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...and yes, it was another "gun free zone"

http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/01/us/oregon-college-shooting/index.html


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http://www.cbsnews.com/news...ootings

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Umpqua Community College was actually NOT a gun-free zone. Oregon is one of eight states that legally permit concealed weapons on campus.

Any permit-holding student or faculty member there could have legally had a firearm with them.


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^^ Fair enough but see what happens if someone spots your gun or it "prints" and someone puts two and two together.

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Where is the outrage? CHRISTIAN LIVES MATTER!

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Umpqua Community College was actually NOT a gun-free zone. Oregon is one of eight states that legally permit concealed weapons on campus.

Any permit-holding student or faculty member there could have legally had a firearm with them.

Borderline.  The Code of Conduct shows gun carrying under authorization.  It just doesn't state how to obtain such permission.

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19.Possession or use, without written authorization, of firearms, explosives, dangerous chemicals, substances, or any other weapons or destructive devices that are designed to or readily capable of causing physical injury, on College premises, at College-sponsored or supervised functions or at functions sponsored or participated in by the College.


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It reads "...except as expressly authorized by law or college regulations." If you have a permit, you can carry there. I am guessing that gun owners who know their rights would know that. It would be more confusing to students who do not own guns, or who just very recently became gun owners.

It looks like it's allowed, but discouraged. But allowed nonetheless.


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It must not be quite that simple.  There are rumors that one person on campus was carrying, but it may be only rumors.  Oregon is an open carry state although universities do have their own laws.  The big question is, it is an open carry state and laws allowed carry permits to include college campuses, why weren't there a number of guns carried by students on campus?

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Under state law, people in Oregon are technically allowed to carry concealed weapons on college campuses. But it's not quite that simple

Under state law, people in Oregon could carry concealed firearms on college campuses like the one where a gunman killed nine people and wounded several others on Thursday. However, Umpqua Community College has been established as a gun-free zone thanks to a loophole in state law that has made every third-level institution in the state almost entirely gun-free. Here’s how that works.

Currently, only three states—Idaho, Utah and Colorado—allow guns on campuses regardless of school policy. Oregon’s guns-on-campus law is a bit more complicated.

Under state law, “campus carry” is permitted, but each university can set its own policy on whether or not they want to allow firearms. In 2012, after the state legislature failed to pass a bill that would have banned guns on campuses, Oregon’s State Board of Education, which oversees many of the state’s public universities, unanimously approved a policy that bans guns from its campuses, and other institutions followed suit. Additionally, the policy states that anyone who does business with any of the state universities—which includes “students, employees, contractors, people buying tickets to university events or people renting university property,” according to a 2012 article posted on OregonLive.com—must agree to not bring weapons on campus. Anyone who violates this policy cannot be criminally prosecuted, but can face punishment by the university. Students and faculty could face disciplinary action from the university, while contractors risk a breach of contract lawsuit.

The State Board tried to ban guns on campus entirely, but were denied by Oregon’s Court of Appeals. The current policy of the State Board of Education states that people with concealed carry permits are allowed to bring their firearms on campuses, but are not into university buildings, which means a person can roam a campus with a concealed weapon, but if they want to go indoors, they must have somewhere (like the trunk of their car) to store their weapon. Umpqua Community College is not governed by the State Board of Education, but has a similar policy in place.

“Possession, use, or threatened use of firearms (including but not limited to BB guns, air guns, water pistols, and paint guns) ammunition, explosives, dangerous chemicals, or any other objects as weapons on college property, except as expressly authorized by law or college regulations, is prohibited,” according to the college’s code of conduct. Additionally, the college bans knives with blades longer than four inches and misuse of defensive weapons like pepper spray or stun guns.

All states have different laws regarding concealed weapons on campus. Currently there are only 12 states that have laws banning guns on campuses altogether. The majority of states leave the decision up the individual university.


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Wonder if Obummer will heed the no invite warning?

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Who cares what some douchebag conservative says? Or do you think conservative newspaper publishers are in charge of presidential visits?

It's pretty funny watching you conservatives try to blame gun free zones, then it turns out the college wasn't a gun free zone, and there was even a  "good guy with a gun" and he didn't do anything to help the victims.

http://www.politico.com/magazin...-213222


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