actually on his way to Saudi on Easter break when he laid over at the marathon.  His clansmen aren't actually in Guantanamo, they are vacationing in Cuba.  The State Department didn't expel Al-Harbi with a 212 3B designation because Napolitano said that she had never heard of him.  Besides that, Barack Vader says there is no such thing as terrorists.

There were no survivors at Bengazi.  Saudis had nothing to do with 9-11 and dried paint chips are best if warmed up slightly.  :notworthy:

Posted by dualheart on May 22 2013,2:36 am
Rest in piece for the people who have lost their life
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